I'd welcome Powell back as a coach Director of football. It would also be MASSIVE kudos points for TS
Why would he leave Spurs and England where he’s is in a comfortable position!
Is he as comfortable as he would be being a deity at Charlton
The "deity" who is the subject of a huge thread on here called "Powell's football is terrible"? That deity? If this forum had a decent search engine and I had nothing better to do, I'd dig it out, and find your own contributions to it...
In case you're not aware Luke Rooney is Mason Burstow's mentor/agent.
Luke Rooney is a 31 year old journeyman footballer who has been named as Glebe's (Chislehurst) new manager in the "Kent League" I saw him play for Erith & Belvedere in a 5-3 defeat to Glebe last season at Welling United's ground in a mid week fixture
Luke Rooney knows Ben Garner and the two coaches and I'm pleased he is redressing the balance of the typical negative reaction of many Cafc fans/critics on social media.
Tutt-Tutt and Swisdom know how the football grapevine works.
Oof. I was just about to congratulate @Henry Irving on finally rising to the challenge of producing an example of a "good agent" . Either way I'm liking the cut of Mr Rooney's jib.
I'd welcome Powell back as a coach Director of football. It would also be MASSIVE kudos points for TS
Why would he leave Spurs and England where he’s is in a comfortable position!
Is he as comfortable as he would be being a deity at Charlton
The "deity" who is the subject of a huge thread on here called "Powell's football is terrible"? That deity? If this forum had a decent search engine and I had nothing better to do, I'd dig it out, and find your own contributions to it...
Which is why I SPECIFICALLY said as director of Football. Not manager.
There can be no doubt whatsoever about his contacts, networking and people skills and they would all be of use in a D of F role.
save your energy and time trying to prove something irrelevant to this particular situation.
I haven't got an issue with the owner suggesting the style of football he wants to see us play and promising to back the manager in getting the players needed to achieve it. It becomes more worrying when it gets like Roland explaining football tactics to a manager who is an ex England international. If Sandgaard thinks he has discovered the secret of success in terms of a playing style it is worrying in the extreme. There are many different paths but his backing is needed. With limited resources the approach has to always be a pragmatic one based on what you have and how your best players play.
The problem is, I don't know which of these is correct and I doubt many of us do. There are lingering doubts about Sandgaard based on genuine clues. I would say not yet definitive but that in itself is worrying. And we should be open to this possibility.
I agree with this. The turning point for me would be if Sandgaard is issuing Roland-esque emails or trying to dictate how training sessions should go.
Currently I have no reason to think that this is the case and if anyone knows differently then they should be making it public very very quickly. Until then we have to accept that there is nothing wrong with an owner wanting a certain type of football and finding the staff to implement it.
MS certainly tried at least once last season.
This needs context.
If he was at the training ground and saw a lacklustre group of players who were not putting a shift in then he’s more than got a right to ask for more surely?
If he was there to effectively ask JJ to try something different in training then that wouldn’t be on.
Context please.
Exactly. I reckon some people think he turned up with his boots, Clipboard and whistle expecting to take a full on training session.
I haven't got an issue with the owner suggesting the style of football he wants to see us play and promising to back the manager in getting the players needed to achieve it. It becomes more worrying when it gets like Roland explaining football tactics to a manager who is an ex England international. If Sandgaard thinks he has discovered the secret of success in terms of a playing style it is worrying in the extreme. There are many different paths but his backing is needed. With limited resources the approach has to always be a pragmatic one based on what you have and how your best players play.
The problem is, I don't know which of these is correct and I doubt many of us do. There are lingering doubts about Sandgaard based on genuine clues. I would say not yet definitive but that in itself is worrying. And we should be open to this possibility.
I agree with this. The turning point for me would be if Sandgaard is issuing Roland-esque emails or trying to dictate how training sessions should go.
Currently I have no reason to think that this is the case and if anyone knows differently then they should be making it public very very quickly. Until then we have to accept that there is nothing wrong with an owner wanting a certain type of football and finding the staff to implement it.
MS certainly tried at least once last season.
This needs context.
If he was at the training ground and saw a lacklustre group of players who were not putting a shift in then he’s more than got a right to ask for more surely?
If he was there to effectively ask JJ to try something different in training then that wouldn’t be on.
Context please.
Exactly. I reckon some people think he turned up with his boots, Clipboard and whistle expecting to take a full on training session.
