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Rod Liddle - another little dig at Charlton today

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  • sam3110
    sam3110 Posts: 21,270
    edited July 7
    I can't take anyone that's name can be translated as Cock? Tiny. seriously 
  • MillwallFan
    MillwallFan Posts: 3,348
    tallboy said:
    Chizz said:

    I dont read that horrendous hate filled far right conspiracy rag, but was sent a screenshot of the opening paragraph. He actually suggests a small Nuke similar to those used in WW2 be used on Glasto and a couple of other places to "rid the country" of people who annoy him.

    If you dont read it how do you know its a "hate filled far right conspiracy rag,"?

    You really need to attribute less gravity and seriousness to Rod Liddles written words.  He is a polemicist, you dont look to him for well reasoned, thought out, balanced debate but should instead expect a bit of shock, outrage and humour. I think what he writes is mostly funny and he rightly ridicules many subjects across the political spectrum. If the readers and targets of his "hurty words" get offended then thats their problem and they need to develop more resilience. If they dont grow thicker skins and claim they are outraged then I'm sure Rod Liddle will find a lot more else to upset them mainly because they are such an easy target and witnessing their outrage is in itself an amusing spectacle.
    Don’t be silly, he was deadly serious when he said Glastonbury should be nuked 🙄
  • cantersaddick
    cantersaddick Posts: 16,930
    tallboy said:
    Chizz said:

    I dont read that horrendous hate filled far right conspiracy rag, but was sent a screenshot of the opening paragraph. He actually suggests a small Nuke similar to those used in WW2 be used on Glasto and a couple of other places to "rid the country" of people who annoy him.

    If you dont read it how do you know its a "hate filled far right conspiracy rag,"?

    You really need to attribute less gravity and seriousness to Rod Liddles written words.  He is a polemicist, you dont look to him for well reasoned, thought out, balanced debate but should instead expect a bit of shock, outrage and humour. I think what he writes is mostly funny and he rightly ridicules many subjects across the political spectrum. If the readers and targets of his "hurty words" get offended then thats their problem and they need to develop more resilience. If they dont grow thicker skins and claim they are outraged then I'm sure Rod Liddle will find a lot more else to upset them mainly because they are such an easy target and witnessing their outrage is in itself an amusing spectacle.
    Its a fairly well known rag thats been around for a while. It basically self promotes as the furthest right actual publication (most things further right are just nut jobs writing online blogs). Its promoted conspiracy theory for years. One recently I saw they were promoting was that the government is controlling the weather. Doesn't take much awareness of the UK press to know what that rag is about. 

    As for RL I put zero weight on what he says but its clear in this instance that what he wrote in that article is objectively worse than the chant at Glasto that prompted it.
  • Friend Or Defoe
    Friend Or Defoe Posts: 18,093
    tallboy said:
    Chizz said:

    I dont read that horrendous hate filled far right conspiracy rag, but was sent a screenshot of the opening paragraph. He actually suggests a small Nuke similar to those used in WW2 be used on Glasto and a couple of other places to "rid the country" of people who annoy him.

    If you dont read it how do you know its a "hate filled far right conspiracy rag,"?

    You really need to attribute less gravity and seriousness to Rod Liddles written words.  He is a polemicist, you dont look to him for well reasoned, thought out, balanced debate but should instead expect a bit of shock, outrage and humour. I think what he writes is mostly funny and he rightly ridicules many subjects across the political spectrum. If the readers and targets of his "hurty words" get offended then thats their problem and they need to develop more resilience. If they dont grow thicker skins and claim they are outraged then I'm sure Rod Liddle will find a lot more else to upset them mainly because they are such an easy target and witnessing their outrage is in itself an amusing spectacle.
    Isn't the article based on hurty words from the man pictured? Also wasn't their Hillsborough report some what of a right wing conspiracy?
  • soapy_jones
    soapy_jones Posts: 21,355
    It's a great publication, goes great with the cat litter.  Mind you similar could be said for the rest of them.
  • JohnnyH2
    JohnnyH2 Posts: 5,343
    tallboy said:
    Chizz said:

    I dont read that horrendous hate filled far right conspiracy rag, but was sent a screenshot of the opening paragraph. He actually suggests a small Nuke similar to those used in WW2 be used on Glasto and a couple of other places to "rid the country" of people who annoy him.

    If you dont read it how do you know its a "hate filled far right conspiracy rag,"?

