So when do we start to worry then because all I keep seeing is other teams signing up the better players
First day of the new season perhaps?
Certainly hasn't started like I thought we would
Dont care how it starts, how a season ends is all thats important
We needs to start of strong can't play catch up all the time
The Management team will have their targets, as I've said there is no indication that the likes of Scott Twine or Jack Whatmough were even on any lists.
If Rich Cawley were to tweet saying that we really wanted Twine ourselves then I might be a bit disappointed, but as he hasnt so far...
A real shame as Twine is a quality prospect, talented and exactly the right profile.
Keep the faith! even if my patience is being tested - note to self it’s only June 8th don’t worry about all the clubs signing players I would have liked 😬😬😬
He’s only played a dozen or so games but all the important metrics for a winger, he excels. Not saying we should base transfer policy solely on stats (hello Tommy D) and he should also pass the eye test. But trust me, Harriott didn’t have nearly as good numbers as this kid.
His xG/shot, touches in opposition area, xG assisted and passing completion percentage are all hugely impressive. He also doesn’t lose the ball a massive amount, while also doing a good job of winning the ball back for his team.
Like you said though numbers mean bugger all, without context. Harriott played for one of the worst teams in the league, and still scored 9 goals. What's does that tell you?
I do wonder & I know it's very early days & for sure there's stuff going on in the background but with TS telling us "we're going to bust this league" & his inexperience in football whether he has misjudged what it's going to take to get out of this division. Plenty of time & my fingers are firmly crossed
I think we can already see that league one next season isnt going to be easy. There are atleast 7 or 8 clubs that will have ambitions to win the league. I cant believe after all that has been said by TS and Adkins that we are not being very proactive in the market and I'm sure they will have a squad able to win the league when it starts. Keeping things close to their chests is a good thing imo we will see but I'm keeping the faith
He’s only played a dozen or so games but all the important metrics for a winger, he excels. Not saying we should base transfer policy solely on stats (hello Tommy D) and he should also pass the eye test. But trust me, Harriott didn’t have nearly as good numbers as this kid.
His xG/shot, touches in opposition area, xG assisted and passing completion percentage are all hugely impressive. He also doesn’t lose the ball a massive amount, while also doing a good job of winning the ball back for his team.
Like you said though numbers mean bugger all, without context. Harriott played for one of the worst teams in the league, and still scored 9 goals. What's does that tell you?
Absolutely fuck all, is the correct answer.
I’d like to think the stats provided by Statsbomb are a bit more contextualised than Harriott scoring nine goals though.
I agree with you that there is an element, as fans, that we can’t have seen every player’s every minute and so we’re in the dark but the hype exists for a reason.
I do wonder & I know it's very early days & for sure there's stuff going on in the background but with TS telling us "we're going to bust this league" & his inexperience in football whether he has misjudged what it's going to take to get out of this division. Plenty of time & my fingers are firmly crossed
Fair enough, but I would like to think that Thomas has plenty of experience within the recruitment and managership departments, Nige, Ged, Steve and will be guided in the right direction, I would like to think that behind the scenes there are things happening and negotiations going on, appreciate it sounds very quite, and all we see are our opposition seeming to get the jump on us, but all we can do is wait, and come the start of the season, we will be fine.
MK Dons landing Scott Twine is a great bit of business for them, I didn’t think they’d be the club to get him. He’ll most likely go for a lot more money within the next 18 months.
It’s a shame as I’d have liked us to sign him. It reminds me of when they signed Scott Fraser, clearly a good player but none of the bigger clubs seemed interested.
Wow, great signing by MK, Twine must have been on our list surely? I’m trying to stay positive but we need to start moving on signings. Even if they announced one at least it will keep this thread calm for a few hours!!
If the idea of signing Carlos Mendes Gomes doesn't excite you then I don't know why you bother tbh. We probably can't do better, we are a league 1 club right now and he has championship level clubs after him and Rangers. Would be a real coup for us if we managed it, which I doubt
I would love to know who we could get that is better and is a realistic target?
