We'll see. I said the same at the beginning of last season and got poo-pooed. Pre-season optimism is a powerful thing, nobody wants their chips pissed on. Understandably so.
Headers from corners and open play cross aren't from hoof ball. I would say Stockley was a victim of hoof ball as much as anyone else. Saying that I still don't believe that any hoof ball was by design.
Was he a victim or benefactor? He struggled so badly in the lone role under Adkins that he was shouting at the sidelines to find a better shape. Even Davison looked better in that role. People on here were saying we should play to his strengths if we've got him. When we went 352 and more direct, he was better.
Didn't watch Kilmarnock but how many high crosses did we put in the box? I would be surprised if that's a big factor in our play this season.
Funny enough we put more high cross in in the first half when Stockley wasn't playing.
The execution was the problem last season not the system it's self.
If we play to his strengths, and if the rest of the team is good enough, there is no reason you can't play "good football" and have Jayden Stockley in the team, scoring goals.
If and can are doing a lot of heavy lifting, I appreciate that, but the two things aren't mutually exclusive. I am sceptical it will happen but there isn't a reason it can't.
Agree it's all ifs but past evidence is doing some pretty heavy lifting too.
Going back to what you were saying about Jackson's football not being direct by design, was it reported (or just rumour) that TS and JJ disagreed on the style of football to get out of this league. Also remember JJ saying he wanted to sign a number of tall players.
We'll see. I said the same at the beginning of last season and got poo-pooed. Pre-season optimism is a powerful thing, nobody wants their chips pissed on. Understandably so.
Headers from corners and open play cross aren't from hoof ball. I would say Stockley was a victim of hoof ball as much as anyone else. Saying that I still don't believe that any hoof ball was by design.
Was he a victim or benefactor? He struggled so badly in the lone role under Adkins that he was shouting at the sidelines to find a better shape. Even Davison looked better in that role. People on here were saying we should play to his strengths if we've got him. When we went 352 and more direct, he was better.
Didn't watch Kilmarnock but how many high crosses did we put in the box? I would be surprised if that's a big factor in our play this season.
Swindon were 21st in league 2 for crosses per game…I think either we need a new striker or Garner will need to adapt his style slightly. He will want someone that can receive into feet and link play, Aneke fits but I don’t think stockley does
Chicken and egg though isn't it? No point crossing the ball if you don't have anyone capable of doing anything with it.
We'll see. I said the same at the beginning of last season and got poo-pooed. Pre-season optimism is a powerful thing, nobody wants their chips pissed on. Understandably so.
Agree. Stockley was going to be this big goal scorer last year. He got 13 in the league.
Which in context is actually quite good. He scored 4 in Adkins' disastrous 13 game spell where we only scored 14 goals overall. He was completely marginalised in that system and it was a total mess. He was also dropped to the bench for four of those games, in one case only playing 4 minutes (75 minutes total across those 4 games, 1 goal). As soon as Adkins was out and the players looked revitalised he scored 2 in 4 games, missed three games through injury, then 1 in his next 3 before being ruled out with a bad injury. He missed 13 games overall. He then scored 6 in his next 13 games, including one period where he scored 4 in 5 games. Aside from the period where we were so bad across the board we were in the relegation zone he still managed to score fairly regularly. He's been a 1 in 2 striker for us even when we've been pretty awful and the key is making sure that the team around him is able to supply him. He's proven that if you give him chances he'll score for the team. What he won't do is drag a bad team through a horrible performance, and that's what needs to be worked on with our tactics and recruitment behind him.
McKirdy is an option financially wise, his wages won’t be much and the fee either with only one year left. If we don’t go for him I would assume Garner doesn’t fancy working with him again on account of him being a bit of a maverick.
We'll see. I said the same at the beginning of last season and got poo-pooed. Pre-season optimism is a powerful thing, nobody wants their chips pissed on. Understandably so.
Headers from corners and open play cross aren't from hoof ball. I would say Stockley was a victim of hoof ball as much as anyone else. Saying that I still don't believe that any hoof ball was by design.
Was he a victim or benefactor? He struggled so badly in the lone role under Adkins that he was shouting at the sidelines to find a better shape. Even Davison looked better in that role. People on here were saying we should play to his strengths if we've got him. When we went 352 and more direct, he was better.
