England Cricket Tours 2018-19 (and everything off the field during that period)
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Silly 3rd run off the final ball imo. Foakes is now off strike for the first over tomorrow. What's the betting he'll never get to face a ball as the last 2 fall within the first over.Addick Addict said:321-8 at close
Excellent 87* from Foakes - good job he's not Australian because superstition might get the better of him!
Unbeaten partnership of 15 with Leach of which Leach has made all bar one!
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Agree Stokes would be too high at 4.The_President said:
I like that - except not happy with Stokes at 4 - we seem a batsman light there.Addick Addict said:Thinking about the future (and not this series), we should dump Jennings (dropped twice today) and ask Bairstow to open. Foakes should now keep the gloves because he is a better keeper than Bairstow and a lot better than Buttler.
The team would look something like this:
Burns
Bairstow
Root
Stokes
Buttler
Foakes
Ali
Curran/Woakes
Rashid
Broad/Stones
Anderson
Re Stokes, his batting average is 33. If you were to take off the magnificent innings in Cape Town of 258 his average would be 30. Not the sort of average that i would like for an England no 4.
Buttler or Curran look more suited to it, though neither is ideal. We're really struggling for proper batsmen.0 -
Foakes - Made in Essex, perfected in England. Nabbed in the middle by some two-bob numpties.7
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a) this is a ludicrous criticismgolfaddick said:
Silly 3rd run off the final ball imo. Foakes is now off strike for the first over tomorrow. What's the betting he'll never get to face a ball as the last 2 fall within the first over.Addick Addict said:321-8 at close
Excellent 87* from Foakes - good job he's not Australian because superstition might get the better of him!
Unbeaten partnership of 15 with Leach of which Leach has made all bar one!
b) you clearly turned off an over too early. there was another over, leach hit it for 10 runs, and foakes is on strike in the morning14 -
I think we can safely say that Gareth Batty will never play for England again.cantersaddick said:
Gareth Batty, Scott Borthwick, Ryan Patel, Liam Plunkett, Jordan Clark, Matt Dunn, Conor Mckerr, Stuart Meaker..... the list goes on.Addick Addict said:
You forgot Stoneman, Dernbach, Jacks, Virdee, Rickeeeeeeeee Clarke etc etc who will all, at some point, be put forward as candidates by our CL Surrey fans.MrOneLung said:Hold on, where will they fit Pope,Roy, and the other Curran into the team ?
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They don't just nick players - they steal coaches too. Richard Johnson has joined them from Middlesex.McBobbin said:Foakes - Made in Essex, perfected in England. Nabbed in the middle by some two-bob numpties.
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Do I detect a tad of animosity towards our country champions.
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Two bob numpties who 1) Won the championship last year 2) With mostly home grown talent (dont get Canters going !)McBobbin said:Foakes - Made in Essex, perfected in England. Nabbed in the middle by some two-bob numpties.
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From the BBC...Addick Addict said:
They don't just nick players - they steal coaches too. Richard Johnson has joined them from Middlesex.McBobbin said:Foakes - Made in Essex, perfected in England. Nabbed in the middle by some two-bob numpties.
'Surrey have appointed Richard Johnson as assistant coach after the former England bowler was released from his contract at Middlesex.'0 -
I actually think that England should just re-badge itself as Surrey and the North, so we just play every game with Surrey players plus invited Norveners such as Root, Buttler,Jimmy,Stokes and Bairstow.1
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Norther Buttler from Somerset?The_President said:I actually think that England should just re-badge itself as Surrey and the North, so we just play every game with Surrey players plus invited Norveners such as Root, Buttler,Jimmy,Stokes and Bairstow.
Next you and canters will be claiming Joberg, durban and Cape Town are in the People's Republic of Surrey, just to increase your home grown quota.
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Morne's from Guildford mateCafc43v3r said:
Norther Buttler from Somerset?The_President said:I actually think that England should just re-badge itself as Surrey and the North, so we just play every game with Surrey players plus invited Norveners such as Root, Buttler,Jimmy,Stokes and Bairstow.
Next you and canters will be claiming Joberg, durban and Cape Town are in the People's Republic of Surrey, just to increase your home grown quota.1 -
Wasn't even including him........Leuth said:
Morne's from Guildford mateCafc43v3r said:
Norther Buttler from Somerset?The_President said:I actually think that England should just re-badge itself as Surrey and the North, so we just play every game with Surrey players plus invited Norveners such as Root, Buttler,Jimmy,Stokes and Bairstow.
