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Is belly dancing acceptable in 2018 ?

Covered End
Covered End Posts: 51,993
edited July 2018 in Not Sports Related
I got invited to a Turkish Restaurant with belly dancing tonight in Orpington.
I politely declined and explained that I didn't think Leuth and Chizz would approve :-)
I mean if walk on ladies at the darts and at the F1 aren't showing women in the right "light", surely belly dancing should now be outdated.

So what do people think ? No arguing please, just polite opinions :-)
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  • ShootersHillGuru
    ShootersHillGuru Posts: 50,619
    Covered End said:

    I got invited to a Turkish Restaurant with belly dancing tonight in Orpington.
    I politely declined and explained that I didn't think Leuth and Chizz would approve :-)
    I mean if walk on ladies at the darts and at the F1 aren't showing women in the right "light", surely belly dancing should now be outdated.

    So what do people think ? No arguing please, just polite opinions :-)

    It’s a cultural thing so I don’t see a problem with it. It’s not for titilation unless you want to see it that way.
  • SporadicAddick
    SporadicAddick Posts: 6,854
    Any display of joy or culture that demeans one of the 16 current official genders should be banned - alternatively, we could just appreciate life and enjoy a kebab and a flash of belly button that has, quite frankly, never hurt anyone.
  • DRAddick
    DRAddick Posts: 3,588
    Depends on the size of the belly.
  • hoof_it_up_to_benty
    hoof_it_up_to_benty Posts: 22,443
    Okay.

  • Bedsaddick
    Bedsaddick Posts: 24,736
    Of course it’s alright . Why on earth not ? It’s a traditional form of entertainment.
  • Manicmania
    Manicmania Posts: 1,594
    Of course it is acceptable! Why on earth wouldn't it be? It's a traditional dance steeped in middle eastern history.

    It's not like belly dancers whip their clothes off and wrap themselves around a pole... (there's nothing wrong with strip clubs either btw)
  • SuedeAdidas
    SuedeAdidas Posts: 7,740
    Bedsaddick said:

    Of course it’s alright . Why on earth not ? It’s a traditional form of entertainment.

    So is bullfighting
  • smudge7946
    smudge7946 Posts: 4,131
    @Covered End.

    This is Charlton Life, not Mumsnet.
  • Callumcafc
    Callumcafc Posts: 63,764
    Don't worry it's not illegal.
  • Covered End
    Covered End Posts: 51,993
    edited July 2018
    I have to say I'm quite surprised with the replies so far.
    This world's getting too confusing for me.
    So it's no longer deemed appropriate for fully dressed ladies to walk alongside darts players.
    But it is appropriate to have some scantily clad ladies shaking their breasts and tummies in your general direction, when you're trying to eat your kebab ?

    I'm genuinely not trying to cause an argument. I really struggle with the double standards as I see it.
    Walking fully clothed demeans women , yet dancing scantily clad for your entertainment whilst eating dinner doesn't ?
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  • Callumcafc
    Callumcafc Posts: 63,764
    It's entirely the choice of that brand or establishment to employ who they want. If F1 and darts don't want walk on girls anymore, that's ok. If a Turkish restaurant wants belly dancers, that's ok too.
  • Covered End
    Covered End Posts: 51,993
    hoof_it_up_to_benty said:

    Spending Saturday night in Orpington is not acceptable.....

    Well obviously, that goes without saying.
  • AddickUpNorth
    AddickUpNorth Posts: 8,325
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    I see no reason why a bit of traditional belly dancing could cause offence, it’s a genuine cultural artform. I’ve heard this guys on tonight so sit back and enjoy your meal
  • hoof_it_up_to_benty
    hoof_it_up_to_benty Posts: 22,443
    AddickUpNorth said:

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    I see no reason why a bit of traditional belly dancing could cause offence, it’s a genuine cultural artform. I’ve heard this guys on tonight so sit back and enjoy your meal

    I used to have that physique before I put weight on....
  • Fumbluff
    Fumbluff Posts: 10,126
    Is that Hale or Pace?
  • Covered End
    Covered End Posts: 51,993
    Callumcafc said:

    It's entirely the choice of that brand or establishment to employ who they want. If F1 and darts don't want walk on girls anymore, that's ok. If a Turkish restaurant wants belly dancers, that's ok too.