    You really need to attribute less gravity and seriousness to Rod Liddles written words.  He is a polemicist, you dont look to him for well reasoned, thought out, balanced debate but should instead expect a bit of shock, outrage and humour. I think what he writes is mostly funny and he rightly ridicules many subjects across the political spectrum. If the readers and targets of his "hurty words" get offended then thats their problem and they need to develop more resilience. If they dont grow thicker skins and claim they are outraged then I'm sure Rod Liddle will find a lot more else to upset them mainly because they are such an easy target and witnessing their outrage is in itself an amusing spectacle.
    Trouble is, far too many right wing, hate filled, less educated people take his, Farridge's, Yaxley-Lennon's, Littlejohn's etc spoutings with gravity and seriousness, and repeat and re-post it on social media and honk about it down the pub all the flippin' time.     
    The same can also be applied to people on the left and constantly post stuff from left wing commentator views
  • JohnnyH2
    JohnnyH2 Posts: 5,343
    tallboy said:
    Chizz said:

    I dont read that horrendous hate filled far right conspiracy rag, but was sent a screenshot of the opening paragraph. He actually suggests a small Nuke similar to those used in WW2 be used on Glasto and a couple of other places to "rid the country" of people who annoy him.

    If you dont read it how do you know its a "hate filled far right conspiracy rag,"?

    You really need to attribute less gravity and seriousness to Rod Liddles written words.  He is a polemicist, you dont look to him for well reasoned, thought out, balanced debate but should instead expect a bit of shock, outrage and humour. I think what he writes is mostly funny and he rightly ridicules many subjects across the political spectrum. If the readers and targets of his "hurty words" get offended then thats their problem and they need to develop more resilience. If they dont grow thicker skins and claim they are outraged then I'm sure Rod Liddle will find a lot more else to upset them mainly because they are such an easy target and witnessing their outrage is in itself an amusing spectacle.
    Its a fairly well known rag thats been around for a while. It basically self promotes as the furthest right actual publication (most things further right are just nut jobs writing online blogs). Its promoted conspiracy theory for years. One recently I saw they were promoting was that the government is controlling the weather. Doesn't take much awareness of the UK press to know what that rag is about. 

    As for RL I put zero weight on what he says but its clear in this instance that what he wrote in that article is objectively worse than the chant at Glasto that prompted it.
    Is it not the same as the chant at Glastonbury, both calling for people to die?

    Why is what happened again Glastonbury not as bad?
  • lolwray
    lolwray Posts: 4,902
    We're going down the soon to be closed route methinks 
  • cantersaddick
    cantersaddick Posts: 16,930
    edited July 7
    JohnnyH2 said:
    tallboy said:
    Chizz said:

    I dont read that horrendous hate filled far right conspiracy rag, but was sent a screenshot of the opening paragraph. He actually suggests a small Nuke similar to those used in WW2 be used on Glasto and a couple of other places to "rid the country" of people who annoy him.

    If you dont read it how do you know its a "hate filled far right conspiracy rag,"?

    You really need to attribute less gravity and seriousness to Rod Liddles written words.  He is a polemicist, you dont look to him for well reasoned, thought out, balanced debate but should instead expect a bit of shock, outrage and humour. I think what he writes is mostly funny and he rightly ridicules many subjects across the political spectrum. If the readers and targets of his "hurty words" get offended then thats their problem and they need to develop more resilience. If they dont grow thicker skins and claim they are outraged then I'm sure Rod Liddle will find a lot more else to upset them mainly because they are such an easy target and witnessing their outrage is in itself an amusing spectacle.
    Its a fairly well known rag thats been around for a while. It basically self promotes as the furthest right actual publication (most things further right are just nut jobs writing online blogs). Its promoted conspiracy theory for years. One recently I saw they were promoting was that the government is controlling the weather. Doesn't take much awareness of the UK press to know what that rag is about. 

    As for RL I put zero weight on what he says but its clear in this instance that what he wrote in that article is objectively worse than the chant at Glasto that prompted it.
    Is it not the same as the chant at Glastonbury, both calling for people to die?

    Why is what happened again Glastonbury not as bad?
    Without wishing to get the thread shut down. 2 reasons:
    1) who the target is - all festival goers (and all residents of Brighton) vs members of an organisation found guilty of many many war crimes
    2) the likelihood of its target audience to actually come into contact with the people that are being called for to die. His audience are much more likely to meet someone who went to Glasto (or even who was at that stage that night) than someone in that crowd is to meet a member of the IDF. 