Next you and canters will be claiming Joberg, durban and Cape Town are in the People's Republic of Surrey, just to increase your home grown quota.0 -
This season was the first time since 2002 that Surrey have won the county championship, they were in div 2 in 2015, so don't get carried away1
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Happy for England to pick lots of Surrey players next summer if it means Surrey lose lots of matches as a result and go down
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My bad !!!! who's have thought they would have got in 91 overs in the day. That must be unheard of in world cricket these days....or indeed over the last 40 years or so that I have been watching Test cricket. I did indeed turn over after they ran 3 on the last ball of the 89th over as I thought it was all over......... .Leuth said:
a) this is a ludicrous criticismgolfaddick said:
Silly 3rd run off the final ball imo. Foakes is now off strike for the first over tomorrow. What's the betting he'll never get to face a ball as the last 2 fall within the first over.Addick Addict said:321-8 at close
Excellent 87* from Foakes - good job he's not Australian because superstition might get the better of him!
Unbeaten partnership of 15 with Leach of which Leach has made all bar one!
b) you clearly turned off an over too early. there was another over, leach hit it for 10 runs, and foakes is on strike in the morning
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Decent recovery - what is the pitch like?0
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Nothing wrong with it if you had a game plan and didn't try to go at the ball especially as we did in the first session.MuttleyCAFC said:Decent recovery - what is the pitch like?
The pitch will deteriorate so if we can set SL 250 plus in the final innings we should be in with a good chance.1 -
We had plenty of call ups this year which didn't affect us that much. Sam Tom Roy Stoneman and Pope all missed significant parts of the year due to call ups. We also had Burns Virdi and Foakes miss games to the lions.killerandflash said:Happy for England to pick lots of Surrey players next summer if it means Surrey lose lots of matches as a result and go down
We have the depth we will be fine.1 -
I'd have England to win from here against this SL side 19 times out of 20MuttleyCAFC said:Decent recovery - what is the pitch like?
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So do the bookies - have England at evens and SL at 11/4.Leuth said:
I'd have England to win from here against this SL side 19 times out of 20MuttleyCAFC said:Decent recovery - what is the pitch like?
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The real question is: who does Bairstow come in for?
The answer being KEATON JENNINGS FOR FUCK'S SAKE1 -
For a Worcestershire supporter you sometimes make sense.Leuth said:The real question is: who does Bairstow come in for?
The answer being KEATON JENNINGS FOR FUCK'S SAKE
I have to say I agree with you completely.0 -
Bairstow being forced to open could be good for him as well. Force him to leave the ball a bit. He's got the game for it. Plus, he won't be keeping0
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Not sure he has it in him to play that way. Stokes might be a better makeshift opener, he's proved he can play slowly when he needs toLeuth said:Bairstow being forced to open could be good for him as well. Force him to leave the ball a bit. He's got the game for it. Plus, he won't be keeping
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Bairstow is one-day opener though, so it makes a certain level of sense0
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A completely different game though. Hales and Roy are one day openers as well.Leuth said:Bairstow is one-day opener though, so it makes a certain level of sense
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It's a nice idea but I've seen nothing to suggest Bairstow should be opening in Tests.
Some of his dismissals against India were very poor and showed none of the grit and determination needed to open.
I don't have the answer though, other than Jennings isn't it.1 -
Well, it has to be Jennings, although I can imagine England bowling SL out with a 100 lead and then Jennings knocking a pressure-free fifty which keeps him in for another 10 Tests. But then, who opens? Either Bairstow or Buttler0
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For me, England made a massive cock up in the summer of 2017 with their batting selections. Westerly and Malan were never going to be world class, Vince was worth a pop though. They should have looked at it and said "we have some great young players who aren't ready" and picked either Bell or Hildrith as a stop gap until after next summers ashes.
I am quite old fashioned in the sense that I would pick my best 4 bowlers and best 5 batsman then work out the last 2 places.
Using my selection criteria only 3 from the 11 today get in the 9, that's being generous to Burns.
Are Stokes and Ali good enough to bat in the top 6 long term? Are they in England's best 4 bowlers? Is Curran in England's top 4 bowlers (don't think about his batting)?
Are Anderson and Broad part of the problem, in that they are no spring chickens, so they want at least 4 seamers to reduce their work load?
If Bairstow did come in for Jennings we would go into a test match with 4 wicket keepers and 7 bowlers!0
