Chris Parkes (Retired p5, some unique donations to the museum p11)

Valiantphil

killerandflash said:

Airman Brown said:

valleynick66 said:

Henry Irving said:

Doesn't seem well planned.

Unless they promote in-house they may need to wait one or even three months while the replacement works their notice.

Would have made sense to keep Chris to the end of the season so there was a handover anyway.

Not a fair statement  in my opinion to say not well planned. 

Senior appointments in any industry take time. 3 months notice or longer often the norm and even then won’t always allow for a handover period. Ridiculously HR on-boarding of a new employee can take several weeks or up to a month post a job offer. This can be bettered but often isn’t. 

I had inferred it wasn’t planned in as much as CP imitated it. As a small club we don’t have succession plans I assume for all roles out of practicality and of course due to recent neglect under RD and before. 

To have negotiated a bit longer to handover : support is the right outcome. 

I might guess CP wants to be fully clear by the end of the season and disappear on holidays etc. at the latest so the new incumbent also has a clean slate for next season. 

I don’t think Chris is anxious to leave at all but he has now sold up and is moving well north of London.

Is he moving to Brighton?

That will be a whoosh for many, but nice one fella. 

Lordflashheart

oohaahmortimer said:

So he was asked to leave , rather than he requested to leave 

Correct - indeed my understanding is he was ‘told’

DagenhamAddick

So the consensus is he was kicked out. The plot thickens. Will be very interesting to see who Thomas replaces him with?

Scoham

Joachim Sandgaard 3/1
Curbs 16/1

valleynick66

Airman Brown said:

valleynick66 said:

Henry Irving said:

Doesn't seem well planned.

Unless they promote in-house they may need to wait one or even three months while the replacement works their notice.

Would have made sense to keep Chris to the end of the season so there was a handover anyway.

Not a fair statement  in my opinion to say not well planned. 

Senior appointments in any industry take time. 3 months notice or longer often the norm and even then won’t always allow for a handover period. Ridiculously HR on-boarding of a new employee can take several weeks or up to a month post a job offer. This can be bettered but often isn’t. 

I had inferred it wasn’t planned in as much as CP imitated it. As a small club we don’t have succession plans I assume for all roles out of practicality and of course due to recent neglect under RD and before. 

To have negotiated a bit longer to handover : support is the right outcome. 

I might guess CP wants to be fully clear by the end of the season and disappear on holidays etc. at the latest so the new incumbent also has a clean slate for next season. 

I don’t think Chris is anxious to leave at all but he has now sold up and is moving well north of London.

@Airman Brown Interesting wording by you. Are you saying it wasn't his choice to retire this season?

Tunwellsaddick

Write a book in retirement Chris.  Many events have happened throughout your long time with CA and much speculation has been given to them but often the full facts never qiute emerge. 

I am sure it would make a facinating read for all dedicated Charlton fans and could be a "best seller". (the proceeds might also be helpful to provide some compensation after leaving without a pension). 

I wish you a long and happy retirement (when it comes) and thank you for being an important stabilising element at the club throughout the many turbulent times that have concerned us all. 

eaststandmike

Tunwellsaddick said:

Write a book in retirement Chris.  Many events have happened throughout your long time with CA and much speculation has been given to them but often the full facts never qiute emerge. 

I am sure it would make a facinating read for all dedicated Charlton fans and could be a "best seller". (the proceeds might also be helpful to provide some compensation after leaving without a pension). 

I wish you a long and happy retirement (when it comes) and thank you for being an important stabilising element at the club throughout the many turbulent times that have concerned us all. 

They will probably ask him to sign an NDA before he leaves.

I suspect Bowyer, Adkins & JJ when he goes could all spill the beans but the NDA will stifle them.

DagenhamAddick

On a day to day basis could somebody please provide a brief breakdown of what this role entails. And is it something that you would need to have done at another club to apply for?

se9addick

DagenhamAddick said:

On a day to day basis could somebody please provide a brief breakdown of what this role entails. And is it something that you would need to have done at another club to apply for?