    Point 2 is a key one in UK law around inciting violence. Its why Bob Vylan probably wont be found guilty whereas people suggesting violent mobs of rioters already gathering should target local specific hotels where migrants are staying, ended up pleading guilty. 
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  • Algarveaddick
    Algarveaddick Posts: 21,156
    JohnnyH2 said:
    tallboy said:
    Chizz said:

    I dont read that horrendous hate filled far right conspiracy rag, but was sent a screenshot of the opening paragraph. He actually suggests a small Nuke similar to those used in WW2 be used on Glasto and a couple of other places to "rid the country" of people who annoy him.

    If you dont read it how do you know its a "hate filled far right conspiracy rag,"?

    You really need to attribute less gravity and seriousness to Rod Liddles written words.  He is a polemicist, you dont look to him for well reasoned, thought out, balanced debate but should instead expect a bit of shock, outrage and humour. I think what he writes is mostly funny and he rightly ridicules many subjects across the political spectrum. If the readers and targets of his "hurty words" get offended then thats their problem and they need to develop more resilience. If they dont grow thicker skins and claim they are outraged then I'm sure Rod Liddle will find a lot more else to upset them mainly because they are such an easy target and witnessing their outrage is in itself an amusing spectacle.
    Trouble is, far too many right wing, hate filled, less educated people take his, Farridge's, Yaxley-Lennon's, Littlejohn's etc spoutings with gravity and seriousness, and repeat and re-post it on social media and honk about it down the pub all the flippin' time.     
    The same can also be applied to people on the left and constantly post stuff from left wing commentator views
    But that isn't what Rod Liddle does and that's the subject of this thread. 
  • SporadicAddick
    SporadicAddick Posts: 6,859
    edited July 7
    Like many others, I thoroughly enjoy Rod Liddle's amusing articles, and enjoy the newspaper he writes in (although I tend towards The Telegraph midweek and Saturday).

    Great read.
  • cantersaddick
    cantersaddick Posts: 16,930
    LoOkOuT said:
    JohnnyH2 said:

    The same can also be applied to people on the left and constantly post stuff from left wing commentator views
    View from ‘the Left’: People should have access to health care and corporations shouldn’t be allowed to fuck us.



    View from 'the right': I don't think these groups of people should be allowed to be people because I don't understand it 
  • SporadicAddick
    SporadicAddick Posts: 6,859
    LoOkOuT said:
    JohnnyH2 said:

    The same can also be applied to people on the left and constantly post stuff from left wing commentator views
    View from ‘the Left’: People should have access to health care and corporations shouldn’t be allowed to fuck us.



    Also my view from the right...
  • Covered End
    Covered End Posts: 52,008
    LoOkOuT said:
    JohnnyH2 said:

    The same can also be applied to people on the left and constantly post stuff from left wing commentator views
    View from ‘the Left’: People should have access to health care and corporations shouldn’t be allowed to fuck us.



    Also my view from the middle.
  • Killarahales
    Killarahales Posts: 1,057
    Rod Liddle must think his time has come. Unfortunately it's fast becoming one of the very worst times in modern history, whatever your political persuasion. And, of course he supports f***ing Millwall!
  • Chizz
    Chizz Posts: 28,338
    We're in the age of freedom of expression.  So Liddle should be allowed to print whatever he wants to.  

    Equally, we should be allowed to read what he says.  And to make up our own minds as to what type of person he is.  


  • IdleHans
    IdleHans Posts: 10,970
    Rod Liddle must think his time has come. Unfortunately it's fast becoming one of the very worst times in modern history, whatever your political persuasion. And, of course he supports f***ing schoolkids

  • stop_shouting
    stop_shouting Posts: 3,680
    LoOkOuT said:
    JohnnyH2 said:

    The same can also be applied to people on the left and constantly post stuff from left wing commentator views
    View from ‘the Left’: People should have access to health care and corporations shouldn’t be allowed to fuck us.



    Also my view from the right...
    And mine 👍
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  • killerandflash
    killerandflash Posts: 69,851
    Rod Little is a member of the Social Democratic Party anyway, not Reform.
  • soapy_jones
    soapy_jones Posts: 21,355
    Rod Liddle rhymes with piddle.

    Enough said.

