Has Sterling? Do we know he has? He gets abuse no doubt but do we know it’s purely because he is black? And is one type of abuse worse than another and who judges?
Some of the most uncomfortable abuse I’ve witnessed has been at ginger people, who seem fair game to just about anyone who isn’t ginger, have to endure negative connations and casual but often relentless brutal abuse, which if it was directed at skin colour, would send people into a frenzy.
Strawberry blonde?
Say it loud I'm red headed and proud
Is the abuse a player like Defoe gets at The Valley because he is black?
Absolutely. It's pure, subconscious racism. That's whether those abusing him dress it up as being because of how he left the club or not. The reality is it enables their subconscious racism to rise to the surface.
There can be no other explanation.
Subconscious racism? Let's pretend such a thing exists, even though it doesn't.
Ignoring your ridiculous analogy, surely you don't actually think that?
Quote: "Britain’s tabloid press do not write 20 ridiculous headlines about one man and then everybody goes about their business as if nothing has happened. Call a man a ‘footie idiot’ and some people will think he is a ‘footie idiot’. Criticise a man for spending too much and people will think he spends too much. Criticise a man for spending too little and people will think he spends too little. Repeatedly point the finger at one young black man for perfectly normal and reasonable behaviour and that black man – and others like him – becomes a target.
In December a man was jailed for walking up to Sterling and calling him a “black scouse cunt” before repeatedly kicking him in the legs. He then said: “I hope your mother and child wake up dead in the morning, you nigger.”
And if you think that kind of behaviour is entirely unrelated to the sustained media coverage about Raheem Sterling then we really do not want to be on your ‘side’, for you Sir/Madam, are an idiot, footie or otherwise."
Has Sterling? Do we know he has? He gets abuse no doubt but do we know it’s purely because he is black? And is one type of abuse worse than another and who judges?
Some of the most uncomfortable abuse I’ve witnessed has been at ginger people, who seem fair game to just about anyone who isn’t ginger, have to endure negative connations and casual but often relentless brutal abuse, which if it was directed at skin colour, would send people into a frenzy.
Strawberry blonde?
Say it loud I'm red headed and proud
Is the abuse a player like Defoe gets at The Valley because he is black?
Absolutely. It's pure, subconscious racism. That's whether those abusing him dress it up as being because of how he left the club or not. The reality is it enables their subconscious racism to rise to the surface.
There can be no other explanation.
Subconscious racism? Let's pretend such a thing exists, even though it doesn't.
Big bad world supports the idea that kids get to wave flags when Charlton enter the pitch. Subconsciously he is a peadophile.
Add subconscious to anything to prove an invalid point.
Has Sterling? Do we know he has? He gets abuse no doubt but do we know it’s purely because he is black? And is one type of abuse worse than another and who judges?
Some of the most uncomfortable abuse I’ve witnessed has been at ginger people, who seem fair game to just about anyone who isn’t ginger, have to endure negative connations and casual but often relentless brutal abuse, which if it was directed at skin colour, would send people into a frenzy.
Strawberry blonde?
Say it loud I'm red headed and proud
Is the abuse a player like Defoe gets at The Valley because he is black?
Absolutely. It's pure, subconscious racism. That's whether those abusing him dress it up as being because of how he left the club or not. The reality is it enables their subconscious racism to rise to the surface.
There can be no other explanation.
Subconscious racism? Let's pretend such a thing exists, even though it doesn't.
Big bad world supports the idea that kids get to wave flags when Charlton enter the pitch. Subconsciously he is a peadophile.
Add subconscious to anything to prove an invalid point.
In fairness, it's absolute nonsense that was spouted by Kitson on talksport so i don't blame Mings one bit.
Waffling on about how Sterling might have invited some of the abuse he gets with his “look at me” attitude. That is surely exactly the point of Instagram.
After all the valid and well articulated points Gary Neville made last night on MNF, The Scum went with the headline ‘Neville blasts Lukaku for being overweight’....which pretty much sums them up.
If you came from South East London do you even use the term "Manc"?
I've only heard it from people from the north. He might have called Stirling a "Manc C***", I don't know but sorry, that just doesn't ring true to me.
Also later on the black man near him in the crown, who many were using as a defence ("why wasn't he offended = can't have happened") says he didn't hear anything.
just out of interest why is this chaps home and family detailed in a paper yet other racist scum like anjej choudary protected?, nonces aswell for that matter.
as what about vigilante attacks etc, detailing his kids and wifes names are also a bit ott imo.
regarding manc and black - they are completely different and if you cannot tell the difference hand your brain back because you clearly do not use/need it
just out of interest why is this chaps home and family detailed in a paper yet other racist scum like anjej choudary protected?, nonces aswell for that matter.
as what about vigilante attacks etc, detailing his kids and wifes names are also a bit ott imo.
I agree, that seemed well over the top but this is the Daily Mail we're talking about.
just out of interest why is this chaps home and family detailed in a paper yet other racist scum like anjej choudary protected?, nonces aswell for that matter.
as what about vigilante attacks etc, detailing his kids and wifes names are also a bit ott imo.
