Paraplegic man drags himself through airport
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That's the second time today you've suggested some sort of treatment to a poster on here. It was really classy the first time, too.Lincsaddick said:
mmm in your case it's not a case of childishness, more like senility .. it can be treated if you take action nowShootersHillGuru said:
Grow upLincsaddick said:ShootersHillGuru said:
Sorry. Your initial comment warrants a flag. Not going to withdraw it because it’s not that I disagree with it. ( which I do) it’s because it was a nasty and completely unnecessary thing to write. Quite happy to keep the TWO ridiculous flags you gave me. Ok mate ?Lincsaddick said:
I'll withdraw mine if you withdraw yours .. and by the way I am not your mate .. so next time think twice about 'flagging' in a situation in which you disagree with a valid comment even though it might be one you do not agree with .. you think his actions 'might be valid', I think that is laughable, but you're entitled to itShootersHillGuru said:
So I flag a comment by you and explain why I think it’s nasty and unnecessary and you flag me twice for asking why your first thought was to accuse the disabled man of being a money grabber. Then start accusing me of about waving flags about.Lincsaddick said:ShootersHillGuru said:
I’ll tell you what I think. I think it’s impossible to know the reasons why he chose to make his point the way he did at this point. Maybe they will be valid and maybe he was being awkward.Lincsaddick said:
why worry about what I think of a disabled man refusing help for his issues and making a fuss by dragging himself along as if he were being persecuted .. instead, disclose what you thinkShootersHillGuru said:
I don’t get why that would be the first thing you think to write about this subject.Lincsaddick said:attention seeker after a few quid .. he'll probably reach an out of court settlement to avoid Luton Airport going through expensive and time consuming litigation
My problem and why I flagged you is because you immediately decided quite nastily to brand him an attention seeker and out to make a few quid in an out of court settlement. Despicable comment but that’s just my view.
your view and welcome to it .. keep waving those flags like a good boy scoutShootersHillGuru said:
I’ll tell you what I think. I think it’s impossible to know the reasons why he chose to make his point the way he did at this point. Maybe they will be valid and maybe he was being awkward.Lincsaddick said:
why worry about what I think of a disabled man refusing help for his issues and making a fuss by dragging himself along as if he were being persecuted .. instead, disclose what you thinkShootersHillGuru said:
I don’t get why that would be the first thing you think to write about this subject.Lincsaddick said:attention seeker after a few quid .. he'll probably reach an out of court settlement to avoid Luton Airport going through expensive and time consuming litigation
My problem and why I flagged you is because you immediately decided quite nastily to brand him an attention seeker and out to make a few quid in an out of court settlement. Despicable comment but that’s just my view.
You really are off beam mate.
don't mate me mateShootersHillGuru said:
Sorry. Your initial comment warrants a flag. Not going to withdraw it because it’s not that I disagree with it. ( which I do) it’s because it was a nasty and completely unnecessary thing to write. Quite happy to keep the TWO ridiculous flags you gave me. Ok mate ?Lincsaddick said:
I'll withdraw mine if you withdraw yours .. and by the way I am not your mate .. so next time think twice about 'flagging' in a situation in which you disagree with a valid comment even though it might be one you do not agree with .. you think his actions 'might be valid', I think that is laughable, but you're entitled to itShootersHillGuru said:
So I flag a comment by you and explain why I think it’s nasty and unnecessary and you flag me twice for asking why your first thought was to accuse the disabled man of being a money grabber. Then start accusing me of about waving flags about.Lincsaddick said:ShootersHillGuru said:
I’ll tell you what I think. I think it’s impossible to know the reasons why he chose to make his point the way he did at this point. Maybe they will be valid and maybe he was being awkward.Lincsaddick said:
why worry about what I think of a disabled man refusing help for his issues and making a fuss by dragging himself along as if he were being persecuted .. instead, disclose what you thinkShootersHillGuru said:
I don’t get why that would be the first thing you think to write about this subject.Lincsaddick said:attention seeker after a few quid .. he'll probably reach an out of court settlement to avoid Luton Airport going through expensive and time consuming litigation
My problem and why I flagged you is because you immediately decided quite nastily to brand him an attention seeker and out to make a few quid in an out of court settlement. Despicable comment but that’s just my view.
your view and welcome to it .. keep waving those flags like a good boy scoutShootersHillGuru said:
I’ll tell you what I think. I think it’s impossible to know the reasons why he chose to make his point the way he did at this point. Maybe they will be valid and maybe he was being awkward.Lincsaddick said:
why worry about what I think of a disabled man refusing help for his issues and making a fuss by dragging himself along as if he were being persecuted .. instead, disclose what you thinkShootersHillGuru said:
I don’t get why that would be the first thing you think to write about this subject.Lincsaddick said:attention seeker after a few quid .. he'll probably reach an out of court settlement to avoid Luton Airport going through expensive and time consuming litigation
My problem and why I flagged you is because you immediately decided quite nastily to brand him an attention seeker and out to make a few quid in an out of court settlement. Despicable comment but that’s just my view.
