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  • Norwich now 8 points off safety after 10 games. 8 points behind Watford and 10 points behind Brentford, what a pathetic effort
  • Norwich now 8 points off safety after 10 games. 8 points behind Watford and 10 points behind Brentford, what a pathetic effort
    And scored 3 goals all season and one of those was a penalty
  • Should be a mercy rule, relegate them in December for someone that would be worth their place. 
  • Man City and Liverpool slip up, both teams getting a bit shopworn and tattered ?
  • edited October 2021
    Should be a mercy rule, relegate them in December for someone that would be worth their place. 
    Sounds horribly like something that the European Super League would think up.

    Norwich romped their way to the Championship title last season so are well worth their place in the Premier League.

    At least they're operating and ran in better fashion than the likes of Derby
  • Should be a mercy rule, relegate them in December for someone that would be worth their place. 
    Sounds horribly like something that the European Super League would think up.

    Norwich romped their way to the Championship title last season so are well worth their place in the Premier League.

    At least they're operating and ran in better fashion than the likes of Derby
    They're comfortable taking the profit for the season in the Premier League and don't want to bother competing in it.

    In their 5 away games they have scored 0 goals and conceded 15. Embarrassing and as a supporter what's the point going into a season knowing you're going to finish bottom and the owner can line his pockets with the profit?
  • edited October 2021
    Should be a mercy rule, relegate them in December for someone that would be worth their place. 
    Sounds horribly like something that the European Super League would think up.

    Norwich romped their way to the Championship title last season so are well worth their place in the Premier League.

    At least they're operating and ran in better fashion than the likes of Derby
    They're comfortable taking the profit for the season in the Premier League and don't want to bother competing in it.

    In their 5 away games they have scored 0 goals and conceded 15. Embarrassing and as a supporter what's the point going into a season knowing you're going to finish bottom and the owner can line his pockets with the profit?
    So what is the alternative?

    Continuously splash the cash in a lottery attempt to climb higher up the league each season when there is always the possibility that relegation will happen anyway... Am sure they'd love to compete in the Premier League, yet when others are happy to have endless amounts of debt, the other option doesnt look great does it

    When that happens, and it will because Norwich like most clubs dont have the sustainability to stay in the Premier League for eternity, would the fans accept if they ended up in a Derby-like scenario, or would they be protesting questioning why the club has been put in that position?

    Like I said at the start, the European Super League was an awful idea to everyone. Yet suddenly when one club is happy to put sustainability ahead of being able to compete, we look for ideas that don't reward on current merits!!
  • Should be a mercy rule, relegate them in December for someone that would be worth their place. 
    Sounds horribly like something that the European Super League would think up.

    Norwich romped their way to the Championship title last season so are well worth their place in the Premier League.

    At least they're operating and ran in better fashion than the likes of Derby
    They're comfortable taking the profit for the season in the Premier League and don't want to bother competing in it.

    In their 5 away games they have scored 0 goals and conceded 15. Embarrassing and as a supporter what's the point going into a season knowing you're going to finish bottom and the owner can line his pockets with the profit?
    So what is the alternative?

    Continuously splash the cash in a lottery attempt to climb higher up the league each season when there is always the possibility that relegation will happen anyway... Am sure they'd love to compete in the Premier League, yet when others are happy to have endless amounts of debt, the other option doesnt look great does it

    When that happens, and it will because Norwich like most clubs dont have the sustainability to stay in the Premier League for eternity, would the fans accept if they ended up in a Derby-like scenario, or would they be protesting questioning why the club has been put in that position?

    Like I said at the start, the European Super League was an awful idea to everyone. Yet suddenly when one club is happy to put sustainability ahead of being able to compete, we look for ideas that don't reward on current merits!!
    No one mentioned the European Super League other than you. 