Getting your CV ready?

seth plum

North of true London is Canary Wharf.
Which is in Scotland, just as Wandsworth is Wales.
True London is SE London obvs.

DagenhamAddick

se9addick said:

DagenhamAddick said:

On a day to day basis could somebody please provide a brief breakdown of what this role entails. And is it something that you would need to have done at another club to apply for?

Getting your CV ready?

Ha Ha no not at all. I asking only because I don't really understand the role. Is it a job that could be shared or even done on a part time basis. As I'm pretty sure that Thomas is going to look at a lot of roles at the club and streamline things even more.

SoundAsa£

He is deffo planning on moving a good way north.

seth plum

One absolute fundamental, which Chris never got wrong, is to make sure every player in all club teams is eligible to play. The rules and restrictions can be complex but at least we have never (from memory) been sanctioned for playing the wrong player or breaking Governing Body(s) rules.
The sensible thing it seems to me would be for the new club secretary to work alongside/shadowing Chris for a couple of months to learn the ropes.

The nightmare scenario would be if Cheese sandwich Cojones is reassigned to Chris’ role.

JohnnyH2

seth plum said:

One absolute fundamental, which Chris never got wrong, is to make sure every player in all club teams is eligible to play. The rules and restrictions can be complex but at least we have never (from memory) been sanctioned for playing the wrong player or breaking Governing Body(s) rules.
The sensible thing it seems to me would be for the new club secretary to work alongside/shadowing Chris for a couple of months to learn the ropes.

The nightmare scenario would be if Cheese sandwich Cojones is reassigned to Chris’ role.

Only once in his 30 years did it occur, when we played an ineligible player in the Youth Cup away at Plymouth where we were thrown out and could have been thrown our of the FA Cup as a result  The blame for that was put squarely at the Youth Coach Neil Banfield who knew what he was doing was wrong but thought he could get away with it.  

Airman Brown

seth plum said:

One absolute fundamental, which Chris never got wrong, is to make sure every player in all club teams is eligible to play. The rules and restrictions can be complex but at least we have never (from memory) been sanctioned for playing the wrong player or breaking Governing Body(s) rules.
The sensible thing it seems to me would be for the new club secretary to work alongside/shadowing Chris for a couple of months to learn the ropes.

The nightmare scenario would be if Cheese sandwich Cojones is reassigned to Chris’ role.

That would entail taking responsibility, so is unlikely.

DOUCHER

Lordflashheart said:

oohaahmortimer said:

So he was asked to leave , rather than he requested to leave 

Correct - indeed my understanding is he was ‘told’

not my understanding of it - was his choice 

oohaahmortimer

DagenhamAddick said:

On a day to day basis could somebody please provide a brief breakdown of what this role entails. And is it something that you would need to have done at another club to apply for? Asking for a friend

Something seems amiss here 

MuttleyCAFC

So it was his choice or he may have been pushed or possibly a bit of both. That's all clear then.

DaveMehmet

eaststandmike said:

Tunwellsaddick said:

Write a book in retirement Chris.  Many events have happened throughout your long time with CA and much speculation has been given to them but often the full facts never qiute emerge. 

I am sure it would make a facinating read for all dedicated Charlton fans and could be a "best seller". (the proceeds might also be helpful to provide some compensation after leaving without a pension). 

I wish you a long and happy retirement (when it comes) and thank you for being an important stabilising element at the club throughout the many turbulent times that have concerned us all. 

They will probably ask him to sign an NDA before he leaves.

I suspect Bowyer, Adkins & JJ when he goes could all spill the beans but the NDA will stifle them.

If he's retiring, why would he have to sign an NDA? (unless they pay him off).

Airman Brown

DaveMehmet said:

eaststandmike said:

Tunwellsaddick said:

Write a book in retirement Chris.  Many events have happened throughout your long time with CA and much speculation has been given to them but often the full facts never qiute emerge. 

I am sure it would make a facinating read for all dedicated Charlton fans and could be a "best seller". (the proceeds might also be helpful to provide some compensation after leaving without a pension). 

