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Next manager - Ben Garner confirmed (p256)

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  • edited May 2022
    seth plum said:
    After the game yesterday I saw Mr Dangerfield, Mr Gallen and Mr Sandgaard jr together looking pleased.
    Of the three, in visual terms Mr Dangerfield had the most presence.

    Seth, are you trying to say Big Ronnie Dangerfield is the anchor in a tug of war team ? 
    Dunno, but his beard is competition for @PaddyP17.
  • DA9 said:
    mendonca said:
    @Henry Irving, what's MS like to chat with? Easy going?
    It was a brief chat but he seemed easy going enough

    Maybe my "oh, you're the guy everyone is talking about" opening remark when introduced was slightly off putting for him but we chatted for all of about 30 seconds.

    I asked a few questions I didn't really expect to get full answers to about the management situation which he answered as he should ie being polite but not telling a complete stranger anything confidential.

    He was a perfectly pleasant and polite young man speaking to a, to him, random fan.

    Would have loved to have spoken to him for longer but it wasn't the time or place.
    Well that’s not good enough.
    I know but I thought putting him a headlock in main reception and punching him until he gave me some names might have been counter productive 🤔 
    Was he sitting next to SG in the directors box?

    I saw Ron Dangerfield in there, very recognisable, quite a snazzy dresser 
    Saw them just after the final whistle a few rows back from us next to the directors box overlooking the halfway line. 
  • mendonca said:
    @Henry Irving, what's MS like to chat with? Easy going?
    It was a brief chat but he seemed easy going enough

    Maybe my "oh, you're the guy everyone is talking about" opening remark when introduced was slightly off putting for him but we chatted for all of about 30 seconds.

    I asked a few questions I didn't really expect to get full answers to about the management situation which he answered as he should ie being polite but not telling a complete stranger anything confidential.

    He was a perfectly pleasant and polite young man speaking to a, to him, random fan.

    Would have loved to have spoken to him for longer but it wasn't the time or place.
    Well that’s not good enough.
    I know but I thought putting him a headlock in main reception and punching him until he gave me some names might have been counter productive 🤔 
    Isn't that @Curb_It 's job anyway?
  • Controversial but I’d have Jack Ross
  • Nathan Jones ?
  • Nathan Jones ?
    Ah yes I'm sure he'd come, especially if Luton get promoted 
    Even if they didn't I could see how much more attractive a proposition we'd look - mid-table League One vs Championship Play-Offs

    Bet he's asking where he can sign already ;) 
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  • Dazzler21 said:
    mendonca said:
    @Henry Irving, what's MS like to chat with? Easy going?
    It was a brief chat but he seemed easy going enough

    Maybe my "oh, you're the guy everyone is talking about" opening remark when introduced was slightly off putting for him but we chatted for all of about 30 seconds.

    I asked a few questions I didn't really expect to get full answers to about the management situation which he answered as he should ie being polite but not telling a complete stranger anything confidential.

    He was a perfectly pleasant and polite young man speaking to a, to him, random fan.

    Would have loved to have spoken to him for longer but it wasn't the time or place.
    Well that’s not good enough.
    I know but I thought putting him a headlock in main reception and punching him until he gave me some names might have been counter productive 🤔 
    Isn't that @Curb_It 's job anyway?
    Indeed. I can't compete with the expert 
  • edited May 2022
    Nathan Jones ?

    ...you've been gone too long...🎶🎶 B)
  • edited May 2022
    Nathan Jones ?

    Nathan Jones is above our level now and is a legend of a manager at Luton- not so much at Stoke but TBF to Nathan trying to motivate Stoke's ex premier players who were multi millionaires was a difficult job.   

    I saw a lot of his U21 side at Cafc and most went on to play League football : Pope, Pigott, Smith, Holmes-Dennis, Ajayi, Poyet, Lennon etc.
  • Nathan Jones ?
    He’s been gone too long.
  • edited May 2022
    Nathan Jones ?
    He’s been gone too long.
    ...deja vu... B)
  • I couple of things. 

    Is attacking football modern?  I think a lot of things, high presses, low blocks, double pivots, false 9s etc etc are as old as the hills but they all have names now because there is so much air time and column inches to fill.

    Do managers, in general, really have way they think the game should be played or a way they think they win the most games with the resources available?   You can afford an ideology when you have the resources, you have to be more pragmatic when you don't. 
  • I’m not sure if he’s been mentioned but Garner from Swindon in L2 has done a great job with not a lot. Young at 40 y/o, plus comes with a raft of experience assisting other managers. Most attacking team in L2 too and took Swindon up first time of asking! Rather him then Matt Taylor tbh
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  • Cafc43v3r said:
    I couple of things. 

