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Summer 2022 transfer rumours (Gilbey loan confirmed p513, a signing falls through last minute p541)
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Save yourself the energy, you can’t reason with a meltdowner.FishCostaFortune said:
Right lets sort this out once and for all.eaststandmike said:
Careful Golfie gets dogs abuse when he says this however it is 100% correctshirty5 said:Get your business done early, so last minute plugs being pulled can be avoided.
Going through current table order, let's see how many League One clubs brought in players on the last day. Caveat I can't be bothered to look too extensively so might miss out players, and this of course won't include players who signed late in the window or on the 31st August, like Owen Beck did for Bolton.
Portsmoth: Josh Koroma (1)
Ipswich Town: Gassan Ahadme and Panutche Camara (2)
Sheffield Wednesday: (0)
Peterborough: Kell Watts (1)
Plymouth: Sam Cosgrove (1)
Derby: William Osulu (1)
Cambridge: (0)
Charlton: (0)
Exeter City: Harry Smith (1)
Bolton: (0)
Accrington Stanley: Bailey Sloane (1)
Wycombe: (0)
MK Dones: (0)
Fleetwood: Admiral Muskwe and Lewis Warrington
Bristol: Josh Coburn, Bobby Thomas and Syl Jasper (3)
Barnsley: Adam Phillips and Tom Edwards (2)
Oxford: Djavan Anderson (1)
Lincoln: Matty Virture (1)
Port Vale: Liam McCaarron, Dennis Politic and Danny Butterworth (3)
Shrewbury: Carl Winchester, Chris Saydee and Rob Street (3)
Cheltenham: Ryan Broom and James Olayinka (2)
Forest Green: Bryan Fibema and Christian Marques (2)
Morecambe: Liam Shaw (1)
Burton: Elliot Thorpe (1)
So the majority of League One teams were clearly looking to bring in 1 or 2 players on the final day like us.
Let's please stop this get your business down early fallacy. It does not happen and is not a thing.6 -
So they can play centre back in a few weeks.Leuth said:If Sandgaard's strategy involves selling our best players, why are Dobson and Clare still here?2 -
Love this guy, does he ever not say the right thing? We've got a good 'un here peopleclive said:2 -
How do you know they are unobtainable until you approach them though?se9addick said:
Isn’t that why you have a scouting/recruitment team? So you don’t end up with a list entirely composed of unobtainable players?FishCostaFortune said:
Why does it have to be. Look I’m fully on board that it’s gone wrong and have said as much.The Red Robin said:
If we started the search for a forward earlier then it’s even more of a shambles.Todds_right_hook said:People saying shambles
dontou believe we started our striker search yesterday morning? Do you not think we worked through a list of targets? They either moved elsewhere, cost too high, didn't want to come etc. we had a forward in the building and the parent club moved the goal post at the last minute.
with the defender, it would be interesting to see what happened there. Maybe we pulled out because the manager and coaching staff have had three months to look at ness and think he is a good back up option.
frustrating, yes. Disappointing, yes. Shambolic, definitely not
But let’s say we have a list:
Player A
Player B
Player C
Player D
Player E
Player F
Player A is our first choice target, but we approach his team and they say he won’t be moving.
Player B is available but after a discussion with him and his agent he does not want to move because he does not want to move to uproot his young family.
Player C is available but his club will only take a fee that you think is overinflated. So it’s one you will revisit later to see if they drop their demands.
Player D is available and wants to come and has agreed everything in principle but his club will only let him go, if his club get a replacement first.
Player E has been offered by his club on loan, but at the last minute they say we can only have him if we pay a fee.
Player F is available but goes to a club in a higher division.
I expect all this and more happens when it comes to transfers. Again I’m not excusing that we didn’t sign a striker, never mind a centre back, but I do get the impression from the constant upset tone on here throughout transfer windows that people think it should just be a simple process.
And even then, was Scully unobtainable, or was he obtainable until Wigan made a late bid. Do you instantly move on from a quality player you want because there may be a bidding war for him and you don't have the stomach?
