Speaking of Brazil and Talksport, did you hear the run in he had with newsreader shebahn Aherne this morning? She had a similar spat with Jeff Stelling last week. She makes my teeth itch that woman. Proper anti-English as well. She was getting some serious snipes in during the Euros but because it was about 5 in the morning I doubt many heard them. I've got to the point that whenever I hear her I switch channels.
Remember when she said the Spice Girls are better than the Beatles and Jeff had a bit of a tongue in cheek argument with her, she seemed to completely misread it and got a bit serious throwing in the "60 year old bloke so must be right" line (or similar).
Think she reckons she's in line to get their job as main anchor tbh.
EDIT* Also remember her ribbing Brazil about getting his dog put down. Think there was something in the news at the time about people getting their pets cloned, and she turned on Brazil about his family dog. He said to leave it, but she kept on at him. Tell the mark of a person who'd even ask in the first place, let alone keep on when they've clearly hit a nerve
If anyone tried ribbing me about having my dog put to sleep, they would end up in intensive care - christ she sounds like a poisonous piece of shit (I don’t listen to TalkSport)
Just to clarify, his dog is still alive. However, she asked if, when the time comes, he would consider having "ol' Hugo cloned." He basically told her to stop and that he didn’t want to think about that sort of thing, but she kept pressing, thinking it was funny. Honestly, it was very awkward to listen to her expose herself as having no filter whatsoever—and a little bit heartless.
I'll wager big money that the woman does not own a dog, and if she did, she should know a lot better.
Women’s football has grown impressively over the past 30 years in my individual opinion. However Alan Brazil speaks for ‘most people’ so that’s all right then.
mainly because its financially supported so much by the mens game.
The men’s game is hardly financially independent.
what on earth do you mean? theres no government subsidy, the money earn't from Sky is because it has a market value, and if rich men invest in it its because they know its marketable and popular.
What I mean is that both mens and women's professional football struggle to pay their way without rich individuals putting their money into it. Women in football has grown over my lifetime, for example there are way more women attending matches than there used to be, some of that might be down to the greater acceptance of women playing football.
Just watched the clip not sure what all the fuss is about, he gave an honest opinion as did she.
On a side note, how many of our fans ever attended a Charlton's women's match or look to see their results on a Sunday. Very few I would suggest..
Personally I’ve never gotten into it, but in the same way I’ve never gotten into men’s rugby or F1, just does nothing for me.
I hope that those play it, support and enjoy it continue to see the game grow, but I am completely in that category you point out. I will never go to a women’s game or look out for their results
Personally I am very happy if the club and trust support the boys and girls teams at junior levels as I think we should encourage junior sport. I am not so sure, however, about whether be should be financially supporting our professional women to the detriment of the mens team. I don't think it will ever be self financing, and I question the general supporter interest in the women's team- personally I have very little interest.
Women’s football has grown impressively over the past 30 years in my individual opinion. However Alan Brazil speaks for ‘most people’ so that’s all right then.
mainly because its financially supported so much by the mens game.
The men’s game is hardly financially independent.
what on earth do you mean? theres no government subsidy, the money earn't from Sky is because it has a market value, and if rich men invest in it its because they know its marketable and popular.
What I mean is that both mens and women's professional football struggle to pay their way without rich individuals putting their money into it. Women in football has grown over my lifetime, for example there are way more women attending matches than there used to be, some of that might be down to the greater acceptance of women playing football.
So I think you are saying that both mens and womens football are in general loss making, but that the mens side should still in addition have to financially support the womens teams?
Women’s football has grown impressively over the past 30 years in my individual opinion. However Alan Brazil speaks for ‘most people’ so that’s all right then.
mainly because its financially supported so much by the mens game.
I’m amazed he’s allowed to voice his opinion cos if you said that on sky you would never work on tv again as it’s now apparently illegal to not like or criticise Women’s football.
I’m amazed he’s allowed to voice his opinion cos if you said that on sky you would never work on tv again as it’s now apparently illegal to not like or criticise Women’s football.
I don’t believe that to be an accurate representation of the law.
Women’s football has grown impressively over the past 30 years in my individual opinion. However Alan Brazil speaks for ‘most people’ so that’s all right then.
mainly because its financially supported so much by the mens game.
The men’s game is hardly financially independent.
what on earth do you mean? theres no government subsidy, the money earn't from Sky is because it has a market value, and if rich men invest in it its because they know its marketable and popular.
What I mean is that both mens and women's professional football struggle to pay their way without rich individuals putting their money into it. Women in football has grown over my lifetime, for example there are way more women attending matches than there used to be, some of that might be down to the greater acceptance of women playing football.
So I think you are saying that both mens and womens football are in general loss making, but that the mens side should still in addition have to financially support the womens teams?
