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  • Must check out my old singles...Sugar Pie Desanto - was that her name?
    yes
  • Solidgone said:
    Still dads dancing to good sounds. 
    but what do good sounds have to do with fancy dress ?
  • Solidgone said:
    Still dads dancing to good sounds. 
    but what do good sounds have to do with fancy dress ?
    A throwback to the 1960’s and wearing Looms. 
  • One of my favourite all time tracks
  • I’m doing caister soul Weekender next May with some pals, this old Elvis fan/rockabilly might look out of place, but I do like the music 
  • always been a fan of N S .. generally smoother, gentler than the 'soul music chart toppers' like Aretha, Otis the Isleys etc .. was the precursor in my opinion to Ibiza style dance/trance .. repetitive paced music and rhythms to keep the dancers on the floor
  • Solidgone said:
    Solidgone said:
    Still dads dancing to good sounds. 
    but what do good sounds have to do with fancy dress ?
    A throwback to the 1960’s and wearing Looms. 
    Really ? They'd look pretty silly wearing one of these 

     https://www.woolcouturecompany.com/product/woolly-weaving-loom-kit/?attribute_kit-type=Loom+Only&gclid=EAIaIQobChMI4KCt_NiU5AIVhrHtCh3NogGYEAQYBSABEgK56vD_BwE  
    :-)

    No doubt you meant loons :-)

    Loons are totally different from the bags favoured by Northern soulers of the 70s & the Northern scene being a progression (musically) from the mod thing they wouldn't be seen dead in the hippy loons. A lot of the kids started wearing bags as they were easier to do back drops, splits, general floor work in & they became a uniform in the 70s (& of course in the early 70s bags were fashionable nation wide ) & that's where they should have stayed. Fat 60 year olds in bags above their ankles for fuck sake. Dear oh dear
  • Solidgone said:
    Solidgone said:
    Still dads dancing to good sounds. 
    but what do good sounds have to do with fancy dress ?
    A throwback to the 1960’s and wearing Looms. 
    Really ? They'd look pretty silly wearing one of these 

     https://www.woolcouturecompany.com/product/woolly-weaving-loom-kit/?attribute_kit-type=Loom+Only&gclid=EAIaIQobChMI4KCt_NiU5AIVhrHtCh3NogGYEAQYBSABEgK56vD_BwE  
    :-)

    No doubt you meant loons :-)

    Loons are totally different from the bags favoured by Northern soulers of the 70s & the Northern scene being a progression (musically) from the mod thing they wouldn't be seen dead in the hippy loons. A lot of the kids started wearing bags as they were easier to do back drops, splits, general floor work in & they became a uniform in the 70s (& of course in the early 70s bags were fashionable nation wide ) & that's where they should have stayed. Fat 60 year olds in bags above their ankles for fuck sake. Dear oh dear
    Oi one day you will be 60 ! Don't knock people who get out and have a life, instead of sitting in acting their age. They are to be admired not ridiculed. 
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  • Solidgone said:
    Solidgone said:
    Still dads dancing to good sounds. 
    but what do good sounds have to do with fancy dress ?
    A throwback to the 1960’s and wearing Looms. 
    Really ? They'd look pretty silly wearing one of these 

     https://www.woolcouturecompany.com/product/woolly-weaving-loom-kit/?attribute_kit-type=Loom+Only&gclid=EAIaIQobChMI4KCt_NiU5AIVhrHtCh3NogGYEAQYBSABEgK56vD_BwE  
    :-)

    No doubt you meant loons :-)