You really are off beam mate.
I'm more on your side of the debate, although I sort of wish I wasn't, just because of association.8 -
if people start to get verbally/typingly aggressive what ever the correct verb is, it suggests to me that they have mental health issues, especially when they make comments that they would not make except in the comfortable anonymity of a chat room .. and as to wishing not to be on 'my side' though grudgingly you are .. suit yourselfAddickted2TheReds said:
That's the second time today you've suggested some sort of treatment to a poster on here. It was really classy the first time, too.Lincsaddick said:
mmm in your case it's not a case of childishness, more like senility .. it can be treated if you take action nowShootersHillGuru said:
Grow upLincsaddick said:ShootersHillGuru said:
Sorry. Your initial comment warrants a flag. Not going to withdraw it because it’s not that I disagree with it. ( which I do) it’s because it was a nasty and completely unnecessary thing to write. Quite happy to keep the TWO ridiculous flags you gave me. Ok mate ?Lincsaddick said:
I'll withdraw mine if you withdraw yours .. and by the way I am not your mate .. so next time think twice about 'flagging' in a situation in which you disagree with a valid comment even though it might be one you do not agree with .. you think his actions 'might be valid', I think that is laughable, but you're entitled to itShootersHillGuru said:
So I flag a comment by you and explain why I think it’s nasty and unnecessary and you flag me twice for asking why your first thought was to accuse the disabled man of being a money grabber. Then start accusing me of about waving flags about.Lincsaddick said:ShootersHillGuru said:
I’ll tell you what I think. I think it’s impossible to know the reasons why he chose to make his point the way he did at this point. Maybe they will be valid and maybe he was being awkward.Lincsaddick said:
why worry about what I think of a disabled man refusing help for his issues and making a fuss by dragging himself along as if he were being persecuted .. instead, disclose what you thinkShootersHillGuru said:
I don’t get why that would be the first thing you think to write about this subject.Lincsaddick said:attention seeker after a few quid .. he'll probably reach an out of court settlement to avoid Luton Airport going through expensive and time consuming litigation
My problem and why I flagged you is because you immediately decided quite nastily to brand him an attention seeker and out to make a few quid in an out of court settlement. Despicable comment but that’s just my view.
your view and welcome to it .. keep waving those flags like a good boy scoutShootersHillGuru said:
I’ll tell you what I think. I think it’s impossible to know the reasons why he chose to make his point the way he did at this point. Maybe they will be valid and maybe he was being awkward.Lincsaddick said:
why worry about what I think of a disabled man refusing help for his issues and making a fuss by dragging himself along as if he were being persecuted .. instead, disclose what you thinkShootersHillGuru said:
I don’t get why that would be the first thing you think to write about this subject.Lincsaddick said:attention seeker after a few quid .. he'll probably reach an out of court settlement to avoid Luton Airport going through expensive and time consuming litigation
My problem and why I flagged you is because you immediately decided quite nastily to brand him an attention seeker and out to make a few quid in an out of court settlement. Despicable comment but that’s just my view.
You really are off beam mate.
don't mate me mateShootersHillGuru said:
Sorry. Your initial comment warrants a flag. Not going to withdraw it because it’s not that I disagree with it. ( which I do) it’s because it was a nasty and completely unnecessary thing to write. Quite happy to keep the TWO ridiculous flags you gave me. Ok mate ?Lincsaddick said:
I'll withdraw mine if you withdraw yours .. and by the way I am not your mate .. so next time think twice about 'flagging' in a situation in which you disagree with a valid comment even though it might be one you do not agree with .. you think his actions 'might be valid', I think that is laughable, but you're entitled to itShootersHillGuru said:
So I flag a comment by you and explain why I think it’s nasty and unnecessary and you flag me twice for asking why your first thought was to accuse the disabled man of being a money grabber. Then start accusing me of about waving flags about.Lincsaddick said:ShootersHillGuru said:
I’ll tell you what I think. I think it’s impossible to know the reasons why he chose to make his point the way he did at this point. Maybe they will be valid and maybe he was being awkward.Lincsaddick said:
why worry about what I think of a disabled man refusing help for his issues and making a fuss by dragging himself along as if he were being persecuted .. instead, disclose what you thinkShootersHillGuru said:
I don’t get why that would be the first thing you think to write about this subject.Lincsaddick said:attention seeker after a few quid .. he'll probably reach an out of court settlement to avoid Luton Airport going through expensive and time consuming litigation
My problem and why I flagged you is because you immediately decided quite nastily to brand him an attention seeker and out to make a few quid in an out of court settlement. Despicable comment but that’s just my view.