    Norwich aren't being sustainable, they're pocketing the profit. As a supporter you'd prefer the squad to be budgetted relative to the money raised during that season no? Rather than sitting on a huge profit but having 2 points and sitting bottom by a mile. 
  • Should be a mercy rule, relegate them in December for someone that would be worth their place. 
    Sounds horribly like something that the European Super League would think up.

    Norwich romped their way to the Championship title last season so are well worth their place in the Premier League.

    At least they're operating and ran in better fashion than the likes of Derby
    They're comfortable taking the profit for the season in the Premier League and don't want to bother competing in it.

    In their 5 away games they have scored 0 goals and conceded 15. Embarrassing and as a supporter what's the point going into a season knowing you're going to finish bottom and the owner can line his pockets with the profit?
    So what is the alternative?

    Continuously splash the cash in a lottery attempt to climb higher up the league each season when there is always the possibility that relegation will happen anyway... Am sure they'd love to compete in the Premier League, yet when others are happy to have endless amounts of debt, the other option doesnt look great does it

    When that happens, and it will because Norwich like most clubs dont have the sustainability to stay in the Premier League for eternity, would the fans accept if they ended up in a Derby-like scenario, or would they be protesting questioning why the club has been put in that position?

    Like I said at the start, the European Super League was an awful idea to everyone. Yet suddenly when one club is happy to put sustainability ahead of being able to compete, we look for ideas that don't reward on current merits!!
    No one mentioned the European Super League other than you. 

    Norwich aren't being sustainable, they're pocketing the profit. As a supporter you'd prefer the squad to be budgetted relative to the money raised during that season no? Rather than sitting on a huge profit but having 2 points and sitting bottom by a mile. 
    Yes you're right... But your the one who mentioned the below idea... Yes?

    Should be a mercy rule, relegate them in December for someone that would be worth their place. 

    Surely the moment you talk about replacing clubs on their "worth" your in territory where the ESL was a good idea, because your replacing the whole concept of the current Football System where you get promoted / relegated solely on merit and nothing else.

    Guess we'll have to see in the long run how Norwich turn out whether their current system is the right one or not - With more and more clubs entering financial difficulties its laughable that fans continue to scream SPEND SPEND SPEND
  • Should be a mercy rule, relegate them in December for someone that would be worth their place. 
    Sounds horribly like something that the European Super League would think up.

    Norwich romped their way to the Championship title last season so are well worth their place in the Premier League.

    At least they're operating and ran in better fashion than the likes of Derby
    They're comfortable taking the profit for the season in the Premier League and don't want to bother competing in it.

    In their 5 away games they have scored 0 goals and conceded 15. Embarrassing and as a supporter what's the point going into a season knowing you're going to finish bottom and the owner can line his pockets with the profit?
    So what is the alternative?

    Continuously splash the cash in a lottery attempt to climb higher up the league each season when there is always the possibility that relegation will happen anyway... Am sure they'd love to compete in the Premier League, yet when others are happy to have endless amounts of debt, the other option doesnt look great does it

    When that happens, and it will because Norwich like most clubs dont have the sustainability to stay in the Premier League for eternity, would the fans accept if they ended up in a Derby-like scenario, or would they be protesting questioning why the club has been put in that position?

    Like I said at the start, the European Super League was an awful idea to everyone. Yet suddenly when one club is happy to put sustainability ahead of being able to compete, we look for ideas that don't reward on current merits!!
    No one mentioned the European Super League other than you. 

    Norwich aren't being sustainable, they're pocketing the profit. As a supporter you'd prefer the squad to be budgetted relative to the money raised during that season no? Rather than sitting on a huge profit but having 2 points and sitting bottom by a mile. 
    Yes you're right... But your the one who mentioned the below idea... Yes?

    Should be a mercy rule, relegate them in December for someone that would be worth their place. 

    Surely the moment you talk about replacing clubs on their "worth" your in territory where the ESL was a good idea, because your replacing the whole concept of the current Football System where you get promoted / relegated solely on merit and nothing else.

