‘He’s going now’? Like he’s been going since he first instructed people to find buyers over two years ago. If he wanted to he could go tomorrow. But he won’t. The blokes a grade A shitweasal. Just fuck off you senile old scroat.
Yes but he is going, you cant really doubt it, and whatever we say it will be on his terms. So why punish ourselves, and risk the club and its support dying off even further?
And that, my friends is why Roland Duchatelet continues to take the piss out of our club on a daily basis.
It takes a big man to hold his hands up and apologise for their mistakes so fair play to him. That wipes the slate clean with him as far as I'm concerned and I for one say well done Mr Duchatelet.
Let's all now move on together and put all the silliness to bed and focus on getting 3 points off Doncaster.
‘He’s going now’? Like he’s been going since he first instructed people to find buyers over two years ago. If he wanted to he could go tomorrow. But he won’t. The blokes a grade A shitweasal. Just fuck off you senile old scroat.
Yes but he is going, you cant really doubt it, and whatever we say it will be on his terms. So why punish ourselves, and risk the club and its support dying off even further?
‘He’s going now’? Like he’s been going since he first instructed people to find buyers over two years ago. If he wanted to he could go tomorrow. But he won’t. The blokes a grade A shitweasal. Just fuck off you senile old scroat.
Yes but he is going, you cant really doubt it, and whatever we say it will be on his terms. So why punish ourselves, and risk the club and its support dying off even further?
I’m not going to much now because of a poorly run club, not enough ambition and pretty poor football. Bowyers done an ok job but we are still just above half way in this league with promotion just a remote possibility imo. The owner doesn’t care and it filters right down through to the fans! I just hope that eventually under new owners people get their enthusiasm back. A big new drive re special deals, promotions will be needed to build this club up again!
Barnie, just accept that people have differing opinions and approaches to the bullshit situation we find ourselves in.
You made it quite clear at the outset you thought the boycott was divisive, you are now suggesting we are punishing ourselves and putting the club at risk by continuing, when he does go no doubt it will be that boycotting made no difference and we only hurt ourselves, that's fine.
For my part I do not enjoy missing the Valley on a match day but, and it is an overwhelming but, I am very content not providing RD with a penny of my hard earned cash, whether he notices it or not. Sadly the soundbite we were offered yesterday caused me no optimism that he was on the verge of going anytime soon and certainly no reason to change my own stance.
Once he has gone, and sadly not before, I will be straight back. For people who continue to go, great, its a personal choice that's all, until then I will have to be content with trips to Scunthorpe and Burton midweek.
Barnie, just accept that people have differing opinions and approaches to the bullshit situation we find ourselves in.
You made it quite clear at the outset you thought the boycott was divisive, you are now suggesting we are punishing ourselves and putting the club at risk by continuing, when he does go no doubt it will be that boycotting made no difference and we only hurt ourselves, that's fine.
For my part I do not enjoy missing the Valley on a match day but, and it is an overwhelming but, I am very content not providing RD with a penny of my hard earned cash, whether he notices it or not. Sadly the soundbite we were offered yesterday caused me no optimism that he was on the verge of going anytime soon and certainly no reason to change my own stance.
Once he has gone, and sadly not before, I will be straight back. For people who continue to go, great, its a personal choice that's all.
Accepted, the fear I have is how many will have found better things to do on a Saturday, got out of the habit of going, or the wife gets used to them being around on Saturday and it becomes the norm.
Not saying anyone is in the wrong for boycotting or responsible for the above scenario, just something that does concern me is how long the damage RD has done leading to boycotting going to take to repair.
I read it as him saying, we would have been a success but what we did wrong was not communicate our master plan well enough to the fans - which is why we are where we are. Indirectly still blaming the fans. He admits mistakes like - everybody makes mistakes! Not like they were massive mistakes! Sorry, if somebody believes that is a proper apology they have not been watching over the last few years!
‘He’s going now’? Like he’s been going since he first instructed people to find buyers over two years ago. If he wanted to he could go tomorrow. But he won’t. The blokes a grade A shitweasal. Just fuck off you senile old scroat.
Yes but he is going, you cant really doubt it, and whatever we say it will be on his terms. So why punish ourselves, and risk the club and its support dying off even further?
