Ideally a Premier League club. We know we are capable of it considering the likes of Bournemouth, Palace, Watford etc have managed to do it.
But most importantly I want us to just be a stable club that is competitive and punching well at the level we should be - even if that’s upper Championship.
Ultimately, fans will never be happy with what they have. Some will deny it, but we had many fans who were not 100% happy with us getting consistent mid table finishes in the Premier League under Alan Curbishley.....
All I've EVER wanted is to watch Charlton "on Demand" on a Sunday morning with a full english and a cup of coffee... If we get to the Prem, that is guaranteed, it would mean my life is complete.
In terms of level, well I would LOVE to do a Wolves, obviously we all would, to beat Palace , to get back to being above them, well that would be magic.
being greedy above palace as well it’s beyond embarrassing how far and how long they have been above us , it will prolly take at least 5 years for us to have bigger crowds and away followings , we are currently years behind them .
in all honesty , roland is gone , I’m more than happy for now
Don't care if we have a few seasons between now and 2025 bouncing between 9th-10th and 17th-18th. We have been through so many ups and downs since 2007 so a few seasons in the same division would be a welcome change of pace.
Just to have owners who embrace the fans, understand the history and support the team on a matchday would be a dream.
Understand the sentiment on feeling happy to just settle in the championship for the forseeable future, but I doubt an Abu Dhabi group would buy a club to just stand still in the champ, where you lose money just turning up. Surely their goal must be prem football as soon as the foundations are in place, ie 2-3 years?
Football and financial stability, play off challenger and there after you never know, hopefully a sustained journey we can all enjoy as Addicks into the next decade.
For me I'm not that worries about consistent years in the prem. Its overly commercialised it has lost its heart and soul and its a money/TV dominated league. Sucks the life out of football clubs and fan bases.
Obviously i want to get there but for me its about the journey not the destination. Winning the championship or going up through the playoffs. Would love that and those are the years people remember and talk about rather than a lower mid table prem season. Obviously a year in the prem would sort us out financially for a good few years (as long as we are wise with it) but I really wouldn't be worried about staying up - I would just enjoy the ride. Love to see the valley sold out and some of the big teams vising as well as some top class away days.
In reality I would take us slowly building as a club. Improving facilities at the valley and sparrows lane, improving the academy, improving the medical and analytical departments etc. setting the groundwork for growing as a club. Alongside that astute signings of young upcoming players for reasonable fees who can grow with the club. Build a group of players who know what Charlton means and will give their all for the club. Challenge for the playoffs and promotion but not go all or nothing for it.
I don't really care much beyond Bowyer and Gallen still being here and backed financially by our owners, and perhaps a Category 1 academy, with much of the same personnel.
Given the fantastic football people we have at the Club, it's been an enjoyable last season and a half at the very least. Youth products have rather blossomed; recruitment has been excellent; and we play some really attractive football.
If we have backing from our new owners to build upon a nascent and exciting club philosophy that Bowyer et al engender - then that's easily good enough for me, immaterial of what division.
Ideally a Premier League club. We know we are capable of it considering the likes of Bournemouth, Palace, Watford etc have managed to do it.
But most importantly I want us to just be a stable club that is competitive and punching well at the level we should be - even if that’s upper Championship.
Ultimately, fans will never be happy with what they have. Some will deny it, but we had many fans who were not 100% happy with us getting consistent mid table finishes in the Premier League under Alan Curbishley.....
Exactly.
For example...a lot of man city fans don't quite feel emotionally connected to their club anymore, because they are now very successful.
It shouldn't be like that. When your a fan, you might as well always back the club that you support...whether you are doing well or not so well. There is no need to simply just rely on being the underdog. I think it's partly just how us Brits see things.
3/4 years ago was pretty much the peak of when us fans may have openly admitted that we have lost an emotional connection with the club. Winning games didn't quite feel the same as it had done before. It didn't really actually feel like Charlton. It was a confusing and harsh, negligent period.
I'd like to beat the Spanners and Nigels and challenge. TBH the more important things are that 1. We're like a normal club again with ambition to do better 2. We have a good management team and players who are greater than the sum of their parts (like we do at the moment) 3. We do things the right way (so not a fan of "selling the stadium to the owner" type scams) 4. We are engaged with our local community and actively support things like the Upbeats, Red Black and White day, etc. 5. We have enough of a squad to take cups seriously.
Obviously, it'd be good to go up but I'd settle for some stability. Staying up is still our priority, though I'm significantly more confident it'll happen.
But you need promotion to get the players good enough to win a cup. For me this is the main reason to get into the prem and it still grates with me that we didn't take advantage of it before.
No need to up the player budget drastically. It will disrupt things too much and interfere with what Bowyer is trying to achieve. A few players from in and around the championship that won't break the bank and will make us stronger.
For me it's all about marginal gains and money could help with that. Maybe flights up to the more distant fixtures. Top nutritionists. High level performance monitoring. That kind of thing
For me I'm not that worries about consistent years in the prem. Its overly commercialised it has lost its heart and soul and its a money/TV dominated league. Sucks the life out of football clubs and fan bases.
