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  • clive
    clive Posts: 19,449
    edited May 2024
    On bbc London news last night, some parties were worried because the turn out in the outer suburbs were high think from memory they said 43% (Bexley was highlighted) compared to only 31% in the inner suburbs, this was put down to a direct result of ULEZ, be interesting to see what effect these different turn outs have, 

    Voter turnout was 40.5% in the London mayoral election, down 1.5% overall from 2021, London Elects has announced.

    The turnout for each constituency in the 2024 mayoral election was as follows:

    • Barnet and Camden - 39.59%
    • Bexley and Bromley - 48.38%
    • Brent and Harrow - 37.09%
    • City and East (Barking and Dagenham, City of London, Newham, Tower Hamlets) - 31.17%
    • Croydon and Sutton - 42.27%
    • Ealing and Hillingdon - 42.98%
    • Enfield and Haringey - 41.38%
    • Greenwich and Lewisham - 40.33%
    • Havering and Redbridge - 42.94%
    • Lambeth and Southwark - 39.13%
    • Merton and Wandsworth - 45.99%
    • North East (Hackney, Islington, Waltham Forest) - 39.57%
    • South West (Hounslow, Kingston Upon Thames, Richmond Upon Thames) - 45.26%
    • West Central (Hammersmith and Fulham, Kensington and Chelsea, Westminster) - 34.98%

    Previously, voter turnout was 42% in 2021, 46% in 2016, 38% in 2012, 45% in 2008, 37% in 2004 and 34% in 2000.

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-london-68953047

  • Friend Or Defoe
    Friend Or Defoe Posts: 18,079
    PopIcon said:
    On bbc London news last night, some parties were worried because the turn out in the outer suburbs were high think from memory they said 43% (Bexley was highlighted) compared to only 31% in the inner suburbs, this was put down to a direct result of ULEZ, be interesting to see what effect these different turn outs have, 
    Those turnout figures are shocking. A lot of people don't vote because they think politicians are bull shitters. There is a big hole in politics at moment.
    It's been that way for as long as i can remember.
  • Rothko
    Rothko Posts: 18,801
    Genuinely can’t believe people brought the bullshit yesterday 
  • Friend Or Defoe
    Friend Or Defoe Posts: 18,079
    Rothko said:
    Genuinely can’t believe people brought the bullshit yesterday 
    Really, remember how people acted during the pandemic?

    We could have a flat earther as mayor who answers every question with 'I don't know' because people are worried about a pay for a mile conspiracy.
  • Rothko
    Rothko Posts: 18,801
    Rothko said:
    Genuinely can’t believe people brought the bullshit yesterday 
    Really, remember how people acted during the pandemic?

    We could have a flat earther as mayor who answers every question with 'I don't know' because people are worried about a pay for a mile conspiracy.
    The stuff yesterday about Hall winning, was the same shit as last time, the Tories were claiming that Bailey had won on the Friday, and Khan won by a bigger margin then he did against Goldsmith.


  • ME14addick
    ME14addick Posts: 9,761
    It's sad that cleaner air and Climate Change have become so political. They both affect everyone. so we should  all be working together towards cleaner air and reducing emissions.
  • AFKABartram
    AFKABartram Posts: 57,824
    Not read this thread before but can see the last few pages a number of people have turned it into to a full on politics thread. Please respect we no longer want that here.

    As for ULEZ, both cameras about 200 metres from my house were cut down last night. Again. 
  • Rothko
    Rothko Posts: 18,801
    Not read this thread before but can see the last few pages a number of people have turned it into to a full on politics thread. Please respect we no longer want that here.

    As for ULEZ, both cameras about 200 metres from my house were cut down last night. Again. 
    It’s a key policy and debate in a mayoral election, you can’t divorce the two 
  • Friend Or Defoe
    Friend Or Defoe Posts: 18,079
    Dansk_Red said:
    Labour lost 2 seats in local council by-elections to the Tories  in Sutton and Wandsworth, which the one Labour candidate blamed ULEZ for the lose.
    Talking of Wandsworth.

    In Merton and Wandsworth, there was a 5.1 per cent Conservative to Labour swing, with Mr Khan achieving 48.3 per cent of the vote and his Tory rival Susan Hall getting 28.6 per cent.
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  • Croydon
    Croydon Posts: 12,727
    edited May 2024
    PopIcon said:
    On bbc London news last night, some parties were worried because the turn out in the outer suburbs were high think from memory they said 43% (Bexley was highlighted) compared to only 31% in the inner suburbs, this was put down to a direct result of ULEZ, be interesting to see what effect these different turn outs have, 
    Those turnout figures are shocking. A lot of people don't vote because they think politicians are bull shitters. There is a big hole in politics at moment.
    Should be a fine for not voting imo. Maybe not council elections, but certainly things like the GE
  • cafc999
    cafc999 Posts: 4,967
    Croydon said:
    PopIcon said:
    On bbc London news last night, some parties were worried because the turn out in the outer suburbs were high think from memory they said 43% (Bexley was highlighted) compared to only 31% in the inner suburbs, this was put down to a direct result of ULEZ, be interesting to see what effect these different turn outs have, 
    Those turnout figures are shocking. A lot of people don't vote because they think politicians are bull shitters. There is a big hole in politics at moment.
    Should be a fine for not voting imo. Maybe not council elections, but certainly things like the GE
    Agreed, providing they put a box with abstain on the slip. 
  • Friend Or Defoe
    Friend Or Defoe Posts: 18,079
    Croydon said:
    PopIcon said:
    On bbc London news last night, some parties were worried because the turn out in the outer suburbs were high think from memory they said 43% (Bexley was highlighted) compared to only 31% in the inner suburbs, this was put down to a direct result of ULEZ, be interesting to see what effect these different turn outs have, 
    Those turnout figures are shocking. A lot of people don't vote because they think politicians are bull shitters. There is a big hole in politics at moment.
    Should be a fine for not voting imo. Maybe not council elections, but certainly things like the GE
    You'll get people voting for parties they don't believe in. I like the current system.
  • cafc999
    cafc999 Posts: 4,967
    Khan wins, not a fan myself but fare do's. 
  • Friend Or Defoe
    Friend Or Defoe Posts: 18,079
    A swing to Labour as well. People who live here either don't care about ULEZ or they were major concerns with the Tory candicrank.
  • seth plum
    seth plum Posts: 53,448
    A thread about ULEZ seems inevitably political on Charlton Life, and has had a political slant almost since inception.

