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Mason Burstow - on loan to Bolton from Hull (p53)

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  • well the highly reliable Wikipedia states he's a Chelsea player but is on loan with us. 
  • Smithy
    Smithy Posts: 1,022
    Is this going to be another Hemed situation? (minus getting the terrible striker on loan)
  • LargeAddick
    LargeAddick Posts: 32,561
    reckon it's an issue with the loan back as Fulham/Liverpool were struggling with that yesterday and in the end it scuppered the deal. Something about the EFL not having 'deal sheets' so maybe we didn't get it done by the deadline and are arguing the case with the EFL?
  • Chunes
    Chunes Posts: 17,349
    Undisclosed... Are they really not going to tell us how much we got for him
  • Charlton Owner Thomas Sandgaard said: “We’ve had a lot of interest in Mason but we only were going to let him go if it was an excellent deal for the club. Chelsea have matched our valuation and, as part of the deal, he will come back to us on loan which was important for us.”
  • Chunes said:
    Undisclosed... Are they really not going to tell us how much we got for him
    Why would they?

    For a start, telling everyone let's other clubs know we may have £x to spend on that player of theirs we're after.
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  • Chunes
    Chunes Posts: 17,349
    edited February 2022
    Chunes said:
    Undisclosed... Are they really not going to tell us how much we got for him
    Why would they?

    For a start, telling everyone let's other clubs know we may have £x to spend on that player of theirs we're after.
    Yes that is one positive. The negative is that we don't know if it was good business or bad, and usually the fee received is some comfort to fans when a player leaves, especially a young prospect.
  • PWADDICK
    PWADDICK Posts: 526
    Nothing against Mason but now he has gone I simply wouldn’t play him ahead of Washington, Aneke, Leko, Stockley and even Kanu
  • RedArmySE7
    RedArmySE7 Posts: 5,407
    Not sure I'm that pleased we have him back on loan for the rest of the season. I don't really see the point. 

    But I wish him well. Can't blame him for taking the opportunity, I just hope we haven't been ripped off. 
  • thenewbie
    thenewbie Posts: 11,001
    PWADDICK said:
    Nothing against Mason but now he has gone I simply wouldn’t play him ahead of Washington, Aneke, Leko, Stockley and even Kanu
    Then you are cutting off your nose to spite your face. He's got pace, a good instinct for where to be, and probably the most accurate/reliable finisher in the box at the club. He's definitely got areas that will improve but freezing him out completely is frankly pure stupid pride and totally unnecessary. 
  • Pelling1993
    Pelling1993 Posts: 6,673
    Not sure I'm that pleased we have him back on loan for the rest of the season. I don't really see the point. 

    But I wish him well. Can't blame him for taking the opportunity, I just hope we haven't been ripped off. 
    Exactly this. Don't blame him at all for leaving but currently he's not better than Washington or Aneke. So it's just free training for Chelsea
  • As he is now sold what is the point of spending our time developing him for Chelsea ? Regarding the fee , if we knew what it was it might soften the blow. As it is I don't think the clubs idea of a substantial fee would match mine. What is the point of Valley gold ? Young strikers with good potential are as rare as hens teeth , how many have we produced in recent years ?
  • RedChaser
    RedChaser Posts: 19,885
    thenewbie said:
    PWADDICK said:
    Nothing against Mason but now he has gone I simply wouldn’t play him ahead of Washington, Aneke, Leko, Stockley and even Kanu
    Then you are cutting off your nose to spite your face. He's got pace, a good instinct for where to be, and probably the most accurate/reliable finisher in the box at the club. He's definitely got areas that will improve but freezing him out completely is frankly pure stupid pride and totally unnecessary. 
    Agreed and it’s not a good look either 😉
  • Pelling1993
    Pelling1993 Posts: 6,673
    thenewbie said:
    PWADDICK said:
    Nothing against Mason but now he has gone I simply wouldn’t play him ahead of Washington, Aneke, Leko, Stockley and even Kanu
    Then you are cutting off your nose to spite your face. He's got pace, a good instinct for where to be, and probably the most accurate/reliable finisher in the box at the club. He's definitely got areas that will improve but freezing him out completely is frankly pure stupid pride and totally unnecessary. 
    Our season is over, what's the point in using him when he's not gonna be here when it matters?
  • SheedyCAFC
    SheedyCAFC Posts: 1,245
    The more I think about the Burstow situation the more I think it’s better we sold him now rather than at the end of the season, agents and players have too much power in the game and who’s to say he wouldn’t have done a ‘Lyle’ or a Dillon Phillips & just decided not to play and let his contract run out or force our hands to sell for cheaper than we were offered in January.
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  • PWADDICK said:
    Nothing against Mason but now he has gone I simply wouldn’t play him ahead of Washington, Aneke, Leko, Stockley and even Kanu
    You wouldn’t play loanee Burstow ahead of loanee Leko?