I wish you a long and happy retirement (when it comes) and thank you for being an important stabilising element at the club throughout the many turbulent times that have concerned us all. 

They will probably ask him to sign an NDA before he leaves.

I suspect Bowyer, Adkins & JJ when he goes could all spill the beans but the NDA will stifle them.

If he's retiring, why would he have to sign an NDA? (unless they pay him off).

And why would anything before 2020 be protected by Thomas Sandgaard? But Chris won't be signing an NDA and he isn't writing a book.

Always amuses me that people think x, y, or z could write a book about Charlton and it would be "a best seller". It's a very limited market.

Tunwellsaddick

Airman Brown said:

DaveMehmet said:

eaststandmike said:

Tunwellsaddick said:

Write a book in retirement Chris.  Many events have happened throughout your long time with CA and much speculation has been given to them but often the full facts never qiute emerge. 

I am sure it would make a facinating read for all dedicated Charlton fans and could be a "best seller". (the proceeds might also be helpful to provide some compensation after leaving without a pension). 

I wish you a long and happy retirement (when it comes) and thank you for being an important stabilising element at the club throughout the many turbulent times that have concerned us all. 

They will probably ask him to sign an NDA before he leaves.

I suspect Bowyer, Adkins & JJ when he goes could all spill the beans but the NDA will stifle them.

If he's retiring, why would he have to sign an NDA? (unless they pay him off).

And why would anything before 2020 be protected by Thomas Sandgaard? But Chris won't be signing an NDA and he isn't writing a book.

Always amuses me that people think x, y, or z could write a book about Charlton and it would be "a best seller". It's a very limited market.

I should have clarified. I meant a best seller amongst the Charlton following.

Henry Irving

His role included to my knowledge:

Registering players with the FA and league.

Reregistering all the players, every year including contracts at youth levels.

Travel and hotels for away trips for all teams.

Arrangements for pre-season trips and games.

Dealing with FA and league over fixture dates, changes, rules, refs, etc

Paying fines etc

Registering new directors 

Attending league conferences.

All of which are a lot more complicated 

Probably a lot more I've forgotten or just don't know about.

DagenhamAddick

Henry Irving said:

His role included to my knowledge:

Registering players with the FA and league.

Reregistering all the players, every year including contracts at youth levels.

Travel and hotels for away trips for all teams.

Arrangements for pre-season trips and games.

Dealing with FA and league over fixture dates, changes, rules, refs, etc

Paying fines etc

Registering new directors 

Attending league conferences.

All of which are a lot more complicated 

Probably a lot more I've forgotten or just don't know about.

Thanks very much for that. Will be interesting to see if Thomas replaces him or promotes somebody internally.

Airman Brown

Tunwellsaddick said:

Airman Brown said:

DaveMehmet said:

eaststandmike said:

Tunwellsaddick said:

Write a book in retirement Chris.  Many events have happened throughout your long time with CA and much speculation has been given to them but often the full facts never qiute emerge. 

I am sure it would make a facinating read for all dedicated Charlton fans and could be a "best seller". (the proceeds might also be helpful to provide some compensation after leaving without a pension). 

I wish you a long and happy retirement (when it comes) and thank you for being an important stabilising element at the club throughout the many turbulent times that have concerned us all. 

They will probably ask him to sign an NDA before he leaves.

I suspect Bowyer, Adkins & JJ when he goes could all spill the beans but the NDA will stifle them.

If he's retiring, why would he have to sign an NDA? (unless they pay him off).

And why would anything before 2020 be protected by Thomas Sandgaard? But Chris won't be signing an NDA and he isn't writing a book.

Always amuses me that people think x, y, or z could write a book about Charlton and it would be "a best seller". It's a very limited market.

I should have clarified. I meant a best seller amongst the Charlton following.

Not aimed at you particularly, tbf. People say it all the time. 

valleynick66

valleynick66 said:

Airman Brown said:

valleynick66 said:

Henry Irving said:

Doesn't seem well planned.

Unless they promote in-house they may need to wait one or even three months while the replacement works their notice.

