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Helicopter Crash at the King Power Stadium Leicester

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  • Lovely words from Riyad Mahrez in his MNF post match interview.

    Agreed... Have to admit I wasnt sure if he was putting his hands in the air in tribute or to thank god for the goal as you see other players doing - Nice words from him as am sure there are a few Leicester fans who wouldnt have been happy about the way he departed
  • Lincsaddick
    Lincsaddick Posts: 32,345
    Profile of Vichai Srivaddhanaprabha and his family business from the BBC

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/46006896


  • Swisdom
    Swisdom Posts: 14,976
    There’s a video taken on the pitch that’s better than the grainy cctv. Does appear to show there was no way of controlling it at all.

    Dread to think what was going through their minds in those seconds
  • I'm assuming the practice of flying helicopters with takeoff from a stadium might be reviewed?
  • Rothko
    Rothko Posts: 18,800
    rear rotor looks like it's failed, once that happens the helicopter will go into an uncontrolled spin like that.

    Already pretty major rules on Helicopters and where they can fly, for example in London, there not really allowed to stray away form the Thames while they fly.
  • Rothko said:

    rear rotor looks like it's failed, once that happens the helicopter will go into an uncontrolled spin like that.

    Already pretty major rules on Helicopters and where they can fly, for example in London, there not really allowed to stray away form the Thames while they fly.

    Do the rules need to be reviewed in light of this crash?
  • Rothko
    Rothko Posts: 18,800
    Who knows, AAIB will do it's work, and make recommendations to the CAA on it. But I would expect so, but then most helicopter flights are in and out of London to small out of town heliports, so this tragic accident is extremely rare and a freak set of circumstances.
  • Carter
    Carter Posts: 14,240

    Rothko said:

    rear rotor looks like it's failed, once that happens the helicopter will go into an uncontrolled spin like that.

    Already pretty major rules on Helicopters and where they can fly, for example in London, there not really allowed to stray away form the Thames while they fly.

    Do the rules need to be reviewed in light of this crash?
    You've got to consider the volume of helicopter flights compared to the volume of accidents. Like I said previously helicopters when they go wrong are inclined to drop like stones as in this case sadly.

    Same for motorway accidents, there are dozens if not hundreds of these weekly so measures are in place to manage risk and reduce the amount of accidents. Factor in things like brake failure, road conditions, driver ignorance and concentration and do the same for helicopter travel and the number of accidents per 100 flights is really low

  • Rothko
    Rothko Posts: 18,800
    there were 3,200 helicopter flights in London in 6 months, of which a third were the Police or HEMS, so you're dealing with a pretty small scale activity, which is pretty heavily regulated already.
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  • Missed It
    Missed It Posts: 2,733
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    Rothko said:

    rear rotor looks like it's failed, once that happens the helicopter will go into an uncontrolled spin like that.

    Already pretty major rules on Helicopters and where they can fly, for example in London, there not really allowed to stray away form the Thames while they fly.

    Do the rules need to be reviewed in light of this crash?
    The Air Accidents Investigation Board usually make recommendations on the basis of their findings. Helicopter flying is already well regulated so I would be surprised if this incident results in many changes. I would assume that the stadium had been approved by the CAA as helicopter landing site within operating guidelines as there are rules about flying in close proximity to that type of venue. It's a very unfortunate incident. At night, at low altitude and with very little speed the pilot's options to recover the aircraft would have been extremely limited. A tail rotor failure at 2,000 ft and 100 knots in broad daylight has a chance of a successful autorotation landing.
  • Lincsaddick
    Lincsaddick Posts: 32,345
    remember the police chopper that came down on the Glasgow pub .. 10 died .. rarely it seems do the helicopter crew or passengers escape .. the aircraft just drops like a sack of lead
  • Gravesend_Addick
    Gravesend_Addick Posts: 7,299
    edited October 2018
    Just seen the video that's circulating on whatsapp. There's no way the pilot had any control over where that was landing/falling
  • clive
    clive Posts: 19,442

    Just seen the video that's circulating on whatsapp. There's no way the pilot had any control over where that was landing/falling

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sS--OX-LPNU
  • Lincsaddick
    Lincsaddick Posts: 32,345
    clive said:

    Just seen the video that's circulating on whatsapp. There's no way the pilot had any control over where that was landing/falling