    You wouldn’t play Burstow ahead of yet to sign a contract Kanu?

    You wouldn’t play Burstow ahead of out of contract in the summer Washington?

    Even when we remain just 8 points from safety?

    I don’t get the logic personally.

    I do agree that once this season really has run its course and mathematically there is nothing to play for it would make some sense to prioritise those players who will be with us next season but there is currently nothing to tie Leko, Kanu or Washington to us any longer than Burstow.


  • Personally glad we have got him back on loan simply based on our lack of striking options. Stockley could well be done for the season and Aneke's fitness is always a concern (plus he'll be due a ban by the end of the next game for his inevitable 5th booking). That leaves Washington.

    I hate these last minute transfers as you have zero time to replace the player.
  • HardyAddick
    HardyAddick Posts: 1,637
    It would be nice to know the fee but if its in the public domain when we go to buy a player, the selling club will double the asking price. 
  • Personally glad we have got him back on loan simply based on our lack of striking options. Stockley could well be done for the season and Aneke's fitness is always a concern (plus he'll be due a ban by the end of the next game for his inevitable 5th booking). That leaves Washington.

    I hate these last minute transfers as you have zero time to replace the player.
    Swindon fans probably felt the same when we took Jaiyesimi last season
  • SE10Addick
    SE10Addick Posts: 2,963
    I don't blame the kid for going, but I honestly can't get excited about him anymore now.

    if Jacko thinks he can add value to the squad or team then so be it, but can't see myself cheering his name anymore.
  • PWADDICK said:
    Nothing against Mason but now he has gone I simply wouldn’t play him ahead of Washington, Aneke, Leko, Stockley and even Kanu
    Agree. We’ve got nothing to play for. Why should we?
  • Cafc43v3r
    Cafc43v3r Posts: 21,600
    Personally glad we have got him back on loan simply based on our lack of striking options. Stockley could well be done for the season and Aneke's fitness is always a concern (plus he'll be due a ban by the end of the next game for his inevitable 5th booking). That leaves Washington.

    I hate these last minute transfers as you have zero time to replace the player.
    Swindon fans probably felt the same when we took Jaiyesimi last season
    Yes but that wasn't the nasty agent adgitating for a move behind the clubs back was it.........
  • ButtleJR
    ButtleJR Posts: 1,586
    It would be nice to know the fee but if its in the public domain when we go to buy a player, the selling club will double the asking price. 
    This. Haven't had numbers mentioned to me but have just been told it's a very good fee. Hopefully enough to get us a nice few additions for next season. 
  • Cafc43v3r
    Cafc43v3r Posts: 21,600
    Not sure I'm that pleased we have him back on loan for the rest of the season. I don't really see the point. 

    But I wish him well. Can't blame him for taking the opportunity, I just hope we haven't been ripped off. 
    Exactly this. Don't blame him at all for leaving but currently he's not better than Washington or Aneke. So it's just free training for Chelsea
    We have 2 fit strikers we didn't even have one at all on the bench last night.  Not having him on loan would be worse even though its not ideal. 
  • thenewbie
    thenewbie Posts: 11,001
    edited February 2022
    thenewbie said:
    PWADDICK said:
    Nothing against Mason but now he has gone I simply wouldn’t play him ahead of Washington, Aneke, Leko, Stockley and even Kanu
    Then you are cutting off your nose to spite your face. He's got pace, a good instinct for where to be, and probably the most accurate/reliable finisher in the box at the club. He's definitely got areas that will improve but freezing him out completely is frankly pure stupid pride and totally unnecessary. 
    Our season is over, what's the point in using him when he's not gonna be here when it matters?
    Because it matters now. We're only eight points ahead of the relegation spots - a poor run of form could see us dragged right back down quickly. Stockley is injured, Aneke is picking up bookings left right and center (assuming he stays fit) and Washington is not exactly clinical. We might very well need any striker we can get. 

    If he can turn even a few draws into wins, or losses into draws, he's definitely worth using. He knows and likes his coach and team mates, he'll want to do well, and he's currently in decent form so why waste that out of spite?