your view and welcome to it .. keep waving those flags like a good boy scoutShootersHillGuru said:
I’ll tell you what I think. I think it’s impossible to know the reasons why he chose to make his point the way he did at this point. Maybe they will be valid and maybe he was being awkward.Lincsaddick said:
why worry about what I think of a disabled man refusing help for his issues and making a fuss by dragging himself along as if he were being persecuted .. instead, disclose what you thinkShootersHillGuru said:
I don’t get why that would be the first thing you think to write about this subject.Lincsaddick said:attention seeker after a few quid .. he'll probably reach an out of court settlement to avoid Luton Airport going through expensive and time consuming litigation
My problem and why I flagged you is because you immediately decided quite nastily to brand him an attention seeker and out to make a few quid in an out of court settlement. Despicable comment but that’s just my view.
You really are off beam mate.
I'm more on your side of the debate, although I sort of wish I wasn't, just because of association.3 -
ShootersHillGuru said:
Grow upLincsaddick said:ShootersHillGuru said:
Sorry. Your initial comment warrants a flag. Not going to withdraw it because it’s not that I disagree with it. ( which I do) it’s because it was a nasty and completely unnecessary thing to write. Quite happy to keep the TWO ridiculous flags you gave me. Ok mate ?Lincsaddick said:
I'll withdraw mine if you withdraw yours .. and by the way I am not your mate .. so next time think twice about 'flagging' in a situation in which you disagree with a valid comment even though it might be one you do not agree with .. you think his actions 'might be valid', I think that is laughable, but you're entitled to itShootersHillGuru said:
So I flag a comment by you and explain why I think it’s nasty and unnecessary and you flag me twice for asking why your first thought was to accuse the disabled man of being a money grabber. Then start accusing me of about waving flags about.Lincsaddick said:ShootersHillGuru said:
I’ll tell you what I think. I think it’s impossible to know the reasons why he chose to make his point the way he did at this point. Maybe they will be valid and maybe he was being awkward.Lincsaddick said:
why worry about what I think of a disabled man refusing help for his issues and making a fuss by dragging himself along as if he were being persecuted .. instead, disclose what you thinkShootersHillGuru said:
I don’t get why that would be the first thing you think to write about this subject.Lincsaddick said:attention seeker after a few quid .. he'll probably reach an out of court settlement to avoid Luton Airport going through expensive and time consuming litigation
My problem and why I flagged you is because you immediately decided quite nastily to brand him an attention seeker and out to make a few quid in an out of court settlement. Despicable comment but that’s just my view.
your view and welcome to it .. keep waving those flags like a good boy scoutShootersHillGuru said:
I’ll tell you what I think. I think it’s impossible to know the reasons why he chose to make his point the way he did at this point. Maybe they will be valid and maybe he was being awkward.Lincsaddick said:
why worry about what I think of a disabled man refusing help for his issues and making a fuss by dragging himself along as if he were being persecuted .. instead, disclose what you thinkShootersHillGuru said:
I don’t get why that would be the first thing you think to write about this subject.Lincsaddick said:attention seeker after a few quid .. he'll probably reach an out of court settlement to avoid Luton Airport going through expensive and time consuming litigation
My problem and why I flagged you is because you immediately decided quite nastily to brand him an attention seeker and out to make a few quid in an out of court settlement. Despicable comment but that’s just my view.
You really are off beam mate.
don't mate me mateShootersHillGuru said:
Sorry. Your initial comment warrants a flag. Not going to withdraw it because it’s not that I disagree with it. ( which I do) it’s because it was a nasty and completely unnecessary thing to write. Quite happy to keep the TWO ridiculous flags you gave me. Ok mate ?Lincsaddick said:
I'll withdraw mine if you withdraw yours .. and by the way I am not your mate .. so next time think twice about 'flagging' in a situation in which you disagree with a valid comment even though it might be one you do not agree with .. you think his actions 'might be valid', I think that is laughable, but you're entitled to itShootersHillGuru said:
So I flag a comment by you and explain why I think it’s nasty and unnecessary and you flag me twice for asking why your first thought was to accuse the disabled man of being a money grabber. Then start accusing me of about waving flags about.Lincsaddick said:ShootersHillGuru said:
I’ll tell you what I think. I think it’s impossible to know the reasons why he chose to make his point the way he did at this point. Maybe they will be valid and maybe he was being awkward.Lincsaddick said:
why worry about what I think of a disabled man refusing help for his issues and making a fuss by dragging himself along as if he were being persecuted .. instead, disclose what you thinkShootersHillGuru said:
I don’t get why that would be the first thing you think to write about this subject.Lincsaddick said:attention seeker after a few quid .. he'll probably reach an out of court settlement to avoid Luton Airport going through expensive and time consuming litigation
My problem and why I flagged you is because you immediately decided quite nastily to brand him an attention seeker and out to make a few quid in an out of court settlement. Despicable comment but that’s just my view.
