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  • The_Organiser
    The_Organiser Posts: 3,999
    edited January 2022
    So today we had a pitch invasion, homophobic abuse and a bottle thrown at the Cheltenham scorer

    Let’s see how much coverage it gets in the media and on wider social media as apparently Millwall don’t get a disproportionate negative press in this regard, which I found laughable on the other thread after their incidents vs palace.

    Let’s not make ourselves look silly with these threads.


  • MillwallFan
    MillwallFan Posts: 3,347
    The_Organiser said:
    So today we had a pitch invasion, homophobic abuse and a bottle thrown at the Cheltenham keeper.

    Let’s see how much coverage it gets in the media and on wider social media as apparently Millwall don’t get a disproportionate negative press in this regard, which I found laughable on the other thread after their incidents vs palace.

    Let’s not make ourselves look silly with these threads.


    Not a lot by the looks of it, nothing mentioned on soccer Saturday or in the match report on the bbc website. 
  • The_Organiser
    The_Organiser Posts: 3,999
    edited January 2022
    Of course not and it’s a bit embarrassing how naive some of our lot are on 1. What goes on at other clubs, including our own, and 2. The biased and disproportionate reporting of these type of incidents.
  • killerandflash
    killerandflash Posts: 69,840
    MillwallFan said:
    The_Organiser said:
    So today we had a pitch invasion, homophobic abuse and a bottle thrown at the Cheltenham keeper.

    Let’s see how much coverage it gets in the media and on wider social media as apparently Millwall don’t get a disproportionate negative press in this regard, which I found laughable on the other thread after their incidents vs palace.

    Let’s not make ourselves look silly with these threads.


    Not a lot by the looks of it, nothing mentioned on soccer Saturday or in the match report on the bbc website. 
    A live game on the BBC and ITV will get all the headlines, whereas L1 is well down the pecking order as far as wider media interest.

  • MillwallFan
    MillwallFan Posts: 3,347
    killerandflash said:
    MillwallFan said:
    The_Organiser said:
    So today we had a pitch invasion, homophobic abuse and a bottle thrown at the Cheltenham keeper.

    Let’s see how much coverage it gets in the media and on wider social media as apparently Millwall don’t get a disproportionate negative press in this regard, which I found laughable on the other thread after their incidents vs palace.

    Let’s not make ourselves look silly with these threads.


    Not a lot by the looks of it, nothing mentioned on soccer Saturday or in the match report on the bbc website. 
    A live game on the BBC and ITV will get all the headlines, whereas L1 is well down the pecking order as far as wider media interest.

    I could cite occasions where it’s happened at other high profile televised games and it doesn’t get the coverage (if it’s one of the so called big clubs it will barely get a mention, if at all) and I could also cite L1 games we’ve been involved in and somethings happened and it’s been heavily reported. 

    Fair play @The_Organiser for looking at this through unbiased eyes. 

    I’m not saying we’re all angels, of course we’re not, and some of you may say we’ve brought a lot of it on ourselves by playing up to the image, and that’s a fair point. But all the time the media focus their attention on one small (ish 😉) club in SE London with a thuggish sounding name, whilst turning a blind eye to lots of other clubs, then the issues will never ever be sorted. 
  • bobmunro
    bobmunro Posts: 20,842
    MillwallFan said:
    killerandflash said:
    MillwallFan said:
    The_Organiser said:
    So today we had a pitch invasion, homophobic abuse and a bottle thrown at the Cheltenham keeper.

    Let’s see how much coverage it gets in the media and on wider social media as apparently Millwall don’t get a disproportionate negative press in this regard, which I found laughable on the other thread after their incidents vs palace.

    Let’s not make ourselves look silly with these threads.


    Not a lot by the looks of it, nothing mentioned on soccer Saturday or in the match report on the bbc website. 
    A live game on the BBC and ITV will get all the headlines, whereas L1 is well down the pecking order as far as wider media interest.

    I could cite occasions where it’s happened at other high profile televised games and it doesn’t get the coverage (if it’s one of the so called big clubs it will barely get a mention, if at all) and I could also cite L1 games we’ve been involved in and somethings happened and it’s been heavily reported. 

    Fair play @The_Organiser for looking at this through unbiased eyes. 