    Loons are totally different from the bags favoured by Northern soulers of the 70s & the Northern scene being a progression (musically) from the mod thing they wouldn't be seen dead in the hippy loons. A lot of the kids started wearing bags as they were easier to do back drops, splits, general floor work in & they became a uniform in the 70s (& of course in the early 70s bags were fashionable nation wide ) & that's where they should have stayed. Fat 60 year olds in bags above their ankles for fuck sake. Dear oh dear
    Oi one day you will be 60 ! Don't knock people who get out and have a life, instead of sitting in acting their age. They are to be admired not ridiculed. 
    I suppose it’s good arobics. 
  • Solidgone said:
    Solidgone said:
    Still dads dancing to good sounds. 
    but what do good sounds have to do with fancy dress ?
    A throwback to the 1960’s and wearing Looms. 
    Really ? They'd look pretty silly wearing one of these 

     https://www.woolcouturecompany.com/product/woolly-weaving-loom-kit/?attribute_kit-type=Loom+Only&gclid=EAIaIQobChMI4KCt_NiU5AIVhrHtCh3NogGYEAQYBSABEgK56vD_BwE  
    :-)

    No doubt you meant loons :-)

    Loons are totally different from the bags favoured by Northern soulers of the 70s & the Northern scene being a progression (musically) from the mod thing they wouldn't be seen dead in the hippy loons. A lot of the kids started wearing bags as they were easier to do back drops, splits, general floor work in & they became a uniform in the 70s (& of course in the early 70s bags were fashionable nation wide ) & that's where they should have stayed. Fat 60 year olds in bags above their ankles for fuck sake. Dear oh dear
    Oi one day you will be 60 ! Don't knock people who get out and have a life, instead of sitting in acting their age. They are to be admired not ridiculed. 
    I'm 65 & fat & I go to Northern Soul events as I have ever since 1972 but don't feel the need to wear fancy dress when i go out. It doesn't make me a better dancer, it doesn't allow me to enter a time warp & return to Wigan Casino. it would just make me look like I shop in the dark.
  • always been a fan of N S .. generally smoother, gentler than the 'soul music chart toppers' like Aretha, Otis the Isleys etc .. was the precursor in my opinion to Ibiza style dance/trance .. repetitive paced music and rhythms to keep the dancers on the floor
    Really ??? You're listening to the wrong stuff It certainly can be but by & large it's rougher & a bit raw around the edges. here's the C.O.D's https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BGKM7eCV7Tw
  • always been a fan of N S .. generally smoother, gentler than the 'soul music chart toppers' like Aretha, Otis the Isleys etc .. was the precursor in my opinion to Ibiza style dance/trance .. repetitive paced music and rhythms to keep the dancers on the floor
    Really ??? You're listening to the wrong stuff It certainly can be but by & large it's rougher & a bit raw around the edges. here's the C.O.D's https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BGKM7eCV7Tw
    Agree. And also disagree about it being a precursor to the Ibiza style dance. The precursor to that was old school house and the precursor to old school house music was disco. 
  • DA9 said:
    I’m doing caister soul Weekender next May with some pals, this old Elvis fan/rockabilly might look out of place, but I do like the music 
    Caister was always jazz / Funk though ? I really can't imagine they will be playing any Northern
  • DA9 said:
    I’m doing caister soul Weekender next May with some pals, this old Elvis fan/rockabilly might look out of place, but I do like the music 
    Caister was always jazz / Funk though ? I really can't imagine they will be playing any Northern
    I can’t comment obviously, as never been, but one of the fellas I am going with is a regular, and he says they play some northern soul and Motown 
  • edited August 2019
    Northern soul was skinhead wide trousered  high buttoned escape from industrial drudgery.  They were sober if you can call weekend long speed binges sober and in that they were related to the later rave scene, also all about amphetamine / mdma and rejecting alcohol.  For purely practical reasons.  you couldn't dance all night if you were pissed.

    https://youtu.be/7X2gz62eVx0

    https://youtu.be/7Ygo4FbVluI
  • Northern soul was skinhead wide trousered  high buttoned escape from industrial drudgery.  They were sober if you can call weekend long speed binges sober and in that they were related to the later rave scene, also all about amphetamine / mdma and rejecting alcohol.  For purely practical reasons.  you couldn't dance all night if you were pissed.