your view and welcome to it .. keep waving those flags like a good boy scoutShootersHillGuru said:
I’ll tell you what I think. I think it’s impossible to know the reasons why he chose to make his point the way he did at this point. Maybe they will be valid and maybe he was being awkward.Lincsaddick said:
why worry about what I think of a disabled man refusing help for his issues and making a fuss by dragging himself along as if he were being persecuted .. instead, disclose what you thinkShootersHillGuru said:
I don’t get why that would be the first thing you think to write about this subject.Lincsaddick said:attention seeker after a few quid .. he'll probably reach an out of court settlement to avoid Luton Airport going through expensive and time consuming litigation
My problem and why I flagged you is because you immediately decided quite nastily to brand him an attention seeker and out to make a few quid in an out of court settlement. Despicable comment but that’s just my view.
You really are off beam mate.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o4gHgViPgfc 5 -
Showing annoyance is a sign of mental health issues? Are you absolutely sure?Lincsaddick said:
if people start to get verbally/typingly aggressive what ever the correct verb is, it suggests to me that they have mental health issues, especially when they make comments that they would not make except in the comfortable anonymity of a chat room .. and as to wishing not to be on 'my side' though grudgingly you are .. suit yourselfAddickted2TheReds said:
That's the second time today you've suggested some sort of treatment to a poster on here. It was really classy the first time, too.Lincsaddick said:
mmm in your case it's not a case of childishness, more like senility .. it can be treated if you take action nowShootersHillGuru said:
Grow upLincsaddick said:ShootersHillGuru said:
Sorry. Your initial comment warrants a flag. Not going to withdraw it because it’s not that I disagree with it. ( which I do) it’s because it was a nasty and completely unnecessary thing to write. Quite happy to keep the TWO ridiculous flags you gave me. Ok mate ?Lincsaddick said:
I'll withdraw mine if you withdraw yours .. and by the way I am not your mate .. so next time think twice about 'flagging' in a situation in which you disagree with a valid comment even though it might be one you do not agree with .. you think his actions 'might be valid', I think that is laughable, but you're entitled to itShootersHillGuru said:
So I flag a comment by you and explain why I think it’s nasty and unnecessary and you flag me twice for asking why your first thought was to accuse the disabled man of being a money grabber. Then start accusing me of about waving flags about.Lincsaddick said:ShootersHillGuru said:
I’ll tell you what I think. I think it’s impossible to know the reasons why he chose to make his point the way he did at this point. Maybe they will be valid and maybe he was being awkward.Lincsaddick said:
why worry about what I think of a disabled man refusing help for his issues and making a fuss by dragging himself along as if he were being persecuted .. instead, disclose what you thinkShootersHillGuru said:
I don’t get why that would be the first thing you think to write about this subject.Lincsaddick said:attention seeker after a few quid .. he'll probably reach an out of court settlement to avoid Luton Airport going through expensive and time consuming litigation
My problem and why I flagged you is because you immediately decided quite nastily to brand him an attention seeker and out to make a few quid in an out of court settlement. Despicable comment but that’s just my view.
your view and welcome to it .. keep waving those flags like a good boy scoutShootersHillGuru said:
I’ll tell you what I think. I think it’s impossible to know the reasons why he chose to make his point the way he did at this point. Maybe they will be valid and maybe he was being awkward.Lincsaddick said:
why worry about what I think of a disabled man refusing help for his issues and making a fuss by dragging himself along as if he were being persecuted .. instead, disclose what you thinkShootersHillGuru said:
I don’t get why that would be the first thing you think to write about this subject.Lincsaddick said:attention seeker after a few quid .. he'll probably reach an out of court settlement to avoid Luton Airport going through expensive and time consuming litigation
My problem and why I flagged you is because you immediately decided quite nastily to brand him an attention seeker and out to make a few quid in an out of court settlement. Despicable comment but that’s just my view.
