My only concern with the forward is that other clubs at this level are also interested and we are reliant on shifting a player or two to make it happen.
Thank you for sharing info.. Heard they are going to press forward even if they can't shift, worst case would be release a player tomorrow.
That's a statement - if we released a player and had to pay out their contract, would that not affect our salary/budget issue? Or does that include wages ONLY?
My only concern with the forward is that other clubs at this level are also interested and we are reliant on shifting a player or two to make it happen.
Thank you for sharing info.. Heard they are going to press forward even if they can't shift, worst case would be release a player tomorrow.
That's a statement - if we released a player and had to pay out their contract, would that not affect our salary/budget issue? Or does that include wages ONLY?
It depends on the player, on how much they are going to be paid off I believe. But I don't think we are anywhere near the FFP.. More the fact TS has set a budget and wants to stick to it...
My only concern with the forward is that other clubs at this level are also interested and we are reliant on shifting a player or two to make it happen.
Thank you for sharing info.. Heard they are going to press forward even if they can't shift, worst case would be release a player tomorrow.
That's a statement - if we released a player and had to pay out their contract, would that not affect our salary/budget issue? Or does that include wages ONLY?
Only way that could work is if the player accepted far less than the rest of their contract otherwise may as well keep them if we're paying them in full and I don't see how a compromise agreement wouldn't contribute towards any fair play caps.
My only concern with the forward is that other clubs at this level are also interested and we are reliant on shifting a player or two to make it happen.
Thank you for sharing info.. Heard they are going to press forward even if they can't shift, worst case would be release a player tomorrow.
That's a statement - if we released a player and had to pay out their contract, would that not affect our salary/budget issue? Or does that include wages ONLY?
It depends on the player, on how much they are going to be paid off I believe. But I don't think we are anywhere near the FFP.. More the fact TS has set a budget and wants to stick to it...
So we're playing with the terminology of the budget that our own owner set us then instead haha
My only concern with the forward is that other clubs at this level are also interested and we are reliant on shifting a player or two to make it happen.
Thank you for sharing info.. Heard they are going to press forward even if they can't shift, worst case would be release a player tomorrow.
That's a statement - if we released a player and had to pay out their contract, would that not affect our salary/budget issue? Or does that include wages ONLY?
It depends on the player, on how much they are going to be paid off I believe. But I don't think we are anywhere near the FFP.. More the fact TS has set a budget and wants to stick to it...
So we're playing with the terminology of the budget that our own owner set us then instead haha
You've got to know when to hold 'em Know when to fold 'em Know when to walk away And know when to run You never count your money When you're sittin' at the table There'll be time enough for countin' When the dealin's done
My only concern with the forward is that other clubs at this level are also interested and we are reliant on shifting a player or two to make it happen.
Thank you for sharing info.. Heard they are going to press forward even if they can't shift, worst case would be release a player tomorrow.
That's a statement - if we released a player and had to pay out their contract, would that not affect our salary/budget issue? Or does that include wages ONLY?
It depends on the player, on how much they are going to be paid off I believe. But I don't think we are anywhere near the FFP.. More the fact TS has set a budget and wants to stick to it...
If we pay JFC off tomorrow it will be the most Charlton thing ever. Probably buy him back in January...
Although it probably is the best solution for all concerned at this stage.
It will also be interesting if any younger players go out on EFL loans this week, or whether we will just use the flexibility that NL loans give.
Indeed that's been an unfortunate consequence of the transfer windows, as the likes of Henry or Ness might have benefited from a L2 loan in say October when we have a fuller squad.
Mentions Gilbey, JFC and CM could all still go too.
Can see the sense in DJ out and a striker who can play wide coming in.
We already have enough players who can play wide in the squad
Kirk, JRS, CBT plus Leaburn and Payne who have played there this season already.
I agree, I want someone who’s firstly a striker rather than a winger who can play up front.
However given we want one with pace it’s likely have some ability to play wide too. It makes more sense than a pure poacher or another target man.
Another interesting thing about Sam Smith is he’s left footed. He could give both Stockley and JRS competition. Our left winger in Kirk or CBT is then more of a creator, with the main goal threats coming from the striker and right winger.
This.