If the club are so minded yeah. It is a case of decisions as to how you deploy resources.
I think if you stop people being honest about things like women's football, then you are demeaning it yourself. I don't watch it but acknowledge loads of people do. However I do enjoy women's cricket, whereas other fan's of the game might not.
To be fair, I make Brazil right. Not sure what relevance the women’s team has when discussing the malaise with the Man U men’s team and the running of the club
I’m amazed he’s allowed to voice his opinion cos if you said that on sky you would never work on tv again as it’s now apparently illegal to not like or criticise Women’s football.
You just have to remember the golden rules when commenting on Womans football.
1. Never ever criticise a player performance
2. If the attendance is good excellent keep talking about that but never mention the ticket price.
3. If the attendance is bad under no circumstances say this.
4. All pundits on the WSL must have had/have a great career in the Womans game and no one from the men's game can be included. Do not point this out when woman pundits cover a PL game.
5. Once the game has decided who will be SPOTY for a penalty save and subsequent reaction, do not mention the error the keeper made in the same game which cost England winning the comp. or the subsequent errors she made in the same year which cost Team GB qualification to the Olympics.
6. Any bad player behaviour on or off the pitch can never be criticised.
Stick to this and we will be fine, break any of these and you will be told you are a dinosaur
Women’s football has grown impressively over the past 30 years in my individual opinion. However Alan Brazil speaks for ‘most people’ so that’s all right then.
mainly because its financially supported so much by the mens game.
Too true…..another thing is that it’s only a matter of time before they start asking for wages parity.
I’m amazed he’s allowed to voice his opinion cos if you said that on sky you would never work on tv again as it’s now apparently illegal to not like or criticise Women’s football.
You just have to remember the golden rules when commenting on Womans football.
1. Never ever criticise a player performance
2. If the attendance is good excellent keep talking about that but never mention the ticket price.
3. If the attendance is bad under no circumstances say this.
4. All pundits on the WSL must have had/have a great career in the Womans game and no one from the men's game can be included. Do not point this out when woman pundits cover a PL game.
5. Once the game has decided who will be SPOTY for a penalty save and subsequent reaction, do not mention the error the keeper made in the same game which cost England winning the comp. or the subsequent errors she made in the same year which cost Team GB qualification to the Olympics.
6. Any bad player behaviour on or off the pitch can never be criticised.
Stick to this and we will be fine, break any of these and you will be told you are a dinosaur
And don’t forget, there should be salary parity (99% of women footballers will have to work once their football career is over which is a disgrace) and all women’s top flight teams should be funded to have under soil heating.
Women’s football has grown impressively over the past 30 years in my individual opinion. However Alan Brazil speaks for ‘most people’ so that’s all right then.
mainly because its financially supported so much by the mens game.
Too true…..another thing is that it’s only a matter of time before they start asking for wages parity.
Women’s football has grown impressively over the past 30 years in my individual opinion. However Alan Brazil speaks for ‘most people’ so that’s all right then.
mainly because its financially supported so much by the mens game.
Too true…..another thing is that it’s only a matter of time before they start asking for wages parity.
I think thats fine, if the money comes only from that generated within the women's game, without subsidy. If enough people want to pay full ticket price, in a stadium where they are fully contributing to its cost and upkeep and with their own sponsorship deals (not piggy-backing off a donor club) then excellent.
The international wages may be made comparable because of the attendances, but again, you are looking at subsidised tickets at £40 compared to £80, so someone will need to bear the loss.
I’m amazed he’s allowed to voice his opinion cos if you said that on sky you would never work on tv again as it’s now apparently illegal to not like or criticise Women’s football.
You just have to remember the golden rules when commenting on Womans football.
1. Never ever criticise a player performance
2. If the attendance is good excellent keep talking about that but never mention the ticket price.
3. If the attendance is bad under no circumstances say this.
4. All pundits on the WSL must have had/have a great career in the Womans game and no one from the men's game can be included. Do not point this out when woman pundits cover a PL game.
5. Once the game has decided who will be SPOTY for a penalty save and subsequent reaction, do not mention the error the keeper made in the same game which cost England winning the comp. or the subsequent errors she made in the same year which cost Team GB qualification to the Olympics.
6. Any bad player behaviour on or off the pitch can never be criticised.
Stick to this and we will be fine, break any of these and you will be told you are a dinosaur
The fact that the fixtures for all the sides playing football in the English pyramid, are broken up by other competitions. Usually by the SPL but also on occasion by women's football.
Everyone here is clearly waiting with baited breath for my take on the Alan Brazil issue, which no doubt will be more eloquent, intelligent and nuanced than everyone else's here. So i will deliver it.