    https://youtu.be/7X2gz62eVx0

    https://youtu.be/7Ygo4FbVluI
    Some of the female moves very similar to rockabilly dance moves 
  • DA9 said:
    DA9 said:
    I’m doing caister soul Weekender next May with some pals, this old Elvis fan/rockabilly might look out of place, but I do like the music 
    Caister was always jazz / Funk though ? I really can't imagine they will be playing any Northern
    I can’t comment obviously, as never been, but one of the fellas I am going with is a regular, and he says they play some northern soul and Motown 
    Ah well times change I guess, back in the mid/late 70s when Caister was probably at it's height with Chris Hill at the helm you wouldn't have heard any Northern & rightly so Caister was a Jazz Funk night & never the twain should meet ...... except one hilarious all dayer at Reading Top Rank about 76/77. Northern was downstairs in the main room & jazz funk was upstairs in a smaller room. Late afternoon Jazz funkers did a conga down into the main room, chris hill took to the stage, took off the Northern record playing (should of been lynched for that) & said over the mic some shit like "we're all into soul lets dance together" (ooh how lovely) & then stuck on not a soul record but Space Magic Fly which as you probably know is some dreadful Euro electro disco record. With this a character known as Cockney Mick (from darkest Windsor) who may have been the DJ whose record was taken off grabbed the mic & said you can fuck right off & grabbed magic fly off the deck & fly it did ............... frisbee like above the heads of a few hundred people across the dance floor. Cue some handbags at dawn type of stuff, pushing & shouting nothing serious & the funkers fucked off back upstairs. Happy days :-)
    I listen to a lot of Jackie Wilson, strikes me that some of his more obscure stuff would  go down well with northern soul crowds, maybe it already does?
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  • DA9 said:
    DA9 said:
    DA9 said:
    I’m doing caister soul Weekender next May with some pals, this old Elvis fan/rockabilly might look out of place, but I do like the music 
    Caister was always jazz / Funk though ? I really can't imagine they will be playing any Northern
    I can’t comment obviously, as never been, but one of the fellas I am going with is a regular, and he says they play some northern soul and Motown 
    Ah well times change I guess, back in the mid/late 70s when Caister was probably at it's height with Chris Hill at the helm you wouldn't have heard any Northern & rightly so Caister was a Jazz Funk night & never the twain should meet ...... except one hilarious all dayer at Reading Top Rank about 76/77. Northern was downstairs in the main room & jazz funk was upstairs in a smaller room. Late afternoon Jazz funkers did a conga down into the main room, chris hill took to the stage, took off the Northern record playing (should of been lynched for that) & said over the mic some shit like "we're all into soul lets dance together" (ooh how lovely) & then stuck on not a soul record but Space Magic Fly which as you probably know is some dreadful Euro electro disco record. With this a character known as Cockney Mick (from darkest Windsor) who may have been the DJ whose record was taken off grabbed the mic & said you can fuck right off & grabbed magic fly off the deck & fly it did ............... frisbee like above the heads of a few hundred people across the dance floor. Cue some handbags at dawn type of stuff, pushing & shouting nothing serious & the funkers fucked off back upstairs. Happy days :-)
    I listen to a lot of Jackie Wilson, strikes me that some of his more obscure stuff would  go down well with northern soul crowds, maybe it already does?
    Yes, great singer.  "Because of you" probably played the most, but you will also here well known numbers like higher and higher.
  • DA9 said:
    DA9 said:
    DA9 said:
    I’m doing caister soul Weekender next May with some pals, this old Elvis fan/rockabilly might look out of place, but I do like the music 
    Caister was always jazz / Funk though ? I really can't imagine they will be playing any Northern
    I can’t comment obviously, as never been, but one of the fellas I am going with is a regular, and he says they play some northern soul and Motown 
    Ah well times change I guess, back in the mid/late 70s when Caister was probably at it's height with Chris Hill at the helm you wouldn't have heard any Northern & rightly so Caister was a Jazz Funk night & never the twain should meet ...... except one hilarious all dayer at Reading Top Rank about 76/77. Northern was downstairs in the main room & jazz funk was upstairs in a smaller room. Late afternoon Jazz funkers did a conga down into the main room, chris hill took to the stage, took off the Northern record playing (should of been lynched for that) & said over the mic some shit like "we're all into soul lets dance together" (ooh how lovely) & then stuck on not a soul record but Space Magic Fly which as you probably know is some dreadful Euro electro disco record. With this a character known as Cockney Mick (from darkest Windsor) who may have been the DJ whose record was taken off grabbed the mic & said you can fuck right off & grabbed magic fly off the deck & fly it did ............... frisbee like above the heads of a few hundred people across the dance floor. Cue some handbags at dawn type of stuff, pushing & shouting nothing serious & the funkers fucked off back upstairs. Happy days :-)
    I listen to a lot of Jackie Wilson, strikes me that some of his more obscure stuff would  go down well with northern soul crowds, maybe it already does?
    Yes, great singer.  "Because of you" probably played the most, but you will also here well known numbers like higher and higher.
    3 days, 1 hour, 30 minutes