I agree, that seemed well over the top but this is the Daily Mail we're talking about.
the name of the guy - fair cop but a photo of his house, and wife and kids 1st and last names - way out of line, imagine if his kids go to school with any ethnic minority kids - could be v dangerous
and strictly speaking he hasn't actually been charged with anything yet - he is currently accused.
just out of interest why is this chaps home and family detailed in a paper yet other racist scum like anjej choudary protected?, nonces aswell for that matter.
as what about vigilante attacks etc, detailing his kids and wifes names are also a bit ott imo.
I agree, that seemed well over the top but this is the Daily Mail we're talking about.
the name of the guy - fair cop but a photo of his house, and wife and kids 1st and last names - way out of line, imagine if his kids go to school with any ethnic minority kids - could be v dangerous
and strictly speaking he hasn't actually been charged with anything yet - he is currently accused.
Agree completely. His innocent family are not fair game.
just out of interest why is this chaps home and family detailed in a paper yet other racist scum like anjej choudary protected?, nonces aswell for that matter.
as what about vigilante attacks etc, detailing his kids and wifes names are also a bit ott imo.
I agree, that seemed well over the top but this is the Daily Mail we're talking about.
the name of the guy - fair cop but a photo of his house, and wife and kids 1st and last names - way out of line, imagine if his kids go to school with any ethnic minority kids - could be v dangerous
and strictly speaking he hasn't actually been charged with anything yet - he is currently accused.
Agree completely. His innocent family are not fair game.
could maybe understand if his kids were standing next to him but they wasn't, so the mail can fuck off, this is a short while after they were putting drones over the houses of some sick fucks that made a effigy of grenfell, each to there own but who really wants to see the garden - they would like the people appropriately punished.
If you came from South East London do you even use the term "Manc"?
I've only heard it from people from the north. He might have called Stirling a "Manc C***", I don't know but sorry, that just doesn't ring true to me.
Also later on the black man near him in the crown, who many were using as a defence ("why wasn't he offended = can't have happened") says he didn't hear anything.
And Stirling comes from West London anyway.
I think both could be public order offences. Racism and/or sexism parcelled up and used as an insult.
I have never understood why adults believe it's ok to act like this at football. Anywhere else they'd be nicked if the police saw it.
just out of interest why is this chaps home and family detailed in a paper yet other racist scum like anjej choudary protected?, nonces aswell for that matter.
as what about vigilante attacks etc, detailing his kids and wifes names are also a bit ott imo.
I agree, that seemed well over the top but this is the Daily Mail we're talking about.
the name of the guy - fair cop but a photo of his house, and wife and kids 1st and last names - way out of line, imagine if his kids go to school with any ethnic minority kids - could be v dangerous
and strictly speaking he hasn't actually been charged with anything yet - he is currently accused.
Which is why the Mail can print all the details. If he had been charged it wouldn't be legal.
just out of interest why is this chaps home and family detailed in a paper yet other racist scum like anjej choudary protected?, nonces aswell for that matter.
as what about vigilante attacks etc, detailing his kids and wifes names are also a bit ott imo.
I agree, that seemed well over the top but this is the Daily Mail we're talking about.
the name of the guy - fair cop but a photo of his house, and wife and kids 1st and last names - way out of line, imagine if his kids go to school with any ethnic minority kids - could be v dangerous
and strictly speaking he hasn't actually been charged with anything yet - he is currently accused.
Which is why the Mail can print all the details. If he had been charged it wouldn't be legal.
It's also their way to try to make up for the bile they've published about black footballers. Pathetic really.
Racism is not acceptable as is persecution of individuals. Sterling is a player that ( maybe because of press coverage) is not particularly popular. I hope in these politically correct times it is not now becoming such that you cannot dislike somebody.
If you came from South East London do you even use the term "Manc"?
I've only heard it from people from the north. He might have called Stirling a "Manc C***", I don't know but sorry, that just doesn't ring true to me.
Also later on the black man near him in the crown, who many were using as a defence ("why wasn't he offended = can't have happened") says he didn't hear anything.
And Stirling comes from West London Kingston, Jamaica anyway.
just out of interest why is this chaps home and family detailed in a paper yet other racist scum like anjej choudary protected?, nonces aswell for that matter.
as what about vigilante attacks etc, detailing his kids and wifes names are also a bit ott imo.
I agree, that seemed well over the top but this is the Daily Mail we're talking about.
the name of the guy - fair cop but a photo of his house, and wife and kids 1st and last names - way out of line, imagine if his kids go to school with any ethnic minority kids - could be v dangerous
and strictly speaking he hasn't actually been charged with anything yet - he is currently accused.
Which is why the Mail can print all the details. If he had been charged it wouldn't be legal.
It's also their way to try to make up for the bile they've published about black footballers. Pathetic really.
yeah it smacks of evening things out in there opinion
If you came from South East London do you even use the term "Manc"?
I've only heard it from people from the north. He might have called Stirling a "Manc C***", I don't know but sorry, that just doesn't ring true to me.
Also later on the black man near him in the crown, who many were using as a defence ("why wasn't he offended = can't have happened") says he didn't hear anything.
