Exactly. Unless Evans is going to personally pay off the EFL loan or compensate the club (for missing out on a fee this window) when Dempsey leaves on a free next summer, then its f&*k all to do with him.
Exactly. Also don't believe a word of what he says. Known liar.
Nigel Adkins must be aware of what he is getting himself in for. Arter has looked way past his best whenever he’s pulled on a Forest shirt and offloading him makes perfect sense. He will go down as one of the biggest flops in Forest history and it’s a massive disappointment that he’s not been able to showcase his talents to the club.
Nigel Adkins must be aware of what he is getting himself in for. Arter has looked way past his best whenever he’s pulled on a Forest shirt and offloading him makes perfect sense.
He will go down as one of the biggest flops in Forest history and it’s a massive disappointment that he’s not been able to showcase his talents to the club.
Sour grapes and jealousy or accurate assessment only time will tell.
Nigel Adkins must be aware of what he is getting himself in for. Arter has looked way past his best whenever he’s pulled on a Forest shirt and offloading him makes perfect sense.
He will go down as one of the biggest flops in Forest history and it’s a massive disappointment that he’s not been able to showcase his talents to the club.
To be fair , Forest is toxic at the moment and all the players are struggling. Arter hasn’t all of a sudden become a bad player . Forest was not a good fit , hopefully Charlton will be .
I’m hoping that this is a more a case of Arter being unhappy up north, away from his Mrs and kids, than the fact he is now a poor player. He could easily have stayed at Forest earning his money playing the odd under 23s game, so the move to us will hopefully reignite him. Having met him a few times in the past (friend of a friend) he doesn’t strike me as the sort of person to steal a wage on the bench.
He also said last season we had the biggest budget in the league, pulled some random figure which I remember Bowyer laughing at in his response. Evans is just an idiot.
Their fans will believe it though and I guess that’s his aim.
If he is out of contract next summer, you can sense Gillingham's panic, won't sell him this window and they will probably bite yer hand off for £100000 come January.
I see Forest fans also don’t rate Jenkinson. He’s had a disappointing career really, only one full season of first team football with 30+ starts and that was a loan at West Ham.
Played for the club he supported though as well as being capped by England.
He’s another who could be an option for us in the next year or so but like Arter I wonder if we’re better spending more on a longer term option, someone who can grow with the club.
I get why we’re after experience as Watson isn’t good enough to be starting every week and we seem to have accepted Dobson isn’t either.
Nigel Adkins must be aware of what he is getting himself in for. Arter has looked way past his best whenever he’s pulled on a Forest shirt and offloading him makes perfect sense.
He will go down as one of the biggest flops in Forest history and it’s a massive disappointment that he’s not been able to showcase his talents to the club.
To be fair , Forest is toxic at the moment and all the players are struggling. Arter hasn’t all of a sudden become a bad player . Forest was not a good fit , hopefully Charlton will be .
My nephew has just finished a sports science degree, at Nottingham university, he did an internship at NF and said it was an awful place to be.
I’m hoping that this is a more a case of Arter being unhappy up north, away from his Mrs and kids, than the fact he is now a poor player. He could easily have stayed at Forest earning his money playing the odd under 23s game, so the move to us will hopefully reignite him. Having met him a few times in the past (friend of a friend) he doesn’t strike me as the sort of person to steal a wage on the bench.
We’re all different and, as anyone who saw me play will testify, I was no professional footballer but I lived in Nottingham for 10 years with work - absolutely hated the place and always felt, in retrospect, it was a mistake to stick it out like I did. Culturally I found it very different from London, lots of false bravado etc. - did ok at the job but I don’t think I performed anywhere near as well as if I was settled, always had the feeling of ‘this isn’t where I want to be’. You’d hope £38k a week would have helped him knuckle down but maybe Arter simply just doesn’t like it up there.
Evans sounds like someone that has no concept of needing money to survive. Gills are skint at present and desperate for some cash flow. If he’s correct that our bid was £100k then perhaps that was low and cheeky but maintaining that Dempsey isn’t going anywhere is cloud cuckoo land stuff. If they can’t shift Tucker and Dempsey they will be financially struggling and probably have two quite unhappy players to boot and get stitched up when they do leave anyway. Looks like we haven't followed up any bid in any case. Fuck em.
Were we to sign Dempsey I wouldn’t care if we’d been insulting to his current club, unsettled the player through mind games. It all seems to be the way transfers are managed and achieved these days and our club is just as likely to be on the receiving end from others.
Dempsey appears to me to be just the right kind of player to be looking for - a long term bet in terms of his age and one definitely on an upwards trajectory in his skill set and experience.