Disappointing stance from a Trust board member
The Trust Board are and should be a cross representative of Charlton fans.
I would be more concerned if they all went or all boycotted.
In advance of the JW interview with RD re lack of communication I am reminded that there was that leaked letter from Katrien Meire to her parents fairly early on which gave away what she was telling Roland about the Club and how he would have perceived matters as all being well!
Suffers only slightly from the Google translate of the main body of text:
Cher Papa, Mama,
I’m so sorry not to have written recently and I just want to reassure you that I’m ok and that everything is going very well indeed in my job here in London. If you saw something in the sports section of Le Soir the other week which showed a picture of a banner with my name on it (and Roland’s) this is because we are trying to encourage the movement of our customers (in addition to our players) around the network of football clubs that Roland owns and we managed to arrange 20 of them to go to Sint Truiden – I think the banner was their way of saying thanks.
Anyway, as I say, everything is working out. I know you desperately wanted me to carry on with my Law career but you have met Roland when he came to dinner at ours and, d’accord, he mystified Papa with his stories of working for British Intelligence and having been in the Resistance during the War but that’s the quirky, funny side of him that few people see or appreciate. A more charming man you couldn’t wish to find and he has given me this wonderful post as CEO of a football club in London that were formed only shortly before he took over and they have been playing at their ground (The Valley) only since the 1990s.
I have taken my role as CEO very seriously and have achieved much. For example, I have persuaded over 3,000 of our long-term customers (they call them here Season Ticket Holders) to pay to see the games whilst in reality they actually stay at home! Oui, I know, I’m so excited, and for 3 customers at every game I have instituted a luxury match-day experience where they view the game from a pitch-side chaise-lounge.
We are going through what they call in England a transition phase which includes changing the colours of the club from Red and White to Black and White and many of the fans are helping us to achieve this with only about 2% resisting the change. Next season we are going to introduce our own team of cheerleaders called The Duchalettes and we are going to expand our restaurant and catering outlets and I am taking the lead on this having undertaken a fact-finding tour in Ireland.
Roland lets me take care of football matters as well, can you believe it? You remember when I was six and Pierre Boisard kicked a ball in my face and said girls can’t play football? Well, look at me now! As soon as I arrived I got rid of the ageing players in the squad (including an arrogant Frenchman call Yann who looked a lot like a grown-up Pierre Boisard actually) and brought across a top European striker in Piotr Parszyszek but you won’t have heard of him. I also discovered England’s next Alex Ferguson, an Israeli called Guy Luzon and installed him to be manager here for 25 years or maybe longer. You will be proud to hear that I used my lawyer experience to ensure that he had a work-permit for England but someone in my staff failed to act on it and the appointment was delayed. Non importe, the member of staff involved is now buried under the chaise-lounge. Ha, Ha, no, I of course joke - she was just let go.
Oh do shush you lot. I have always supported protests, I just think boycotts hurt us more than they hurt him however unfashionable that view is to some.
Edit: of course I respect people’s rights to their opinion @SE7toSG3 and it is definitely not my intention to blame boycotters for anything.
Oh do shush you lot. I have always supported protests, I just think boycotts hurt us more than they hurt him however unfashionable that view is to some.
Edit: of course I respect people’s rights to their opinion @SE7toSG3 and it is definitely not my intention to blame boycotters for anything.
How would the club have gained any benefit from higher attendances? The only one to benefit would have been RD, as he loses would have been reduced.
‘He’s going now’? Like he’s been going since he first instructed people to find buyers over two years ago. If he wanted to he could go tomorrow. But he won’t. The blokes a grade A shitweasal. Just fuck off you senile old scroat.
Yes but he is going, you cant really doubt it, and whatever we say it will be on his terms. So why punish ourselves, and risk the club and its support dying off even further?
Disappointing response
Why is it? It’s his own personal view, everyone is entitled to them.
There is very clearly no right or wrong answer in this
Oh do shush you lot. I have always supported protests, I just think boycotts hurt us more than they hurt him however unfashionable that view is to some.
Edit: of course I respect people’s rights to their opinion @SE7toSG3 and it is definitely not my intention to blame boycotters for anything.