Bonne was apparently obtainable but then his parent club changed the conditions last minute. Stockton may have been obtainable if Morecambe would have budged on their £650,000 asking price at the last minute.
I expect there are so many cogs to transfers that we are unaware of that it feels somewhat silly to blanketly rant about how much of a 'shambles' or 'embarrassment' it is. Disappointing and misjudged for sure, but shambles is indicative of moderns society general reaction to things that happen that they don't like.
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I think the free agent we may have spoken to (as Gallen mentioned) is Sam Winnall. It's the only obvious choice that stands out the most.0
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Airman Brown said:
I think we're back in the "believing what he tells us" problem. He isn't going to "significantly cut its losses" and stabilise it in L1. If he "significantly cuts its losses" he'll more likely end up getting relegated.
Yes, there is the Pope money, the Burstow money and maybe the Leaburn money and the Henry money to come. That's not operating income it's asset sales, but it will mean he has to put less in himself in the short term. Yes, you might be able to squeeze a little bit more commercial income out, but the key thing in L1 is ticket revenue. His prices are emptying The Valley, not filling it. That is not a prudent direction and it assumes a cheaper team can also overcome the pricing disincentive (in a cost of living crisis).Not necessarily at all. Decisions like not having a CEO and sacking talented senior staff are (very reasonably) unpopular on here, but he has made a choice to drive as much limited resources to the playing staff as possible.I don't really understand your alternative proposition: a club like Charlton, with an owner who spends relatively big money, could reasonably expect to get into the Championship, where we were would either lose even more money by spending beyond its means or else get relegated. So "investment" brings no certainty of returns big enough to compensate.What alternative is there to running as tight a ship as possible and hoping that building over the long term, with a lot of luck, brings success?2 -
To be fair the majority of those are probably squad fillers and have no doubt been let go because the selling club are happy to see them goneFishCostaFortune said:
Right lets sort this out once and for all.eaststandmike said:
Careful Golfie gets dogs abuse when he says this however it is 100% correctshirty5 said:Get your business done early, so last minute plugs being pulled can be avoided.
Going through current table order, let's see how many League One clubs brought in players on the last day. Caveat I can't be bothered to look too extensively so might miss out players, and this of course won't include players who signed late in the window or on the 31st August, like Owen Beck did for Bolton.
Portsmoth: Josh Koroma (1)
Ipswich Town: Gassan Ahadme and Panutche Camara (2)
Sheffield Wednesday: (0)
Peterborough: Kell Watts (1)
Plymouth: Sam Cosgrove (1)
Derby: William Osulu (1)
Cambridge: (0)
Charlton: (0)
Exeter City: Harry Smith (1)
Bolton: (0)
Accrington Stanley: Bailey Sloane (1)
Wycombe: (0)
MK Dones: (0)
Fleetwood: Admiral Muskwe and Lewis Warrington (2)
Bristol: Josh Coburn, Bobby Thomas and Syl Jasper (3)
Barnsley: Adam Phillips and Tom Edwards (2)
Oxford: Djavan Anderson (1)
Lincoln: Matty Virture (1)
Port Vale: Liam McCaarron, Dennis Politic and Danny Butterworth (3)
Shrewbury: Carl Winchester, Chris Saydee and Rob Street (3)
Cheltenham: Ryan Broom and James Olayinka (2)
Forest Green: Bryan Fibema and Christian Marques (2)
Morecambe: Liam Shaw (1)
Burton: Elliot Thorpe (1)
So the majority of League One teams were clearly looking to bring in 1 or 2 players on the final day like us.
Let's please stop this get your business down early fallacy. It does not happen and is not a thing.
Camara from Plymouth to Ipswich is probably the exception - Even Bonne to us would have been no different.
At that late stage it was pretty clear we weren't bringing in a Striker (key word) to replace Stockley, it was compete with, or nothing... Even had we signed Scully, he himself wouldn't have been a Striker.