I haven't got an issue with the owner suggesting the style of football he wants to see us play and promising to back the manager in getting the players needed to achieve it. It becomes more worrying when it gets like Roland explaining football tactics to a manager who is an ex England international. If Sandgaard thinks he has discovered the secret of success in terms of a playing style it is worrying in the extreme. There are many different paths but his backing is needed. With limited resources the approach has to always be a pragmatic one based on what you have and how your best players play.
The problem is, I don't know which of these is correct and I doubt many of us do. There are lingering doubts about Sandgaard based on genuine clues. I would say not yet definitive but that in itself is worrying. And we should be open to this possibility.
I agree with this. The turning point for me would be if Sandgaard is issuing Roland-esque emails or trying to dictate how training sessions should go.
Currently I have no reason to think that this is the case and if anyone knows differently then they should be making it public very very quickly. Until then we have to accept that there is nothing wrong with an owner wanting a certain type of football and finding the staff to implement it.
MS certainly tried at least once last season.
This needs context.
If he was at the training ground and saw a lacklustre group of players who were not putting a shift in then he’s more than got a right to ask for more surely?
If he was there to effectively ask JJ to try something different in training then that wouldn’t be on.
Context please.
What right does he have to involve himself on training effort, or lack of? He’s an analyst, not his remit
I haven't got an issue with the owner suggesting the style of football he wants to see us play and promising to back the manager in getting the players needed to achieve it. It becomes more worrying when it gets like Roland explaining football tactics to a manager who is an ex England international. If Sandgaard thinks he has discovered the secret of success in terms of a playing style it is worrying in the extreme. There are many different paths but his backing is needed. With limited resources the approach has to always be a pragmatic one based on what you have and how your best players play.
The problem is, I don't know which of these is correct and I doubt many of us do. There are lingering doubts about Sandgaard based on genuine clues. I would say not yet definitive but that in itself is worrying. And we should be open to this possibility.
I agree with this. The turning point for me would be if Sandgaard is issuing Roland-esque emails or trying to dictate how training sessions should go.
Currently I have no reason to think that this is the case and if anyone knows differently then they should be making it public very very quickly. Until then we have to accept that there is nothing wrong with an owner wanting a certain type of football and finding the staff to implement it.
MS certainly tried at least once last season.
This needs context.
If he was at the training ground and saw a lacklustre group of players who were not putting a shift in then he’s more than got a right to ask for more surely?
If he was there to effectively ask JJ to try something different in training then that wouldn’t be on.
Context please.
Exactly. I reckon some people think he turned up with his boots, Clipboard and whistle expecting to take a full on training session.
Yes certain "insiders" here like to drop a crumb of incomplete info to cause more of a stir. Very transparent agenda.
I'd welcome Powell back as a coach Director of football. It would also be MASSIVE kudos points for TS
Why would he leave Spurs and England where he’s is in a comfortable position!
Is he as comfortable as he would be being a deity at Charlton
The "deity" who is the subject of a huge thread on here called "Powell's football is terrible"? That deity? If this forum had a decent search engine and I had nothing better to do, I'd dig it out, and find your own contributions to it...
Which is why I SPECIFICALLY said as director of Football. Not manager.
There can be no doubt whatsoever about his contacts, networking and people skills and they would all be of use in a D of F role.
save your energy and time trying to prove something irrelevant to this particular situation.
Every time we went on a bad run there would be speculation that Powell is going to take over as manager.
Not sure we need another voice at that level either. Could potentially complicate things more than it helps.
If you are an owner that wants to know everything about the club then you probably would turn up to training. Then when you witness a light jovial session whilst your club are on a bad run, you have a right to enquire why it occurred. However any queries have to be owner to manager, anything else is dangerous and detrimental.
I haven't got an issue with the owner suggesting the style of football he wants to see us play and promising to back the manager in getting the players needed to achieve it. It becomes more worrying when it gets like Roland explaining football tactics to a manager who is an ex England international. If Sandgaard thinks he has discovered the secret of success in terms of a playing style it is worrying in the extreme. There are many different paths but his backing is needed. With limited resources the approach has to always be a pragmatic one based on what you have and how your best players play.
The problem is, I don't know which of these is correct and I doubt many of us do. There are lingering doubts about Sandgaard based on genuine clues. I would say not yet definitive but that in itself is worrying. And we should be open to this possibility.
I agree with this. The turning point for me would be if Sandgaard is issuing Roland-esque emails or trying to dictate how training sessions should go.
Currently I have no reason to think that this is the case and if anyone knows differently then they should be making it public very very quickly. Until then we have to accept that there is nothing wrong with an owner wanting a certain type of football and finding the staff to implement it.
