My vague understanding is she does whatever she does for nothing on a part time/ad hoc basis. In other words works like a Trojan compared to resource draining Tony Keohane.
The individual will work with the club’s owner Thomas Sandgaard and Commercial Director Wayne Mumford. Sandgaard said “How we talk with fans and engage supporters is very important to how we grow as a club, which is why I want to get someone involved who really knows and understands the fanbase – who better than a Charlton fan?”
Mumford said: “Thomas and I still have a lot to learn about this club, which is why we are looking for a fan adviser. The individual will help us as we work with established and new supporter groups, to build a communication structure that allows us to speak with supporters and grow the club’s fanbase both domestically and internationally.”
Doing everything by Twitter, either at the club, or in the world generally enriches the Vangard group, Morgan Stanley and others. Twitter is not inclusive, it is a vehicle to enrich questionable forces relying on (if this isn’t too tautological) passive acceptance and participation. I suppose it is OK for participants, but it feels to me like folk saying that because they drive a Mercedes then everybody else should drive one too. For every Twitter conduit I think there should be about five others in parallel that are responded to with equal speed and thoroughness. Better still I would love to see a Twitter alternative where profits are used for the common good, where each posting counts as a non fungicide token that benefits the person creating the post. I write as somebody who has never had Facebook or Twitter or the like, and wouldn’t choose to do so. There was nothing wrong with semaphore😃
Doing everything by Twitter, either at the club, or in the world generally enriches the Vangard group, Morgan Stanley and others. Twitter is not inclusive, it is a vehicle to enrich questionable forces relying on (if this isn’t too tautological) passive acceptance and participation. I suppose it is OK for participants, but it feels to me like folk saying that because they drive a Mercedes then everybody else should drive one too. For every Twitter conduit I think there should be about five others in parallel that are responded to with equal speed and thoroughness. Better still I would love to see a Twitter alternative where profits are used for the common good, where each posting counts as a non fungicide token that benefits the person creating the post. I write as somebody who has never had Facebook or Twitter or the like, and wouldn’t choose to do so. There was nothing wrong with semaphore😃
Doing everything by Twitter, either at the club, or in the world generally enriches the Vangard group, Morgan Stanley and others. Twitter is not inclusive, it is a vehicle to enrich questionable forces relying on (if this isn’t too tautological) passive acceptance and participation. I suppose it is OK for participants, but it feels to me like folk saying that because they drive a Mercedes then everybody else should drive one too. For every Twitter conduit I think there should be about five others in parallel that are responded to with equal speed and thoroughness. Better still I would love to see a Twitter alternative where profits are used for the common good, where each posting counts as a non fungicide token that benefits the person creating the post. I write as somebody who has never had Facebook or Twitter or the like, and wouldn’t choose to do so. There was nothing wrong with semaphore😃
I'll ask you again, why is this message board service (not Charlton life but the host) any different to facebook or twitter?
Doing everything by Twitter, either at the club, or in the world generally enriches the Vangard group, Morgan Stanley and others. Twitter is not inclusive, it is a vehicle to enrich questionable forces relying on (if this isn’t too tautological) passive acceptance and participation. I suppose it is OK for participants, but it feels to me like folk saying that because they drive a Mercedes then everybody else should drive one too. For every Twitter conduit I think there should be about five others in parallel that are responded to with equal speed and thoroughness. Better still I would love to see a Twitter alternative where profits are used for the common good, where each posting counts as a non fungicide token that benefits the person creating the post. I write as somebody who has never had Facebook or Twitter or the like, and wouldn’t choose to do so. There was nothing wrong with semaphore😃
The individual will work with the club’s owner Thomas Sandgaard and Commercial Director Wayne Mumford. Sandgaard said “How we talk with fans and engage supporters is very important to how we grow as a club, which is why I want to get someone involved who really knows and understands the fanbase – who better than a Charlton fan?”
Mumford said: “Thomas and I still have a lot to learn about this club, which is why we are looking for a fan adviser. The individual will help us as we work with established and new supporter groups, to build a communication structure that allows us to speak with supporters and grow the club’s fanbase both domestically and internationally.”
