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Desmond Tutu RIP

hoof_it_up_to_benty
hoof_it_up_to_benty Posts: 22,488
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A truly inspirational man who achieved so much. RIP
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  • Redmidland
    Redmidland Posts: 44,700
    He fought many battles on different issues, but by far the greatest was helping to bring down apartheid.
    RIP Sir.
  • Algarveaddick
    Algarveaddick Posts: 21,196
    RIP
  • carly burn
    carly burn Posts: 19,501
    Redmidland said:
    He fought many battles on different issues, but by far the greatest was helping to bring down apartheid.
    RIP Sir.
     Very true. And a close second was once being Paul Mortimer's kit sponsor.

    RIP
  • hoof_it_up_to_benty
    hoof_it_up_to_benty Posts: 22,488
    Went to hear him speak once in Aldgate - he was so inspiring to listen to and such a positive man. A  great loss.
  • iainment
    iainment Posts: 8,048
    Great man. Sad loss.
  • MuttleyCAFC
    MuttleyCAFC Posts: 47,778
    One of those people whose niceness, for want of a better word, shone through every time. There was a good man as well as a great man. Some can tick one off but fewer both. R.I.P.
  • MrOneLung
    MrOneLung Posts: 26,920
    carly burn said:
    Redmidland said:
    He fought many battles on different issues, but by far the greatest was helping to bring down apartheid.
    RIP Sir.
     Very true. And a close second was once being Paul Mortimer's kit sponsor.

    RIP
    Wait, what? 
  • golfaddick
    golfaddick Posts: 33,783
    Legend of a man. Gave his name to a degree & a scoreline. 

    RIP.
  • cfgs
    cfgs Posts: 11,495
    RIP to a man of peace who grew up in a country at war with its own people 
  • seth plum
    seth plum Posts: 53,448
    Great man. Fought apartheid, and he was an inspiration.

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  • holyjo
    holyjo Posts: 1,330
    A great man of courage and principle with a real sense of fun and mischievousness. 
  • guinnessaddick
    guinnessaddick Posts: 28,781
    RIP 
  • paulbaconsarnie
    paulbaconsarnie Posts: 9,427
    RIP
    it wasn’t until earlier this year that I found out his first parish was in lewisham and he used to live in grove park. 
    I wonder where he got his newspaper.
  • Lincsaddick
    Lincsaddick Posts: 32,386
    helped to bring about world wide changes .. a man of love & peace .. R I P
  • holyjo
    holyjo Posts: 1,330
    ADT Quotes worthy of recall

    1. “We may be surprised at the people we find in heaven. God has a soft spot for sinners. His standards are quite low.”

    2. “Do your little bit of good where you are; it's those little bits of good put together that overwhelm the world.”

    3. “Differences are not intended to separate, to alienate. We are different precisely in order to realise our need of one another.”

    4. “When the missionaries came to Africa they had the Bible and we had the land. They said "Let us pray." We closed our eyes. When we opened them we had the Bible and they had the land.”

    5. “If you are neutral in situations of injustice, you have chosen the side of the oppressor. If an elephant has its foot on the tail of a mouse, and you say that you are neutral, the mouse will not appreciate your neutrality.”

    6. “My father always used to say, "Don't raise your voice. Improve your argument." Good sense does not always lie with the loudest shouters, nor can we say that a large, unruly crowd is always the best arbiter of what is right.”

    7. “Forgiving is not forgetting; its actually remembering--remembering and not using your right to hit back. Its a second chance for a new beginning. And the remembering part is particularly important. Especially if you dont want to repeat what happened.”

    8. “We learn from history that we don't learn from history.”

    9. “Language is very powerful. Language does not just describe reality. Language creates the reality it describes.”

    10. “A person is a person through other persons; you can't be human in isolation; you are human only in relationships.”
  • Bangkokaddick
    Bangkokaddick Posts: 4,305
    The Oval Tandoori in Kennington used to have a list of people that recommended the place. It always amused me that near the bottom of the list was Archbishop Desmond Tutu! One of his lesser achievements, I'd say.

    RIP
  • seth plum
    seth plum Posts: 53,448
    He also said ‘There comes a point where we have to stop pulling people out of the river. We need to go upstream and find out why people are falling in’.
    Seems a perfect statement in relation to the poor desperate folk making dangerous channel crossings on flimsy rubber dinghys.
  • PrincessFiona
    PrincessFiona Posts: 5,491
    edited December 2021
    seth plum said:
    He also said ‘There comes a point where we have to stop pulling people out of the river. We need to go upstream and find out why people are falling in’.
    Seems a perfect statement in relation to the poor desperate folk making dangerous channel crossings on flimsy rubber dinghys.
    We know why they are coming. What we need to be able to do is more easily distinguish between the varying reasons (and desperations for that matter) for it - but for a different thread
  • seth plum
    seth plum Posts: 53,448
    PrincessFiona said:
    seth plum said:
    He also said ‘There comes a point where we have to stop pulling people out of the river. We need to go upstream and find out why people are falling in’.
    Seems a perfect statement in relation to the poor desperate folk making dangerous channel crossings on flimsy rubber dinghys.
    We know why they are coming. What we need to be able to do is more easily distinguish between the varying reasons for it - but for a different thread
    Yes a different thread. To my thinking it was water that created the link, a river and the sea.
  • PrincessFiona
    PrincessFiona Posts: 5,491
    seth plum said:
    PrincessFiona said:
    seth plum said:
    He also said ‘There comes a point where we have to stop pulling people out of the river. We need to go upstream and find out why people are falling in’.
    Seems a perfect statement in relation to the poor desperate folk making dangerous channel crossings on flimsy rubber dinghys.
    We know why they are coming. What we need to be able to do is more easily distinguish between the varying reasons for it - but for a different thread
    Yes a different thread. To my thinking it was water that created the link, a river and the sea.
    Yeah, not like you to politicise a discussion