MS certainly tried at least once last season.
This needs context.
If he was at the training ground and saw a lacklustre group of players who were not putting a shift in then he’s more than got a right to ask for more surely?
If he was there to effectively ask JJ to try something different in training then that wouldn’t be on.
Context please.
Exactly. I reckon some people think he turned up with his boots, Clipboard and whistle expecting to take a full on training session.
Questioning coaches in training is bad enough
Do you mean in training as in, in front of players?
If so, I'd agree, but how do you know that's what happened with MS and JJ?
Need to be careful because there'll be Noddy's claiming that was 100% what happened, spouting off all over social media, in no time and getting it completely wrong.
I haven't got an issue with the owner suggesting the style of football he wants to see us play and promising to back the manager in getting the players needed to achieve it. It becomes more worrying when it gets like Roland explaining football tactics to a manager who is an ex England international. If Sandgaard thinks he has discovered the secret of success in terms of a playing style it is worrying in the extreme. There are many different paths but his backing is needed. With limited resources the approach has to always be a pragmatic one based on what you have and how your best players play.
The problem is, I don't know which of these is correct and I doubt many of us do. There are lingering doubts about Sandgaard based on genuine clues. I would say not yet definitive but that in itself is worrying. And we should be open to this possibility.
I agree with this. The turning point for me would be if Sandgaard is issuing Roland-esque emails or trying to dictate how training sessions should go.
Currently I have no reason to think that this is the case and if anyone knows differently then they should be making it public very very quickly. Until then we have to accept that there is nothing wrong with an owner wanting a certain type of football and finding the staff to implement it.
MS certainly tried at least once last season.
This needs context.
If he was at the training ground and saw a lacklustre group of players who were not putting a shift in then he’s more than got a right to ask for more surely?
If he was there to effectively ask JJ to try something different in training then that wouldn’t be on.
Context please.
Exactly. I reckon some people think he turned up with his boots, Clipboard and whistle expecting to take a full on training session.
Yes certain "insiders" here like to drop a crumb of incomplete info to cause more of a stir. Very transparent agenda.
Apparently there are no agendas, just flagging up that we may be repeating history, but then don’t give any facts.🤷🏻♂️
I haven't got an issue with the owner suggesting the style of football he wants to see us play and promising to back the manager in getting the players needed to achieve it. It becomes more worrying when it gets like Roland explaining football tactics to a manager who is an ex England international. If Sandgaard thinks he has discovered the secret of success in terms of a playing style it is worrying in the extreme. There are many different paths but his backing is needed. With limited resources the approach has to always be a pragmatic one based on what you have and how your best players play.
The problem is, I don't know which of these is correct and I doubt many of us do. There are lingering doubts about Sandgaard based on genuine clues. I would say not yet definitive but that in itself is worrying. And we should be open to this possibility.
I agree with this. The turning point for me would be if Sandgaard is issuing Roland-esque emails or trying to dictate how training sessions should go.
Currently I have no reason to think that this is the case and if anyone knows differently then they should be making it public very very quickly. Until then we have to accept that there is nothing wrong with an owner wanting a certain type of football and finding the staff to implement it.
MS certainly tried at least once last season.
To be fair, we were so shit last year, I think I would have done the same!!
If you are an owner that wants to know everything about the club then you probably would turn up to training. Then when you witness a light jovial session whilst your club are on a bad run, you have a right to enquire why it occurred. However any queries have to be owner to manager, anything else is dangerous and detrimental.
Exactly, that’s why we need context. There seems to be this idea that owners at well run clubs never get involved with footballing matters at all other than signing cheques for new signings.
Taking a day to read about Ben Garner, and then watching clips of the Swindon Town goals of the season, I now realise that although I may not have heard about him, that clearly Ben is doing things right.
The Swindon fans like him, and he turned around Swindon’s fortunes in a few months.
Likewise when Brentford appointed Warburton a few seasons ago, probably most Brentford fans had never heard of him.
But things didn’t turn out to bad for them!
Lets not forget, last season football at the Valley was dire. In the opinion of many posters on CL it was the worst football in living memory.
I suddenly have a very positive feeling about for next season with Ben Garner in charge.
So l would say get behind him. Be positive and support him and the team and see what happens.
Because let’s be honest it can’t be any worse than the dross we endured in 2021/2022.
