Don't think it is as simple as 'get a new striker'. The biggest problem I saw yesterday was our inability to get numbers in the box in good positions. CBT did well on this but couldn't finish, but at least he was there, the rest will come with confidence. Kirk was probably the biggest culprit - as the wide man in the 5 he should be the one racing in when the ball is coming in on the right. Morgan and Fraser should also be taking it in turns to get to the edge of the box to pick up any loose ball that results from a cross. Stockley and the incoming wide man should also be switching between near and far post to give the defenders something to think about. Too often Stockley was coming near/central making him easier to mark.
I think BG has done really well in changing the general style of play but it still needs a lot of work in the final third mobillty (not just Stockley). He may be tempted to try a false 9 to draw central defenders but who of the current squad can play that role (Payne, JRS?). I don't think a Stockton type is the answer or Leaburn (but he does have more mobility and would learn quicker). A fit Aneke has the skills but we all know the problem there.
Will be interesting to see what Garner does on Tuesday and would expect to see a few changes - some players will not have recovered sufficiently from Saturday (e.g. Fraser) and two performances were unacceptable for differing reasons (Kirk and Stockley).
I think we have improved in that respect but yesterday it was hot and our players seemed to hit a wall. As people have observed, their subs were the difference. If we want to play a high pressing game, I would expect us to be as fit as any team though! And the fact that CBT missed that great chance in the first half basically through a lack of composure helped a lot. He is such a weapon, can't somebody do some work with him? I have commented before, the final part of his game is severely lacking. If we haven't got anybody to do it, can't we bring somebody in to help him?
Gave Kirk the benefit of the doubt but there’s nothing I’ve seen thus far in pre season or now the season has started that makes me think he’ll be a success. If we can recoup our money I’ll take it.
if we're offered cash money for Kirk i suggest we take it and run
Yep. Take it & offer the same amount to Swindon for McKirdy. Definitely need more goal scorers in our front 3. JRS will help with that but at his age we can’t rely on him to be the only winger that gets into double figures.
according to the FFL highlights prog, Cole Stockton might be moving down the coast a few miles to Fleetwood, hardly a glamour move .. he can't be on sale for a lot if Fleetwood are the buyers .. last season might have been an 'Ajose one off', but surely we should be in the chase for a proven(ish) L1 striker ?
according to the FFL highlights prog, Cole Stockton might be moving down the coast a few miles to Fleetwood, hardly a glamour move .. he can't be on sale for a lot if Fleetwood are the buyers .. last season might have been an 'Ajose one off', but surely we should be in the chase for a proven(ish) L1 striker ?
He's nowhere near proven, he's had one decent season and that's come pretty late in his career.
If the likes of Fleetwood are the favourites, that suggests that Ipswich, Derby etc and other "big" clubs don't see him as worth the gamble, not just us.
Gilbey linked with Pompey according to their local paper.
Good move for all concerned . I used to think he had something - the athleticism is a great asset but he’s been largely abysmal since the end of Jackson’s caretaker spell
according to the FFL highlights prog, Cole Stockton might be moving down the coast a few miles to Fleetwood, hardly a glamour move .. he can't be on sale for a lot if Fleetwood are the buyers .. last season might have been an 'Ajose one off', but surely we should be in the chase for a proven(ish) L1 striker ?
100,000 they offered .. no one else has made an offer for him
according to the FFL highlights prog, Cole Stockton might be moving down the coast a few miles to Fleetwood, hardly a glamour move .. he can't be on sale for a lot if Fleetwood are the buyers .. last season might have been an 'Ajose one off', but surely we should be in the chase for a proven(ish) L1 striker ?
He's nowhere near proven, he's had one decent season and that's come pretty late in his career.
If the likes of Fleetwood are the favourites, that suggests that Ipswich, Derby etc and other "big" clubs don't see him as worth the gamble, not just us.
according to the FFL highlights prog, Cole Stockton might be moving down the coast a few miles to Fleetwood, hardly a glamour move .. he can't be on sale for a lot if Fleetwood are the buyers .. last season might have been an 'Ajose one off', but surely we should be in the chase for a proven(ish) L1 striker ?
He's nowhere near proven, he's had one decent season and that's come pretty late in his career.
If the likes of Fleetwood are the favourites, that suggests that Ipswich, Derby etc and other "big" clubs don't see him as worth the gamble, not just us.
Clubs that don't need a striker as much as us.
Mutts literally everyone knows that we need a striker I would guess that TS knows that as well. Trouble is where from that would do the job ? We cant just panic and buy one that isnt right otherwise we are in a worse position with a player taking up a squad place. I'm still pretty confident we will buy a striker just no clue who
according to the FFL highlights prog, Cole Stockton might be moving down the coast a few miles to Fleetwood, hardly a glamour move .. he can't be on sale for a lot if Fleetwood are the buyers .. last season might have been an 'Ajose one off', but surely we should be in the chase for a proven(ish) L1 striker ?