So won't be surprised if at some stage of the season, we see Rak-Sakyi played down the middle.1 -
thanksclive said:
Here https://www.charltonafc.com/video/player/0_imi7tc88?feed=ffb9f603-c358-4ce8-b0d3-5f67c0fec53a§ion=d1629432-df7c-497a-a58c-a573b1225ca1DOUCHER said:
where's the interview?killerandflash said:In that interview, Gallen says that he had already been in contact with free agents, and seeing that we didn't seem to be desperately trying to bring in a centre back yesterday evening, I imagine that he's more optimistic of getting a centre back that way.
Ryan Bennett's contract at Swansea was cancelled yesterday, so we presumably has something lined up, and I imagine Swansea are more likely to do that if it isn't a Championship club he's going to.0 -
well if Bonne read some of the comments on here no surprise he didn't fancy re joining. Yeah he wasn't great but beggars cant be choosers and with sandgaard in charge of the purse strings we really can not be too picky.
Feel a bit for Garner. Promising start to the transfers then Sandgaard looked in his wallet and thought shit, we are going to have to become more sustainable in League 1 something a club with our overheads cannot possibly do anyway.1 - Sponsored links:
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Yep, thanks to anyone who shared info. By all accounts it was correct at the time of sharing. It at least have me a faint glimmer of hope on an otherwise rubbish day.Dazzler21 said:@jbaker
Don't take it to heart, some posters are spoiled little brats who seem to think they've a right to criticise when stuff doesn't come off.5 -
J BLOCK said:
The Geezer is at a Championship club on 500k to 750k per annum; even if Michael Beale wishes they could move him on.
Call me cynical (your cynical Sam) but was it QPR who pulled the deal or Cafc after seeing the abuse he was getting on social media and no doubt people emailing Charlton saying that's me done with cafc.
Why would QPR pull the deal ???
In the last couple of months I have had some great conversations with professional Scouts, agents, coaches, social media managers and the smoke and mirrors that takes place is a soap opera; So much skulduggery in player recruitment. Think of poker.
We won 6, Drew 2 and Lost 2 of JJ first games and we hit our ceiling with that group of players when we reach 11th.
Garner needed backing at least as a top six club in League 1 if we have any ambition left ?
Last night was like a shite party in your teens, it's built up and then it's just Boring and you end up feeling really low like a dachund's bollocks.
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McNulty a free agent? Surprised to see his name on the list.
Nothing like an angry man to get you goals!2 -
Not always that easy though is it? We've already been told several times that we needed some to go out before anyone came in. Gilbey didn't bugger off until yesterday afternoon when Lincoln was on a week or two ago and then we had DJ ready to shift on the day but that formal interest didn't arrive until yesterday afternoon. Can't do much until the money's there, or you gamble over your budget and end up causing damage if moves out don't materialise.eaststandmike said:
Careful Golfie gets dogs abuse when he says this however it is 100% correctshirty5 said:Get your business done early, so last minute plugs being pulled can be avoided.
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I think you might be right re rak sakyi - i think going forwards Stockley or Chucks (hopefully) will be adequate if we are dominating / spending a lot of time in the oppositions half but the likes of Rak Sakyi and Miles Leaburn and possibly CBT are going to have to go central if we are playing on the break - Stockley was virtually a passenger for large periods of the game at Wycombe.ForeverAddickted said:
To be fair the majority of those are probably squad fillers and have no doubt been let go because the selling club are happy to see them goneFishCostaFortune said:
Right lets sort this out once and for all.eaststandmike said:
Careful Golfie gets dogs abuse when he says this however it is 100% correctshirty5 said:Get your business done early, so last minute plugs being pulled can be avoided.
Going through current table order, let's see how many League One clubs brought in players on the last day. Caveat I can't be bothered to look too extensively so might miss out players, and this of course won't include players who signed late in the window or on the 31st August, like Owen Beck did for Bolton.