We have enough wingers/wide forwards - we need an out & out striker. Someone (like TS stated) who can run in behind defences & not struggle to get into the box 5 seconds after releasing the ball (Stockley)
Golfie three days ago:
'Swap Mcleary for Stockley yesterday and we would have won.'
Mentions Gilbey, JFC and CM could all still go too.
Can see the sense in DJ out and a striker who can play wide coming in.
We already have enough players who can play wide in the squad
Kirk, JRS, CBT plus Leaburn and Payne who have played there this season already.
I agree, I want someone who’s firstly a striker rather than a winger who can play up front.
However given we want one with pace it’s likely have some ability to play wide too. It makes more sense than a pure poacher or another target man.
Another interesting thing about Sam Smith is he’s left footed. He could give both Stockley and JRS competition. Our left winger in Kirk or CBT is then more of a creator, with the main goal threats coming from the striker and right winger.
This.
We have enough wingers/wide forwards - we need an out & out striker. Someone (like TS stated) who can run in behind defences & not struggle to get into the box 5 seconds after releasing the ball (Stockley)
Golfie three days ago:
'Swap Mcleary for Stockley yesterday and we would have won.'
McLeary's Positions:
How could you even think to question him!? He's seldom wrong!
After how much TS has been banging on about financial stability, I cannot imagine him spending north of £500k (or even £400k) on a single player.
Would love to be wrong (particularly for an exciting player), but I sincerely doubt it.
Why exactly? He’s done it before.
It’s almost as if….
We’re not showing our full hand in public when it comes to our available budget so we don’t get our pants pulled down in negotiations, I wish this would have been mentioned before in here….
After how much TS has been banging on about financial stability, I cannot imagine him spending north of £500k (or even £400k) on a single player.
Would love to be wrong (particularly for an exciting player), but I sincerely doubt it.
Why exactly? He’s done it before.
I'm not saying that there hasn't been a precedent for it (Kirk was around that much, iirc?) - it was more about my perception of his recent emphasis on keeping the purse strings tight in the business.
I get what you're saying that he has spent (relatively) big before, but the suggestion to me from the recent statement was that we would likely be fairly frugal for the next couple of years. However, I'm also not accounting for any money budgeted, per season, to transfer fees that he will keep stashed away nor talk about publicly.
It could all be smoke and mirrors to ensure other clubs/agents don't take the piss.
Forward have reverted to what it has always been, any position up front whether 1, 2, 3 or 4 players are used on the wing/flank, centre Forward, Number 9, Central forward, right winger or Left winger, you are the generic term a forward.
Charlton need the guy who can take up any position in a front 3. We all hope we can say what a goal scoring forward we have here, he could be the strikers we have craved since Taylor and Grant( they could play wide or central during a match) left but miracles take a little longer so let's not say HMS Piss the league until we see if the new player/s gell and can strike.
Mentions Gilbey, JFC and CM could all still go too.
Can see the sense in DJ out and a striker who can play wide coming in.
We already have enough players who can play wide in the squad
Kirk, JRS, CBT plus Leaburn and Payne who have played there this season already.
I agree, I want someone who’s firstly a striker rather than a winger who can play up front.
However given we want one with pace it’s likely have some ability to play wide too. It makes more sense than a pure poacher or another target man.
Another interesting thing about Sam Smith is he’s left footed. He could give both Stockley and JRS competition. Our left winger in Kirk or CBT is then more of a creator, with the main goal threats coming from the striker and right winger.
This.
We have enough wingers/wide forwards - we need an out & out striker. Someone (like TS stated) who can run in behind defences & not struggle to get into the box 5 seconds after releasing the ball (Stockley)
Golfie three days ago:
'Swap Mcleary for Stockley yesterday and we would have won.'
McCleary's Positions:
To be fair, he's been playing up front on his own recently. But that's due to injuries in the squad, not his natural position.
Mentions Gilbey, JFC and CM could all still go too.
Can see the sense in DJ out and a striker who can play wide coming in.
We already have enough players who can play wide in the squad
Kirk, JRS, CBT plus Leaburn and Payne who have played there this season already.
I agree, I want someone who’s firstly a striker rather than a winger who can play up front.
However given we want one with pace it’s likely have some ability to play wide too. It makes more sense than a pure poacher or another target man.