    does that get a play?
  • So, the thing that always makes me laugh about "Northern Soul" is that the music wasn't from the north at all.

    Thick norvan munkees.
  • digressing a wee bit.. Last night VERY late on Radio2 (insomniac me) was a bio of Berry Gordy and Motown .. well worth a listen on iPlayer/Sounds .. was narrated by Marshall Chess, son of the Sun Records founder .. or here ..https://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/m0007z0x

    Radio 2 has a Motown weekend, R4 has a weekend devoted to Marcel Proust .. take your pick 
  • DA9 said:
    DA9 said:
    DA9 said:
    DA9 said:
    I’m doing caister soul Weekender next May with some pals, this old Elvis fan/rockabilly might look out of place, but I do like the music 
    Caister was always jazz / Funk though ? I really can't imagine they will be playing any Northern
    I can’t comment obviously, as never been, but one of the fellas I am going with is a regular, and he says they play some northern soul and Motown 
    Ah well times change I guess, back in the mid/late 70s when Caister was probably at it's height with Chris Hill at the helm you wouldn't have heard any Northern & rightly so Caister was a Jazz Funk night & never the twain should meet ...... except one hilarious all dayer at Reading Top Rank about 76/77. Northern was downstairs in the main room & jazz funk was upstairs in a smaller room. Late afternoon Jazz funkers did a conga down into the main room, chris hill took to the stage, took off the Northern record playing (should of been lynched for that) & said over the mic some shit like "we're all into soul lets dance together" (ooh how lovely) & then stuck on not a soul record but Space Magic Fly which as you probably know is some dreadful Euro electro disco record. With this a character known as Cockney Mick (from darkest Windsor) who may have been the DJ whose record was taken off grabbed the mic & said you can fuck right off & grabbed magic fly off the deck & fly it did ............... frisbee like above the heads of a few hundred people across the dance floor. Cue some handbags at dawn type of stuff, pushing & shouting nothing serious & the funkers fucked off back upstairs. Happy days :-)
    I listen to a lot of Jackie Wilson, strikes me that some of his more obscure stuff would  go down well with northern soul crowds, maybe it already does?
    Yes, great singer.  "Because of you" probably played the most, but you will also here well known numbers like higher and higher.
    3 days, 1 hour, 30 minutes

    does that get a play?
    New one to me ?
  • Off_it said:
    So, the thing that always makes me laugh about "Northern Soul" is that the music wasn't from the north at all.

    Thick norvan munkees.