Alan Brazil is more than likely right in the sentiment that most Man U fans and general fans don't greatly care about the women's team, this is quantifiability true by looking at viewing figures, attendances, social media interactions etc, etc.
However, what he doesn't seem to understand is that the point of putting them together isn't to say the WSL is as important to the club as the Premier League but that by putting them together and treating them as high level objectives it can help to grow the women's game which will be beneficial to the women's game and the club. The fact of the matter is the Women's game has suffered because of the success of the Men's game, now i know some knuckle draggers will say "BuT WhY Do NT WoMEN wAtch IT SImPLEs" or "iT's JuST Not AS GooD aS ThE MenS GaME ENd oF!!!!", and of course if you have an IQ in the double digits that would appear to be true but you do have to dig a little deeper -
1) women haven't been watching it because it hasn't been publicised as much in the last 20 years and beyond so you wont change that overnight.
2) It isn't as good as men's football and part of the reason is the lack of funds its received. Isn't it strange how Men's football has got a lot better over the last 30 years since the inception of the Premier league and global money. Perhaps more Women (and Men) would watch it if it got better but to better it needs more money.
Now back to Alan Brazil as said he is right on face value but the point of giving the women's game air time to be spoken about is to increase its value, would talking about it for 5 mins really be that much of a chore ? It just seems a very snowflakey thing to get upset about and make a big deal over someone talking about the women's game.
Returning to talk sport a 'better person' and a much poorer one after being favourite for the MOTD gig which disappeared with flirty texts which made him persona non grata with not only his many employers, (barring talk sport) but also his wife who has seen wealth and fortune disappear over night.
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I'll wager big money that the woman does not own a dog, and if she did, she should know a lot better.
Women in football has grown over my lifetime, for example there are way more women attending matches than there used to be, some of that might be down to the greater acceptance of women playing football.
I hope that those play it, support and enjoy it continue to see the game grow, but I am completely in that category you point out. I will never go to a women’s game or look out for their results
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It is a case of decisions as to how you deploy resources.
1. Never ever criticise a player performance
2. If the attendance is good excellent keep talking about that but never mention the ticket price.
3. If the attendance is bad under no circumstances say this.
4. All pundits on the WSL must have had/have a great career in the Womans game and no one from the men's game can be included. Do not point this out when woman pundits cover a PL game.
5. Once the game has decided who will be SPOTY for a penalty save and subsequent reaction, do not mention the error the keeper made in the same game which cost England winning the comp. or the subsequent errors she made in the same year which cost Team GB qualification to the Olympics.
6. Any bad player behaviour on or off the pitch can never be criticised.
Stick to this and we will be fine, break any of these and you will be told you are a dinosaur
And don’t forget, there should be salary parity (99% of women footballers will have to work once their football career is over which is a disgrace) and all women’s top flight teams should be funded to have under soil heating.
The international wages may be made comparable because of the attendances, but again, you are looking at subsidised tickets at £40 compared to £80, so someone will need to bear the loss.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/scores-fixtures/2025-02-15
The fact that the fixtures for all the sides playing football in the English pyramid, are broken up by other competitions. Usually by the SPL but also on occasion by women's football.
Alan Brazil is more than likely right in the sentiment that most Man U fans and general fans don't greatly care about the women's team, this is quantifiability true by looking at viewing figures, attendances, social media interactions etc, etc.
However, what he doesn't seem to understand is that the point of putting them together isn't to say the WSL is as important to the club as the Premier League but that by putting them together and treating them as high level objectives it can help to grow the women's game which will be beneficial to the women's game and the club. The fact of the matter is the Women's game has suffered because of the success of the Men's game, now i know some knuckle draggers will say "BuT WhY Do NT WoMEN wAtch IT SImPLEs" or "iT's JuST Not AS GooD aS ThE MenS GaME ENd oF!!!!", and of course if you have an IQ in the double digits that would appear to be true but you do have to dig a little deeper -
1) women haven't been watching it because it hasn't been publicised as much in the last 20 years and beyond so you wont change that overnight.
2) It isn't as good as men's football and part of the reason is the lack of funds its received. Isn't it strange how Men's football has got a lot better over the last 30 years since the inception of the Premier league and global money. Perhaps more Women (and Men) would watch it if it got better but to better it needs more money.
Now back to Alan Brazil as said he is right on face value but the point of giving the women's game air time to be spoken about is to increase its value, would talking about it for 5 mins really be that much of a chore ? It just seems a very snowflakey thing to get upset about and make a big deal over someone talking about the women's game.
Returning to talk sport a 'better person' and a much poorer one after being favourite for the MOTD gig which disappeared with flirty texts which made him persona non grata with not only his many employers, (barring talk sport) but also his wife who has seen wealth and fortune disappear over night.