Given where he currently plies his trade we shouldn’t have to worry about any upheavals in his domestic life - he probably wouldn’t even need to move home.
I haven’t checked on his height for the CL test.
Hopeful SG is able to weave some magic before the window closes and I am genuinely looking forward to thousands more comments on here about every rumour. It doesn’t look as if we’ve assembled a squad to blow the league apart but it’s not all doom and gloom. It’s early on in the season and I think some of those earlier results were down to pants tactics which I’m sure NA is more than capable of learning from.
There there is film somewhere of John Beck chucking buckets of ice cold water at Phil Chapple in his Cambridge days. Also bollocks to ever going to Gillingham away again. There is absolutely nothing good about the experience.
Were we to sign Dempsey I wouldn’t care if we’d been insulting to his current club, unsettled the player through mind games. It all seems to be the way transfers are managed and achieved these days and our club is just as likely to be on the receiving end from others.
Dempsey appears to me to be just the right kind of player to be looking for - a long term bet in terms of his age and one definitely on an upwards trajectory in his skill set and experience.
Given where he currently plies his trade we shouldn’t have to worry about any upheavals in his domestic life - he probably wouldn’t even need to move home.
I haven’t checked on his height for the CL test.
Hopeful SG is able to weave some magic before the window closes and I am genuinely looking forward to thousands more comments on here about every rumour. It doesn’t look as if we’ve assembled a squad to blow the league apart but it’s not all doom and gloom. It’s early on in the season and I think some of those earlier results were down to pants tactics which I’m sure NA is more than capable of learning from.
If you replace pants tactics with a pants midfield I think your right.
Clare, Dobson and Morgan (as a ten) aren’t good enough, as a 3. I think that's caused a bit of panic, or change in tactics in the market, that has resulted in getting Lee and Arter. I don't think we would have gone for Lee if Morgan had performed, as he did in preseason, nor Arter if Dobson had impressed, like he did for AFCW.
Suddenly with two experienced midfeilders coming in and Morgan impressing deeper we have better options, and depth. It now wouldn't surprise me if Dobson went out on loan. He looks a long way from the first team at this point. But things change very quickly.
He has only been at forest 12 months and in that time they’ve been a terribly run club.
The person who probably will be able to give us a fair assessment is Rich Cawley as he was apparently very decent in Fulham’s promotion campaign, without being a lynchpin of their side.
If we get that Arter then we’ve got a very good signing.
If he is on anything like the 38k mooted though then that proves why Forest are a broken club at the moment.
Were we to sign Dempsey I wouldn’t care if we’d been insulting to his current club, unsettled the player through mind games. It all seems to be the way transfers are managed and achieved these days and our club is just as likely to be on the receiving end from others.
Dempsey appears to me to be just the right kind of player to be looking for - a long term bet in terms of his age and one definitely on an upwards trajectory in his skill set and experience.
Given where he currently plies his trade we shouldn’t have to worry about any upheavals in his domestic life - he probably wouldn’t even need to move home.
I haven’t checked on his height for the CL test.
Hopeful SG is able to weave some magic before the window closes and I am genuinely looking forward to thousands more comments on here about every rumour. It doesn’t look as if we’ve assembled a squad to blow the league apart but it’s not all doom and gloom. It’s early on in the season and I think some of those earlier results were down to pants tactics which I’m sure NA is more than capable of learning from.
If you replace pants tactics with a pants midfield I think your right.
Clare, Dobson and Morgan (as a ten) aren’t good enough, as a 3. I think that's caused a bit of panic, or change in tactics in the market, that has resulted in getting Lee and Arter. I don't think we would have gone for Lee if Morgan had performed, as he did in preseason, nor Arter if Dobson had impressed, like he did for AFCW.
Suddenly with two experienced midfeilders coming in and Morgan impressing deeper we have better options, and depth. It now wouldn't surprise me if Dobson went out on loan. He looks a long way from the first team at this point. But things change very quickly.
Agree other than I don’t see Dobson or anyone other than maybe Schwartz leaving on loan or permanently - we know how quickly injuries can build up and what that can do to your season.
Funny how we always want more signings and depth to cover injuries/suspensions, but we always seem to get to a point where that goes the other way and we start speculating about players leaving as we have too many!
Were we to sign Dempsey I wouldn’t care if we’d been insulting to his current club, unsettled the player through mind games. It all seems to be the way transfers are managed and achieved these days and our club is just as likely to be on the receiving end from others.
Dempsey appears to me to be just the right kind of player to be looking for - a long term bet in terms of his age and one definitely on an upwards trajectory in his skill set and experience.
Given where he currently plies his trade we shouldn’t have to worry about any upheavals in his domestic life - he probably wouldn’t even need to move home.