How people spend their money or do with their time on a Saturday afternoon is down to them and is no one else's business apart from their own.
Lots of clubs have bad owners and RD just happens to be worse than average. Boycotts don't touch him - they might work with a different owner but he can afford to ride it out.
A lot of people who've stopped going I doubt will return. I doubt there will be much of an increase in crowds when he goes?
‘He’s going now’? Like he’s been going since he first instructed people to find buyers over two years ago. If he wanted to he could go tomorrow. But he won’t. The blokes a grade A shitweasal. Just fuck off you senile old scroat.
Yes but he is going, you cant really doubt it, and whatever we say it will be on his terms. So why punish ourselves, and risk the club and its support dying off even further?
How about because they really aren't that good a team and whereas 20-30 years ago I wouldn't miss a home game regardless of which position and/or league they were in, I just cannot bring myself to watch poor football week in / week out?
I am a boycotter - but a pretty rubbish one who still goes to games as I love my club. The problem isn't boycotters who are passionate, it is the majority who are less passionate and don't want to watch third division football, where we struggle to beat crap teams in largely crap games bereft of quality. They are the ones the club lose and will have to work hard to get back - not the few who boycott and protest. Not sure why this is so difficult for some to grasp. The reason the Valley is so empty as people don't like the product on offer!
When we talk about the ability we have in the side - it is in the context of the third division! The bloody third division - where we seem stuck. We shouldn't forget nor forgive the person largely responsible for it.
Lots of clubs have bad owners and RD just happens to be worse than average. Boycotts don't touch him - they might work with a different owner but he can afford to ride it out.
A lot of people who've stopped going I doubt will return. I doubt there will be much of an increase in crowds when he goes?
I remember people saying exactly the same when we returned to the Valley. If we get our club back, under a half decent owner, with the Clubs best interests at heart, WE can all take responsibility to get people back. We did it before. We can do it again. TOGETHER.
Lots of clubs have bad owners and RD just happens to be worse than average. Boycotts don't touch him - they might work with a different owner but he can afford to ride it out.
A lot of people who've stopped going I doubt will return. I doubt there will be much of an increase in crowds when he goes?
I remember people saying exactly the same when we returned to the Valley. If we get our club back, under a half decent owner, with the Clubs best interests at heart, WE can all take responsibility to get people back. We did it before. We can do it again. TOGETHER.
This is true. If it was done once, it can be done again. It is just a bit sad it has to be done again!
We need to get rid of the **** first. In the snippet we have heard, if anybody thinks he is saying anything different to what has been said before they have not been listening. The narrative I understood before that so called apology was that we were doing the right things but didn't sell that to the fans well enough. Implying, had they done that the plan would have been a success! Can't see any veering away from that.
The reason many Charlton fans protested was they could see where the club was heading and sure enough it got there. People may have got a bit disgruntled with certain managers, but the owner was not under any great pressure to sack any of them. Maybe Fraeye was the closest to this, but he would have been sacked fans or not. They we all wrong calls from his team and I could have done better. Most of us could!
It was a model that was broken from the beginning for various reasons, and a series of wrong decisions around it that leaves us where we are today! It was an unwillingness to change when something wasn't working or have the right employees to help steer us on the correct path!
I can't repeat this enough, but I have huge respect and admiration for CARD and what they have done, so if I came across as critical that was not my intention.
Perhaps one good thing that comes out of all this is all that talent, creativity and energy can then be directed towards @KBslittlesis 's dream of rebuilding our support which I totally share.
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Let's all now move on together and put all the silliness to bed and focus on getting 3 points off Doncaster.
COYA!
You made it quite clear at the outset you thought the boycott was divisive, you are now suggesting we are punishing ourselves and putting the club at risk by continuing, when he does go no doubt it will be that boycotting made no difference and we only hurt ourselves, that's fine.
For my part I do not enjoy missing the Valley on a match day but, and it is an overwhelming but, I am very content not providing RD with a penny of my hard earned cash, whether he notices it or not. Sadly the soundbite we were offered yesterday caused me no optimism that he was on the verge of going anytime soon and certainly no reason to change my own stance.