    I’m not saying we’re all angels, of course we’re not, and some of you may say we’ve brought a lot of it on ourselves by playing up to the image, and that’s a fair point. But all the time the media focus their attention on one small (ish 😉) club in SE London with a thuggish sounding name, whilst turning a blind eye to lots of other clubs, then the issues will never ever be sorted. 

    ish?
  • Henry Irving
    Henry Irving Posts: 85,215
    RodneyCharltonTrotta said:
    Fuck me, for a club who proudly proclaim "no one likes us we don't care" their fans don't half bleat on about being unfairly treated and disliked by the masses.

    Not the Millwall of old. Victimwall in 2022.

    Wrong uns and inadequates at every club including our own. Yes the sanctimony from Charlton fans is a bit pious and i wonder how many are so shocked when I expect the 70s and 80s were horrific by comparison but that's the difference....the stuff is called out as wrong and idiotic by the majority rather than the minority. Difference is most Charlton fans are openly and vocally scornful of such antics and oddballs amongst their ranks whereas Millwall lap up the image and its part of the dna of the image of the club that jhas been carefully crafted and is continually embraced as otherwise they would just be another brentford  or Morecambe if it was just down to football matters.


    If Millwall want to be treated the same then they'll have to stop noshing off the notorious PR they've worked so hard to portray and maintain but there's no appetite to do it as they will just become (even more) irrelevant as a football club if they did.

    Can't have it both ways.  Can't have the proper naughty geezer rep and go up and down the country fighting and embracing the "most feared club" bullshit culture in 2022 etc then cry when the media jumps on the bandwagon.

    Pretty much every millwall fan i have met including mates and normal sound blokes absolutely toss themselves off over the rep and image supporting the club gives them by association and never ever call out the wrong un stuff.  It's dressed up as a siege mentality but that's romantic bullshit...they embrace it proudly or won't speak out against it as if they did it would diminish their image and "wallness" which they need to cling on to even harder now they live in semi detatched houses in suburbia and kent.

    It's hilarious.



    Spot on 

    Give this man one of my promotes
  • Redrobo
    Redrobo Posts: 11,330
    The_Organiser said:
    So today we had a pitch invasion, homophobic abuse and a bottle thrown at the Cheltenham scorer

    Let’s see how much coverage it gets in the media and on wider social media as apparently Millwall don’t get a disproportionate negative press in this regard, which I found laughable on the other thread after their incidents vs palace.

    Let’s not make ourselves look silly with these threads.


    Condemned by almost all supporters with calls for them to be banned for life from following us. 
    And by all reports just a few individuals. Not a small minority of several hundred repeat offenders. 
    We should not be complacent and we need to root the scum out, but the comparison with the scale of the problem at Millwall is ridiculous.
  • Southendaddick
    Southendaddick Posts: 5,314
    Absolutely nailed it Rodney
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  • The_Organiser
    The_Organiser Posts: 3,999
    Redrobo said:
    The_Organiser said:
    So today we had a pitch invasion, homophobic abuse and a bottle thrown at the Cheltenham scorer

    Let’s see how much coverage it gets in the media and on wider social media as apparently Millwall don’t get a disproportionate negative press in this regard, which I found laughable on the other thread after their incidents vs palace.

    Let’s not make ourselves look silly with these threads.


    Condemned by almost all supporters with calls for them to be banned for life from following us. 
    And by all reports just a few individuals. Not a small minority of several hundred repeat offenders. 
    We should not be complacent and we need to root the scum out, but the comparison with the scale of the problem at Millwall is ridiculous.
    Redrobo, it was not so much a comparison, more a response to comments made on the Millwall v palace thread recently, where people were suggesting the media turn a blind eye to what Millwall get up to. I was just using yesterday as a timely example to show that is clearly not the case.




  • RaplhMilne
    RaplhMilne Posts: 4,601
    RodneyCharltonTrotta said:
    Fuck me, for a club who proudly proclaim "no one likes us we don't care" their fans don't half bleat on about being unfairly treated and disliked by the masses.

    Not the Millwall of old. Victimwall in 2022.

    Wrong uns and inadequates at every club including our own. Yes the sanctimony from Charlton fans is a bit pious and i wonder how many are so shocked when I expect the 70s and 80s were horrific by comparison but that's the difference....the stuff is called out as wrong and idiotic by the majority rather than the minority. Difference is most Charlton fans are openly and vocally scornful of such antics and oddballs amongst their ranks whereas Millwall lap up the image and its part of the dna of the image of the club that jhas been carefully crafted and is continually embraced as otherwise they would just be another brentford  or Morecambe if it was just down to football matters.