    Is attacking football modern?  I think a lot of things, high presses, low blocks, double pivots, false 9s etc etc are as old as the hills but they all have names now because there is so much air time and column inches to fill.

    Do managers, in general, really have way they think the game should be played or a way they think they win the most games with the resources available?   You can afford an ideology when you have the resources, you have to be more pragmatic when you don't. 
    Attacking football is nothing new but the delivery of how the attacking football works is more so. Having out and out wingers and a target man or focus are gone in all the best teams. It wasn’t that long ago that you could still find this in the PL. 
  • Cafc43v3r said:
    I couple of things. 

    Is attacking football modern?  I think a lot of things, high presses, low blocks, double pivots, false 9s etc etc are as old as the hills but they all have names now because there is so much air time and column inches to fill.

    Do managers, in general, really have way they think the game should be played or a way they think they win the most games with the resources available?   You can afford an ideology when you have the resources, you have to be more pragmatic when you don't. 
    Attacking football is nothing new but the delivery of how the attacking football works is more so. Having out and out wingers and a target man or focus are gone in all the best teams. It wasn’t that long ago that you could still find this in the PL. 
    I think the main reason for that is there aren't enough good ones to go round.  Pep keeps trying to do with Zlatan at Barca and now Haaland at city. 

    Bayern Munich and Real Madrid still play with a center foward, because they have got good ones.  They all keep buy Lukaku. 

    If Liverpool wanted one who would they buy and how much would it cost?

    Spain won everything without one but as soon as they could pick Costa they did. 
  • Chelsea playing in the women's FA Cup Final today.

    When that's over Emma Hayes finishes her season.

    Next step Charlton men's side?

    Pros 

    Experienced coach and manager who's won a lot of trophies.

    At 45 experienced but still young.

    Worked in the states so might connect with TS.

    Publicity of second female manager in pro men's football, after Gabriella Benson, would be huge and might appeal to TS although he's not "Woke" (sic).

    Cons

    Emma has no experience in men's football.

    Some players and fans may feel she lacks credibility because of that lack of experience as well as her gender.

    The media circus would be a unwelcome distraction to many and the whole thing seen as a stunt by others.

    Chants of "Hayes Out" would be distasteful.

    Discuss
    If Emma Hayes or even her namesake Ben could get Charlton back to The Championship and even further they would get my 100% support. I’d be shocked if she got it though. 
  • Cafc43v3r said:
    Cafc43v3r said:
    I couple of things. 

    Is attacking football modern?  I think a lot of things, high presses, low blocks, double pivots, false 9s etc etc are as old as the hills but they all have names now because there is so much air time and column inches to fill.

    Do managers, in general, really have way they think the game should be played or a way they think they win the most games with the resources available?   You can afford an ideology when you have the resources, you have to be more pragmatic when you don't. 
    Attacking football is nothing new but the delivery of how the attacking football works is more so. Having out and out wingers and a target man or focus are gone in all the best teams. It wasn’t that long ago that you could still find this in the PL. 
    I think the main reason for that is there aren't enough good ones to go round.  Pep keeps trying to do with Zlatan at Barca and now Haaland at city. 

    Bayern Munich and Real Madrid still play with a center foward, because they have got good ones.  They all keep buy Lukaku. 

    If Liverpool wanted one who would they buy and how much would it cost?

    Spain won everything without one but as soon as they could pick Costa they did. 
    Pep sold Zlatan because he didn’t suit his system. Haaland is a fair bit more than a target man.
  • Chelsea playing in the women's FA Cup Final today.

    When that's over Emma Hayes finishes her season.

    Next step Charlton men's side?

    Pros 

    Experienced coach and manager who's won a lot of trophies.

    At 45 experienced but still young.

    Worked in the states so might connect with TS.

    Publicity of second female manager in pro men's football, after Gabriella Benson, would be huge and might appeal to TS although he's not "Woke" (sic).

    Cons

    Emma has no experience in men's football.

    Some players and fans may feel she lacks credibility because of that lack of experience as well as her gender.

    The media circus would be a unwelcome distraction to many and the whole thing seen as a stunt by others.

    Chants of "Hayes Out" would be distasteful.

    Discuss
    Emma Hayes is too good for Charlton at the moment. If she’s to transfer to the men’s game it’s gotta be Championship level. I think she’ll stay in the women’s game in some capacity though. 
  • Waiting for the womens fa cup and announcing Emma Hayes 
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