Portsmoth: Josh Koroma (1)
Ipswich Town: Gassan Ahadme and Panutche Camara (2)
Sheffield Wednesday: (0)
Peterborough: Kell Watts (1)
Plymouth: Sam Cosgrove (1)
Derby: William Osulu (1)
Cambridge: (0)
Charlton: (0)
Exeter City: Harry Smith (1)
Bolton: (0)
Accrington Stanley: Bailey Sloane (1)
Wycombe: (0)
MK Dones: (0)
Fleetwood: Admiral Muskwe and Lewis Warrington (2)
Bristol: Josh Coburn, Bobby Thomas and Syl Jasper (3)
Barnsley: Adam Phillips and Tom Edwards (2)
Oxford: Djavan Anderson (1)
Lincoln: Matty Virture (1)
Port Vale: Liam McCaarron, Dennis Politic and Danny Butterworth (3)
Shrewbury: Carl Winchester, Chris Saydee and Rob Street (3)
Cheltenham: Ryan Broom and James Olayinka (2)
Forest Green: Bryan Fibema and Christian Marques (2)
Morecambe: Liam Shaw (1)
Burton: Elliot Thorpe (1)
So the majority of League One teams were clearly looking to bring in 1 or 2 players on the final day like us.
Let's please stop this get your business down early fallacy. It does not happen and is not a thing.
Camara from Plymouth to Ipswich is probably the exception - Even Bonne to us would have been no different.
At that late stage it was pretty clear we weren't bringing in a Striker (key word) to replace Stockley, it was compete with, or nothing... Even had we signed Scully, he himself wouldn't have been a Striker.
So won't be surprised if at some stage of the season, we see Rak-Sakyi played down the middle.1 -
It's true that lot's happens on deadline day hence Sky's obsession with it, but we know it's advisable to get your business done early and only rely on late deals to strengthen obvious areas of weakness or find replacements if you lose key players. With the exception of Gilbey, deemed surplus, we didn't, so not losing anyone we wanted to keep is the only positive to come out of yesterday, if you disregard NOT signing Bonne as we intended to.FishCostaFortune said:
Right lets sort this out once and for all.eaststandmike said:
Careful Golfie gets dogs abuse when he says this however it is 100% correctshirty5 said:Get your business done early, so last minute plugs being pulled can be avoided.
Going through current table order, let's see how many League One clubs brought in players on the last day. Caveat I can't be bothered to look too extensively so might miss out players, and this of course won't include players who signed late in the window or on the 31st August, like Owen Beck did for Bolton.
Portsmoth: Josh Koroma (1)
Ipswich Town: Gassan Ahadme and Panutche Camara (2)
Sheffield Wednesday: (0)
Peterborough: Kell Watts (1)
Plymouth: Sam Cosgrove (1)
Derby: William Osulu (1)
Cambridge: (0)
Charlton: (0)
Exeter City: Harry Smith (1)
Bolton: (0)
Accrington Stanley: Bailey Sloane (1)
Wycombe: (0)
MK Dones: (0)
Fleetwood: Admiral Muskwe and Lewis Warrington (2)
Bristol: Josh Coburn, Bobby Thomas and Syl Jasper (3)
Barnsley: Adam Phillips and Tom Edwards (2)
Oxford: Djavan Anderson (1)
Lincoln: Matty Virture (1)
Port Vale: Liam McCaarron, Dennis Politic and Danny Butterworth (3)
Shrewbury: Carl Winchester, Chris Saydee and Rob Street (3)
Cheltenham: Ryan Broom and James Olayinka (2)
Forest Green: Bryan Fibema and Christian Marques (2)
Morecambe: Liam Shaw (1)
Burton: Elliot Thorpe (1)
So the majority of League One teams were clearly looking to bring in 1 or 2 players on the final day like us.
Let's please stop this get your business down early fallacy. It does not happen and is not a thing.
I do think any notion that we sit on our hands waiting for Deadline Day is a nonsense and we did get the bulk of our business done early, but it's widely acknowledged that we're still missing a couple a players in key positions, hence the negative fallout. As I said earlier, I put it down to gross incompetence rather than wilful negligence.0 -
Redrobo said:McNulty a free agent? Surprised to see his name on the list.
Nothing like an angry man to get you goals!