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  • seth plum
    seth plum Posts: 53,448
    PrincessFiona said:
    seth plum said:
    PrincessFiona said:
    seth plum said:
    He also said ‘There comes a point where we have to stop pulling people out of the river. We need to go upstream and find out why people are falling in’.
    Seems a perfect statement in relation to the poor desperate folk making dangerous channel crossings on flimsy rubber dinghys.
    We know why they are coming. What we need to be able to do is more easily distinguish between the varying reasons for it - but for a different thread
    Yes a different thread. To my thinking it was water that created the link, a river and the sea.
    Yeah, not like you to politicise a discussion
    Seriously?
    Holyjo list quotes but they’re not ‘political’. Like number 4.
    I mention one quote, and liken it to a humanitarian crisis and it is ‘political’?

  • bobmunro
    bobmunro Posts: 20,908
    The world needs good men more than ever, and he was the best of us - a good man in every sense of that simple but overused word.

    RIP
  • MuttleyCAFC
    MuttleyCAFC Posts: 47,778
    We are certainly all the poorer for losing a man like him. 
  • danny777
    danny777 Posts: 222
    carly burn said:
    Redmidland said:
    He fought many battles on different issues, but by far the greatest was helping to bring down apartheid.
    RIP Sir.
     Very true. And a close second was once being Paul Mortimer's kit sponsor.

    RIP
    What year was he Mort's kit sponsor?

    And could some programme/yearbook collector post a photo of the entry?
    Thanks

  • RickAddick
    RickAddick Posts: 1,199
    paulbaconsarnie said:
    RIP
    it wasn’t until earlier this year that I found out his first parish was in lewisham and he used to live in grove park. 
    I wonder where he got his newspaper.
    But was he Palace or Millwall?

    A good and wise man indeed.
    Africa needs more in his image. 
    Rest in Peace.
  • PrincessFiona
    PrincessFiona Posts: 5,491
    seth plum said:
    PrincessFiona said:
    seth plum said:
    PrincessFiona said:
    seth plum said:
    He also said ‘There comes a point where we have to stop pulling people out of the river. We need to go upstream and find out why people are falling in’.
    Seems a perfect statement in relation to the poor desperate folk making dangerous channel crossings on flimsy rubber dinghys.
    We know why they are coming. What we need to be able to do is more easily distinguish between the varying reasons for it - but for a different thread
    Yes a different thread. To my thinking it was water that created the link, a river and the sea.
    Yeah, not like you to politicise a discussion
    Seriously?
    Holyjo list quotes but they’re not ‘political’. Like number 4.
    I mention one quote, and liken it to a humanitarian crisis and it is ‘political’?

    Yes
  • alburyaddick
    alburyaddick Posts: 574
    His son Trevor Tutu was in the year above me at Colfes
  • Bournemouth Addick
    Bournemouth Addick Posts: 16,288
    I'm in no way religious, just the opposite, but whatever his motivations he was definitely a force for good and worthy of the many plaudits he has received.

    RIP. 
  • ShootersHillGuru
    ShootersHillGuru Posts: 50,658
    A force for good. RIP
  • AddicksAddict
    AddicksAddict Posts: 15,842
    PrincessFiona said:
    seth plum said:
    PrincessFiona said:
    seth plum said:
    PrincessFiona said:
    seth plum said:
    He also said ‘There comes a point where we have to stop pulling people out of the river. We need to go upstream and find out why people are falling in’.
    Seems a perfect statement in relation to the poor desperate folk making dangerous channel crossings on flimsy rubber dinghys.
    We know why they are coming. What we need to be able to do is more easily distinguish between the varying reasons for it - but for a different thread
    Yes a different thread. To my thinking it was water that created the link, a river and the sea.
    Yeah, not like you to politicise a discussion
    Seriously?
    Holyjo list quotes but they’re not ‘political’. Like number 4.
    I mention one quote, and liken it to a humanitarian crisis and it is ‘political’?

    Yes
    We're celebrating the life and mourning the loss of one of the great men of our lifetimes.  Park it elsewhere, eh?

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