I haven't got an issue with the owner suggesting the style of football he wants to see us play and promising to back the manager in getting the players needed to achieve it. It becomes more worrying when it gets like Roland explaining football tactics to a manager who is an ex England international. If Sandgaard thinks he has discovered the secret of success in terms of a playing style it is worrying in the extreme. There are many different paths but his backing is needed. With limited resources the approach has to always be a pragmatic one based on what you have and how your best players play.
The problem is, I don't know which of these is correct and I doubt many of us do. There are lingering doubts about Sandgaard based on genuine clues. I would say not yet definitive but that in itself is worrying. And we should be open to this possibility.
I agree with this. The turning point for me would be if Sandgaard is issuing Roland-esque emails or trying to dictate how training sessions should go.
Currently I have no reason to think that this is the case and if anyone knows differently then they should be making it public very very quickly. Until then we have to accept that there is nothing wrong with an owner wanting a certain type of football and finding the staff to implement it.
MS certainly tried at least once last season.
This needs context.
If he was at the training ground and saw a lacklustre group of players who were not putting a shift in then he’s more than got a right to ask for more surely?
If he was there to effectively ask JJ to try something different in training then that wouldn’t be on.
Context please.
What right does he have to involve himself on training effort, or lack of? He’s an analyst, not his remit
Maybe the sports scientists had given him data that showed the players had dropped some intensity in training? They don't wear those bras for support.
My son spoke to a senior player last night. Players know it’s Garner, and have done for the past week. The feeling among the players towards the appointment is positive. I’m surprised, only reporting what I’ve been told.
Masicat Knows ! I prefer information that is said to me direct and on the last bank holiday Monday the day after the POTY do, I was told by a Player in conversation ,( JJ sacking was announced the following day when I was at the Den !) that the "gaffer" didn't know his position and many players were in the dark on their futures. Nothing surprising there but hearing that Martin Sandgaard role at Cafc was puzzling the players confirmed certain fears of past employees; Jimmy Stone and Airman Brown to name just two.
As we had a mutual friend maybe the player told me more as it was away from the environment of the Valley and Sparrows lane.
I'm definitely not anti Thomas Sandgaard despite feeling gutted when JJ left. I so wanted it to work out and unlike Chris Powell never got a chance to bring in his own players to add to Dobson, CBT,Clare etc.
It looks like Thomas Sandgaard wanted to announce Ben Garner in person when he arrives in London next week, hence why he was economic with the truth to buttleJR and I believe Dagenham who said the same.
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There can be no doubt whatsoever about his contacts, networking and people skills and they would all be of use in a D of F role.
save your energy and time trying to prove something irrelevant to this particular situation.
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He’s an analyst, not his remit
Not sure we need another voice at that level either. Could potentially complicate things more than it helps.
I think that's how it works as Owner of a Club (assets or no assets).
If so, I'd agree, but how do you know that's what happened with MS and JJ?
Need to be careful because there'll be Noddy's claiming that was 100% what happened, spouting off all over social media, in no time and getting it completely wrong.
Pipers and tunes guys, pipers and tunes.
Imagine being about to lose your manager and the favourite to succeed him is Sol fucking Campbell.
The Swindon fans like him, and he turned around Swindon’s fortunes in a few months.
Likewise when Brentford appointed Warburton a few seasons ago, probably most Brentford fans had never heard of him.
But things didn’t turn out to bad for them!
Lets not forget, last season football at the Valley was dire.
In the opinion of many posters on CL it was the worst football in living memory.
I suddenly have a very positive feeling about for next season with Ben Garner in charge.
So l would say get behind him. Be positive and support him and the team and see what happens.
Because let’s be honest it can’t be any worse than the dross we endured in 2021/2022.
Masicat Knows !
I prefer information that is said to me direct and on the last bank holiday Monday the day after the POTY do, I was told by a Player in conversation ,( JJ sacking was announced the following day when I was at the Den !) that the "gaffer" didn't know his position and many players were in the dark on their futures. Nothing surprising there but hearing that Martin Sandgaard role at Cafc was puzzling the players confirmed certain fears of past employees; Jimmy Stone and Airman Brown to name just two.
As we had a mutual friend maybe the player told me more as it was away from the environment of the Valley and Sparrows lane.
I'm definitely not anti Thomas Sandgaard despite feeling gutted when JJ left. I so wanted it to work out and unlike Chris Powell never got a chance to bring in his own players to add to Dobson, CBT,Clare etc.
It looks like Thomas Sandgaard wanted to announce Ben Garner in person when he arrives in London next week, hence why he was economic with the truth to buttleJR and I believe Dagenham who said the same.