    If Millwall want to be treated the same then they'll have to stop noshing off the notorious PR they've worked so hard to portray and maintain but there's no appetite to do it as they will just become (even more) irrelevant as a football club if they did.

    Can't have it both ways.  Can't have the proper naughty geezer rep and go up and down the country fighting and embracing the "most feared club" bullshit culture in 2022 etc then cry when the media jumps on the bandwagon.

    Pretty much every millwall fan i have met including mates and normal sound blokes absolutely toss themselves off over the rep and image supporting the club gives them by association and never ever call out the wrong un stuff.  It's dressed up as a siege mentality but that's romantic bullshit...they embrace it proudly or won't speak out against it as if they did it would diminish their image and "wallness" which they need to cling on to even harder now they live in semi detatched houses in suburbia and kent.

    It's hilarious.



    What a well thought out and produced piece. Having in the past been a regular at the Den with Millwall mates when couldn’t get to our away games, iv seen them in their natural habitat for many years. Your comments are spot on. As has been said many time lots of clubs have a small hooligan element pretending to be normal fans. Millwall have a large Normal element pretending to be hooligans.  Therefore objection to the actions of their real hooligan element, is at best to ignore it, at worse to try and accept some hooligan kudus by association. 

    But, equally without the notoriety, they are just another Fulham or Watford.
  • ROTW
    ROTW Posts: 642
    And I guess that’s why you would walk from New Cross the ground rather than South Bermondsey?
  • MillwallFan
    MillwallFan Posts: 3,347
    RodneyCharltonTrotta said:
    Fuck me, for a club who proudly proclaim "no one likes us we don't care" their fans don't half bleat on about being unfairly treated and disliked by the masses.

    Not the Millwall of old. Victimwall in 2022.

    Wrong uns and inadequates at every club including our own. Yes the sanctimony from Charlton fans is a bit pious and i wonder how many are so shocked when I expect the 70s and 80s were horrific by comparison but that's the difference....the stuff is called out as wrong and idiotic by the majority rather than the minority. Difference is most Charlton fans are openly and vocally scornful of such antics and oddballs amongst their ranks whereas Millwall lap up the image and its part of the dna of the image of the club that jhas been carefully crafted and is continually embraced as otherwise they would just be another brentford  or Morecambe if it was just down to football matters.


    RaplhMilne said:
    RodneyCharltonTrotta said:
    Fuck me, for a club who proudly proclaim "no one likes us we don't care" their fans don't half bleat on about being unfairly treated and disliked by the masses.

    Not the Millwall of old. Victimwall in 2022.

    Wrong uns and inadequates at every club including our own. Yes the sanctimony from Charlton fans is a bit pious and i wonder how many are so shocked when I expect the 70s and 80s were horrific by comparison but that's the difference....the stuff is called out as wrong and idiotic by the majority rather than the minority. Difference is most Charlton fans are openly and vocally scornful of such antics and oddballs amongst their ranks whereas Millwall lap up the image and its part of the dna of the image of the club that jhas been carefully crafted and is continually embraced as otherwise they would just be another brentford  or Morecambe if it was just down to football matters.


    If Millwall want to be treated the same then they'll have to stop noshing off the notorious PR they've worked so hard to portray and maintain but there's no appetite to do it as they will just become (even more) irrelevant as a football club if they did.

    Can't have it both ways.  Can't have the proper naughty geezer rep and go up and down the country fighting and embracing the "most feared club" bullshit culture in 2022 etc then cry when the media jumps on the bandwagon.

    Pretty much every millwall fan i have met including mates and normal sound blokes absolutely toss themselves off over the rep and image supporting the club gives them by association and never ever call out the wrong un stuff.  It's dressed up as a siege mentality but that's romantic bullshit...they embrace it proudly or won't speak out against it as if they did it would diminish their image and "wallness" which they need to cling on to even harder now they live in semi detatched houses in suburbia and kent.

    It's hilarious.



    What a well thought out and produced piece. Having in the past been a regular at the Den with Millwall mates when couldn’t get to our away games, iv seen them in their natural habitat for many years. Your comments are spot on. As has been said many time lots of clubs have a small hooligan element pretending to be normal fans. Millwall have a large Normal element pretending to be hooligans.  Therefore objection to the actions of their real hooligan element, is at best to ignore it, at worse to try and accept some hooligan kudus by association. 

