Ive never understood the hate for Man Utd tbh. Yes they have a lot of fans who refuse to attend games and pretend their experts. But no more than Liverpool do.
Also unlike Liverpool and Arsenal, actual Man Utd fans who attend games are decent and aren't arrogant and deluded. Always got the impression that if I told a Man Utd fan in a pub in Manchester I was a Charlton fan, they wouldn't give me a look of total disdain and would be very chatty.
Their biggest mistake they made was not picking the right successor to Ferguson. Been on the decline since. Getting Everton into the top 6/7 most seasons and not winning a trophy, is not something a club like Man Utd should be looking for when replacing Ferguson.
Agree they messed up with Fergie's replacement but im sure Fergie himself had some say in it, or maybe im wrong? They have always had excellent support, especially away from home, and make a good atmosphere. Also they have never been afraid to promote players from their academy and give them a chance. Will Ole be given time? Who knows. I hope they give him a chance to rebuild the squad, get rid of the showboat players and start playing how they used to play with wingers and pace.
He won’t be given time because they can’t afford to. If he gets through until next season start I’d be amazed and if he does then he will be gone by Christmas unless they are right there.
He deserves more time from the owners based purely on the fact they got rid of Lukaku and Alexis Sanchez and didn't give him a replacement for either. Can't imagine too many other top clubs doing that.
Erm... Tottenham? We don't have a fit centre-forward at the club now Kane is injured and Levy never replaced Vincent Jansen or Bobby Soldado?
Le Havre complained to FIFA about United signing him saying that he was under contract to them. When he did the same to United and left on a free, Ferguson accused Pogba of disrespecting Manchester United, saying "It is disappointing. I don't think he showed us any respect at all, to be honest. I'm quite happy that if they [footballers] carry on that way, they're probably better doing it away from us."
I said it at the time but why would you then pay £89m for a player who had shown no loyalty and who previously walked out on you for nothing? To put that in perspective, he previous season City paid a combined fee of £99m for KDB and Sterling.
Strange one really. They ended last season superbly, but can't get going this season. The win at Newcastle is the only time they've played well in the league and i can't remember the last time they started the season without winning any of their first 4 home games.
Yet they go and win away at PSG and then smash RB Leipzig 5-0.
Pogba is a disgrace. Does not look bothered in the least. At times it seems like he's making a conscious effort to show he's not into it
Agreed. They need to cut their losses and sell him to whoever will have him. 90m and 300k a week for a guy who plays well in about 6-7 games a season isn't worth keeping around.
Shift him out and get in someone who actually wants to be there.
I think they should keep Ole until the end of the season, then they'll have achieved the never-to-be-repeated double of relegation and the European Cup.
I feel, as previously mentioned, that Man Utd's issues run a lot deeper than Ole - with recruitment, or at least the amount spent on certain players, being especially poor.
That being said, with the squad and talent they still have, they should be doing a lot better than this.
I met a senior exec at Adidas on a Business Networking event 2-3 years ago. He was quite open about the fact you don’t sign an £800m shirt deal without some control.
Who is Pogba sponsored by?
Why have Man Utd been linked with Bale in every transfer window?
You could put any manager in at Utd and they will fail. The only interest their board has is to artificially inflate the stock price of a dying brand.
I met a senior exec at Adidas on a Business Networking event 2-3 years ago. He was quite open about the fact you don’t sign an £800m shirt deal without some control.
Who is Pogba sponsored by?
Why have Man Utd been linked with Bale in every transfer window?
You could put any manager in at Utd and they will fail. The only interest their board has is to artificially inflate the stock price of a dying brand.
Is it a dying brand though? After Real Madrid and Barcelona they're the next biggest/richest club in the world.
I met a senior exec at Adidas on a Business Networking event 2-3 years ago. He was quite open about the fact you don’t sign an £800m shirt deal without some control.
Who is Pogba sponsored by?
Why have Man Utd been linked with Bale in every transfer window?
You could put any manager in at Utd and they will fail. The only interest their board has is to artificially inflate the stock price of a dying brand.
Is it a dying brand though? After Real Madrid and Barcelona they're the next biggest/richest club in the world.
I met a senior exec at Adidas on a Business Networking event 2-3 years ago. He was quite open about the fact you don’t sign an £800m shirt deal without some control.
Who is Pogba sponsored by?
Why have Man Utd been linked with Bale in every transfer window?
You could put any manager in at Utd and they will fail. The only interest their board has is to artificially inflate the stock price of a dying brand.
Is it a dying brand though? After Real Madrid and Barcelona they're the next biggest/richest club in the world.
They used to be THE biggest club commercially.
True but to still be the biggest club outside of the big 2 in Spain, 7 years after Fergie left and without any real success in that time is still a strong achievement, and hardly a dying brand.
When Messi leaves Barca, their value will surely plummet.
I met a senior exec at Adidas on a Business Networking event 2-3 years ago. He was quite open about the fact you don’t sign an £800m shirt deal without some control.
Who is Pogba sponsored by?
Why have Man Utd been linked with Bale in every transfer window?
You could put any manager in at Utd and they will fail. The only interest their board has is to artificially inflate the stock price of a dying brand.
Is it a dying brand though? After Real Madrid and Barcelona they're the next biggest/richest club in the world.
