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Charlton v Middlesbrough | Sat 07 Mar | 3pm KO | Post-match Thread
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Yes. We were shite but at least more people were washing their hands.AFKABartram said:Can we all have a try to get the post-match thread talking about the match please? Cheers
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Stop fuckin about with silly formations and go back to basics and see what happensLouisMend said:5 -
Just checked my post from the match preview thread 2 days ago. and the crystal ball seems to be working.
Valiantphil
With two depressing defeats on the road you’d hope that we see a Charlton team truly fired up come 3pm
More likely to see a Charlton team passing it across the back four, into the centre circle, then back to the keeper. Any attacking FK or Throw, will be directed towards our own end.The truth is, we have to come out the tunnel (both times) and overrun them from the off.Get a lead, hold onto it, build on it, then put subs into the defence to secure the points.The probability is that we will be asleep, one down, chase the game, and throw tons of attacking energy into the last 5 minutes of the game, and come away with nothing.These players need to step up to the reality.Just like Lapslie clearing off the line with his face at Pompey last season.More like that and less of the Oshilaja shuffle.
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I got a feeling Bowyer has lost the players. Where has the effort gone? We have been poor at the back all season but at least we were decent going forward.0
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Shite last week. Shite this week: no more no less. Probably going down. 🤷🏻♂️0
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27 out of 44 assists this season from the following players who weren’t on the pitch for the first half today (and 3 have left the club):
Sarr, Gallagher, Leko, Doughty, Bonne, Morgan; Lockyer, Solly, Kayal, Ozzy, Davis, Aneke, Field0 -
Lost to the better side. Plenty of complaints:ChrisWhytesBaldhead said:Lost to the better side. No complaints.
1. Giving away so many corners
2. Allowing them to make so many crosses
3. Standing off of them and allowing them to pass around us
4. Not pushing out quickly enough
5. Dithering instead of crossing
6. Inaccurate crossing
7. Playing the midfielder who should have been the most threatening (but wasn't) too far apart from our best attacker
8. Being shot shy
9. Gifting them an easy goal
No doubt we lost to the better side, but only because we allowed them to be.11 -
Certainly mate sadly...afraid bottom 3 clubs are promoted clubs...how longrobroy said:Shite last week. Shite this week: no more no less. Probably going down. 🤷🏻♂️
before this is a closed shop...we haven't helped.0 -
Sheikh with no shekels. Bad window. Paying the price.3
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WTF has happened to Aneke btw??? Would rather him on the bench than Mcgeady.EveshamAddick said:27 out of 44 assists this season from the following players who weren’t on the pitch for the first half today (and 3 have left the club):
Sarr, Gallagher, Leko, Doughty, Bonne, Morgan; Lockyer, Solly, Kayal, Ozzy, Davis, Aneke, Field2 -
I would add giving away needless free kicks in dangerous areas ie; anything in our own half and beyond.Stig said:
Lost to the better side. Plenty of complaints:ChrisWhytesBaldhead said:Lost to the better side. No complaints.
1. Giving away so many corners
2. Allowing them to make so many crosses
3. Standing off of them and allowing them to pass around us
4. Not pushing out quickly enough
5. Dithering instead of crossing
6. Inaccurate crossing
7. Playing the midfielder who should have been the most threatening (but wasn't) too far apart from our best attacker
8. Being shot shy
9. Gifting them an easy goal
No doubt we lost to the better side, but only because we allowed them to be.0 -
First time this season where i think we’ll go down. Just not good enough. Still, we go on!1
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He set them up to play from the back, inviting the pressure. If a manager thinks Pearce and Deji are capable of passing the ball around then he deserves criticism.ForeverAddickted said:
Bowyer is right and its why calls for his head are beyond embarrassingLouisMend said:
Players are doing things that are beyond his control, yes he's telling them to keep the ball (as I would) but he's not going to be telling them to pass it back on every occasion
Instead those players are doing what they think in their own heads is the safe option, because confidence is low and because they think in the split second its the right decision - Yes its up to Bowyer to try and restore that confidence but when we speak so freely about Mental Health on these threads its clear that installing confidence and self believe in human beings isnt as easy as flicking a light switch4 -
Wheres our young chairman by the way?! He was quite lively in jan.1
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When we gave the ball away, why didn’t someone take their guy out instead of letting him run all the way into our box?0
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The East stand ball boy was man of the match for me, ran his socks off to get the ball back in play. The two morons at the front of B block effing about with the ball instead of giving it back summed up the day. Do simple things, play, pass , move.
We are in deep do-do. Hope we don't have to go to Leeds and get a result.7 -
Bow reckons on another day we might have won it.
Dreaming.
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So so negative from the start can only come from the way Bowyer sets us up.
Teams press us when we try to play out from the back, which we are simply not good enough at.
We don’t know how to mark players, even from something as simple as a throw in.
The first halve wasn’t poor it was (like ESI’s transfer window)a complete shit shambles.
