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Mason Burstow - on loan to Bolton from Hull (p53)
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I don’t deny that sir, but you know…Rothko said:
Haha, but that’s just the way it isBR7_addick said:
“Babe, get the popcorn out”Rothko said:Just to that point of Premier League clubs sniffing around at our level, it’s because their usual hunting grounds in Europe have been taken away
https://theathletic.com/3099992/2022/01/30/theyre-looking-in-places-they-werent-before-how-brexit-has-affected-academy-recruitment/?source=user_shared_article
”Someone mentioned brexit outside the politics area of charlton life again hun?”0 -
The people have spoke give me my second promote.Addick_8 said:
This is one of the best ever posts I’ve seen on here. Brilliant 😂BR7_addick said:
Mother of god.ButtleJR said:This feels like the “Sandgaard is skint” brigade have just equalised last minute.1 -
It’s been said a few times but we can’t really say Burstow is an academy lad can we?1
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Don't understand why we don't wait until the end of the season?0
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https://www.standard.co.uk/sport/football/chelsea-transfer-news-premier-league-latest-mason-burstow-2022-b979863.html
No new information in the above. Chelsea made a bid, leading the race, no fee agreed yet.1 -
BR7_addick said:
“Babe, get the popcorn out”Rothko said:Just to that point of Premier League clubs sniffing around at our level, it’s because their usual hunting grounds in Europe have been taken away
https://theathletic.com/3099992/2022/01/30/theyre-looking-in-places-they-werent-before-how-brexit-has-affected-academy-recruitment/?source=user_shared_article
”Why? Someone mentioned brexit outside of the politics area of charlton life again hun?”
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https://www.kentonline.co.uk/maidstone/sport/one-for-the-future-222734/LargeAddick said:It’s been said a few times but we can’t really say Burstow is an academy lad can we?
Chelsea could have signed him 2 years ago0 -
Bizarre the fuss over such an inexperienced player..Callumcafc said:https://www.standard.co.uk/sport/football/chelsea-transfer-news-premier-league-latest-mason-burstow-2022-b979863.html
No new information in the above. Chelsea made a bid, leading the race, no fee agreed yet.1 -
Think a club will get a deal done tonight as if not they will pay more in the summer. Plus if Mason has spoken to Chelsea and been offered xyz and it doesn’t get done well I can’t see him being too happy, I wouldn’t be in his position.0
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I’ve not expressed myself too well there. Of course I believe in the value of academies. Nor do I have any problem with us selling some of these players relatively early on. But the boy has played 234 league minutes, and we are talking about him going to a club which already has 200 + players on loan. That cannot be described as a healthy competition.cafctom said:
For every Mason Burstow who might get sold early, there are the likes of Albie Morgan, Chris Solly, Anfernee Dijksteel, Scott Wagstaff and Jordan Cousins who do go on to play a significant amount of games for the club.PragueAddick said:
After he refused point blank to play any more. And let's remember he was way older and more experienced than Burstow at the time, and had already thrown his toys out of the pram a season earlier when there was talk of a bid.Exiled_Addick said:
We still sold him at the end of the transfer window.PragueAddick said:
Thats not correct in Parker’s case. Chelsea moved in early. The entire club fought tooth and nail for almost the entire window to keep Parker, and at least finally got Putin, sorry, Abramovic to pay full whack.Exiled_Addick said:
We’ve been doing this for decades. Way before Roland. Parker and Reid come immediately to mind, albeit Reid wasn’t a “prospect”.SELR_addicks said:
The deadline day sale of a top prospect does seem to ring a bell from Roland yes.Dazzler21 said:
We've not even had a fee suggested and people are comparing Sandgaard to Roland!SELR_addicks said:
Wasn't one of the positives that we would be able to hold onto prospects and demand a better fee?Callumcafc said:
No-one ever said this.SELR_addicks said:He's gone.
So much for not selling our rising stars.
Bet the fee will be risable.
This just calls back to the Roland days of shipping a youth player out the moment a bid comes in.