    Guess we'll have to see in the long run how Norwich turn out whether their current system is the right one or not - With more and more clubs entering financial difficulties its laughable that fans continue to scream SPEND SPEND SPEND
    Learn to take a joke sometime. I wasn't being serious with the suggestion. 

    Just seems a bit of a pointless season from them, yet again. 
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  • Should be a mercy rule, relegate them in December for someone that would be worth their place. 
    Sounds horribly like something that the European Super League would think up.

    Norwich romped their way to the Championship title last season so are well worth their place in the Premier League.

    At least they're operating and ran in better fashion than the likes of Derby
    They're comfortable taking the profit for the season in the Premier League and don't want to bother competing in it.

    In their 5 away games they have scored 0 goals and conceded 15. Embarrassing and as a supporter what's the point going into a season knowing you're going to finish bottom and the owner can line his pockets with the profit?
    So what is the alternative?

    Continuously splash the cash in a lottery attempt to climb higher up the league each season when there is always the possibility that relegation will happen anyway... Am sure they'd love to compete in the Premier League, yet when others are happy to have endless amounts of debt, the other option doesnt look great does it

    When that happens, and it will because Norwich like most clubs dont have the sustainability to stay in the Premier League for eternity, would the fans accept if they ended up in a Derby-like scenario, or would they be protesting questioning why the club has been put in that position?

    Like I said at the start, the European Super League was an awful idea to everyone. Yet suddenly when one club is happy to put sustainability ahead of being able to compete, we look for ideas that don't reward on current merits!!
    No one mentioned the European Super League other than you. 

    Norwich aren't being sustainable, they're pocketing the profit. As a supporter you'd prefer the squad to be budgetted relative to the money raised during that season no? Rather than sitting on a huge profit but having 2 points and sitting bottom by a mile. 
    Yes you're right... But your the one who mentioned the below idea... Yes?

    Should be a mercy rule, relegate them in December for someone that would be worth their place. 

    Surely the moment you talk about replacing clubs on their "worth" your in territory where the ESL was a good idea, because your replacing the whole concept of the current Football System where you get promoted / relegated solely on merit and nothing else.

    Guess we'll have to see in the long run how Norwich turn out whether their current system is the right one or not - With more and more clubs entering financial difficulties its laughable that fans continue to scream SPEND SPEND SPEND
    Learn to take a joke sometime. I wasn't being serious with the suggestion. 

    Just seems a bit of a pointless season from them, yet again. 
    the point is loadsa parachute cash to spread around .. as was mentioned a few weeks back, there are four prime yoyo clubs from Champ to Prem than up and down, WBA, Fulham, Norwich, Watford .. it's nowadays VERY hard for a club coming into the Prem and the 'yoyo pattern' is starting to also be seen throughout the EFL
  • Should be a mercy rule, relegate them in December for someone that would be worth their place. 
    Sounds horribly like something that the European Super League would think up.

    Norwich romped their way to the Championship title last season so are well worth their place in the Premier League.

    At least they're operating and ran in better fashion than the likes of Derby
    They're comfortable taking the profit for the season in the Premier League and don't want to bother competing in it.

    In their 5 away games they have scored 0 goals and conceded 15. Embarrassing and as a supporter what's the point going into a season knowing you're going to finish bottom and the owner can line his pockets with the profit?
    So what is the alternative?

    Continuously splash the cash in a lottery attempt to climb higher up the league each season when there is always the possibility that relegation will happen anyway... Am sure they'd love to compete in the Premier League, yet when others are happy to have endless amounts of debt, the other option doesnt look great does it

    When that happens, and it will because Norwich like most clubs dont have the sustainability to stay in the Premier League for eternity, would the fans accept if they ended up in a Derby-like scenario, or would they be protesting questioning why the club has been put in that position?