Would have made sense to keep Chris to the end of the season so there was a handover anyway.

Not a fair statement  in my opinion to say not well planned. 

Senior appointments in any industry take time. 3 months notice or longer often the norm and even then won’t always allow for a handover period. Ridiculously HR on-boarding of a new employee can take several weeks or up to a month post a job offer. This can be bettered but often isn’t. 

I had inferred it wasn’t planned in as much as CP imitated it. As a small club we don’t have succession plans I assume for all roles out of practicality and of course due to recent neglect under RD and before. 

To have negotiated a bit longer to handover : support is the right outcome. 

I might guess CP wants to be fully clear by the end of the season and disappear on holidays etc. at the latest so the new incumbent also has a clean slate for next season. 

I don’t think Chris is anxious to leave at all but he has now sold up and is moving well north of London.

@Airman Brown Interesting wording by you. Are you saying it wasn't his choice to retire this season?

@airmanbrown

@Airman Brown

was there something to infer from your previous response as I had taken the club announcement at face value initially as a well deserved retirement. 

Lordflashheart

Henry Irving said:

His role included to my knowledge:

Registering players with the FA and league.

Reregistering all the players, every year including contracts at youth levels.

Travel and hotels for away trips for all teams.

Arrangements for pre-season trips and games.

Dealing with FA and league over fixture dates, changes, rules, refs, etc

Paying fines etc

Registering new directors 

Attending league conferences.

All of which are a lot more complicated 

Probably a lot more I've forgotten or just don't know about.

Also responsible for writing up and submitting the club’s report on the referee and his officials for every game - I imagine after consultation with manager and coaching staff

ParkinsonOut

DagenhamAddick said:

So the consensus is he was kicked out. The plot thickens. Will be very interesting to see who Thomas replaces him with?

Auntie Sandgaard? 

Airman Brown

valleynick66 said:

valleynick66 said:

Airman Brown said:

valleynick66 said:

Henry Irving said:

Doesn't seem well planned.

Unless they promote in-house they may need to wait one or even three months while the replacement works their notice.

Would have made sense to keep Chris to the end of the season so there was a handover anyway.

Not a fair statement  in my opinion to say not well planned. 

Senior appointments in any industry take time. 3 months notice or longer often the norm and even then won’t always allow for a handover period. Ridiculously HR on-boarding of a new employee can take several weeks or up to a month post a job offer. This can be bettered but often isn’t. 

I had inferred it wasn’t planned in as much as CP imitated it. As a small club we don’t have succession plans I assume for all roles out of practicality and of course due to recent neglect under RD and before. 

To have negotiated a bit longer to handover : support is the right outcome. 

I might guess CP wants to be fully clear by the end of the season and disappear on holidays etc. at the latest so the new incumbent also has a clean slate for next season. 

I don’t think Chris is anxious to leave at all but he has now sold up and is moving well north of London.

@Airman Brown Interesting wording by you. Are you saying it wasn't his choice to retire this season?

@airmanbrown

@Airman Brown

was there something to infer from your previous response as I had taken the club announcement at face value initially as a well deserved retirement. 

If you want to know whether he jumped or was pushed, the answer is somewhere in between. Where you put the emphasis is probably a matter of perspective. 

aliwibble

Lordflashheart said:

Henry Irving said:

His role included to my knowledge:

Registering players with the FA and league.

Reregistering all the players, every year including contracts at youth levels.

Travel and hotels for away trips for all teams.

Arrangements for pre-season trips and games.

Dealing with FA and league over fixture dates, changes, rules, refs, etc

Paying fines etc

Registering new directors 

Attending league conferences.

All of which are a lot more complicated 

Probably a lot more I've forgotten or just don't know about.

Also responsible for writing up and submitting the club’s report on the referee and his officials for every game - I imagine after consultation with manager and coaching staff

That must've been fun at certain points under Lee Bowyer

shirty5

55 grand a year, Pizza on Fridays, Vol au Vents on matchdays 

https://jobsinfootball.com/job/28150/club-secretary/