    If we don’t want any threads that bleed into unwanted territory, could we also get rid of the loads of misogynistic content that appears all over Charlton life?

    The recent Katie Price content is a good example, as well as the ‘new bird on countdown’ stuff.
     
  • seth plum
    seth plum Posts: 53,448
    So well done Sadiq Khan, a win is a win, and to me it means the majority of voters in the London mayoral election care more about the health of our London children than the cost of having a motor vehicle.
  • Rothko
    Rothko Posts: 18,801
    So this thread will live on, with the stories of bitter lunatics in Bexley and Bromley cutting down lampposts 
  • MrOneLung
    MrOneLung Posts: 26,845
    seth plum said:
    So well done Sadiq Khan, a win is a win, and to me it means the majority of voters in the London mayoral election care more about the health of our London children than the cost of having a motor vehicle.
    Only if you believe it was a single issue election. 

    More likely the lack of a credible opponent is why Khan won. 
  • Smithy
    Smithy Posts: 1,022
    A stronger candidate would have made it a much closer race, but I think this election shows just how much of an echo chamber the internet is. For there to be zero swing in the Conservative’s favour in Bromley and Bexley when ULEZ seems to be all anyone cares about on twitter, is very surprising to me. 
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  • BigRedEvil
    BigRedEvil Posts: 11,069
    I voted Khan, very happy he's in and not Hall she was a shocking candidate 
  • Friend Or Defoe
    Friend Or Defoe Posts: 18,079
    Smithy said:
    A stronger candidate would have made it a much closer race, but I think this election shows just how much of an echo chamber the internet is. For there to be zero swing in the Conservative’s favour in Bromley and Bexley when ULEZ seems to be all anyone cares about on twitter, is very surprising to me. 
    Loads of Tory bots on social media posting in local groups.
  • Croydon
    Croydon Posts: 12,727
    MrOneLung said:
    seth plum said:
    So well done Sadiq Khan, a win is a win, and to me it means the majority of voters in the London mayoral election care more about the health of our London children than the cost of having a motor vehicle.
    Only if you believe it was a single issue election. 

    More likely the lack of a credible opponent is why Khan won. 
    I don't think that's the case tbh. 
  • seth plum
    seth plum Posts: 53,448
    MrOneLung said:
    seth plum said:
    So well done Sadiq Khan, a win is a win, and to me it means the majority of voters in the London mayoral election care more about the health of our London children than the cost of having a motor vehicle.
    Only if you believe it was a single issue election. 

    More likely the lack of a credible opponent is why Khan won. 
    You quoted my post that mentioned two issues, clean air and the ULEZ, I certainly did not say I believe it was a single issue election.

    Maybe food for children was another issue that swayed voters. I still say well done Sadiq Khan, and lower down in the points table, very well done (and a little bit unlucky too) to Count Binface


  • Southendaddick
    Southendaddick Posts: 5,314
    As much chance of Tories winning in Barnsley than London 

    But you have to be a nut job to vote for Khan for so many reasons

    Tories clearly unelectable pretty much everywhere at the moment and I wouldn’t deny that, just a shame the other side is such a shitshow.

    There goes my political wisdom until October 👍
  • BR7_addick
    BR7_addick Posts: 10,210
    edited May 2024
    If we can learn anything from Khan living in the south east outskirts, it’s that you can never pay too much attention to your bubble, or your echo chamber or whatever you want to call it.  

    Where I live I genuinely don’t know anyone who did or would likely vote for him.  There’s a strong disdain for him over ULEZ amongst other more sinister reasons which you can work out yourselves.  London is a huge place, and a real melting pot of outlooks on the world, and that’s a good thing.  And in short, Londoners just don’t give two hoots about ULEZ.

    Whether you like him or not, he will go down as one of the most popular mayors in history.  
  • seth plum
    seth plum Posts: 53,448

  • Wheresmeticket
    Wheresmeticket Posts: 17,304
    Well done SK. The lunatic right will find lunatic reasons for his election rather than that more people wanted him in post than any of the alternatives.

    3 times.
  • seth plum
    seth plum Posts: 53,448

  • JamesSeed
    JamesSeed Posts: 17,380
    seth plum said:
    I hope a lot of people make the effort today.
    People made huge sacrifices for the right to vote, it isn’t yet 100 years that there has been proper gender equality of voting rights in the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland.
    I’d be happy if they brought in compulsory voting, like they did in Australia.