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  • Cordoban Addick
    Cordoban Addick Posts: 5,448
    limeygent said:
    Cordoban Addick said:
    How does Branson get away with convincing enough of the world that he is a decent bloke and not a capitalist?
    You can't be a capitalist and a decent bloke?
    Course you can but he pretends he isn't so that people think they are buying from a nice guy. He is in it to make money, be honest about it.
  • Cordoban Addick
    Cordoban Addick Posts: 5,448
    MrWalker said:


    Branson has given substantial sums to charities and schemes.
    An estimated $1.2-2 billion back in 2013
    https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/sir-richard-branson-give-away-1721394

    Founding the International Centre for Missing and Exploited Children was an excellent act. Eben put his mother on the board of directors.
    https://www.icmec.org/

    His Virgin Money foundation is amazing, dedicated to regenerating communities.
    https://virginmoneyfoundation.org.uk/about-the-foundation/

    Virgin Money Giving hitting the $1billion in fundraising
    https://www.prnewswire.co.uk/news-releases/virgin-vergin-on-ps1billion-for-charity-881074913.html

    Possibly some people think his Virgin Unite prooject makes him a good bloke?
    https://virginmoneyfoundation.org.uk/about-the-foundation/

    or Virgin Start-up?
    Or the first charity he set up when he was 17?



    https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/5022569/bransons-health-firm-wins-high-court-battle-with-nhs/
  • Cordoban Addick
    Cordoban Addick Posts: 5,448
    i_b_b_o_r_g said:
    Cordoban Addick said:
    How does Branson get away with convincing enough of the world that he is a decent bloke and not a capitalist?
    Think you'll find there a shed load of "capitalists" shovelling a lot of their resources into the aid effort on this, along with many other things that ain't related to C-19. 


    There are and some are great people and some aren't.

    https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/5022569/bransons-health-firm-wins-high-court-battle-with-nhs/
  • Cordoban Addick
    Cordoban Addick Posts: 5,448
    kentaddick said:
    i_b_b_o_r_g said:
    Cordoban Addick said:
    How does Branson get away with convincing enough of the world that he is a decent bloke and not a capitalist?
    Think you'll find there a shed load of "capitalists" shovelling a lot of their resources into the aid effort on this, along with many other things that ain't related to C-19. 
    Being a “capitalist” and a good bloke are not mutually exclusive, either. 

    But in answer to the original question: Branson has been openly used cannabis for years, so got a pass for a long time from the gullible. 

    Corrected you there.
  • MrWalker
    MrWalker Posts: 4,130
    Are we not seeing enough evidence of NHS procurement failures?
    Maybe you think the NHS can do no wrong?

    And it's hardly a balance, is it? 
  • Cordoban Addick
    Cordoban Addick Posts: 5,448
    MrWalker said:
    Are we not seeing enough evidence of NHS procurement failures?
    Maybe you think the NHS can do no wrong?

    And it's hardly a balance, is it? 
    You don't my opinions and my work. I could go on for days about the failings of the NHS and my attempts to improve the bits of it that I worked with. That would take a log conversation that would involve nuances that might not come across via this medium.

    It may surprise you that I don't think throwing money at the NHS is the answer and my opinions probably align better with one nation Tories, although with several different solutions, than the last Labour manifesto. I would be happy to meet up and bore you senseless with it before or after a game, should we ever be allowed to go out again or have a club to support. 

    If you could be arsed to look through my previous posts going back years (please don't, even lockdown can't be that boring) I have been pretty consistent with that message.

    But in short the NHS is a government department and it is failing, therefore he government is failing. This is despite herculean efforts by many or most of the individuals working within it.

  • MrWalker
    MrWalker Posts: 4,130
    edited April 2020
    What has your post got to do with The Sun article you posted?

    Whatever the issue with nhs contracts it doesnt counter the billions donated and raised for charity and good causes by Richard Branson
  • swords_alive
    swords_alive Posts: 4,283
    The Sun article goes some way to showing Branson is all about the bottom line when it comes to his business interests, and also highlights the procurement weaknesses in the nhs,  which you highlighted yourself Mr Walker. So you are on common ground there it would seem.

    Personally I would hope this thread didn't crash and die for an argument over one person's capitalistic v charitable credentials!
  • MrWalker
    MrWalker Posts: 4,130
    edited April 2020
    Barbour stepping up to the plate with ppe equipment production.
    https://www.northumberlandgazette.co.uk/health/coronavirus/barbour-turns-factory-production-line-ppe-it-backs-nhs-2534393
  • MartinCAFC
    MartinCAFC Posts: 3,228
    edited April 2020
    Weegie Addick said:
    Stelios took a £60M dividend out of Easyjet but the airline won't refund customers or the travel trade and was showing April flights as "sold out" rather than cancelled.
    Refunds are available on easyJet they just don't advertise them as they'd rather not pay out. I was due to be going to Milan next weekend but have now applied for a refund as advised by easyJet below after I sent them a bit of a stroppy private tweet not able to get through on the phone line to apply for a refund.