You really are off beam mate.
don't mate me mateShootersHillGuru said:
Sorry. Your initial comment warrants a flag. Not going to withdraw it because it’s not that I disagree with it. ( which I do) it’s because it was a nasty and completely unnecessary thing to write. Quite happy to keep the TWO ridiculous flags you gave me. Ok mate ?Lincsaddick said:
I'll withdraw mine if you withdraw yours .. and by the way I am not your mate .. so next time think twice about 'flagging' in a situation in which you disagree with a valid comment even though it might be one you do not agree with .. you think his actions 'might be valid', I think that is laughable, but you're entitled to itShootersHillGuru said:
So I flag a comment by you and explain why I think it’s nasty and unnecessary and you flag me twice for asking why your first thought was to accuse the disabled man of being a money grabber. Then start accusing me of about waving flags about.Lincsaddick said:ShootersHillGuru said:
I’ll tell you what I think. I think it’s impossible to know the reasons why he chose to make his point the way he did at this point. Maybe they will be valid and maybe he was being awkward.Lincsaddick said:
why worry about what I think of a disabled man refusing help for his issues and making a fuss by dragging himself along as if he were being persecuted .. instead, disclose what you thinkShootersHillGuru said:
I don’t get why that would be the first thing you think to write about this subject.Lincsaddick said:attention seeker after a few quid .. he'll probably reach an out of court settlement to avoid Luton Airport going through expensive and time consuming litigation
My problem and why I flagged you is because you immediately decided quite nastily to brand him an attention seeker and out to make a few quid in an out of court settlement. Despicable comment but that’s just my view.
your view and welcome to it .. keep waving those flags like a good boy scoutShootersHillGuru said:
I’ll tell you what I think. I think it’s impossible to know the reasons why he chose to make his point the way he did at this point. Maybe they will be valid and maybe he was being awkward.Lincsaddick said:
why worry about what I think of a disabled man refusing help for his issues and making a fuss by dragging himself along as if he were being persecuted .. instead, disclose what you thinkShootersHillGuru said:
I don’t get why that would be the first thing you think to write about this subject.Lincsaddick said:attention seeker after a few quid .. he'll probably reach an out of court settlement to avoid Luton Airport going through expensive and time consuming litigation
My problem and why I flagged you is because you immediately decided quite nastily to brand him an attention seeker and out to make a few quid in an out of court settlement. Despicable comment but that’s just my view.
You really are off beam mate.
I'm more on your side of the debate, although I sort of wish I wasn't, just because of association.0 -
Well that escalated quickly8
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Showing annoyance is a sign of mental health issues? Are you absolutely sure?
another sniper who can't read .. I used the term 'aggressive' not 'annoyance' .. now go sink back to the depths from whence you emerged .. (this string has got so long that the system can't post it)0 -
Carter said:
Well that escalated quickly
problem is on here is that too many of the sensitive souls are incapable of disagreeing with an opinion without making a mountain from a molehill .. too many snipers and keyboard warriors without the wit to form their own opinionCarter said:Well that escalated quickly
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another sniper who can't read .. I used the term 'aggressive' not 'annoyance' .. now go sink back to the depths from whence you emerged .. (this string has got so long that the system can't post it)Lincsaddick said:
Showing annoyance is a sign of mental health issues? Are you absolutely sure?
No 'mate', the trouble is that you don't know the difference between aggression and annoyance.2 -
When you land it takes a while for luggage to come through and stuff, then the aeroplane needs attention, maybe cleaning, fuel, a new crew, safety checks and so on.
It doesn't seem realistic to me that the aeroplane had taken off minutes after it touched down. I don't understand why staff didn't return to the aeroplane and retrieve the wheelchair.
I probably have it wrong regarding the turnaround of the aeroplane, but if the wheelchair was within reach as it were, possibly the bloke was upset because nobody could be arsed to go and get his wheelchair which might not have been that much to ask.1 -
I bloody love this forum.4
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Surely the wheelchair was left at the airport the plane took off from?seth plum said:When you land it takes a while for luggage to come through and stuff, then the aeroplane needs attention, maybe cleaning, fuel, a new crew, safety checks and so on.
It doesn't seem realistic to me that the aeroplane had taken off minutes after it touched down. I don't understand why staff didn't return to the aeroplane and retrieve the wheelchair.
I probably have it wrong regarding the turnaround of the aeroplane, but if the wheelchair was within reach as it were, possibly the bloke was upset because nobody could be arsed to go and get his wheelchair which might not have been that much to ask.2 -
No 'mate', the trouble is that you don't know the difference between aggression and annoyance.Uboat said:
another sniper who can't read .. I used the term 'aggressive' not 'annoyance' .. now go sink back to the depths from whence you emerged .. (this string has got so long that the system can't post it)Lincsaddick said:
Showing annoyance is a sign of mental health issues? Are you absolutely sure?