    Like I said at the start, the European Super League was an awful idea to everyone. Yet suddenly when one club is happy to put sustainability ahead of being able to compete, we look for ideas that don't reward on current merits!!
    How much have Brentford spent? Brighton? Burnley and Palace don't really seem to spend a lot and they've survived for years.
  • edited October 2021
    Should be a mercy rule, relegate them in December for someone that would be worth their place. 
    Sounds horribly like something that the European Super League would think up.

    Norwich romped their way to the Championship title last season so are well worth their place in the Premier League.

    At least they're operating and ran in better fashion than the likes of Derby
    They're comfortable taking the profit for the season in the Premier League and don't want to bother competing in it.

    In their 5 away games they have scored 0 goals and conceded 15. Embarrassing and as a supporter what's the point going into a season knowing you're going to finish bottom and the owner can line his pockets with the profit?
    So what is the alternative?

    Continuously splash the cash in a lottery attempt to climb higher up the league each season when there is always the possibility that relegation will happen anyway... Am sure they'd love to compete in the Premier League, yet when others are happy to have endless amounts of debt, the other option doesnt look great does it

    When that happens, and it will because Norwich like most clubs dont have the sustainability to stay in the Premier League for eternity, would the fans accept if they ended up in a Derby-like scenario, or would they be protesting questioning why the club has been put in that position?

    Like I said at the start, the European Super League was an awful idea to everyone. Yet suddenly when one club is happy to put sustainability ahead of being able to compete, we look for ideas that don't reward on current merits!!
    No one mentioned the European Super League other than you. 

    Norwich aren't being sustainable, they're pocketing the profit. As a supporter you'd prefer the squad to be budgetted relative to the money raised during that season no? Rather than sitting on a huge profit but having 2 points and sitting bottom by a mile. 
    Yes you're right... But your the one who mentioned the below idea... Yes?

    Should be a mercy rule, relegate them in December for someone that would be worth their place. 

    Surely the moment you talk about replacing clubs on their "worth" your in territory where the ESL was a good idea, because your replacing the whole concept of the current Football System where you get promoted / relegated solely on merit and nothing else.

    Guess we'll have to see in the long run how Norwich turn out whether their current system is the right one or not - With more and more clubs entering financial difficulties its laughable that fans continue to scream SPEND SPEND SPEND
    Learn to take a joke sometime. I wasn't being serious with the suggestion. 

    Just seems a bit of a pointless season from them, yet again. 
    the point is loadsa parachute cash to spread around .. as was mentioned a few weeks back, there are four prime yoyo clubs from Champ to Prem than up and down, WBA, Fulham, Norwich, Watford .. it's nowadays VERY hard for a club coming into the Prem and the 'yoyo pattern' is starting to also be seen throughout the EFL
    But for instance this season you can tell that although Watford are a poor team, they want to try and win games. 

    Norwich it doesn't seem to be the case. Farke did exactly the same 2 years ago and is happy doing exactly the same again. 

    In 2019/2020 Norwich finished 20th and 13 points behind 19th place. With the same manager that has them 8 points off 17th in only 10 games. 
  • Should be a mercy rule, relegate them in December for someone that would be worth their place. 
    Sounds horribly like something that the European Super League would think up.

    Norwich romped their way to the Championship title last season so are well worth their place in the Premier League.

    At least they're operating and ran in better fashion than the likes of Derby
    They're comfortable taking the profit for the season in the Premier League and don't want to bother competing in it.

    In their 5 away games they have scored 0 goals and conceded 15. Embarrassing and as a supporter what's the point going into a season knowing you're going to finish bottom and the owner can line his pockets with the profit?
    So what is the alternative?

    Continuously splash the cash in a lottery attempt to climb higher up the league each season when there is always the possibility that relegation will happen anyway... Am sure they'd love to compete in the Premier League, yet when others are happy to have endless amounts of debt, the other option doesnt look great does it

    When that happens, and it will because Norwich like most clubs dont have the sustainability to stay in the Premier League for eternity, would the fans accept if they ended up in a Derby-like scenario, or would they be protesting questioning why the club has been put in that position?