Absolutely agree , would be a fantastic signing if we can make it happen. Don't think we could realistically do much better as I think the likes of Joel Randall are out of our budget.
If the likes of Joel Randall are out of our budget then the 5 year plan is even more fanciful than I thought.
It depends what teams are asking for really. Exeter wanted £1m at last check, which is a huge amount of money for a 21 year old who has played 16 League Two games. There's a difference between us not being able to afford it and not being willing to blow that much money on a player. The fact is things are very, very different to how they were in 2011 and we can't just go around picking up loads of L1 talent on the cheap because in this market players aren't cheap anymore. I dread to think what someone like Dale Stephens or Danny Green would have cost in this market.
Agree with all this. I guess the point I was trying to make is that if we can't afford to sign promising League Two players then I think the 5 year plan is pie in the sky and in time the rhetoric will need moderating. Whether we think Randall specifically is worth Exeter's price tag is another matter entirely.
Not complaining, not my money to spend and am quite happy having a sensibly run stable club to support.
I thought the rumour out there is that Chuks hasn't rejected the deal we have put to him but neither has he signed it yet. He seems to have some Championship clubs interested and is probably weighing up his options.
In that case I'd tell him to sign the contract or fuck off
Why? he isn't a Charlton fan. He needs persuading. If we wanted a team full of Charlton fans it would probably be a shit team.
Reckon we will get Fraser (MKD), Grant (Lincoln), Dale (Crewe), Gomes (Morecombe) and Stockley, plus re-sign Aneke / Matthews/ Pearce and Amos and pick up Jay Rich-Baghuelou on loan from Palace. Pure guess work before anyone asks. We will then piss the league.
Reckon we will get Fraser (MKD), Grant (Lincoln), Dale (Crewe), Gomes (Morecombe) and Stockley, plus re-sign Aneke / Matthews/ Pearce and Amos and pick up Jay Rich-Baghuelou on loan from Palace. Pure guess work before anyone asks. We will then piss the league.
Been told we have made contact with Morecambe over their winger Gomes, but several Championship clubs also interested.
At least we seem to be looking to shop in the right store.
How good do we really think he is? I remember when we were first linked with players like Green and Ajose and many thought we had no chance as there’d be Championship interest.
Unless there’s no doubt he’s ready to make an impact in the Championship then he may want to come to a L1 side going for promotion where he’ll get regular game time and it’s a smaller step up.
No idea, never seen him play. Seems to have done quite well this season looking at his goals and assists. That often doesn't paint the full picture as we well know.
Seems a good age to develop further though.
He is "the type" of player that a lot of people, on this forum, seem very keen on. The two Exeter lads being another example.
I also see a lot of throw back to 2011 and what we did or didn't do 10 years ago.
Did we sign a single player (who was signed for the first team) who hadn't played at least 1 season, very recently, in league 1? I can't think of one.
I am not passing judgement on him because I have never seen him play but we would only want one or two of this type, not seven or eight, wouldn't we?
In fact Chris Powell as manager made a point of telling us ........ that at the end of the previous season when his management/scouting team were planning the major rebuild, they made the decision to sign what they considered the best of the League One players available - players who had already proven themselves in the division.
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Who says Fraser to Wigan is a goer ? I know its rumoured but maybe we could match the offer .
I agree that Twine looks like a replacement .
If Rich Cawley were to tweet saying that we really wanted Twine ourselves then I might be a bit disappointed, but as he hasnt so far...
Keep the faith! even if my patience is being tested - note to self it’s only June 8th don’t worry about all the clubs signing players I would have liked 😬😬😬
Absolutely fuck all, is the correct answer.
I cant believe after all that has been said by TS and Adkins that we are not being very proactive in the market and I'm sure they will have a squad able to win the league when it starts. Keeping things close to their chests is a good thing imo we will see but I'm keeping the faith
He is a dirty Twine
Not complaining, not my money to spend and am quite happy having a sensibly run stable club to support.
”No, I’m a frayed knot.”
You get the assist !