Obviously i want to get there but for me its about the journey not the destination. Winning the championship or going up through the playoffs. Would love that and those are the years people remember and talk about rather than a lower mid table prem season. Obviously a year in the prem would sort us out financially for a good few years (as long as we are wise with it) but I really wouldn't be worried about staying up - I would just enjoy the ride. Love to see the valley sold out and some of the big teams vising as well as some top class away days.
In reality I would take us slowly building as a club. Improving facilities at the valley and sparrows lane, improving the academy, improving the medical and analytical departments etc. setting the groundwork for growing as a club. Alongside that astute signings of young upcoming players for reasonable fees who can grow with the club. Build a group of players who know what Charlton means and will give their all for the club. Challenge for the playoffs and promotion but not go all or nothing for it.
This for me. Watched Saints v Watford the other day and it brought back horrible memories of not winning for weeks on end, glory seeker fans and Hasselbank et al
I’d take becoming competitive / strong in the championship but I want trophies and a total transformation into a hugely successful club
Sure when have we ever been a trophy winning club -even when in the old First Division OR the Premier League? Not in our DNA mate. Now, play-off finals, that's a different matter!
The glory seeker fans element is something that would irk me in the Premier League. It’s similar to football for a fiver games when the seats around you end up occupied by idiots who bang on about Arsenal, Spurs etc.
We had a lot of those types of fans at Charlton the last time we were in the Premier League.
The glory seeker fans element is something that would irk me in the Premier League. It’s similar to football for a fiver games when the seats around you end up occupied by idiots who bang on about Arsenal, Spurs etc.
We had a lot of those types of fans at Charlton the last time we were in the Premier League.
i'd take them over sitting in acres of space in an 80% empty stadium, watching Andrew Crofts et al - having said that i'm in the best block in the north upper so no room even now for johnny come lateleys
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But most importantly I want us to just be a stable club that is competitive and punching well at the level we should be - even if that’s upper Championship.
Ultimately, fans will never be happy with what they have. Some will deny it, but we had many fans who were not 100% happy with us getting consistent mid table finishes in the Premier League under Alan Curbishley.....
In terms of level, well I would LOVE to do a Wolves, obviously we all would, to beat Palace , to get back to being above them, well that would be magic.
Top ten Prem - but it feels like a dream.
being greedy above palace as well
it’s beyond embarrassing how far and how long they have been above us , it will prolly take at least 5 years for us to have bigger crowds and away followings ,
we are currently years behind them .
in all honesty , roland is gone , I’m more than happy for now
Stay in bed.
That's it.
Obviously i want to get there but for me its about the journey not the destination. Winning the championship or going up through the playoffs. Would love that and those are the years people remember and talk about rather than a lower mid table prem season. Obviously a year in the prem would sort us out financially for a good few years (as long as we are wise with it) but I really wouldn't be worried about staying up - I would just enjoy the ride. Love to see the valley sold out and some of the big teams vising as well as some top class away days.
In reality I would take us slowly building as a club. Improving facilities at the valley and sparrows lane, improving the academy, improving the medical and analytical departments etc. setting the groundwork for growing as a club. Alongside that astute signings of young upcoming players for reasonable fees who can grow with the club. Build a group of players who know what Charlton means and will give their all for the club. Challenge for the playoffs and promotion but not go all or nothing for it.
Given the fantastic football people we have at the Club, it's been an enjoyable last season and a half at the very least. Youth products have rather blossomed; recruitment has been excellent; and we play some really attractive football.
If we have backing from our new owners to build upon a nascent and exciting club philosophy that Bowyer et al engender - then that's easily good enough for me, immaterial of what division.
Ideally, a squad with enough quality performances to fill the stadium every game and premiership football.
We don't want a load of greedy players who will screw the club over, but a mixture of our own academy talent with some good decent signings as well.
A few good cup runs would also be a great thing.
Leicester are the role model we should seek to emulate
- Fix up Sparrows Lane.
- Get promoted
- Double over Palace
- Survive in the PL
Exactly.
For example...a lot of man city fans don't quite feel emotionally connected to their club anymore, because they are now very successful.
It shouldn't be like that. When your a fan, you might as well always back the club that you support...whether you are doing well or not so well.
There is no need to simply just rely on being the underdog. I think it's partly just how us Brits see things.
3/4 years ago was pretty much the peak of when us fans may have openly admitted that we have lost an emotional connection with the club. Winning games didn't quite feel the same as it had done before. It didn't really actually feel like Charlton.
It was a confusing and harsh, negligent period.
We've 100% got our Charlton back now though.
It all just is what it is.
1. We're like a normal club again with ambition to do better
2. We have a good management team and players who are greater than the sum of their parts (like we do at the moment)
3. We do things the right way (so not a fan of "selling the stadium to the owner" type scams)
4. We are engaged with our local community and actively support things like the Upbeats, Red Black and White day, etc.
5. We have enough of a squad to take cups seriously.
Obviously, it'd be good to go up but I'd settle for some stability. Staying up is still our priority, though I'm significantly more confident it'll happen.
A few players from in and around the championship that won't break the bank and will make us stronger.
For me it's all about marginal gains and money could help with that. Maybe flights up to the more distant fixtures. Top nutritionists. High level performance monitoring. That kind of thing
We had a lot of those types of fans at Charlton the last time we were in the Premier League.