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Wouldn’t mind Terrell Thomas to be honest, always thought he was quite good, injuries are a problem though.3
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izzy brown anyone?1
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Same Old Bullshit and same old promises from our Rock n Roll EGO driven owner.Oh Eddie Youds... said:The goal now needs to be to get to January and still be in the top 10 / touching distance of the playoffs.
Come on you free transfers! You’ve got this.
A Big Fish in a Tiny pond unfortunately with
delusions of Grandeur, 👎👎👎3 -
Good player but injured all the time....even more so than the usual crop of injured players we sign!IR94 said:izzy brown anyone?0 -
QPR pulled the deal because they couldn’t sign a striker themselvessoapboxsam said:J BLOCK said:
The Geezer is at a Championship club on 500k to 750k per annum; even if Michael Beale wishes they could move him on.
Call me cynical (your cynical Sam) but was it QPR who pulled the deal or Cafc after seeing the abuse he was getting on social media and no doubt people emailing Charlton saying that's me done with cafc.
Why would QPR pull the deal ???
In the last couple of months I have had some great conversations with professional Scouts, agents, coaches, social media managers and the smoke and mirrors that takes place is a soap opera; So much skulduggery in player recruitment. Think of poker.
We won 6, Drew 2 and Lost 2 of JJ first games and we hit our ceiling with that group of players when we reach 11th.
Garner needed backing at least as a top six club in League 1 if we have any ambition left ?
Last night was like a shite party in your teens, it's built up and then it's just Boring and you end up feeling really low like a dachund's bollocks.0 -
Always the way when it’s in a chain like that. Does not always come off and effects one or two other clubs. That’s why I like getting the business done early. We had 4 months to play with not a 24 hour windowNabySarr said:
QPR pulled the deal because they couldn’t sign a striker themselvessoapboxsam said:J BLOCK said:
The Geezer is at a Championship club on 500k to 750k per annum; even if Michael Beale wishes they could move him on.
Call me cynical (your cynical Sam) but was it QPR who pulled the deal or Cafc after seeing the abuse he was getting on social media and no doubt people emailing Charlton saying that's me done with cafc.
Why would QPR pull the deal ???
In the last couple of months I have had some great conversations with professional Scouts, agents, coaches, social media managers and the smoke and mirrors that takes place is a soap opera; So much skulduggery in player recruitment. Think of poker.
We won 6, Drew 2 and Lost 2 of JJ first games and we hit our ceiling with that group of players when we reach 11th.
Garner needed backing at least as a top six club in League 1 if we have any ambition left ?
Last night was like a shite party in your teens, it's built up and then it's just Boring and you end up feeling really low like a dachund's bollocks.15 -
100% Correct 👍👍👍🎯🎯🎯🎯shirty5 said:
Always the way when it’s in a chain like that. Does not always come off and effects one or two other clubs. That’s why I like getting the business done early. We had 4 months to play with not a 24 hour windowNabySarr said:
QPR pulled the deal because they couldn’t sign a striker themselvessoapboxsam said:J BLOCK said:
The Geezer is at a Championship club on 500k to 750k per annum; even if Michael Beale wishes they could move him on.
Call me cynical (your cynical Sam) but was it QPR who pulled the deal or Cafc after seeing the abuse he was getting on social media and no doubt people emailing Charlton saying that's me done with cafc.
Why would QPR pull the deal ???
In the last couple of months I have had some great conversations with professional Scouts, agents, coaches, social media managers and the smoke and mirrors that takes place is a soap opera; So much skulduggery in player recruitment. Think of poker.
We won 6, Drew 2 and Lost 2 of JJ first games and we hit our ceiling with that group of players when we reach 11th.
Garner needed backing at least as a top six club in League 1 if we have any ambition left ?
Last night was like a shite party in your teens, it's built up and then it's just Boring and you end up feeling really low like a dachund's bollocks.3 -
Did I hear wealthy benefactor waiting in the wings? Not heard it for a while, but please.
Where were they when Roland had a lot more skin in the game?
If they did exist then,Roland played hard ball. What kind of game do you think he would play now he has a lot less to lose? He's sitting pretty with a nice piece of London real estate. The rent he's getting an even bigger bonus.