Or arse and elbow ;0)
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Fair enough then, if he had got on the plane expecting his chair to be in luggage or wherever they keep them, and it wasn't loaded in the first place there is a difficulty.Addickted2TheReds said:
Surely the wheelchair was left at the airport the plane took off from?seth plum said:When you land it takes a while for luggage to come through and stuff, then the aeroplane needs attention, maybe cleaning, fuel, a new crew, safety checks and so on.
It doesn't seem realistic to me that the aeroplane had taken off minutes after it touched down. I don't understand why staff didn't return to the aeroplane and retrieve the wheelchair.
I probably have it wrong regarding the turnaround of the aeroplane, but if the wheelchair was within reach as it were, possibly the bloke was upset because nobody could be arsed to go and get his wheelchair which might not have been that much to ask.
Is that what happened?
Edit, it says it was 'left behind on a flight' which is a bit ambiguous.
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There is nothing good about this story.Henry Irving said:
If Luton Airport provide the type of wheelchairs he wanted to use, as he claims most other airports do, then he and other people with disabilities, are winners.LenGlover said:I feel the bloke's frustration but wonder exactly what else the poor sods who were dropped in it by the incompetent luggage people could do other than offer him an ordinary wheelchair if there was no other type available.
Offer him free use of a hospitality lounge until the lost luggage arrives but how does he get to the lounge?
There are no winners here.
However I can provide a personal perspective on Gatwick, Heathrow and numerous overseas airports.
I have had to use an airport wheelchair frequently over the last couple of years. None of the many airports that I have used provide the type of wheelchair where you can propel yourself. They all have to be wheeled by airport staff.3 -
Used to have a colleague, GB athlete, coached by her disabled father. Nice woman, committed, modest. Her Pa, polar opposite. Seemed to blame the world for his misfortune. Don't think he had a single friend in the world but his daughter. Sad. See similar locally. Fat blokes on 500kg mobility scooters playing chicken with pedestrians at 20mph.
But plenty of sad disabled cases marginalised by Tories and given zero support. Bedroom tax still operating despite Hammond giving more tax breaks to rich than poor after a decade of austerity.1 -
You've done the same before so assume it's okay to suggest you have mental health issues then.Lincsaddick said:
if people start to get verbally/typingly aggressive what ever the correct verb is, it suggests to me that they have mental health issues, especially when they make comments that they would not make except in the comfortable anonymity of a chat room .. and as to wishing not to be on 'my side' though grudgingly you are .. suit yourselfAddickted2TheReds said:
That's the second time today you've suggested some sort of treatment to a poster on here. It was really classy the first time, too.Lincsaddick said:
mmm in your case it's not a case of childishness, more like senility .. it can be treated if you take action nowShootersHillGuru said:
Grow upLincsaddick said:ShootersHillGuru said:
Sorry. Your initial comment warrants a flag. Not going to withdraw it because it’s not that I disagree with it. ( which I do) it’s because it was a nasty and completely unnecessary thing to write. Quite happy to keep the TWO ridiculous flags you gave me. Ok mate ?Lincsaddick said:
I'll withdraw mine if you withdraw yours .. and by the way I am not your mate .. so next time think twice about 'flagging' in a situation in which you disagree with a valid comment even though it might be one you do not agree with .. you think his actions 'might be valid', I think that is laughable, but you're entitled to itShootersHillGuru said:
So I flag a comment by you and explain why I think it’s nasty and unnecessary and you flag me twice for asking why your first thought was to accuse the disabled man of being a money grabber. Then start accusing me of about waving flags about.Lincsaddick said:ShootersHillGuru said:
I’ll tell you what I think. I think it’s impossible to know the reasons why he chose to make his point the way he did at this point. Maybe they will be valid and maybe he was being awkward.Lincsaddick said:
why worry about what I think of a disabled man refusing help for his issues and making a fuss by dragging himself along as if he were being persecuted .. instead, disclose what you thinkShootersHillGuru said:
I don’t get why that would be the first thing you think to write about this subject.Lincsaddick said:attention seeker after a few quid .. he'll probably reach an out of court settlement to avoid Luton Airport going through expensive and time consuming litigation
My problem and why I flagged you is because you immediately decided quite nastily to brand him an attention seeker and out to make a few quid in an out of court settlement. Despicable comment but that’s just my view.
your view and welcome to it .. keep waving those flags like a good boy scoutShootersHillGuru said:
I’ll tell you what I think. I think it’s impossible to know the reasons why he chose to make his point the way he did at this point. Maybe they will be valid and maybe he was being awkward.Lincsaddick said:
why worry about what I think of a disabled man refusing help for his issues and making a fuss by dragging himself along as if he were being persecuted .. instead, disclose what you thinkShootersHillGuru said:
I don’t get why that would be the first thing you think to write about this subject.Lincsaddick said:attention seeker after a few quid .. he'll probably reach an out of court settlement to avoid Luton Airport going through expensive and time consuming litigation
My problem and why I flagged you is because you immediately decided quite nastily to brand him an attention seeker and out to make a few quid in an out of court settlement. Despicable comment but that’s just my view.