    But, equally without the notoriety, they are just another Fulham or Watford.
    Or another Charlton?? 

    The irony of these comments, coming from Charlton fans. You’re basically seen as the Reading FC of London football 😂
  • Baldybonce
    Baldybonce Posts: 9,640
    MillwallFan said:
    RodneyCharltonTrotta said:
    Fuck me, for a club who proudly proclaim "no one likes us we don't care" their fans don't half bleat on about being unfairly treated and disliked by the masses.

    Not the Millwall of old. Victimwall in 2022.

    Wrong uns and inadequates at every club including our own. Yes the sanctimony from Charlton fans is a bit pious and i wonder how many are so shocked when I expect the 70s and 80s were horrific by comparison but that's the difference....the stuff is called out as wrong and idiotic by the majority rather than the minority. Difference is most Charlton fans are openly and vocally scornful of such antics and oddballs amongst their ranks whereas Millwall lap up the image and its part of the dna of the image of the club that jhas been carefully crafted and is continually embraced as otherwise they would just be another brentford  or Morecambe if it was just down to football matters.


    RaplhMilne said:
    RodneyCharltonTrotta said:
    Fuck me, for a club who proudly proclaim "no one likes us we don't care" their fans don't half bleat on about being unfairly treated and disliked by the masses.

    Not the Millwall of old. Victimwall in 2022.

    Wrong uns and inadequates at every club including our own. Yes the sanctimony from Charlton fans is a bit pious and i wonder how many are so shocked when I expect the 70s and 80s were horrific by comparison but that's the difference....the stuff is called out as wrong and idiotic by the majority rather than the minority. Difference is most Charlton fans are openly and vocally scornful of such antics and oddballs amongst their ranks whereas Millwall lap up the image and its part of the dna of the image of the club that jhas been carefully crafted and is continually embraced as otherwise they would just be another brentford  or Morecambe if it was just down to football matters.


    If Millwall want to be treated the same then they'll have to stop noshing off the notorious PR they've worked so hard to portray and maintain but there's no appetite to do it as they will just become (even more) irrelevant as a football club if they did.

    Can't have it both ways.  Can't have the proper naughty geezer rep and go up and down the country fighting and embracing the "most feared club" bullshit culture in 2022 etc then cry when the media jumps on the bandwagon.

    Pretty much every millwall fan i have met including mates and normal sound blokes absolutely toss themselves off over the rep and image supporting the club gives them by association and never ever call out the wrong un stuff.  It's dressed up as a siege mentality but that's romantic bullshit...they embrace it proudly or won't speak out against it as if they did it would diminish their image and "wallness" which they need to cling on to even harder now they live in semi detatched houses in suburbia and kent.

    It's hilarious.



    What a well thought out and produced piece. Having in the past been a regular at the Den with Millwall mates when couldn’t get to our away games, iv seen them in their natural habitat for many years. Your comments are spot on. As has been said many time lots of clubs have a small hooligan element pretending to be normal fans. Millwall have a large Normal element pretending to be hooligans.  Therefore objection to the actions of their real hooligan element, is at best to ignore it, at worse to try and accept some hooligan kudus by association. 

    But, equally without the notoriety, they are just another Fulham or Watford.
    Or another Charlton?? 

    The irony of these comments, coming from Charlton fans. You’re basically seen as the Reading FC of London football 😂
    Better than the scum of the football league i suppose 😉
  • Big_Bad_World
    Big_Bad_World Posts: 5,859
    edited January 2022
    Can everyone just calm down.

    With the recent emergence (well, not recent, but more widely reported) of the bellend arm of CAFC's support and the rearing of its ugly head more and more, it won't be long before we're neck and neck in the wallies league table.

    We can then unite and all be outraged and triggered together when someone makes any comment about either club or its supporters.

    I look forward to the frothing at the mouth and general musical chair behaviour as people try their utmost to distance themselves from the behaviour of some of their fans. As far as I'm aware this is how it goes, right? Fans being bellends is a reflection of the club they support. Seems that's the equation bestowed upon us so only fair that it's used for your goodselves as well.

    Welcome to the club(s), all.

    Let the musical chairs begin  :D
  • RodneyCharltonTrotta
    RodneyCharltonTrotta Posts: 14,827
    edited January 2022
    MillwallFan said:
    RodneyCharltonTrotta said:
    Fuck me, for a club who proudly proclaim "no one likes us we don't care" their fans don't half bleat on about being unfairly treated and disliked by the masses.