    Like I said at the start, the European Super League was an awful idea to everyone. Yet suddenly when one club is happy to put sustainability ahead of being able to compete, we look for ideas that don't reward on current merits!!
    How much have Brentford spent? Brighton? Burnley and Palace don't really seem to spend a lot and they've survived for years.
    Man Utd, Liverpool, Arsenal, Chelsea: Every PL club's net spend over last five seasons | GiveMeSport
  • Should be a mercy rule, relegate them in December for someone that would be worth their place. 
    Sounds horribly like something that the European Super League would think up.

    Norwich romped their way to the Championship title last season so are well worth their place in the Premier League.

    At least they're operating and ran in better fashion than the likes of Derby
    They're comfortable taking the profit for the season in the Premier League and don't want to bother competing in it.

    In their 5 away games they have scored 0 goals and conceded 15. Embarrassing and as a supporter what's the point going into a season knowing you're going to finish bottom and the owner can line his pockets with the profit?
    Next season, why would a Norwich supporter want promotion, knowing they'd be whipping boys again? And once you start thinking like that, it kills off the dreams of glory which are what makes us support "ordinary" clubs

    2 years ago, I could understand them being very financially cautious - that's what WE did after promotion in 98 - as it paid off their previous debts, but surely 2 years later you'd want to make more of an effort to STAY in the Premier League, and try and establish yourselves
  • Norwich, through the sale of Godfrey and Buendia, have also made a net profit of £6m on transfers in the last two seasons 
  • Regardless how we all feel about Norwich 

    Cant say Aston Villa or West Ham arent trying, great game
  • Should be a mercy rule, relegate them in December for someone that would be worth their place. 
    Sounds horribly like something that the European Super League would think up.

    Norwich romped their way to the Championship title last season so are well worth their place in the Premier League.

    At least they're operating and ran in better fashion than the likes of Derby
    They're comfortable taking the profit for the season in the Premier League and don't want to bother competing in it.

    In their 5 away games they have scored 0 goals and conceded 15. Embarrassing and as a supporter what's the point going into a season knowing you're going to finish bottom and the owner can line his pockets with the profit?
    So what is the alternative?

    Continuously splash the cash in a lottery attempt to climb higher up the league each season when there is always the possibility that relegation will happen anyway... Am sure they'd love to compete in the Premier League, yet when others are happy to have endless amounts of debt, the other option doesnt look great does it

    When that happens, and it will because Norwich like most clubs dont have the sustainability to stay in the Premier League for eternity, would the fans accept if they ended up in a Derby-like scenario, or would they be protesting questioning why the club has been put in that position?

    Like I said at the start, the European Super League was an awful idea to everyone. Yet suddenly when one club is happy to put sustainability ahead of being able to compete, we look for ideas that don't reward on current merits!!
    How much have Brentford spent? Brighton? Burnley and Palace don't really seem to spend a lot and they've survived for years.
    Man Utd, Liverpool, Arsenal, Chelsea: Every PL club's net spend over last five seasons | GiveMeSport
    That's incredible work from Klopp. 
  • Should be a mercy rule, relegate them in December for someone that would be worth their place. 
    Sounds horribly like something that the European Super League would think up.

    Norwich romped their way to the Championship title last season so are well worth their place in the Premier League.

    At least they're operating and ran in better fashion than the likes of Derby
    They're comfortable taking the profit for the season in the Premier League and don't want to bother competing in it.

    In their 5 away games they have scored 0 goals and conceded 15. Embarrassing and as a supporter what's the point going into a season knowing you're going to finish bottom and the owner can line his pockets with the profit?
    So what is the alternative?

    Continuously splash the cash in a lottery attempt to climb higher up the league each season when there is always the possibility that relegation will happen anyway... Am sure they'd love to compete in the Premier League, yet when others are happy to have endless amounts of debt, the other option doesnt look great does it

    When that happens, and it will because Norwich like most clubs dont have the sustainability to stay in the Premier League for eternity, would the fans accept if they ended up in a Derby-like scenario, or would they be protesting questioning why the club has been put in that position?