So other than communicating on twitter, how does she communicate with supporters?
Not sure if she has anything to do with the increase of contact I’ve received from cafc via email, text, recorded phone messages from players and offers via my workplace RBG.
The individual will work with the club’s owner Thomas Sandgaard and Commercial Director Wayne Mumford. Sandgaard said “How we talk with fans and engage supporters is very important to how we grow as a club, which is why I want to get someone involved who really knows and understands the fanbase – who better than a Charlton fan?”
Mumford said: “Thomas and I still have a lot to learn about this club, which is why we are looking for a fan adviser. The individual will help us as we work with established and new supporter groups, to build a communication structure that allows us to speak with supporters and grow the club’s fanbase both domestically and internationally.”
So other than communicating on twitter, how does she communicate with supporters?
Not sure if she has anything to do with the increase of contact I’ve received from cafc via email, text, recorded phone messages from players and offers via my workplace RBG.
The individual will work with the club’s owner Thomas Sandgaard and Commercial Director Wayne Mumford. Sandgaard said “How we talk with fans and engage supporters is very important to how we grow as a club, which is why I want to get someone involved who really knows and understands the fanbase – who better than a Charlton fan?”
Mumford said: “Thomas and I still have a lot to learn about this club, which is why we are looking for a fan adviser. The individual will help us as we work with established and new supporter groups, to build a communication structure that allows us to speak with supporters and grow the club’s fanbase both domestically and internationally.”
So other than communicating on twitter, how does she communicate with supporters?
Not sure if she has anything to do with the increase of contact I’ve received from cafc via email, text, recorded phone messages from players and offers via my workplace RBG.
Yep, she's stalking you
Well she obviously has good taste on her CV so no surprise she got the gig.
Doing everything by Twitter, either at the club, or in the world generally enriches the Vangard group, Morgan Stanley and others. Twitter is not inclusive, it is a vehicle to enrich questionable forces relying on (if this isn’t too tautological) passive acceptance and participation. I suppose it is OK for participants, but it feels to me like folk saying that because they drive a Mercedes then everybody else should drive one too. For every Twitter conduit I think there should be about five others in parallel that are responded to with equal speed and thoroughness. Better still I would love to see a Twitter alternative where profits are used for the common good, where each posting counts as a non fungicide token that benefits the person creating the post. I write as somebody who has never had Facebook or Twitter or the like, and wouldn’t choose to do so. There was nothing wrong with semaphore😃
I'll ask you again, why is this message board service (not Charlton life but the host) any different to facebook or twitter?
Choice.
I don’t use twitter, Tik Tok, instagram, Facebook or any other unknown (to me) platforms. I use WhatsApp for my cycling club and then a couple of forums (including this). So if the communication is on one of the aforesaid I’m out of the loop. Unless it’s mentioned on here or I get email or text about the club. I suspect that although I’m in a minority in how I use social media it’s a significant minority. So the club and the fan advisor would be well advised to broaden it’s message dissemination.
Doing everything by Twitter, either at the club, or in the world generally enriches the Vangard group, Morgan Stanley and others. Twitter is not inclusive, it is a vehicle to enrich questionable forces relying on (if this isn’t too tautological) passive acceptance and participation. I suppose it is OK for participants, but it feels to me like folk saying that because they drive a Mercedes then everybody else should drive one too. For every Twitter conduit I think there should be about five others in parallel that are responded to with equal speed and thoroughness. Better still I would love to see a Twitter alternative where profits are used for the common good, where each posting counts as a non fungicide token that benefits the person creating the post. I write as somebody who has never had Facebook or Twitter or the like, and wouldn’t choose to do so. There was nothing wrong with semaphore😃
I'll ask you again, why is this message board service (not Charlton life but the host) any different to facebook or twitter?
Choice.