234 minutes of League One football. That's all we will have seen of Mason Burstow. What's the point of the academy system when this shit happens?
Well the Q&A with Thomas will make for interesting listening. I'll certainly have questions....
We shouldn’t fall into the trap of just dismissing the importance of the academy off the back of a player leaving to go to one of the biggest clubs in the world.12 -
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PragueAddick said:
After he refused point blank to play any more. And let's remember he was way older and more experienced than Burstow at the time, and had already thrown his toys out of the pram a season earlier when there was talk of a bid.Exiled_Addick said:
We still sold him at the end of the transfer window.PragueAddick said:
Thats not correct in Parker’s case. Chelsea moved in early. The entire club fought tooth and nail for almost the entire window to keep Parker, and at least finally got Putin, sorry, Abramovic to pay full whack.Exiled_Addick said:
We’ve been doing this for decades. Way before Roland. Parker and Reid come immediately to mind, albeit Reid wasn’t a “prospect”.SELR_addicks said:
The deadline day sale of a top prospect does seem to ring a bell from Roland yes.Dazzler21 said:
We've not even had a fee suggested and people are comparing Sandgaard to Roland!SELR_addicks said:
Wasn't one of the positives that we would be able to hold onto prospects and demand a better fee?Callumcafc said:
No-one ever said this.SELR_addicks said:He's gone.
So much for not selling our rising stars.
Bet the fee will be risable.
This just calls back to the Roland days of shipping a youth player out the moment a bid comes in.
234 minutes of League One football. That's all we will have seen of Mason Burstow. What's the point of the academy system when this shit happens?
Well the Q&A with Thomas will make for interesting listening. I'll certainly have questions....Yes, but we sold him. And at the end of the transfer window. In a era before Roland had even heard of us. Which was all I was pointing out - that we have sold good players late in transfer windows before during and after Roland.The inference was by doing this Sandgaard was following some kind of model first instigated by Roland. Which he isn't. And if it is some kind of model, then it wasn't new to the Roland era. We're a club that will nearly always end up selling our best players to a bigger fish. It's just a reality of the size of club we are.3 -
Barstool !supaclive said:
BURSTOW!LargeAddick said:
Because a deal may be close and the clubs can keep negotiating whilst Barstow agrees terms. If a deal is then agreed Barstow has already agreed his part.Chris_from_Sidcup said:So Jackson tells Sky that Burstow is talking to a club but Sandgaard tells Jim White they haven't met our valuation.
How's he allowed to talk to a club if we haven't accepted a bid?2 -
It’s not healthy at all, and I have a deep rooted disdain for the top Premier League clubs for it. But that’s unfortunately the way the food chain works in the industry at the moment.PragueAddick said:
I’ve not expressed myself too well there. Of course I believe in the value of academies. Nor do I have any problem with us selling some of these players relatively early on. But the boy has played 234 league minutes, and we are talking about him going to a club which already has 200 + players on loan. That cannot be described as a healthy competition.cafctom said:
For every Mason Burstow who might get sold early, there are the likes of Albie Morgan, Chris Solly, Anfernee Dijksteel, Scott Wagstaff and Jordan Cousins who do go on to play a significant amount of games for the club.PragueAddick said:
After he refused point blank to play any more. And let's remember he was way older and more experienced than Burstow at the time, and had already thrown his toys out of the pram a season earlier when there was talk of a bid.Exiled_Addick said:
We still sold him at the end of the transfer window.PragueAddick said:
Thats not correct in Parker’s case. Chelsea moved in early. The entire club fought tooth and nail for almost the entire window to keep Parker, and at least finally got Putin, sorry, Abramovic to pay full whack.Exiled_Addick said:
We’ve been doing this for decades. Way before Roland. Parker and Reid come immediately to mind, albeit Reid wasn’t a “prospect”.SELR_addicks said:
The deadline day sale of a top prospect does seem to ring a bell from Roland yes.Dazzler21 said:
We've not even had a fee suggested and people are comparing Sandgaard to Roland!SELR_addicks said:
Wasn't one of the positives that we would be able to hold onto prospects and demand a better fee?Callumcafc said:
No-one ever said this.SELR_addicks said:He's gone.