Another interesting thing about Sam Smith is he’s left footed. He could give both Stockley and JRS competition. Our left winger in Kirk or CBT is then more of a creator, with the main goal threats coming from the striker and right winger.
This.
We have enough wingers/wide forwards - we need an out & out striker. Someone (like TS stated) who can run in behind defences & not struggle to get into the box 5 seconds after releasing the ball (Stockley)
Golfie three days ago:
'Swap Mcleary for Stockley yesterday and we would have won.'
McCleary's Positions:
To be fair, he's been playing up front on his own recently. But that's due to injuries in the squad, not his natural position.
Yes indeed, but in a fluid front 4, with Wing, Wheeler and Mehmeti so he could often pull out to the flanks whilst others went central.
Which is the sort of ‘forward’ I think Golfie is constantly saying he does not want, even though he was lauding that style of play this weekend.
Mentions Gilbey, JFC and CM could all still go too.
Can see the sense in DJ out and a striker who can play wide coming in.
We already have enough players who can play wide in the squad
Kirk, JRS, CBT plus Leaburn and Payne who have played there this season already.
I agree, I want someone who’s firstly a striker rather than a winger who can play up front.
However given we want one with pace it’s likely have some ability to play wide too. It makes more sense than a pure poacher or another target man.
Another interesting thing about Sam Smith is he’s left footed. He could give both Stockley and JRS competition. Our left winger in Kirk or CBT is then more of a creator, with the main goal threats coming from the striker and right winger.
This.
We have enough wingers/wide forwards - we need an out & out striker. Someone (like TS stated) who can run in behind defences & not struggle to get into the box 5 seconds after releasing the ball (Stockley)
Golfie three days ago:
'Swap Mcleary for Stockley yesterday and we would have won.'
McCleary's Positions:
To be fair, he's been playing up front on his own recently. But that's due to injuries in the squad, not his natural position.
Isn't that the point though? Golfie thinks we need an out and out Central Striker, but thinks if we were playing a winger upfront on Saturday instead of Stockley we'd have won - the two points are an oxymoron to each other.
Will Boyle's name keeps popping up. I would honestly not be upset about that. He's left footed as well so it's almost a perfect fit. O'Connell, Lavelle, Boyle and Inniss would be an excellent group at this level.
Only piece that doesn't fit is that the defender has apparently not played at League One level. Boyle has. So that would point towards a younger loan player...
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Only way that could work is if the player accepted far less than the rest of their contract otherwise may as well keep them if we're paying them in full and I don't see how a compromise agreement wouldn't contribute towards any fair play caps.
Smith is a striker/right winger on other sites. He started on the right on Saturday.
Know when to fold 'em
Know when to walk away
And know when to run
You never count your money
When you're sittin' at the table
There'll be time enough for countin'
When the dealin's done
Would love to be wrong (particularly for an exciting player), but I sincerely doubt it.
Although it probably is the best solution for all concerned at this stage.
Indeed that's been an unfortunate consequence of the transfer windows, as the likes of Henry or Ness might have benefited from a L2 loan in say October when we have a fuller squad.
'Swap Mcleary for Stockley yesterday and we would have won.'
McCleary's Positions:
I get what you're saying that he has spent (relatively) big before, but the suggestion to me from the recent statement was that we would likely be fairly frugal for the next couple of years. However, I'm also not accounting for any money budgeted, per season, to transfer fees that he will keep stashed away nor talk about publicly.
It could all be smoke and mirrors to ensure other clubs/agents don't take the piss.
Forward have reverted to what it has always been, any position up front whether 1, 2, 3 or 4 players are used on the wing/flank, centre Forward, Number 9, Central forward, right winger or Left winger, you are the generic term a forward.
Charlton need the guy who can take up any position in a front 3. We all hope we can say what a goal scoring forward we have here, he could be the strikers we have craved since Taylor and Grant( they could play wide or central during a match) left but miracles take a little longer so let's not say HMS Piss the league until we see if the new player/s gell and can strike.
Which is the sort of ‘forward’ I think Golfie is constantly saying he does not want, even though he was lauding that style of play this weekend.
Haven't they brought in Ian Poveda from Leeds on loan already to essentially replace Bowler?
Only piece that doesn't fit is that the defender has apparently not played at League One level. Boyle has. So that would point towards a younger loan player...