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Sorry. Ain't happening.
I think going bankrupt and admin is more of a realistic possibility now than any sort big money influx.2 -
Your either/or in the championship isn't necessarily the only two options.SteveKielyCambridge said:Airman Brown said:
I think we're back in the "believing what he tells us" problem. He isn't going to "significantly cut its losses" and stabilise it in L1. If he "significantly cuts its losses" he'll more likely end up getting relegated.
Yes, there is the Pope money, the Burstow money and maybe the Leaburn money and the Henry money to come. That's not operating income it's asset sales, but it will mean he has to put less in himself in the short term. Yes, you might be able to squeeze a little bit more commercial income out, but the key thing in L1 is ticket revenue. His prices are emptying The Valley, not filling it. That is not a prudent direction and it assumes a cheaper team can also overcome the pricing disincentive (in a cost of living crisis).Not necessarily at all. Decisions like not having a CEO and sacking talented senior staff are (very reasonably) unpopular on here, but he has made a choice to drive as much limited resources to the playing staff as possible.I don't really understand your alternative proposition: a club like Charlton, with an owner who spends relatively big money, could reasonably expect to get into the Championship, where we were would either lose even more money by spending beyond its means or else get relegated. So "investment" brings no certainty of returns big enough to compensate.What alternative is there to running as tight a ship as possible and hoping that building over the long term, with a lot of luck, brings success?
In the championship we could, realistically, sell a player about every 18 months and actually break even, or close to it and not get relegated.
The issue would be where do you get a player a year to sell from. Cat 1 academy would obviously help but you would also need to restock the player pool with shrewd signings, use the loan market, probably bolster the u21 squad with players released from the bigger academies.
It is at least in theory possible. You can grow ticket revenue, commercial income, more TV money.
It's a pipe dream in league 1. Who ever our owner is we will make a loss in league 1, no ifs, no buts. We would have to sell a player for 6 or 7 million every year. Who has ever done that? In league 1.3 -
Getting your business done early and bringing in 1 or 2 players on deadline day are not incompatible.FishCostaFortune said:
Right lets sort this out once and for all.eaststandmike said:
Careful Golfie gets dogs abuse when he says this however it is 100% correctshirty5 said:Get your business done early, so last minute plugs being pulled can be avoided.
Going through current table order, let's see how many League One clubs brought in players on the last day. Caveat I can't be bothered to look too extensively so might miss out players, and this of course won't include players who signed late in the window or on the 31st August, like Owen Beck did for Bolton.
Portsmoth: Josh Koroma (1)
Ipswich Town: Gassan Ahadme and Panutche Camara (2)
Sheffield Wednesday: (0)
Peterborough: Kell Watts (1)
Plymouth: Sam Cosgrove (1)
Derby: William Osulu (1)
Cambridge: (0)
Charlton: (0)
Exeter City: Harry Smith (1)
Bolton: (0)
Accrington Stanley: Bailey Sloane (1)
Wycombe: (0)
MK Dones: (0)
Fleetwood: Admiral Muskwe and Lewis Warrington (2)
Bristol: Josh Coburn, Bobby Thomas and Syl Jasper (3)
Barnsley: Adam Phillips and Tom Edwards (2)
Oxford: Djavan Anderson (1)
Lincoln: Matty Virture (1)
Port Vale: Liam McCaarron, Dennis Politic and Danny Butterworth (3)
Shrewbury: Carl Winchester, Chris Saydee and Rob Street (3)
Cheltenham: Ryan Broom and James Olayinka (2)
Forest Green: Bryan Fibema and Christian Marques (2)
Morecambe: Liam Shaw (1)
Burton: Elliot Thorpe (1)
So the majority of League One teams were clearly looking to bring in 1 or 2 players on the final day like us.
Let's please stop this get your business down early fallacy. It does not happen and is not a thing.
A club could easily sign 10 players in June & July and then decide, once the season has started, that they are still missing a key player & so bring someone in before the window closes.