    Think someones looking for a bite 

  • Legend has it that the term Northern Soul was invented by a record shop manager in Soho. When on Saturdays Northern football fans would come into the shop looking to buy obscure soul records that the Southern Jass Funk and Soul fans were not into. These records were parked in a corner of the shop and the Manger said that's the soul the northerners buy, and the Term NORTHERN SOUL was born. 
  •  An the baggy jeans that the Northerners wore were called "Skinners" anybody remember those ... 
  • DA9 said:
    DA9 said:
    DA9 said:
    I’m doing caister soul Weekender next May with some pals, this old Elvis fan/rockabilly might look out of place, but I do like the music 
    Caister was always jazz / Funk though ? I really can't imagine they will be playing any Northern
    I can’t comment obviously, as never been, but one of the fellas I am going with is a regular, and he says they play some northern soul and Motown 
    Ah well times change I guess, back in the mid/late 70s when Caister was probably at it's height with Chris Hill at the helm you wouldn't have heard any Northern & rightly so Caister was a Jazz Funk night & never the twain should meet ...... except one hilarious all dayer at Reading Top Rank about 76/77. Northern was downstairs in the main room & jazz funk was upstairs in a smaller room. Late afternoon Jazz funkers did a conga down into the main room, chris hill took to the stage, took off the Northern record playing (should of been lynched for that) & said over the mic some shit like "we're all into soul lets dance together" (ooh how lovely) & then stuck on not a soul record but Space Magic Fly which as you probably know is some dreadful Euro electro disco record. With this a character known as Cockney Mick (from darkest Windsor) who may have been the DJ whose record was taken off grabbed the mic & said you can fuck right off & grabbed magic fly off the deck & fly it did ............... frisbee like above the heads of a few hundred people across the dance floor. Cue some handbags at dawn type of stuff, pushing & shouting nothing serious & the funkers fucked off back upstairs. Happy days :-)
    I listen to a lot of Jackie Wilson, strikes me that some of his more obscure stuff would  go down well with northern soul crowds, maybe it already does?
    Yes, great singer.  "Because of you" probably played the most, but you will also here well known numbers like higher and higher.
    I'd be very surprised to hear Higher & higher, more of a 60s club sound than Northern (not saying it's never been played) Things you would have heard would be things like I've lost you, Nothing but heartaches which is the B side of the US release of Sweetest feeling (tho some labels were titled Nothing but blue skies which is what he actually sings) I don't want to lose you (Bell boys did a more uptempo version & you would be more likely to hear that out than Jackie) Whispers getting louder, again another version slightly more uptempo by the Isley Brothers which I prefer but both are brilliant. Certainly others these are just off the top of my head + of course there were different songs of his played on the Belgian Popcorn scene which I'll have a think about when I get back tonight.
  • DA9 said:
    DA9 said:
    DA9 said:
    DA9 said:
    I’m doing caister soul Weekender next May with some pals, this old Elvis fan/rockabilly might look out of place, but I do like the music 
    Caister was always jazz / Funk though ? I really can't imagine they will be playing any Northern
    I can’t comment obviously, as never been, but one of the fellas I am going with is a regular, and he says they play some northern soul and Motown 
    Ah well times change I guess, back in the mid/late 70s when Caister was probably at it's height with Chris Hill at the helm you wouldn't have heard any Northern & rightly so Caister was a Jazz Funk night & never the twain should meet ...... except one hilarious all dayer at Reading Top Rank about 76/77. Northern was downstairs in the main room & jazz funk was upstairs in a smaller room. Late afternoon Jazz funkers did a conga down into the main room, chris hill took to the stage, took off the Northern record playing (should of been lynched for that) & said over the mic some shit like "we're all into soul lets dance together" (ooh how lovely) & then stuck on not a soul record but Space Magic Fly which as you probably know is some dreadful Euro electro disco record. With this a character known as Cockney Mick (from darkest Windsor) who may have been the DJ whose record was taken off grabbed the mic & said you can fuck right off & grabbed magic fly off the deck & fly it did ............... frisbee like above the heads of a few hundred people across the dance floor. Cue some handbags at dawn type of stuff, pushing & shouting nothing serious & the funkers fucked off back upstairs. Happy days :-)
    I listen to a lot of Jackie Wilson, strikes me that some of his more obscure stuff would  go down well with northern soul crowds, maybe it already does?
    Yes, great singer.  "Because of you" probably played the most, but you will also here well known numbers like higher and higher.
    3 days, 1 hour, 30 minutes

    does that get a play?
    Just had a listen, can't believe I've never heard that, I would say without a doubt that would of got plays somewhere.

    Great track thanks DA9
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