I haven’t checked on his height for the CL test.
Hopeful SG is able to weave some magic before the window closes and I am genuinely looking forward to thousands more comments on here about every rumour. It doesn’t look as if we’ve assembled a squad to blow the league apart but it’s not all doom and gloom. It’s early on in the season and I think some of those earlier results were down to pants tactics which I’m sure NA is more than capable of learning from.
If you replace pants tactics with a pants midfield I think your right.
Clare, Dobson and Morgan (as a ten) aren’t good enough, as a 3. I think that's caused a bit of panic, or change in tactics in the market, that has resulted in getting Lee and Arter. I don't think we would have gone for Lee if Morgan had performed, as he did in preseason, nor Arter if Dobson had impressed, like he did for AFCW.
Suddenly with two experienced midfeilders coming in and Morgan impressing deeper we have better options, and depth. It now wouldn't surprise me if Dobson went out on loan. He looks a long way from the first team at this point. But things change very quickly.
Agree other than I don’t see Dobson or anyone other than maybe Schwartz leaving on loan or permanently - we know how quickly injuries can build up and what that can do to your season.
Funny how we always want more signings and depth to cover injuries/suspensions, but we always seem to get to a point where that goes the other way and we start speculating about players leaving as we have too many!
The thing with Dobson would be that he would be 23 and no where near the first team, assuming Arter signs, we have only got 3 midweek league games before Christmas.
If he was ahead of Watson in the pecking order I wouldn't be suggesting we sent Watson out on loan. I think there is a player in Dobson but he won't improve by not playing. And unlike some of the older u23s there would be little value in a loan to a national league team.
It's a tough one. I would expect our Dempsey to go somewhere on loan, he is even further away from even the squad.
It's got to be said that going from being signed as the fulcrum of an ambitious, promotion seeking team to being usurped by a 36 year old Ben Watson within five games would be a pretty spectacular fall from grace for Dobson.
That said, I think with confidence and the right combination beside him he could at the very least do a job for us. I think he'd look considerably better in a midfield with Arter, Lee and a Morgan in the right position. (Though probably Clare would too.)
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What percentage of his wages are we paying?
Probably only about 10% I would guess even 15% would make him our highest earner.
Nigel Adkins must be aware of what he is getting himself in for. Arter has looked way past his best whenever he’s pulled on a Forest shirt and offloading him makes perfect sense.
He will go down as one of the biggest flops in Forest history and it’s a massive disappointment that he’s not been able to showcase his talents to the club.
Played for the club he supported though as well as being capped by England.
He’s another who could be an option for us in the next year or so but like Arter I wonder if we’re better spending more on a longer term option, someone who can grow with the club.
I get why we’re after experience as Watson isn’t good enough to be starting every week and we seem to have accepted Dobson isn’t either.
Dempsey appears to me to be just the right kind of player to be looking for - a long term bet in terms of his age and one definitely on an upwards trajectory in his skill set and experience.
Given where he currently plies his trade we shouldn’t have to worry about any upheavals in his domestic life - he probably wouldn’t even need to move home.
Although wages in stories/social media are often exaggerated or just made up.
Also bollocks to ever going to Gillingham away again. There is absolutely nothing good about the experience.
Clare, Dobson and Morgan (as a ten) aren’t good enough, as a 3. I think that's caused a bit of panic, or change in tactics in the market, that has resulted in getting Lee and Arter. I don't think we would have gone for Lee if Morgan had performed, as he did in preseason, nor Arter if Dobson had impressed, like he did for AFCW.
Suddenly with two experienced midfeilders coming in and Morgan impressing deeper we have better options, and depth. It now wouldn't surprise me if Dobson went out on loan. He looks a long way from the first team at this point. But things change very quickly.
The person who probably will be able to give us a fair assessment is Rich Cawley as he was apparently very decent in Fulham’s promotion campaign, without being a lynchpin of their side.
If he is on anything like the 38k mooted though then that proves why Forest are a broken club at the moment.
Funny how we always want more signings and depth to cover injuries/suspensions, but we always seem to get to a point where that goes the other way and we start speculating about players leaving as we have too many!
If he was ahead of Watson in the pecking order I wouldn't be suggesting we sent Watson out on loan. I think there is a player in Dobson but he won't improve by not playing. And unlike some of the older u23s there would be little value in a loan to a national league team.
It's a tough one. I would expect our Dempsey to go somewhere on loan, he is even further away from even the squad.
That said, I think with confidence and the right combination beside him he could at the very least do a job for us. I think he'd look considerably better in a midfield with Arter, Lee and a Morgan in the right position. (Though probably Clare would too.)