    Not the Millwall of old. Victimwall in 2022.

    Wrong uns and inadequates at every club including our own. Yes the sanctimony from Charlton fans is a bit pious and i wonder how many are so shocked when I expect the 70s and 80s were horrific by comparison but that's the difference....the stuff is called out as wrong and idiotic by the majority rather than the minority. Difference is most Charlton fans are openly and vocally scornful of such antics and oddballs amongst their ranks whereas Millwall lap up the image and its part of the dna of the image of the club that jhas been carefully crafted and is continually embraced as otherwise they would just be another brentford  or Morecambe if it was just down to football matters.


    RaplhMilne said:
    RodneyCharltonTrotta said:
    Fuck me, for a club who proudly proclaim "no one likes us we don't care" their fans don't half bleat on about being unfairly treated and disliked by the masses.

    Not the Millwall of old. Victimwall in 2022.

    Wrong uns and inadequates at every club including our own. Yes the sanctimony from Charlton fans is a bit pious and i wonder how many are so shocked when I expect the 70s and 80s were horrific by comparison but that's the difference....the stuff is called out as wrong and idiotic by the majority rather than the minority. Difference is most Charlton fans are openly and vocally scornful of such antics and oddballs amongst their ranks whereas Millwall lap up the image and its part of the dna of the image of the club that jhas been carefully crafted and is continually embraced as otherwise they would just be another brentford  or Morecambe if it was just down to football matters.


    If Millwall want to be treated the same then they'll have to stop noshing off the notorious PR they've worked so hard to portray and maintain but there's no appetite to do it as they will just become (even more) irrelevant as a football club if they did.

    Can't have it both ways.  Can't have the proper naughty geezer rep and go up and down the country fighting and embracing the "most feared club" bullshit culture in 2022 etc then cry when the media jumps on the bandwagon.

    Pretty much every millwall fan i have met including mates and normal sound blokes absolutely toss themselves off over the rep and image supporting the club gives them by association and never ever call out the wrong un stuff.  It's dressed up as a siege mentality but that's romantic bullshit...they embrace it proudly or won't speak out against it as if they did it would diminish their image and "wallness" which they need to cling on to even harder now they live in semi detatched houses in suburbia and kent.

    It's hilarious.



    What a well thought out and produced piece. Having in the past been a regular at the Den with Millwall mates when couldn’t get to our away games, iv seen them in their natural habitat for many years. Your comments are spot on. As has been said many time lots of clubs have a small hooligan element pretending to be normal fans. Millwall have a large Normal element pretending to be hooligans.  Therefore objection to the actions of their real hooligan element, is at best to ignore it, at worse to try and accept some hooligan kudus by association. 

    But, equally without the notoriety, they are just another Fulham or Watford.
    Or another Charlton?? 

    The irony of these comments, coming from Charlton fans. You’re basically seen as the Reading FC of London football 😂
    Yep or another Charlton.  

    I accept the Reading comparison and understand that no one outside of Charlton really has Charlton on their radar and I'm comfortable with that.  Christ, even people who live in Charlton don't even seem to have us on their radar going by the other club shirts on display round there and Woolwich.

    Point being, taking away the notoriety image element associated with Millwall which is out of place in this day and age then I would expect the same.   Same as with Charlton, I imagine many kids round New Cross and Deptford are wearing Arsenal shirts (?) and that if it was purely down to football, rather than the image that is portrayed then you would be as equally irrelevant.

    The club can't keep holding onto that manufactured and carefully maintained identity that was organic as a result of Millwall's environment back in the day and expect the media/ wider football not to point out how out of place and irrelevant it is nowdays. Might have meant something when the club was attended predominantly by dockers and those in the immediate locale in the harsh times of SE London in yesteryear and  even up to 30 years ago but it has been diluted by the fact many live relatively comfortable lives, jobs with H&S legislation, nice comfortable homes in one of the most prosperous parts of the world.  


    I don't care that our club is perceived as bland and unimportant outside of those of us who love it and am happy with our club being what it is.  No one knows us...we don't care.