    Like I said at the start, the European Super League was an awful idea to everyone. Yet suddenly when one club is happy to put sustainability ahead of being able to compete, we look for ideas that don't reward on current merits!!
    How much have Brentford spent? Brighton? Burnley and Palace don't really seem to spend a lot and they've survived for years.
    Man Utd, Liverpool, Arsenal, Chelsea: Every PL club's net spend over last five seasons | GiveMeSport
    That's incredible work from Klopp. 
    as I alluded to earlier, the problem will come when 4 or 5 of his players will reach 30+ together, will slow down, become more injury prone, and will need replacing .. I know Man U have a couple of pensioners up front, but that is an exception .. Alex Ferguson allowed his team to stay together too long and this handed Moyes a a poisoned chalice at Man U .. 
  • Should be a mercy rule, relegate them in December for someone that would be worth their place. 
    Sounds horribly like something that the European Super League would think up.

    Norwich romped their way to the Championship title last season so are well worth their place in the Premier League.

    At least they're operating and ran in better fashion than the likes of Derby
    They're comfortable taking the profit for the season in the Premier League and don't want to bother competing in it.

    In their 5 away games they have scored 0 goals and conceded 15. Embarrassing and as a supporter what's the point going into a season knowing you're going to finish bottom and the owner can line his pockets with the profit?
    So what is the alternative?

    Continuously splash the cash in a lottery attempt to climb higher up the league each season when there is always the possibility that relegation will happen anyway... Am sure they'd love to compete in the Premier League, yet when others are happy to have endless amounts of debt, the other option doesnt look great does it

    When that happens, and it will because Norwich like most clubs dont have the sustainability to stay in the Premier League for eternity, would the fans accept if they ended up in a Derby-like scenario, or would they be protesting questioning why the club has been put in that position?

    Like I said at the start, the European Super League was an awful idea to everyone. Yet suddenly when one club is happy to put sustainability ahead of being able to compete, we look for ideas that don't reward on current merits!!
    How much have Brentford spent? Brighton? Burnley and Palace don't really seem to spend a lot and they've survived for years.
    Man Utd, Liverpool, Arsenal, Chelsea: Every PL club's net spend over last five seasons | GiveMeSport
    That's incredible work from Klopp. 
    as I alluded to earlier, the problem will come when 4 or 5 of his players will reach 30+ together, will slow down, become more injury prone, and will need replacing .. I know Man U have a couple of pensioners up front, but that is an exception .. Alex Ferguson allowed his team to stay together too long and this handed Moyes a a poisoned chalice at Man U .. 
    Yeah fair point, and by then Klopp will probably have left so he won't care and Liverpool will have to go through a 2 year rebuilding phase whilst the fans and owners expect the same results Klopp was producing. 
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  • Should be a mercy rule, relegate them in December for someone that would be worth their place. 
    Sounds horribly like something that the European Super League would think up.

    Norwich romped their way to the Championship title last season so are well worth their place in the Premier League.

    At least they're operating and ran in better fashion than the likes of Derby
    They're comfortable taking the profit for the season in the Premier League and don't want to bother competing in it.

    In their 5 away games they have scored 0 goals and conceded 15. Embarrassing and as a supporter what's the point going into a season knowing you're going to finish bottom and the owner can line his pockets with the profit?
    So what is the alternative?

    Continuously splash the cash in a lottery attempt to climb higher up the league each season when there is always the possibility that relegation will happen anyway... Am sure they'd love to compete in the Premier League, yet when others are happy to have endless amounts of debt, the other option doesnt look great does it

    When that happens, and it will because Norwich like most clubs dont have the sustainability to stay in the Premier League for eternity, would the fans accept if they ended up in a Derby-like scenario, or would they be protesting questioning why the club has been put in that position?