Didn't watch Kilmarnock but how many high crosses did we put in the box? I would be surprised if that's a big factor in our play this season.
Funny enough we put more high cross in in the first half when Stockley wasn't playing.
The execution was the problem last season not the system it's self.
If we play to his strengths, and if the rest of the team is good enough, there is no reason you can't play "good football" and have Jayden Stockley in the team, scoring goals.
If and can are doing a lot of heavy lifting, I appreciate that, but the two things aren't mutually exclusive. I am sceptical it will happen but there isn't a reason it can't.
Agree it's all ifs but past evidence is doing some pretty heavy lifting too.
Going back to what you were saying about Jackson's football not being direct by design, was it reported (or just rumour) that TS and JJ disagreed on the style of football to get out of this league. Also remember JJ saying he wanted to sign a number of tall players.
Adkins said he wanted tall players as well. There is a massive difference between actively playing long ball and just hoofing it. The latter is what we were doing last season, under both managers.
To me the team looked like it was set up to try and play football, couldn't (there are many reasons as to why) and ended up kicking it in the random direction of someone. That's certainly not by design.
Past evidence is a bit pointless when the circumstances are totally different. Was it Bolton away when Fraser put in that perfect cross, for Aneke I think? Lee, Gilbey, Matthews, Purrington etc etc weren't going to do that. Shinnie got a lot of assists for Stockley and was hardly a hoofer.
We have 2 proven L1 quality strikers, we need four so two more are needed and Davisson to be moved on.
If Deji struggles this season (young lad etc) we have 2 CB's (no point even counting Innis), we need at least one more there.
If Sessignon gets injured we have no stand by LB so we need another.
Those 4 positions, for me, are key. I am hoping that we have some cash to spend and that is why later in the window is more likely.
A top quality L1 CB, Striker and LB could really revolutionize a squad which currently has good foundations but not enough "X factor"
Those 3 positions are a must and also another winger. CBT, DJ and Kirk is not enough either when one is injury prone and the other 2 we are hoping return to their former selves but there is no guarantee.
Probably only need 1 striker as Davison as 4th choice is fine if we are playing 1 up front he isn’t going to be used.
So a minimum of 4 more signings needed. Would also like another midfielder but probably will need to move some on before that happens
We'll see. I said the same at the beginning of last season and got poo-pooed. Pre-season optimism is a powerful thing, nobody wants their chips pissed on. Understandably so.
Agree. Stockley was going to be this big goal scorer last year. He got 13 in the league.
He was out injured for a lengthy period. Shouldn't that be taken in to consideration?
We'll see. I said the same at the beginning of last season and got poo-pooed. Pre-season optimism is a powerful thing, nobody wants their chips pissed on. Understandably so.
Agree. Stockley was going to be this big goal scorer last year. He got 13 in the league.
He was out injured for a lengthy period. Shouldn't that be taken in to consideration?
Scored 13 in 33 games. 0.39 goals per game. He missed 10 games through injury, so if he'd stayed fit then on the same ratio he would've finished the season on 17.
I'm not giving him the goals he would've scored if he hadn't got himself stupidly sent off and suspended.
(Not getting involved again, just sharing the stats).
I am feeling confident we will get one more perm and at least 3 loans of which I would now expect them to be 1 x ST, 1 x Winger, 1 x versatile left footed CB who can play LB (comfortably) and another CAM. All need to be sufficient quality, not just bodies, if we are going to have a real go at promotion this season…!
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Going back to what you were saying about Jackson's football not being direct by design, was it reported (or just rumour) that TS and JJ disagreed on the style of football to get out of this league. Also remember JJ saying he wanted to sign a number of tall players.
Looks an absolute world beater in that. Didn’t realise he scored such different types of goals, and assisted a fair few too.
To me the team looked like it was set up to try and play football, couldn't (there are many reasons as to why) and ended up kicking it in the random direction of someone. That's certainly not by design.
Past evidence is a bit pointless when the circumstances are totally different. Was it Bolton away when Fraser put in that perfect cross, for Aneke I think? Lee, Gilbey, Matthews, Purrington etc etc weren't going to do that. Shinnie got a lot of assists for Stockley and was hardly a hoofer.
I'm not giving him the goals he would've scored if he hadn't got himself stupidly sent off and suspended.
15 minutes of fame and all that eh...