    I agree with that.
  • Bedsaddick
    Bedsaddick Posts: 24,736
    SuedeAdidas said:

    Bedsaddick said:

    Of course it’s alright . Why on earth not ? It’s a traditional form of entertainment.

    So is bullfighting
    Sorry . You’re right . I perfect comparison...
  • Oggy Red
    Oggy Red Posts: 44,955

    Lots of women love to belly dance in the UK. My ex-GF went to belly dancing classes and was full of enthusiasm for it.

    Why would you want to ban something that many women enjoy?

  • aliwibble
    aliwibble Posts: 26,277
    Should've gone Covered End, they could've taught you some moves.
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  • Huskaris
    Huskaris Posts: 9,848
    edited July 2018
    It's a classic dilemma. How can I criticise the objectification of women, if the culture is foreign? Which one of my virtue signals ring loudest? It's a tough one, consult those mentioned in your opening post.
  • Covered End
    Covered End Posts: 51,993
    Oggy Red said:


    Lots of women love to belly dance in the UK. My ex-GF went to belly dancing classes and was full of enthusiasm for it.

    Why would you want to ban something that many women enjoy?

    I wouldn't want to. Many women enjoy doing the walk on at darts and F1 though ?
  • carly burn
    carly burn Posts: 19,459
    There's belly dancers......And then there's Orpington belly dancers!

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  • soapy_jones
    soapy_jones Posts: 21,350
    Where are our resident CL hand wringers anyway, still blowing up the Trump blimp?
  • Chizz
    Chizz Posts: 28,331
    Covered End said:

    I got invited to a Turkish Restaurant with belly dancing tonight in Orpington.
    I politely declined and explained that I didn't think Leuth and Chizz would approve :-)
    I mean if walk on ladies at the darts and at the F1 aren't showing women in the right "light", surely belly dancing should now be outdated.

    So what do people think ? No arguing please, just polite opinions :-)

    I think you made the right choice. I genuinely can think of few things less enjoyable than going to Orpington.
  • charltonJ
    charltonJ Posts: 521
    That's it im offended
  • DaveMehmet
    DaveMehmet Posts: 21,598
    SporadicAddick said:

    Any display of joy or culture that demeans one of the 16 current official genders should be banned - alternatively, we could just appreciate life and enjoy a kebab and a flash of belly button that has, quite frankly, never hurt anyone.

    I don’t think they get their kebabs out.
  • SuedeAdidas
    SuedeAdidas Posts: 7,740
    Bedsaddick said:

    SuedeAdidas said:

    Bedsaddick said:

    Of course it’s alright . Why on earth not ? It’s a traditional form of entertainment.

    So is bullfighting
    Sorry . You’re right . I perfect comparison...
    Haha. I’m fucking about.

    I couldn’t give a monkeys.
  • cafcfan
    cafcfan Posts: 11,198
    edited July 2018
    When you say "invited", I assume that means you were not expected to pick up the bill (or even your share of it) and you turned it down because there might be a bit of flesh wobbling about?

    You turned down free food?

    Edited to add: Personally I thought the food hygiene rating would be the first thing to check. So I did it for you - Hisar Meze Bar 4 star -good - rated as recently as April.
  • Croydon
    Croydon Posts: 12,728
    That's a really good Turkish actually, so you've missed out on a good meal.

    I can't comment on the standard of belly dancers as they weren't on when I've been, but judging by the overall quality of human in Orpington I can't imagine it would be something you'd enjoy while eating.

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