I don’t use twitter, Tik Tok, instagram, Facebook or any other unknown (to me) platforms. I use WhatsApp for my cycling club and then a couple of forums (including this). So if the communication is on one of the aforesaid I’m out of the loop. Unless it’s mentioned on here or I get email or text about the club. I suspect that although I’m in a minority in how I use social media it’s a significant minority. So the club and the fan advisor would be well advised to broaden it’s message dissemination.
Doing everything by Twitter, either at the club, or in the world generally enriches the Vangard group, Morgan Stanley and others. Twitter is not inclusive, it is a vehicle to enrich questionable forces relying on (if this isn’t too tautological) passive acceptance and participation. I suppose it is OK for participants, but it feels to me like folk saying that because they drive a Mercedes then everybody else should drive one too. For every Twitter conduit I think there should be about five others in parallel that are responded to with equal speed and thoroughness. Better still I would love to see a Twitter alternative where profits are used for the common good, where each posting counts as a non fungicide token that benefits the person creating the post. I write as somebody who has never had Facebook or Twitter or the like, and wouldn’t choose to do so. There was nothing wrong with semaphore😃
Doing everything by Twitter, either at the club, or in the world generally enriches the Vangard group, Morgan Stanley and others. Twitter is not inclusive, it is a vehicle to enrich questionable forces relying on (if this isn’t too tautological) passive acceptance and participation. I suppose it is OK for participants, but it feels to me like folk saying that because they drive a Mercedes then everybody else should drive one too. For every Twitter conduit I think there should be about five others in parallel that are responded to with equal speed and thoroughness. Better still I would love to see a Twitter alternative where profits are used for the common good, where each posting counts as a non fungicide token that benefits the person creating the post. I write as somebody who has never had Facebook or Twitter or the like, and wouldn’t choose to do so. There was nothing wrong with semaphore😃
Doing everything by Twitter, either at the club, or in the world generally enriches the Vangard group, Morgan Stanley and others. Twitter is not inclusive, it is a vehicle to enrich questionable forces relying on (if this isn’t too tautological) passive acceptance and participation. I suppose it is OK for participants, but it feels to me like folk saying that because they drive a Mercedes then everybody else should drive one too. For every Twitter conduit I think there should be about five others in parallel that are responded to with equal speed and thoroughness. Better still I would love to see a Twitter alternative where profits are used for the common good, where each posting counts as a non fungicide token that benefits the person creating the post. I write as somebody who has never had Facebook or Twitter or the like, and wouldn’t choose to do so. There was nothing wrong with semaphore😃
I'll ask you again, why is this message board service (not Charlton life but the host) any different to facebook or twitter?
Choice.
I don’t use twitter, Tik Tok, instagram, Facebook or any other unknown (to me) platforms. I use WhatsApp for my cycling club and then a couple of forums (including this). So if the communication is on one of the aforesaid I’m out of the loop. Unless it’s mentioned on here or I get email or text about the club. I suspect that although I’m in a minority in how I use social media it’s a significant minority. So the club and the fan advisor would be well advised to broaden it’s message dissemination.
Does anyone actually know what she does and has she done anything?
God bless anyone mad enough to sign up for one.
Its a fair question, how can this be described as shit?
Because it’s bloody rude. The insinuation in the (rhetorical, I’m sure) question is that she does nothing.
It’s not rude I’m asking a genuine question.
The 33-year-old will help manage the club’s direct interaction with supporters, giving fans the opportunity to have their say.
That was on the official site when she was appointed I don’t believe she has done anything apart from have one interview with sandgaard about 6 months ago.
The individual will work with the club’s owner Thomas Sandgaard and Commercial Director Wayne Mumford. Sandgaard said “How we talk with fans and engage supporters is very important to how we grow as a club, which is why I want to get someone involved who really knows and understands the fanbase – who better than a Charlton fan?”
Mumford said: “Thomas and I still have a lot to learn about this club, which is why we are looking for a fan adviser. The individual will help us as we work with established and new supporter groups, to build a communication structure that allows us to speak with supporters and grow the club’s fanbase both domestically and internationally.”
Last August, after CAFC appeared in the list of 191 employers who failed to pay the minimum wage, I posted the following in the subsequent thread:
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I hope the club publishes a statement on this as Coventry City have done.