So much for not selling our rising stars.
Bet the fee will be risable.
This just calls back to the Roland days of shipping a youth player out the moment a bid comes in.
234 minutes of League One football. That's all we will have seen of Mason Burstow. What's the point of the academy system when this shit happens?
Well the Q&A with Thomas will make for interesting listening. I'll certainly have questions....
We shouldn’t fall into the trap of just dismissing the importance of the academy off the back of a player leaving to go to one of the biggest clubs in the world.
I’d love to see a much more level playing field, not just for the benefit of Charlton, but for the overall benefit and enjoyment of the game throughout the pyramid.
I don’t think the blame can be pointed at any individual linked to Charlton for that though. It would happen to any other club at our level.
As for the amount of minutes played by Burstow pre-sale…Well, I think this one is a bit of an exception. It’s not as if we sell young players this quickly each time they break through.6 -
Very confusing this evening0
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I believe that we preferred James Beadle going to Brighton because Chelsea just wanted to make a one off payment with no add ons. I suspect that this is the case with Burstow - better for us to take a million or so less now with still the potential for £10m plus more in the future.1
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I can see what’s happened here - they have offered too much and we are waiting for them to go lower.26
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Probably more accurate listening to a Twitter league one transfer rumour page with 1 follower than this lot.Callumcafc said:0 -
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Way I see it possibly being:ForeverAddickted said:Very confusing this evening
- They made a bid
- We didn't think it was high enough but thought they may come back with a higher (and acceptable) bid.
- As it's deadline day let him & his agent go and chat to them as there won't be any more time to do that if they do come back with a higher bid.
- They haven't. Yet.6 -
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I hate Jan 31 😔 deadline day5
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Oh well... Wrong thread lol!0
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I could understand this more if we were in financial difficulties. Come in late with a low offer and hope we jump at the cash. They should know that isn’t the case - if they really wanted him, you think they’d have made a move earlier.1
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Martin Sandgaard has been pictured squeezing into Burstows shorts according to Sky….7
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I doubt they know much about us other than we’re in League One and most clubs in this division are desperate for a scrap off their plates (see the Pizza Trophy agreement).SomervilleAddick said:I could understand this more if we were in financial difficulties. Come in late with a low offer and hope we jump at the cash. They should know that isn’t the case - if they really wanted him, you think they’d have made a move earlier.
It’s good news that Thomas isn’t just accepting the first bid that comes in. We have a valuation and we stand by it.1 -
Disgraceful behaviour. He could at least wait until Burstow had taken them off.Fumbluff said:Martin Sandgaard has been pictured squeezing into Burstows shorts according to Sky….15 -
ForeverAddickted said:Very confusing this eveningWe've allowed him to talk and potentially agree his personal terms while we work on agreeing a fee. I imagine it's pretty standard when you have less than 24 hours to get the deal done, you must have to run certain pieces of it parallel.Of course, just because Chelsea have had a bid turned down doesn't mean there isn't another Premier League club in for him who may have matched our asking price.3
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Best thing we can hear from Jackson in a minute is him saying that Burstow will be staying at the Valley till the summer
Then tomorrow slap a massive five year deal in front of him1 -
Think too many people play Football Manager in here. Mason can speak to any club with our permission, we don’t have to have accepted a bid for that to happen.
Given we are so close to the deadline, it makes sense to have it done this way. It gives Chelsea the maximum possible time to meet our valuation. But if they don’t, it sounds like he’s staying put.8 -
Maybe it'll persuade him to stay.ricky_otto said:
Disgraceful behaviour. He could at least wait until Burstow had taken them off.Fumbluff said:Martin Sandgaard has been pictured squeezing into Burstows shorts according to Sky….0