I dont know about other clubs & frankly dont care. I just care about us. We let about a dozen go at the end of last season & they need to be replaced. We brought in 7. Mostly from the league below (apart from the 2 loans) and non from teams in our league that finished above us.
We are getting around the deficit on numbers by playing youngsters who before this season had never played a league game. Currently our matchday squad contains at least 2 - 1 of which is almost a regular at left back and the other almost invariably comes on (and scores! ).
As I have tated many times before, some clubs strengthen BEFORE the season started. I wont go into the numbers again but the Pompey front line could probably (in cricketing terms) retire at xmas & will still outscore our first choice front 2 of Stockley & Aneke.
I had decided to keep a low profile for the foreseeable & had been sitting on my hands since this morning but felt I had to answer this one as it really gets up my goat.5 -
It’s a dynamic situation, admittedly, but generally we have lost more money in L1 than in the Championship. I don’t accept it’s either/or - there is a middle ground which Millwall have occupied quite successfully in recent years. We were relegated in 19/20 because RD starved the football side of resources.SteveKielyCambridge said:Airman Brown said:
I think we're back in the "believing what he tells us" problem. He isn't going to "significantly cut its losses" and stabilise it in L1. If he "significantly cuts its losses" he'll more likely end up getting relegated.
Yes, there is the Pope money, the Burstow money and maybe the Leaburn money and the Henry money to come. That's not operating income it's asset sales, but it will mean he has to put less in himself in the short term. Yes, you might be able to squeeze a little bit more commercial income out, but the key thing in L1 is ticket revenue. His prices are emptying The Valley, not filling it. That is not a prudent direction and it assumes a cheaper team can also overcome the pricing disincentive (in a cost of living crisis).Not necessarily at all. Decisions like not having a CEO and sacking talented senior staff are (very reasonably) unpopular on here, but he has made a choice to drive as much limited resources to the playing staff as possible.I don't really understand your alternative proposition: a club like Charlton, with an owner who spends relatively big money, could reasonably expect to get into the Championship, where we were would either lose even more money by spending beyond its means or else get relegated. So "investment" brings no certainty of returns big enough to compensate.What alternative is there to running as tight a ship as possible and hoping that building over the long term, with a lot of luck, brings success?
in any case, TS isn’t “running a tight ship” - he’s reducing crowds with unrealistic prices and removing committed staff on spurious grounds. It’s amateurish and so is his commentary on it.
In all likelihood by dint of finances or personality, TS cannot and will not make it work. He may have done better with a more professional approach but ultimately we need to get the ground back and that will take someone with bigger pockets.28 -
So does everyone else, but they all hold on for the best deal.shirty5 said:
Always the way when it’s in a chain like that. Does not always come off and effects one or two other clubs. That’s why I like getting the business done early. We had 4 months to play with not a 24 hour windowNabySarr said:
QPR pulled the deal because they couldn’t sign a striker themselvessoapboxsam said:J BLOCK said:
The Geezer is at a Championship club on 500k to 750k per annum; even if Michael Beale wishes they could move him on.
Call me cynical (your cynical Sam) but was it QPR who pulled the deal or Cafc after seeing the abuse he was getting on social media and no doubt people emailing Charlton saying that's me done with cafc.
Why would QPR pull the deal ???
In the last couple of months I have had some great conversations with professional Scouts, agents, coaches, social media managers and the smoke and mirrors that takes place is a soap opera; So much skulduggery in player recruitment. Think of poker.
We won 6, Drew 2 and Lost 2 of JJ first games and we hit our ceiling with that group of players when we reach 11th.
Garner needed backing at least as a top six club in League 1 if we have any ambition left ?
Last night was like a shite party in your teens, it's built up and then it's just Boring and you end up feeling really low like a dachund's bollocks.
I do think that the transfer window should should remain open by one more day as you move down the leagues. I think this would enable players to make better decisions once they know a club from a higher league will not be coming in for them whilst also allowing the clubs to allow players to leave who are not part of the plans anymore.
The current system leaves too many players kicking their heels when they could be playing and moving on with their careers.0
not sure if posted previously... Now removed 