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sS--OX-LPNU
    that is just heart stoppingly horrific .. phew
  • DaveMehmet
    DaveMehmet Posts: 21,590
    Poor sods had no chance.
  • Urgh crap that aint good watching... Must have been terrifying for all on board when that went into a spin
  • Urgh crap that aint good watching... Must have been terrifying for all on board when that went into a spin

    I suppose at least it was quick. Very sad.
  • eaststandmike
    eaststandmike Posts: 14,956
    No chance the pilot chose to put it down where it crashed, pure luck for those still in the area.
  • MuttleyCAFC
    MuttleyCAFC Posts: 47,728
    edited October 2018
    If the helicopter malfunctioned, where it took off from is surely not an issue. I think the helicopter is quite a new design, so maybe there is a design issue. From the video, investigators will be pretty clear what went wrong I'm sure, it is now a question of why?
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  • Only question I have is how the Helicopter took off... Am more knowledgable about airplanes yet in the video it doesnt look right even when it first leaves the ground
  • randy andy
    randy andy Posts: 5,454

    Only question I have is how the Helicopter took off... Am more knowledgable about airplanes yet in the video it doesnt look right even when it first leaves the ground

    "Leicester City helicopter crash: 'Operating normally' on take-off"
    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-leicestershire-46044277
  • If the helicopter malfunctioned, where it took off from is surely not an issue.

    If you take off from a field and crash then it's a bit different from taking off near a stadium or in a built up area - potentially a lot more damage/casualties.
  • Only question I have is how the Helicopter took off... Am more knowledgable about airplanes yet in the video it doesnt look right even when it first leaves the ground

    "Leicester City helicopter crash: 'Operating normally' on take-off"
    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-leicestershire-46044277
    Cheers... This is what I wondered before reading the article anyway

    At lift-off you can't see anything that's abnormal, but it's an awkward job climbing out of a stadium because ideally you want some forward speed as well as continuing to climb.
  • MuttleyCAFC
    MuttleyCAFC Posts: 47,728

    If the helicopter malfunctioned, where it took off from is surely not an issue.

    If you take off from a field and crash then it's a bit different from taking off near a stadium or in a built up area - potentially a lot more damage/casualties.
    Yes, but you might stop helicopters or planes flying over cities which isn't practical.
  • If the helicopter malfunctioned, where it took off from is surely not an issue.

    If you take off from a field and crash then it's a bit different from taking off near a stadium or in a built up area - potentially a lot more damage/casualties.
    Yes, but you might stop helicopters or planes flying over cities which isn't practical.
    I'm talking about the issue of takeoff/landing - I'm assuming this will be reviewed post this incident. If the risk is negligible then obviously change won't be a high priority.

    Any helicopter pilots on here?
  • Missed It
    Missed It Posts: 2,733

    Only question I have is how the Helicopter took off... Am more knowledgable about airplanes yet in the video it doesnt look right even when it first leaves the ground

    It looks fine taking off. The pause about 6ft off the deck is to give the pilot time to check everything is OK with the engines etc. before committing to the flight. It's not an ideal situation to take off in. A football stadium is enclosed so the helicopter has to go straight up mainly on power rather than using more efficient translational lift generated by the rotor disc through forward speed. A helicopter needs airspeed to keep the rotors spinning and generating lift to make an autorotation landing. Unfortunately, the failure appears to have occurred at the worst possible moment, with no speed, and no height to trade for speed either.
  • Lincsaddick
    Lincsaddick Posts: 32,345
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  • thenewbie
    thenewbie Posts: 11,000

    If the helicopter malfunctioned, where it took off from is surely not an issue.

    If you take off from a field and crash then it's a bit different from taking off near a stadium or in a built up area - potentially a lot more damage/casualties.
    Yes, but you might stop helicopters or planes flying over cities which isn't practical.
    That seems like a massive over reaction to me I have to say.
  • thenewbie said:

    If the helicopter malfunctioned, where it took off from is surely not an issue.

    If you take off from a field and crash then it's a bit different from taking off near a stadium or in a built up area - potentially a lot more damage/casualties.
    Yes, but you might stop helicopters or planes flying over cities which isn't practical.
    That seems like a massive over reaction to me I have to say.
    The issue is obviously about landing and taking off.