    Like I said at the start, the European Super League was an awful idea to everyone. Yet suddenly when one club is happy to put sustainability ahead of being able to compete, we look for ideas that don't reward on current merits!!
    How much have Brentford spent? Brighton? Burnley and Palace don't really seem to spend a lot and they've survived for years.
    Man Utd, Liverpool, Arsenal, Chelsea: Every PL club's net spend over last five seasons | GiveMeSport
    That's incredible work from Klopp. 
    as I alluded to earlier, the problem will come when 4 or 5 of his players will reach 30+ together, will slow down, become more injury prone, and will need replacing .. I know Man U have a couple of pensioners up front, but that is an exception .. Alex Ferguson allowed his team to stay together too long and this handed Moyes a a poisoned chalice at Man U .. 
    Yeah fair point, and by then Klopp will probably have left so he won't care and Liverpool will have to go through a 2 year rebuilding phase whilst the fans and owners expect the same results Klopp was producing. 
    this will always be a problem of course, however I reckon Ol Jurgen loves Liverpool and will be there for a good few years yet
  • Harsh red? 
  • Harsh red? 
    Certainly feels a very inconsistent red.
  • Surely that should have been a red for Hause for the elbow?
  • Surely the Norwich saga is against the spirit of competition. If you’re not actively trying to compete and the owner is just hoarding the money, that’s worse than an owner splashing the cash in the hope of promotion and withstanding in he PL. At least the second option provides competition. Teams know they can play at 20% and most likely beat Norwich. 

    Arteta has done a great job turning things around since the start but then in fairness there were quite a few new faces in the first 11 and didn’t they have Liverpool, City and Chelsea in their first 5 games or something. 

    We know it’ll never happen but the FA and PL need to come out and explain exactly why 3 almost identical situations this weekend, one of them had a different outcome. Identical situations shouldn’t have any chance for a refs point of view, it should be black and white. 
  • Surely the Norwich saga is against the spirit of competition. If you’re not actively trying to compete and the owner is just hoarding the money, that’s worse than an owner splashing the cash in the hope of promotion and withstanding in he PL. At least the second option provides competition. Teams know they can play at 20% and most likely beat Norwich. 

    Arteta has done a great job turning things around since the start but then in fairness there were quite a few new faces in the first 11 and didn’t they have Liverpool, City and Chelsea in their first 5 games or something. 

    We know it’ll never happen but the FA and PL need to come out and explain exactly why 3 almost identical situations this weekend, one of them had a different outcome. Identical situations shouldn’t have any chance for a refs point of view, it should be black and white.
    The difficulty with VAR is everyone craves consistency however its never going to happen because decisions are subjective. I've seen plenty suggest the Leicester incident should have been a red card but then plenty agreed with the yellow which suggests it wasn't a 'clear and obvious' error and therefore VAR was right not to intervene.

    On the one decision VAR can make which isn't subjective (offside) you then have people complaining it should be more open to interpretation. 

    I must say as well there is nothing more cringe worthy than pundits slating referee's and then quoting completely incorrect interpretations of the law. I've heard at least 3 different pundits this weekend  mention the fact players should have been sent off because they were 'last man' which has never been a law. Surely if you are paid handsomely enough to talk football for a living you should at least have a basic understanding of the laws of the game.
  • The refereeing in this country is some of the worst refereeing in any sport though. 

    They're so much worse than their European counterparts. 
  • I reckon Dean Smith will be under pressure soon if they don't start winning again.

    Ok they lost Grealish but overall their squad is stronger as they bought 3-4 players with the money and were tipped to push top 10. They're level on points with Watford.
  • Can’t knock what Moyes has done at West Ham. 
    Yeah he's doing an amazing job, i thought they might struggle a bit what with balancing European football as well, but they're top of their Europa group, into the league cup quarters (beating United and City) and are top 4 in the league. 
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