He's nowhere near proven, he's had one decent season and that's come pretty late in his career.
If the likes of Fleetwood are the favourites, that suggests that Ipswich, Derby etc and other "big" clubs don't see him as worth the gamble, not just us.
Clubs that don't need a striker as much as us.
Both clubs that don’t need a striker as much as us because they already both signed 2 strikers this transfer window, non of them Cole Stockton.
We can disagree on who it should be but ultimately I am not convinced TS does know. It is my problem with the bloke and it has been doing my head in for a while. I love this club and believe he is honest and has spent money. I just think he is clueless and it will end badly and it is getting to me big time. It is hard to get excited about the club at all at the moment for me. I dearly hope I am wrong but the longer it goes the more I think I am right.
We can disagree on who it should be but ultimately I am not convinced TS does know. It is my problem with the bloke and it has been doing my head in for a while. I love this club and believe he is honest and has spent money. I just think he is clueless and it will end badly and it is getting to me big time. It is hard to get excited about the club at all at the moment for me. I dearly hope I am wrong but the longer it goes the more I think I am right.
We can disagree on who it should be but ultimately I am not convinced TS does know. It is my problem with the bloke and it has been doing my head in for a while. I love this club and believe he is honest and has spent money. I just think he is clueless and it will end badly and it is getting to me big time. It is hard to get excited about the club at all at the moment for me. I dearly hope I am wrong but the longer it goes the more I think I am right.
I don’t want to put words in your mouth Muttley but the body of evidence is here on what you thoughts are and it feels like you’re essentially calling TS clueless because he has not gone out, like every other top club in the division, and purchased Cole Stockton.
I have to say considering how good the performances have been, how excellent some of the new signings have been, and the praise that has been levelled at us by neutral commentators it feels very wide of the mark.
Like everyone he has made some good decisions, and he has made some poor decisions. But on the whole who out of a signings this year points to the club being ‘clueless’?
Time will obviously tell, but so far the improvement over last season is there to see.
That with all due respect is your issue rather than mine. I have said we can disagree with how a few times but I'll say it once more in case it takes a while to permiate. I think Cole Stockton would be a potential solution but the issue is bringing more goals in the team however that is best done, which I have said - please read before you come to conclusions if that is possible. I have a view of a solution and the problem. We can disagree on the soloution but ought to agree on the problem unless we have rose tinted specs.
I am looking at it all in the round and trying to find evidence it will come good, but I see somebody who knows not a lot, employing those that suck up to him and making poor decisions. Yes he not a crook, yes he is spendinging his money but he is not spending it wisely IMO. Playing his song at the start of last season was crass, especially as the squad was clearly wanting. Behind the scenes it is well reported that it is chaos from multiple sources. I could like that song if it was played after every victory.
This beer thing is the latest load of crap. He is so out of his depth IMO that I can't see him ever being a success here and we should remember that we will never be sustainable as a League One club so it is important we get out of it. I'm not going to protest, just lose my enthusiasm and excitment for the club I have loved all my life as a safety valve for my hapiness, because I think the owner might be a plonker. An honest plonker but a plonker all the same.
If you want to disagree, fine but look where that is coming from. I don't want Sandgaard to be a plonker. I'd like him to run the club well with all my heart. I just think he will ultimately damage us because of the sort of person he is.
PWR - From what I’ve heard, Stockton has gone to Fleetwood
It may prove to be a great signing but as someone else posted earlier there's got to be a reason the top clubs aren't looking to sign him. If he was as good as this forum seems to think he is then the likes of Ipswich, Derby and Sheff Weds would've been after him.
Is Morecambe to Fleetwood even a step up?
It's THE local derby ...... well, for those two clubs it is!
If Stockton signs for Fleetwood, he'll be persona non grata in Morecambe. Judas!
That with all due respect is your issue rather than mine. I have said we can disagree with how a few times but I'll say it once more in case it takes a while to permiate. I think Cole Stockton would be a potential solution but the issue is bringing more goals in the team however that is best done, which I have said - please read before you come to conclusions if that is possible. I have a view of a solution and the problem. We can disagree on the soloution but ought to agree on the problem unless we have rose tinted specs.
I am looking at it all in the round and trying to find evidence it will come good, but I see somebody who knows not a lot, employing those that suck up to him and making poor decisions. Yes he not a crook, yes he is spendinging his money but he is not spending it wisely IMO. Playing his song at the start of last season was crass, especially as the squad was clearly wanting. Behind the scenes it is well reported that it is chaos from multiple sources. I could like that song if it was played after every victory.
This beer thing is the latest load of crap. He is so out of his depth IMO that I can't see him ever being a success here and we should remember that we will never be sustainable as a League One club so it is important we get out of it. I'm not going to protest, just lose my enthusiasm and excitment for the club I have loved all my life as a safety valve for my hapiness, because I think the owner might be a plonker. An honest plonker but a plonker all the same.