Bonne coming on made a difference in second half but how few shots on target we had says it all.
We look like relegation prime candidate but you never know we might just surprise a few, next weeks game absolutely crucial.
Also if we tried to play forward instead of back we just might not lose the ball in poor positions and give silly goals away.6 - Sponsored links:
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Worrying if he thinks that.Chunes said:Bow reckons on another day we might have won it.
Dreaming.0 -
Probably already knows who he'll be managing next season.LargeAddick said:
Worrying if he thinks that.Chunes said:Bow reckons on another day we might have won it.
Dreaming.0 -
England won the rugby1
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Yeah. All been said on here. That was rubbish from start to finish.0
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One of the other most frustrating aspects of this afternoon was that the fans kept going today. We were a bit frustrated at the goal conceded and a few times when we gave the ball away, the lack of movement etc, but overall we did our bit. We kept going and tried to get behind them. We didn’t deserve that performance today, nor did the hardy souls that travelled up to Wednesday and Huddersfield.
got to put more of a shift in next week from the 1st minute. And that means not giving the ball away and going for it, hard0 -
Draw would have been a fair result from two poor teams. We gifted them a goal that a pub team manager would be cross about. Same as the opener last week. This is a sign of a side low in confidence. What we need is to play a side like us . We are one of the few sides who Sheffield Wednesday could have beaten the other week.
Are we going down? Possibly but not certainly. Sarr is coming back and he makes a massive difference all over the pitch. Fortunately we are playing possibly a poorer side than us next week. Bowyer has to try and impose ourselves on them and not play for a draw, Am I certain he will do this - of course not but hoping he will. Win that and things will look a bit different. Lose it and it looks bad. Really bad.
I'm not saying we should sack him but Bowyer has lost his way a bit. He needs to reset and go down fighting..... and maybe we won't go down if he does. Aneke has to be tried. He should at least be on the bench if fit.
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I could copy and paste my comments from last week, another poor performance against a relegation rival and deserved defeat.
Boro have done the double against us, SIX points we’ve given them2 -
It appears that we have no idea how to attack. Their (tall) number six was man marking Lyle and had a very good game because we kept kindly kicking it to him to head back up the pitch. We had about one attacking header all match (the chance near the end) yet kept trying to cross for the header - which, unsurprisingly, didn't work. Lyle was isolated and most attacking moves ended up back with Dillon. Today we looked liked we could have played until midnight without scoring. Imagine if Lyle had a big, strong strike partner to link with. Is Yann still playing?
We seem to have a strange habit of passing to people who are marked, rather than trying to find the space so we end up giving the ball away a lot. When we end up with the ball near their box we look like we have no idea what to do. Oh and Darren, as much as I love your aggressive midfield game, please stay well clear of their goal as you got in the way of at least two chances and fluffed a good opportunity. Thanks. As for the defence, apart from the error leading to their goal, we did reasonably well; however, Boro had quite a few (terrible) shots at goal and if we let a better side do that they will Muller us.
I can't seem to make sense of what our game plan is and why we often appear to play to the strength of our opponents, but we don't have an awful lot in the locker to change it up. The unfortunate truth is that the majority of our squad is League One standard (with a few obvious exceptions) who are trying to cut it in the league above. We were bound to run out of luck sometime.
Who to blame? Well, ESI were never going to be able to perform miracles, especially with so little time, but it speaks volumes that none of those brought in in January (apart from Green) were seen today; therefore, they are basically pointless as Bow's clearly doesn't rate them. Makes all the supa-dupa phone business even more embarrassing, but I am still going to reserve judgement on ESI until the start of next season; that's when we'll know what they're really all about. - We clearly need a squad clear out and a back to basics approach - especially as we're likely to be a division below next season, by the looks of it - I mean, I'm trying to look for positives, but if you look at the circumstances of the last three results there doesn't appear to be any chance of us staying up apart from other teams being docked points, which I am loathe to believe will actually happen in any case.
Never easy being Charlton, is it?4 -
first half complete waste of time - team that started the second half , save for swopping green for doughty was the team i picked - it was 100% better than first half so sorry bowyer yoiu have fucked it up again - you do not start lapslie in a game u must win and you play your best 2 strikers up top - its not rocket science - there are other issues that are not bowyers fault necessarily but i lay these one's firmly at his door5
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Scratchingvalleycat said:Haven't heard anyone say that we are missing Naby Sarr but he is our our only source of salvation. That and a boot up the backside for the team. The ref gave us nothing except three yellow cards for infringements that he allowed Borough to get away with more than once. Dillon didnt learn that we had to play out from the back and continued to punt long balls at Taylor that their defence won. As for their goal, the least said the better
We were getting nowhere playing out from the back. You just had to watch how their players pressed our defenders whenever they were in possession, forcing errors. Naby and Matthews are comfortable on the ball, the rest of our defenders aren't. More often than not when Phillips did play it short, it ended up back witth him and what did he do? Punt it long. It worked early season but we were found out long ago.
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