You really are off beam mate.
don't mate me mateShootersHillGuru said:
Sorry. Your initial comment warrants a flag. Not going to withdraw it because it’s not that I disagree with it. ( which I do) it’s because it was a nasty and completely unnecessary thing to write. Quite happy to keep the TWO ridiculous flags you gave me. Ok mate ?Lincsaddick said:
I'll withdraw mine if you withdraw yours .. and by the way I am not your mate .. so next time think twice about 'flagging' in a situation in which you disagree with a valid comment even though it might be one you do not agree with .. you think his actions 'might be valid', I think that is laughable, but you're entitled to itShootersHillGuru said:
So I flag a comment by you and explain why I think it’s nasty and unnecessary and you flag me twice for asking why your first thought was to accuse the disabled man of being a money grabber. Then start accusing me of about waving flags about.Lincsaddick said:ShootersHillGuru said:
I’ll tell you what I think. I think it’s impossible to know the reasons why he chose to make his point the way he did at this point. Maybe they will be valid and maybe he was being awkward.Lincsaddick said:
why worry about what I think of a disabled man refusing help for his issues and making a fuss by dragging himself along as if he were being persecuted .. instead, disclose what you thinkShootersHillGuru said:
I don’t get why that would be the first thing you think to write about this subject.Lincsaddick said:attention seeker after a few quid .. he'll probably reach an out of court settlement to avoid Luton Airport going through expensive and time consuming litigation
My problem and why I flagged you is because you immediately decided quite nastily to brand him an attention seeker and out to make a few quid in an out of court settlement. Despicable comment but that’s just my view.
your view and welcome to it .. keep waving those flags like a good boy scoutShootersHillGuru said:
I’ll tell you what I think. I think it’s impossible to know the reasons why he chose to make his point the way he did at this point. Maybe they will be valid and maybe he was being awkward.Lincsaddick said:
why worry about what I think of a disabled man refusing help for his issues and making a fuss by dragging himself along as if he were being persecuted .. instead, disclose what you thinkShootersHillGuru said:
I don’t get why that would be the first thing you think to write about this subject.Lincsaddick said:attention seeker after a few quid .. he'll probably reach an out of court settlement to avoid Luton Airport going through expensive and time consuming litigation
My problem and why I flagged you is because you immediately decided quite nastily to brand him an attention seeker and out to make a few quid in an out of court settlement. Despicable comment but that’s just my view.
You really are off beam mate.
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Yeah, it's like being back at school.AddickUpNorth said:I bloody love this forum.
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Just when you think this thread couldn't get any more stupid! This is not a political thread and is a big red herring!harveys_gardener said:Used to have a colleague, GB athlete, coached by her disabled father. Nice woman, committed, modest. Her Pa, polar opposite. Seemed to blame the world for his misfortune. Don't think he had a single friend in the world but his daughter. Sad. See similar locally. Fat blokes on 500kg mobility scooters playing chicken with pedestrians at 20mph.
But plenty of sad disabled cases marginalised by Tories and given zero support. Bedroom tax still operating despite Hammond giving more tax breaks to rich than poor after a decade of austerity.4 -
LOL even I despise the Tories but that is a classic.
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I agree, those dam Tories. I'm surprised Ian Duncan Smith didn't order the police to shoot the man in the airport for being disabled, along with anyone on benefits. Must have cut the police too much to afford the bullets, those dam evil Tories.harveys_gardener said:Used to have a colleague, GB athlete, coached by her disabled father. Nice woman, committed, modest. Her Pa, polar opposite. Seemed to blame the world for his misfortune. Don't think he had a single friend in the world but his daughter. Sad. See similar locally. Fat blokes on 500kg mobility scooters playing chicken with pedestrians at 20mph.
But plenty of sad disabled cases marginalised by Tories and given zero support. Bedroom tax still operating despite Hammond giving more tax breaks to rich than poor after a decade of austerity.2 -
How on earth you came to the conclusion that he was just looking for a payout BEFORE knowing all the background of why he was protesting Is beyond me.Lincsaddick said:Carter said:Well that escalated quickly
problem is on here is that too many of the sensitive souls are incapable of disagreeing with an opinion without making a mountain from a molehill .. too many snipers and keyboard warriors without the wit to form their own opinionCarter said:Well that escalated quickly
You were pretty harsh in the way you wrote it too.