    HI Martin.
    If you prefer a refund, email your request to flightrefund@easyJet.com. As soon as your refund is processed, we will send you an email confirmation. It is extremely important that you enter the following information in the subject line of the email, in the same format as shown below. This will ensure we can process your request quickly. If you have more than one booking reference, please submit separate requests.
    Subject Line: Booking Reference/Departure Date/EN
    Example: ABC1D2E/16042020/EN
    Thank you and be safe! Isa

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  • Fumbluff
    Fumbluff Posts: 10,140
    It would be poor form to suggest that Justgiving and the like must be coining it in right now....
    Hopefully someone has a positive story about one of those service providers?
  • Fumbluff
    Fumbluff Posts: 10,140
    Also @Cordoban Addick can we have a log conversation please? My favourites are the ones you see on walks in the woods, how about yours?
  • kentaddick
    kentaddick Posts: 18,729
    Cordoban Addick said:
    kentaddick said:
    i_b_b_o_r_g said:
    Cordoban Addick said:
    How does Branson get away with convincing enough of the world that he is a decent bloke and not a capitalist?
    Think you'll find there a shed load of "capitalists" shovelling a lot of their resources into the aid effort on this, along with many other things that ain't related to C-19. 
    Being a “capitalist” and a good bloke are not mutually exclusive, either. 

    But in answer to the original question: Branson has been openly used cannabis for years, so got a pass for a long time from the gullible. 

    Corrected you there.
    Thought that part went without saying ;)
  • Cordoban Addick
    Cordoban Addick Posts: 5,448
    MrWalker said:
    What has your post got to do with The Sun article you posted?

    Whatever the issue with nhs contracts it doesnt counter the billions donated and raised for charity and good causes by Richard Branson

    Sorry, I thought there was two different themes running. 

    At least I know now not to bother trying to answer your questions in the future as it seems to be that it is not an answer you are looking for.
  • Cordoban Addick
    Cordoban Addick Posts: 5,448
    Fumbluff said:
    Also @Cordoban Addick can we have a log conversation please? My favourites are the ones you see on walks in the woods, how about yours?
    Impossible to leaf home at the moment, thought you would have twigged that if we ever make it I would quite like to branch out into Hedge Funds if that is oak with you.


    With apologies for my shit 'fast' typing.
  • AppyAddick
    AppyAddick Posts: 1,475
    https://www.telegraph.co.uk/technology/2020/04/08/smartphone-could-help-fight-coronavirus-sleep/amp/#aoh=15866952526736&referrer=https://www.google.com&amp_tf=From %1$s
  • MrWalker
    MrWalker Posts: 4,130
    Cordoban Addick said:
    MrWalker said:
    What has your post got to do with The Sun article you posted?

    Whatever the issue with nhs contracts it doesnt counter the billions donated and raised for charity and good causes by Richard Branson

    Sorry, I thought there was two different themes running. 

    At least I know now not to bother trying to answer your questions in the future as it seems to be that it is not an answer you are looking for.
    Bizarre.
  • seth plum
    seth plum Posts: 53,448
    Must get a Huawei as my next mobile telephone.
  • Off_it
    Off_it Posts: 28,902
    Cordoban Addick said:
    limeygent said:
    Cordoban Addick said:
    How does Branson get away with convincing enough of the world that he is a decent bloke and not a capitalist?
    You can't be a capitalist and a decent bloke?
    Course you can but he pretends he isn't so that people think they are buying from a nice guy. He is in it to make money, be honest about it.
    So, you can't be a nice guy if you're a capitalist and trying to make money?

    Wow. Must be nice to live in your black and white world. 


  • Cordoban Addick
    Cordoban Addick Posts: 5,448
    MrWalker said:
    Cordoban Addick said:
    MrWalker said:
    What has your post got to do with The Sun article you posted?

    Whatever the issue with nhs contracts it doesnt counter the billions donated and raised for charity and good causes by Richard Branson

    Sorry, I thought there was two different themes running. 

    At least I know now not to bother trying to answer your questions in the future as it seems to be that it is not an answer you are looking for.
    Bizarre.
    Only to those easily perplexed.

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  • Cordoban Addick
    Cordoban Addick Posts: 5,448
    Off_it said:
    Cordoban Addick said:
    limeygent said:
    Cordoban Addick said:
    How does Branson get away with convincing enough of the world that he is a decent bloke and not a capitalist?
    You can't be a capitalist and a decent bloke?
    Course you can but he pretends he isn't so that people think they are buying from a nice guy. He is in it to make money, be honest about it.
    So, you can't be a nice guy if you're a capitalist and trying to make money?