  • Leuth
    Leuth Posts: 23,313
    Now that hooliganism's all become a bit too much like hard work, the dutiful Millwall fan tries to remain dangerous by becoming a webforum provocateur. Almost quaint if you think about it 
  • Big_Bad_World
    Big_Bad_World Posts: 5,859
    edited January 2022
    Career projector and provocateur in projecting and provocation shocker  :o

    The music stopped and, whilst you were busy projecting, everyone else found a chair. Out you go.
  • Leuth
    Leuth Posts: 23,313
    Aw, you're feeling a bit rowdy today! Cute 
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  • Big_Bad_World
    Big_Bad_World Posts: 5,859
    edited January 2022
    Nope. That's you projecting and framing, as per.

    You need to calm down as dressed up anger isn't a good look for you.

    As I said, the music stopped.

    You're that kid that stands there crying when there's no chairs left after the music stops playing. Snot dribbling down your philtrum, with an 'it's not fair' look on your face.
  • seth plum
    seth plum Posts: 53,448
    MillwallFan said:’
    RodneyCharltonTrotta said:
    Fuck me, for a club who proudly proclaim "no one likes us we don't care" their fans don't half bleat on about being unfairly treated and disliked by the masses.

    Not the Millwall of old. Victimwall in 2022.

    Wrong uns and inadequates at every club including our own. Yes the sanctimony from Charlton fans is a bit pious and i wonder how many are so shocked when I expect the 70s and 80s were horrific by comparison but that's the difference....the stuff is called out as wrong and idiotic by the majority rather than the minority. Difference is most Charlton fans are openly and vocally scornful of such antics and oddballs amongst their ranks whereas Millwall lap up the image and its part of the dna of the image of the club that jhas been carefully crafted and is continually embraced as otherwise they would just be another brentford  or Morecambe if it was just down to football matters.


    RaplhMilne said:
    RodneyCharltonTrotta said:
    Fuck me, for a club who proudly proclaim "no one likes us we don't care" their fans don't half bleat on about being unfairly treated and disliked by the masses.

    Not the Millwall of old. Victimwall in 2022.

    Wrong uns and inadequates at every club including our own. Yes the sanctimony from Charlton fans is a bit pious and i wonder how many are so shocked when I expect the 70s and 80s were horrific by comparison but that's the difference....the stuff is called out as wrong and idiotic by the majority rather than the minority. Difference is most Charlton fans are openly and vocally scornful of such antics and oddballs amongst their ranks whereas Millwall lap up the image and its part of the dna of the image of the club that jhas been carefully crafted and is continually embraced as otherwise they would just be another brentford  or Morecambe if it was just down to football matters.


    If Millwall want to be treated the same then they'll have to stop noshing off the notorious PR they've worked so hard to portray and maintain but there's no appetite to do it as they will just become (even more) irrelevant as a football club if they did.

    Can't have it both ways.  Can't have the proper naughty geezer rep and go up and down the country fighting and embracing the "most feared club" bullshit culture in 2022 etc then cry when the media jumps on the bandwagon.

    Pretty much every millwall fan i have met including mates and normal sound blokes absolutely toss themselves off over the rep and image supporting the club gives them by association and never ever call out the wrong un stuff.  It's dressed up as a siege mentality but that's romantic bullshit...they embrace it proudly or won't speak out against it as if they did it would diminish their image and "wallness" which they need to cling on to even harder now they live in semi detatched houses in suburbia and kent.

    It's hilarious.



    What a well thought out and produced piece. Having in the past been a regular at the Den with Millwall mates when couldn’t get to our away games, iv seen them in their natural habitat for many years. Your comments are spot on. As has been said many time lots of clubs have a small hooligan element pretending to be normal fans. Millwall have a large Normal element pretending to be hooligans.  Therefore objection to the actions of their real hooligan element, is at best to ignore it, at worse to try and accept some hooligan kudus by association. 

    But, equally without the notoriety, they are just another Fulham or Watford.
    Or another Charlton?? 

    The irony of these comments, coming from Charlton fans. You’re basically seen as the Reading FC of London football 😂
    ‘You’re basically seen as….’.
    The voice of authority regarding the perception by the whole world after passing through the pea brain of a Millwall fan.
    Awaiting the other world wide judgements like the basic world view of the works of Samuel Beckett, or how the whole wide world regards the works of Aristotle.
    Millwall fans will provide in depth analysis that the whole world will agree with.
    ‘I see you as….’ would be the reaction of most, but the Millwall fan invokes an imaginary host of acolytes they think will agree with them.
  • seth plum
    seth plum Posts: 53,448
    I don’t want to distance myself from the rank and vile contingent of our support, I want to confront them not equivocate to the point they are accepted, as fans of a certain other club seem to do.
  • se9addick
    se9addick Posts: 32,033
    Rodney’s on fire today 
  • Big_Bad_World
    Big_Bad_World Posts: 5,859
    Absolutely. Confronting the bad people in the world is the right way to go. I hope you carry that through in all aspects of your life. Plenty of people for you to confront.