If you want to disagree, fine but look where that is coming from. I don't want Sandgaard to be a plonker. I'd like him to run the club well with all my heart. I just think he will ultimately damage us because of the sort of person he is.
Okay let’s get this straight and talk about the football, because that’s what we are discussing now.
So far this season we have played 4 games, won 2, drew 1 and lost 1, all whilst getting praise for the the style of football we are playing from both fans and neutral commentators alike.
Those 4 games have been against.
Draw against Accrington Away - The team with one of the best home records last season, and looking at there two home games this season something that looks likely to continue.
Win against Derby at home - Team just relegated from the championship essentially due to a points deduction. Big budget, lots of quality, fancied to do very well this season.
Cup win against QPR at home - Championship team with the much fancied Beale in charge, who made very few changes to the side starting in the league.
Lose against Sheffield Wednesday away - Another team full of championship quality, with a very well respected manager in charge and fancied to do very well this season, yet we essentially dominated the game for 75 minutes and the result could have gone either way.
Its not like we are being outplayed and out thought by teams lower in the division which happened for much of last season.
We have signed O’Connell, Payne, Wollacott, Sessegnon, McGrandles, Egbo and probably the most exciting under 23s prospect out there at the moment in JRS. The only 2 of those who have not earnt praise yet are McGrandles and Egbo both who have been or are coming back from injury.
We are playing a brand of football which is light years away from anything we have played in recent years at the Valley, which is actually making as exciting and fun to watch.
Yet, you and some others, because we have a bit of weird owner who has definitely made some questionable decisions, certainly on the commercial side of things, have decided to brand the whole operation clueless. When things are never as black and white as that
I have no idea what your expectations are Muttley, and it’s sad that you feel like you’re losing your enthusiasm for Charlton during what I think is a very exciting transition for us. But there we go. I’m enjoying the journey and will continue to do so
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according to the FFL highlights prog, Cole Stockton might be moving down the coast a few miles to Fleetwood, hardly a glamour move .. he can't be on sale for a lot if Fleetwood are the buyers .. last season might have been an 'Ajose one off', but surely we should be in the chase for a proven(ish) L1 striker ?
If the likes of Fleetwood are the favourites, that suggests that Ipswich, Derby etc and other "big" clubs don't see him as worth the gamble, not just us.
I have to say considering how good the performances have been, how excellent some of the new signings have been, and the praise that has been levelled at us by neutral commentators it feels very wide of the mark.
Like everyone he has made some good decisions, and he has made some poor decisions. But on the whole who out of a signings this year points to the club being ‘clueless’?
Time will obviously tell, but so far the improvement over last season is there to see.
Why renew someone's contract and the effectively pay them to play for someone else?
I am looking at it all in the round and trying to find evidence it will come good, but I see somebody who knows not a lot, employing those that suck up to him and making poor decisions. Yes he not a crook, yes he is spendinging his money but he is not spending it wisely IMO. Playing his song at the start of last season was crass, especially as the squad was clearly wanting. Behind the scenes it is well reported that it is chaos from multiple sources. I could like that song if it was played after every victory.
This beer thing is the latest load of crap. He is so out of his depth IMO that I can't see him ever being a success here and we should remember that we will never be sustainable as a League One club so it is important we get out of it. I'm not going to protest, just lose my enthusiasm and excitment for the club I have loved all my life as a safety valve for my hapiness, because I think the owner might be a plonker. An honest plonker but a plonker all the same.
If you want to disagree, fine but look where that is coming from. I don't want Sandgaard to be a plonker. I'd like him to run the club well with all my heart. I just think he will ultimately damage us because of the sort of person he is.
If Stockton signs for Fleetwood, he'll be persona non grata in Morecambe. Judas!
So far this season we have played 4 games, won 2, drew 1 and lost 1, all whilst getting praise for the the style of football we are playing from both fans and neutral commentators alike.
Those 4 games have been against.
Draw against Accrington Away - The team with one of the best home records last season, and looking at there two home games this season something that looks likely to continue.
Win against Derby at home - Team just relegated from the championship essentially due to a points deduction. Big budget, lots of quality, fancied to do very well this season.
Cup win against QPR at home - Championship team with the much fancied Beale in charge, who made very few changes to the side starting in the league.
Lose against Sheffield Wednesday away - Another team full of championship quality, with a very well respected manager in charge and fancied to do very well this season, yet we essentially dominated the game for 75 minutes and the result could have gone either way.
Its not like we are being outplayed and out thought by teams lower in the division which happened for much of last season.
We have signed O’Connell, Payne, Wollacott, Sessegnon, McGrandles, Egbo and probably the most exciting under 23s prospect out there at the moment in JRS. The only 2 of those who have not earnt praise yet are McGrandles and Egbo both who have been or are coming back from injury.
We are playing a brand of football which is light years away from anything we have played in recent years at the Valley, which is actually making as exciting and fun to watch.