    Wow. Must be nice to live in your black and white world. 


    I always find it best to read all the posts before commenting.

    What I have said is that his particular shtick for selling stuff is to pretend that he is a nice guy when he isn't. But people cut him some slack because they believe it to be true. It is no different (but on a far grander scale) to sales people who try to get you to think they are your friend so that you buy stuff from them.

  • Off_it
    Off_it Posts: 28,902
    Cordoban Addick said:
    Off_it said:
    Cordoban Addick said:
    limeygent said:
    Cordoban Addick said:
    How does Branson get away with convincing enough of the world that he is a decent bloke and not a capitalist?
    You can't be a capitalist and a decent bloke?
    Course you can but he pretends he isn't so that people think they are buying from a nice guy. He is in it to make money, be honest about it.
    So, you can't be a nice guy if you're a capitalist and trying to make money?

    Wow. Must be nice to live in your black and white world. 


    I always find it best to read all the posts before commenting.

    What I have said is that his particular shtick for selling stuff is to pretend that he is a nice guy when he isn't. But people cut him some slack because they believe it to be true. It is no different (but on a far grander scale) to sales people who try to get you to think they are your friend so that you buy stuff from them.

    Oh, I completely agree - it's definitely a good idea to read all posts before commenting.

    I read all of yours before commenting and still don't really understand what your beef is, not that I'm overly bothered.

    You say he's "not a nice guy" but don't really back that up with a lot, other than posting a link (twice) to an article about a Virgin branded company taking court action - and winning - against the NHS a few years back. 

    You said "How does Branson get away with convincing enough of the world that he is a decent bloke and not a capitalist?"

    The clear inference in your post is that you can't be both - you're presenting it as an "either or" option. All I'm saying is that it would be nice if everything was so black and white.

    Good day to you, sir.
  • ShootersHillGuru
    ShootersHillGuru Posts: 50,652
    edited April 2020
    Nothing wrong in my book with making money. It’s when the quest to do so badly impacts others where it becomes objectionable. 
  • MuttleyCAFC
    MuttleyCAFC Posts: 47,768
    As a landlord we accept our tenants can't pay the rent. My son is at Bournemouth University and he is still paying for tuition he isn't getting and accommodation he isn't using. There seems to be one law for us and one law for them. 
  • Cordoban Addick
    Cordoban Addick Posts: 5,448
    Actually @Off_it I think you are reading it as an "either/or" option.

    Bye 
  • Todds_right_hook
    Todds_right_hook Posts: 10,889
    MuttleyCAFC said:
    As a landlord we accept our tenants can't pay the rent. My son is at Bournemouth University and he is still paying for tuition he isn't getting and accommodation he isn't using. There seems to be one law for us and one law for them. 
    Yes, just like some are receiving 80% of their income to stay at home and some have been forced to close businesses and have sleepless nights as to how the food shopping will be paid for
  • Covered End
    Covered End Posts: 52,049
    MuttleyCAFC said:
    As a landlord we accept our tenants can't pay the rent. My son is at Bournemouth University and he is still paying for tuition he isn't getting and accommodation he isn't using. There seems to be one law for us and one law for them. 
    Martin Lewis was was talking about this on This Morning (specifically Bournemouth Univ).
    He said he would be tweeting about it later.
  • Rob7Lee
    Rob7Lee Posts: 9,609
    My daughters the same (Portsmouth) still paying rent and Tuition fee's. Although to be fair they are receiving some lectures if not anywhere near as often as they were when face to face. Seems a real mixture with some Uni owned property allowing contracts to be ended early, others not and Private rented generally wanting payment to continue.

    Her final rent payment is due next week, 
  • MrOneLung
    MrOneLung Posts: 26,890
    Cordoban Addick said:
    Actually @Off_it I think you are reading it as an "either/or" option.

    Bye 
    There is a clear inference in your sentence below, that him being a capitalist would be at odds to the world thinking he is a decent bloke. 

    How does Branson get away with convincing enough of the world that he is a decent bloke and not a capitalist?

    If that inference is incorrect, then please clarify what you actually meant
  • Greenie Junior
    Greenie Junior Posts: 3,881
    Off_it said:
    Hang on, just so I get this right, you can go on the "shit list" just by not paying your suppliers?

    So that puts Charlton firmly on the list then. Along with thousands of other businesses. Good luck with that.



    I don’t get why people wouldn’t pay their suppliers. My suppliers are fully paid up. Once this is all said and done, I’m going to need them and I’m going to need the best deals from them.

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