They used to be THE biggest club commercially.
True but to still be the biggest club outside of the big 2 in Spain, 7 years after Fergie left and without any real success in that time is still a strong achievement, and hardly a dying brand.
When Messi leaves Barca, their value will surely plummet.
Man Utd have always been massive but have been in decline since Fergie left, thats whereI think the term dying brand comes from.
Yes, the same will go for Barca once Messi leaves (I think the decline has already started tbh)
I met a senior exec at Adidas on a Business Networking event 2-3 years ago. He was quite open about the fact you don’t sign an £800m shirt deal without some control.
Who is Pogba sponsored by?
Why have Man Utd been linked with Bale in every transfer window?
You could put any manager in at Utd and they will fail. The only interest their board has is to artificially inflate the stock price of a dying brand.
Is it a dying brand though? After Real Madrid and Barcelona they're the next biggest/richest club in the world.
They used to be THE biggest club commercially.
True but to still be the biggest club outside of the big 2 in Spain, 7 years after Fergie left and without any real success in that time is still a strong achievement, and hardly a dying brand.
When Messi leaves Barca, their value will surely plummet.
Man Utd have always been massive but have been in decline since Fergie left, thats whereI think the term dying brand comes from.
Yes, the same will go for Barca once Messi leaves (I think the decline has already started tbh)
Re Barcelona, you are absolutely spot on. They are in huge financial trouble at the moment, hence why they were happy to let Suatez leave. It wouldn't surprise me at all if they let Messi go as well if someone is prepared to pay big bucks for him.
As regards United, no wonder they wanted to play in a European Super League with no relegation!
I don't think United are far off. They have a good enough squad but haven't found the right balance and tactics for certain eventualities. For me, a decent team that is well organised defensively is too big problem for them to break down. They need to solve that.
His was a ridiculous appointment in the first place and I think his 'survival' has been because .. a) If the Glaziers sack/sacked him it will/would mean a big 'loss of face' so soon after sacking Moyes and .. b) their Tampa Bay US football team is doing so well (so far) they are perhaps happy that they are having some success.
The thing is, who would be able to control and organise the prima donna millionaires posing as footballers who are on the Man U books ? Perhaps they should offer Didier Deschamps a salary he can't refuse to try and get the famous but struggling club back in shape. After 8 years in charge of the successful French national team, he might just be ready for a new challenge, or perhaps not ((:>)
I don't think United are far off. They have a good enough squad but haven't found the right balance and tactics for certain eventualities. For me, a decent team that is well organised defensively is too big problem for them to break down. They need to solve that.
Disagree with you about Utd. IMHO they don't have enough top players in the squad let alone team. Compare this squad to Fergies.
Heard an interview with OGS in talksport this morning. He said last season it took them 9 games to get to 10 points, but they are hopeful of achieving it in 7 games this season - what progress that is! That is a pretty embarrassing statement. I can’t see him being in charge after Christmas if not earlier. They seem to take one step forward and 2 steps back. OGS is well out of his depth.
Strange one really. They ended last season superbly, but can't get going this season. The win at Newcastle is the only time they've played well in the league and i can't remember the last time they started the season without winning any of their first 4 home games.
Yet they go and win away at PSG and then smash RB Leipzig 5-0.
Fernandes is their best player and when he is up for it, they look good. When he isn't or can't get into a game, they look lost.
It's ridiculous that a squad which cost nearly 500 million still relys on one player.
OGS is not forward thinking enough, he looked like he turned up to the game yesterday thinking of playing the same way as midweek, with the same results against a different side. That's not smart enough, you barely get away with that when playing football manager.
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Oh, sorry, you said 'top' club didn't you? Sigh.
That will be his downfall.
Nice timing by Sky that.
Fine organising a counter attack, can't do much else.
As long as it takes Poch to answer the phone.
I said it at the time but why would you then pay £89m for a player who had shown no loyalty and who previously walked out on you for nothing? To put that in perspective, he previous season City paid a combined fee of £99m for KDB and Sterling.
Yet they go and win away at PSG and then smash RB Leipzig 5-0.
Shift him out and get in someone who actually wants to be there.
That being said, with the squad and talent they still have, they should be doing a lot better than this.
Who is Pogba sponsored by?
Why have Man Utd been linked with Bale in every transfer window?
You could put any manager in at Utd and they will fail. The only interest their board has is to artificially inflate the stock price of a dying brand.
When Messi leaves Barca, their value will surely plummet.
Yes, the same will go for Barca once Messi leaves (I think the decline has already started tbh)
As regards United, no wonder they wanted to play in a European Super League with no relegation!
The thing is, who would be able to control and organise the prima donna millionaires posing as footballers who are on the Man U books ? Perhaps they should offer Didier Deschamps a salary he can't refuse to try and get the famous but struggling club back in shape. After 8 years in charge of the successful French national team, he might just be ready for a new challenge, or perhaps not ((:>)
It's ridiculous that a squad which cost nearly 500 million still relys on one player.
OGS is not forward thinking enough, he looked like he turned up to the game yesterday thinking of playing the same way as midweek, with the same results against a different side. That's not smart enough, you barely get away with that when playing football manager.
Pogba embodies everything wrong with united.
About 3 minutes?
:-(