I'd like it to cover:
1. Point out it happened under Duchatelet.
2. What went wrong. The type of staff who were affected, and what work activities.
3. A commitment that a system has been put in place to prevent it happening again.
4. Ideally, a commitment to move towards paying the London Living Wage, and becoming accredited by the Living Wage Foundation.
(For
those that aren't aware, this government has tried to undermine the
campaign for a living wage by rebranding the minimum wage as the
"national living wage", so causing confusion. The real Living Wage is
currently £10.85/hour in London and £9.50 elsewhere for all over 18s,
compared with the national living wage of £8.91 for the over 23s.) The
extra cost would be minimal for a club like ours, and would probably
actually pay for itself in better staff morale and lower staff turnover.
Some football clubs are already accredited.
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Henry Irving suggested that I email the Fan Advisor about it, which I did.
Like some others on this thread, I am not on twitter, facebook, or similar platforms. I have (twice) contacted the fan adviser by email to give my views when (via this forum) I found she was conducting a twitter poll, and received an acknowledgement each time. However, this is far from ideal.
My concern is that, if she is restricting her routine interaction with fans to those on twitter, she is cutting herself off from a section of fans - probably mainly older fans who have longer experience (as well as possibly being stuck in their ways!), and maybe different priorities.
I have some sympathy for her; she is doing this unpaid role in her spare time, and has probably decided that twitter encompasses the maximum return for her time. The just highlights the weakness of having a box-ticking approach to customer satisfaction, rather than a paid employee.
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In other words works like a Trojan compared to resource draining Tony Keohane.
Does there always have to be a villain?
Sandgaard said
“How we talk with fans and engage supporters is very important to how we grow as a club, which is why I want to get someone involved who really knows and understands the fanbase – who better than a Charlton fan?”
Mumford said:
“Thomas and I still have a lot to learn about this club, which is why we are looking for a fan adviser. The individual will help us as we work with established and new supporter groups, to build a communication structure that allows us to speak with supporters and grow the club’s fanbase both domestically and internationally.”
https://www.cafc.co.uk/news/view/6025317648a25/charlton-on-search-for-fan-to-help-club-engage-with-supporters
So other than communicating on twitter, how does she communicate with supporters?
Twitter is not inclusive, it is a vehicle to enrich questionable forces relying on (if this isn’t too tautological) passive acceptance and participation.
I suppose it is OK for participants, but it feels to me like folk saying that because they drive a Mercedes then everybody else should drive one too.
For every Twitter conduit I think there should be about five others in parallel that are responded to with equal speed and thoroughness.
Better still I would love to see a Twitter alternative where profits are used for the common good, where each posting counts as a non fungicide token that benefits the person creating the post.
I write as somebody who has never had Facebook or Twitter or the like, and wouldn’t choose to do so.
There was nothing wrong with semaphore😃
Is it an Elfsborg sized boomerang?
I use WhatsApp for my cycling club and then a couple of forums (including this). So if the communication is on one of the aforesaid I’m out of the loop. Unless it’s mentioned on here or I get email or text about the club.
I suspect that although I’m in a minority in how I use social media it’s a significant minority. So the club and the fan advisor would be well advised to broaden it’s message dissemination.
Give me a quill and a pot of ink every time
That was on the official site when she was appointed I don’t believe she has done anything apart from have one interview with sandgaard about 6 months ago.
I have (twice) contacted the fan adviser by email to give my views when (via this forum) I found she was conducting a twitter poll, and received an acknowledgement each time. However, this is far from ideal.
My concern is that, if she is restricting her routine interaction with fans to those on twitter, she is cutting herself off from a section of fans - probably mainly older fans who have longer experience (as well as possibly being stuck in their ways!), and maybe different priorities.
I have some sympathy for her; she is doing this unpaid role in her spare time, and has probably decided that twitter encompasses the maximum return for her time. The just highlights the weakness of having a box-ticking approach to customer satisfaction, rather than a paid employee.