Once he has gone, and sadly not before, I will be straight back. For people who continue to go, great, its a personal choice that's all, until then I will have to be content with trips to Scunthorpe and Burton midweek.
Not saying anyone is in the wrong for boycotting or responsible for the above scenario, just something that does concern me is how long the damage RD has done leading to boycotting going to take to repair.
I would be more concerned if they all went or all boycotted.
Doesn't stop Razil being wrong
Suffers only slightly from the Google translate of the main body of text:
Cher Papa, Mama,
I’m so sorry not to have written recently and I just want to reassure you that I’m ok and that everything is going very well indeed in my job here in London. If you saw something in the sports section of Le Soir the other week which showed a picture of a banner with my name on it (and Roland’s) this is because we are trying to encourage the movement of our customers (in addition to our players) around the network of football clubs that Roland owns and we managed to arrange 20 of them to go to Sint Truiden – I think the banner was their way of saying thanks.
Anyway, as I say, everything is working out. I know you desperately wanted me to carry on with my Law career but you have met Roland when he came to dinner at ours and, d’accord, he mystified Papa with his stories of working for British Intelligence and having been in the Resistance during the War but that’s the quirky, funny side of him that few people see or appreciate. A more charming man you couldn’t wish to find and he has given me this wonderful post as CEO of a football club in London that were formed only shortly before he took over and they have been playing at their ground (The Valley) only since the 1990s.
I have taken my role as CEO very seriously and have achieved much. For example, I have persuaded over 3,000 of our long-term customers (they call them here Season Ticket Holders) to pay to see the games whilst in reality they actually stay at home! Oui, I know, I’m so excited, and for 3 customers at every game I have instituted a luxury match-day experience where they view the game from a pitch-side chaise-lounge.
We are going through what they call in England a transition phase which includes changing the colours of the club from Red and White to Black and White and many of the fans are helping us to achieve this with only about 2% resisting the change. Next season we are going to introduce our own team of cheerleaders called The Duchalettes and we are going to expand our restaurant and catering outlets and I am taking the lead on this having undertaken a fact-finding tour in Ireland.
Roland lets me take care of football matters as well, can you believe it? You remember when I was six and Pierre Boisard kicked a ball in my face and said girls can’t play football? Well, look at me now! As soon as I arrived I got rid of the ageing players in the squad (including an arrogant Frenchman call Yann who looked a lot like a grown-up Pierre Boisard actually) and brought across a top European striker in Piotr Parszyszek but you won’t have heard of him. I also discovered England’s next Alex Ferguson, an Israeli called Guy Luzon and installed him to be manager here for 25 years or maybe longer. You will be proud to hear that I used my lawyer experience to ensure that he had a work-permit for England but someone in my staff failed to act on it and the appointment was delayed. Non importe, the member of staff involved is now buried under the chaise-lounge. Ha, Ha, no, I of course joke - she was just let go.
Katrien xx
Edit: of course I respect people’s rights to their opinion @SE7toSG3 and it is definitely not my intention to blame boycotters for anything.
There is very clearly no right or wrong answer in this
A lot of people who've stopped going I doubt will return. I doubt there will be much of an increase in crowds when he goes?
When we talk about the ability we have in the side - it is in the context of the third division! The bloody third division - where we seem stuck. We shouldn't forget nor forgive the person largely responsible for it.
If we get our club back, under a half decent owner, with the Clubs best interests at heart, WE can all take responsibility to get people back.
We did it before.
We can do it again.
TOGETHER.
Too true
The reason many Charlton fans protested was they could see where the club was heading and sure enough it got there. People may have got a bit disgruntled with certain managers, but the owner was not under any great pressure to sack any of them. Maybe Fraeye was the closest to this, but he would have been sacked fans or not. They we all wrong calls from his team and I could have done better. Most of us could!
It was a model that was broken from the beginning for various reasons, and a series of wrong decisions around it that leaves us where we are today! It was an unwillingness to change when something wasn't working or have the right employees to help steer us on the correct path!
Not expecting anything of interest.
Perhaps one good thing that comes out of all this is all that talent, creativity and energy can then be directed towards @KBslittlesis 's dream of rebuilding our support which I totally share.