And Stirling comes from West London anyway.
I think both could be public order offences. Racism and/or sexism parcelled up and used as an insult.
I have never understood why adults believe it's ok to act like this at football. Anywhere else they'd be nicked if the police saw it.
in the 'good old days' after a hard week at work and having put up with the missus and the kids all week nights, the football match was about the only place a 'working man' could let off steam and have a right good swearing and cursing session to clear his mind and lungs .. now in PC land where middle class mores rule, there is nowhere left for the 'common man' to have a right good f and blind .. I learnt more about abuse and terrible language down the valley in the 1960s than anywhere else before or since (following CAFC has always been more than enough to make a saint swear) ((:>)
If you came from South East London do you even use the term "Manc"?
I've only heard it from people from the north. He might have called Stirling a "Manc C***", I don't know but sorry, that just doesn't ring true to me.
Also later on the black man near him in the crown, who many were using as a defence ("why wasn't he offended = can't have happened") says he didn't hear anything.
And Stirling comes from West London anyway.
I think both could be public order offences. Racism and/or sexism parcelled up and used as an insult.
I have never understood why adults believe it's ok to act like this at football. Anywhere else they'd be nicked if the police saw it.
in the 'good old days' after a hard week at work and having put up with the missus and the kids all week nights, the football match was about the only place a 'working man' could let off steam and have a right good swearing and cursing session to clear his mind and lungs .. now in PC land where middle class mores rule, there is nowhere left for the 'common man' to have a right good f and blind .. I learnt more about abuse and terrible language down the valley in the 1960s than anywhere else before or since (following CAFC has always been more than enough to make a saint swear) ((:>)
So its ok to be racist as long as you're only doing it to 'let off some steam'? Hope i've got the wrong end of the stick here.
If you came from South East London do you even use the term "Manc"?
I've only heard it from people from the north. He might have called Stirling a "Manc C***", I don't know but sorry, that just doesn't ring true to me.
Also later on the black man near him in the crown, who many were using as a defence ("why wasn't he offended = can't have happened") says he didn't hear anything.
And Stirling comes from West London anyway.
I think both could be public order offences. Racism and/or sexism parcelled up and used as an insult.
I have never understood why adults believe it's ok to act like this at football. Anywhere else they'd be nicked if the police saw it.
in the 'good old days' after a hard week at work and having put up with the missus and the kids all week nights, the football match was about the only place a 'working man' could let off steam and have a right good swearing and cursing session to clear his mind and lungs .. now in PC land where middle class mores rule, there is nowhere left for the 'common man' to have a right good f and blind .. I learnt more about abuse and terrible language down the valley in the 1960s than anywhere else before or since (following CAFC has always been more than enough to make a saint swear) ((:>)
So its ok to be racist as long as you're only doing it to 'let off some steam'? Hope i've got the wrong end of the stick here.
Comments
https://www.football365.com/news/mediawatch-special-raheem-sterling-the-sun-and-racist-attacks
Quote: "Britain’s tabloid press do not write 20 ridiculous headlines about one man and then everybody goes about their business as if nothing has happened. Call a man a ‘footie idiot’ and some people will think he is a ‘footie idiot’. Criticise a man for spending too much and people will think he spends too much. Criticise a man for spending too little and people will think he spends too little. Repeatedly point the finger at one young black man for perfectly normal and reasonable behaviour and that black man – and others like him – becomes a target.
In December a man was jailed for walking up to Sterling and calling him a “black scouse cunt” before repeatedly kicking him in the legs. He then said: “I hope your mother and child wake up dead in the morning, you nigger.”
And if you think that kind of behaviour is entirely unrelated to the sustained media coverage about Raheem Sterling then we really do not want to be on your ‘side’, for you Sir/Madam, are an idiot, footie or otherwise."
http://www.acas.org.uk/index.aspx?articleid=5433
And children.
Women as well, whilst we're at it.
Waffling on about how Sterling might have invited some of the abuse he gets with his “look at me” attitude. That is surely exactly the point of Instagram.
Chelsea fan in Beckenham
Now, tell me.
If you came from South East London do you even use the term "Manc"?
I've only heard it from people from the north. He might have called Stirling a "Manc C***", I don't know but sorry, that just doesn't ring true to me.
Also later on the black man near him in the crown, who many were using as a defence ("why wasn't he offended = can't have happened") says he didn't hear anything.
And Stirling comes from West London anyway.
as what about vigilante attacks etc, detailing his kids and wifes names are also a bit ott imo.
and strictly speaking he hasn't actually been charged with anything yet - he is currently accused.
I have never understood why adults believe it's ok to act like this at football. Anywhere else they'd be nicked if the police saw it.
Sterling is a player that ( maybe because of press coverage) is not particularly popular.
I hope in these politically correct times it is not now becoming such that you cannot dislike somebody.
EFA
now in PC land where middle class mores rule, there is nowhere left for the 'common man' to have a right good f and blind .. I learnt more about abuse and terrible language down the valley in the 1960s than anywhere else before or since (following CAFC has always been more than enough to make a saint swear) ((:>)