    Good luck in your endeavours and please report back on how you get on.
  • KBslittlesis
    KBslittlesis Posts: 8,597
    RodneyCharltonTrotta said:
    Fuck me, for a club who proudly proclaim "no one likes us we don't care" their fans don't half bleat on about being unfairly treated and disliked by the masses.

    Not the Millwall of old. Victimwall in 2022.

    Wrong uns and inadequates at every club including our own. Yes the sanctimony from Charlton fans is a bit pious and i wonder how many are so shocked when I expect the 70s and 80s were horrific by comparison but that's the difference....the stuff is called out as wrong and idiotic by the majority rather than the minority. Difference is most Charlton fans are openly and vocally scornful of such antics and oddballs amongst their ranks whereas Millwall lap up the image and its part of the dna of the image of the club that jhas been carefully crafted and is continually embraced as otherwise they would just be another brentford  or Morecambe if it was just down to football matters.


    If Millwall want to be treated the same then they'll have to stop noshing off the notorious PR they've worked so hard to portray and maintain but there's no appetite to do it as they will just become (even more) irrelevant as a football club if they did.

    Can't have it both ways.  Can't have the proper naughty geezer rep and go up and down the country fighting and embracing the "most feared club" bullshit culture in 2022 etc then cry when the media jumps on the bandwagon.

    Pretty much every millwall fan i have met including mates and normal sound blokes absolutely toss themselves off over the rep and image supporting the club gives them by association and never ever call out the wrong un stuff.  It's dressed up as a siege mentality but that's romantic bullshit...they embrace it proudly or won't speak out against it as if they did it would diminish their image and "wallness" which they need to cling on to even harder now they live in semi detatched houses in suburbia and kent.

    It's hilarious.



    Theo tried that.
    It worked for a time.
    You could say it coincided with their most successful period.
    Lowest arrests, FA Cup run, European football.

    But it wasn’t ‘proper’ Wall 🤷‍♀️
  • Friend Or Defoe
    Friend Or Defoe Posts: 18,076
    Although they clearly get more negative media coverage than the rest, they do bring it on themselves. Who else would do this?


  • Big_Bad_World
    Big_Bad_World Posts: 5,859
    edited January 2022
    Friend Or Defoe said:
    Although they clearly get more negative media coverage than the rest, they do bring it on themselves. Who else would do this?


    Two more, found via a quick search on Google:

    https://www.examinerlive.co.uk/news/west-yorkshire-news/outrage-after-town-fan-unfurls-12563535



    Happy to provide more if required.
  • Leuth
    Leuth Posts: 23,313
    Big_Bad_World said:
    Friend Or Defoe said:
    Although they clearly get more negative media coverage than the rest, they do bring it on themselves. Who else would do this?


    Two more, found via a quick search on Google:

    https://www.examinerlive.co.uk/news/west-yorkshire-news/outrage-after-town-fan-unfurls-12563535



    Happy to provide more if required.
    Thank you for providing a graphic and stark distinction between 'one or two idiots' and 'a whole stand of them' 
  • Big_Bad_World
    Big_Bad_World Posts: 5,859
    edited January 2022
    Leuth said:
    Big_Bad_World said:
    Friend Or Defoe said:
    Although they clearly get more negative media coverage than the rest, they do bring it on themselves. Who else would do this?


    Two more, found via a quick search on Google:

    https://www.examinerlive.co.uk/news/west-yorkshire-news/outrage-after-town-fan-unfurls-12563535



    Happy to provide more if required.
    Thank you for providing a graphic and stark distinction between 'one or two idiots' and 'a whole stand of them' 
    Bore off. A whole sta......hang on, yet more provocation. You nearly got me. Did you find a chair on the sidelines to regroup, compose yourself and mask that inner anger you struggle to contain?

    The question was 'who else would do this?'. I answered it and you got all triggery, again. Strange individual.

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