I thought better of you to be honest.1 -
Bloody hell!! I got 6 'flags' some years ago for saying that I thought NFL and F1 were a 'load of old tosh'! They both are of course (in my opinion) , but 'flag worthy'? Not even chequered either! Gutted.Stig said:Easy with the flags fellas, they aren't for signaling disagreements.
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I (fortunately) do not know the challenges of disability and feel sorry for the guys situation.
If his intent is to raise awareness for availability for suitable equipment in the future then he has achieved this.
However I struggle to see how it is “degrading” to have someone push you in a wheelchair but not degrading for you to drag yourself along an airport floor on your arse and then on a luggage cart.
As others have said - this may be 100% due to his natural competitive nature.....but the talk of suing the airport makes me wonder.4 -
Indeed and to expect airports to have different kinds of wheelchairs is a big ask ( they are not cheap)SuedeAdidas said:I (fortunately) do not know the challenges of disability and feel sorry for the guys situation.
If his intent is to raise awareness for availability for suitable equipment in the future then he has achieved this.
However I struggle to see how it is “degrading” to have someone push you in a wheelchair but not degrading for you to drag yourself along an airport floor on your arse and then on a luggage cart.
As others have said - this may be 100% due to his natural competitive nature.....but the talk of suing the airport makes me wonder.
I wonder he how manages the toilets on board. For a big person they are awkward, for someone with a disability they must be a nightmare.
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Not cost effective in the long term to have to find someone and then pay them to push people around.Baldybonce said:
Indeed and to expect airports to have different kinds of wheelchairs is a big ask ( they are not cheap)SuedeAdidas said:I (fortunately) do not know the challenges of disability and feel sorry for the guys situation.
If his intent is to raise awareness for availability for suitable equipment in the future then he has achieved this.
However I struggle to see how it is “degrading” to have someone push you in a wheelchair but not degrading for you to drag yourself along an airport floor on your arse and then on a luggage cart.
As others have said - this may be 100% due to his natural competitive nature.....but the talk of suing the airport makes me wonder.
I wonder how manages the toilets on board. For a big person they are awkward, for someone with a disability they must be a nightmare.
As and where appropriate a motorised chair should be available for those who prefer them.0 -
A reasonable alternative was offered as a temporary measure. Not ideal, but an suitable option whilst he waited for his chair to be returned. He chose not to take it.
He then chose to drag himself around the airport on his arse with two mates filming him from different angles.
He then talks about suing the airport.
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The air travel industry and airport owners are not short of the cost of half a dozen wheelchairs that would allow a disabled person the ability to take control over their own mobility should they prefer.Baldybonce said:
Indeed and to expect airports to have different kinds of wheelchairs is a big ask ( they are not cheap)SuedeAdidas said:I (fortunately) do not know the challenges of disability and feel sorry for the guys situation.
If his intent is to raise awareness for availability for suitable equipment in the future then he has achieved this.
However I struggle to see how it is “degrading” to have someone push you in a wheelchair but not degrading for you to drag yourself along an airport floor on your arse and then on a luggage cart.
As others have said - this may be 100% due to his natural competitive nature.....but the talk of suing the airport makes me wonder.
I wonder he how manages the toilets on board. For a big person they are awkward, for someone with a disability they must be a nightmare.
I’m still not sure of this mans motives but I really don’t think we ought to blame the lack of self propelling wheelchairs as an alternative to relying on being pushed as being too expensive.
There are bottles of Scotch for sale at airports that are more expensive than the cheapest available independence chairs.
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They would be nicked within a week.0
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I'm not sure there isn't a liability issue here. Not every disabled person coming through the airport is an paralympic athlete, some may be severely infirm or limited in their mobility. The airport may be obliged by their insurers to only allow use of their wheelchairs under the supervision of airport staff. As owners of the wheelchair, they have a responsibility to anyone who uses it and the other airport customers.SuedeAdidas said:I (fortunately) do not know the challenges of disability and feel sorry for the guys situation.
If his intent is to raise awareness for availability for suitable equipment in the future then he has achieved this.
However I struggle to see how it is “degrading” to have someone push you in a wheelchair but not degrading for you to drag yourself along an airport floor on your arse and then on a luggage cart.
As others have said - this may be 100% due to his natural competitive nature.....but the talk of suing the airport makes me wonder.
It's unfortunate that this man's wheelchair got lost but I feel his reaction to the situation was not constructive.11