    Please close the thread!
  • Redskin
    Redskin Posts: 3,113
    edited July 7
    If Pascal Robinson-Foster - AKA Bob Vylan - were given a gun and presented with shackled members of the IDF and told. 'Go ahead, kill them, no-one will ever know it was you'. Would he?
    If Rod Liddle were put aboard a plane with a nuclear warhead that would be dropped on the crowd watching 'Bob Vylan' on his command and told 'no-one will ever know it was you.' would he?
    Nah, it's all gutless, attention seeking narcissism and an affront to those truly affected by a war that no-one wants.
  • stop_shouting
    stop_shouting Posts: 3,680
    Redskin said:
    If Pascal Robinson-Foster - AKA Bob Vylan - were given a gun and presented with shackled members of the IDF and told. 'Go ahead, kill them, no-one will ever know it was you'. Would he?
    If Rod Liddle were put aboard a plane with a nuclear warhead that would be dropped on the crowd watching 'Bob Vylan' on his command and told 'no-one will ever know it was you.' would he?
    Nah, it's all gutless, attention seeking narcissism and an affront to those truly affected by a war that no-one wants.
    Love that analogy. So true.
  • McBobbin
    McBobbin Posts: 12,051
    Does he think he's channelling Jonathan swift with "a modest proposal" or is he just stirring. Can't be bothered to read his article to decide...
  • tallboy
    tallboy Posts: 115
    edited July 8
    McBobbin said:
    Does he think he's channelling Jonathan swift with "a modest proposal" or is he just stirring. Can't be bothered to read his article to decide...
    If you did read the article you would know that his target is the BBC (an organisation he knows well) He condemns the BBC for not recognising the nature of what was being stated in Bob Vylans stage performance and for being blinded by their own entrenched set of beliefs into thinking it was all just "top bants". On his own initial (outrageous) statement of bombing the Glastonbury crowd he writes:

    "I am not saying that we should do this, of course - it would be a horrible, psychopathic thing to do. I am merely hypothesising, in a slightly wistful kinda way."

    So, he proposes the unthinkable (bombing the Glastonbury crowd), dismisses this as 'psychopathic', asks where the line is on free speech and what should be done if it's thought the line of what is deemed acceptable is being crossed. He then challenges the BBCs ability to identify that line and how it is out of step with the mainstream view of the British public.

    A provocative, entertaining article that gets the reader to think and question the subject.


  • Algarveaddick
    Algarveaddick Posts: 21,156
    LoOkOuT said:
    JohnnyH2 said:

    The same can also be applied to people on the left and constantly post stuff from left wing commentator views
    View from ‘the Left’: People should have access to health care and corporations shouldn’t be allowed to fuck us.



    Also my view from the right...
    So which right wing party would you vote for? The Tories support corporations fucking us and Reform want them to run the NHS?

    (For the record, Labour also appear to support corporations fucking us - but maybe just not quite as hard?).  
  • cantersaddick
    cantersaddick Posts: 16,930
    tallboy said:
    McBobbin said:
    Does he think he's channelling Jonathan swift with "a modest proposal" or is he just stirring. Can't be bothered to read his article to decide...
    If you did read the article you would know that his target is the BBC (an organisation he knows well) He condemns the BBC for not recognising the nature of what was being stated in Bob Vylans stage performance and for being blinded by their own entrenched set of beliefs into thinking it was all just "top bants". On his own initial (outrageous) statement of bombing the Glastonbury crowd he writes:

    "I am not saying that we should do this, of course - it would be a horrible, psychopathic thing to do. I am merely hypothesising, in a slightly wistful kinda way."

    So, he proposes the unthinkable (bombing the Glastonbury crowd), dismisses this as 'psychopathic', asks where the line is on free speech and what should be done if it's thought the line of what is deemed acceptable is being crossed. He then challenges the BBCs ability to identify that line and how it is out of step with the mainstream view of the British public.

    A provocative, entertaining article that gets the reader to think and question the subject.


    Except none of that is true sbout the BBC. They didn't show other acts at Glastonbury for risk of this kind of thing. They immediately said they made a mistake in showing it and in not pulling it as the chants started and have said they will review their risk assessments. 

    So your/his main premise that the bbc were "blinded by their own entrenched set of beliefs into thinking it was all just "top bants"." Is clearly a pile of crap.
  • SporadicAddick
    SporadicAddick Posts: 6,859
    LoOkOuT said:
    JohnnyH2 said:

    The same can also be applied to people on the left and constantly post stuff from left wing commentator views
    View from ‘the Left’: People should have access to health care and corporations shouldn’t be allowed to fuck us.



    Also my view from the right...
    So which right wing party would you vote for? The Tories support corporations fucking us and Reform want them to run the NHS?

    (For the record, Labour also appear to support corporations fucking us - but maybe just not quite as hard?).  

    Well of course I have the opportunity to not vote for anyone...

    But at the moment I'm looking forward to a Conservative return to government in 4 years time, unless Keir implodes earlier - as we know, stranger things have happened. 
  • shirty5
    shirty5 Posts: 19,231