Looking a shadow of himself over last couple of games.
Could well be fitness but his body langue says it’s something more.
His body language after Alfie scored the winner was he was knacked, so he is far from 100% fit. In the two games since its a nightmare being a striker with a poor service.
Bloke is coming back from a long term injury, and has got two goals and an assist in a team which are struggling overall. Yet because he potentially may be moving away from the club apparently his 'body language' is showing he does not care......
Bloke is coming back from a long term injury, and has got two goals and an assist in a team which are struggling overall. Yet because he potentially may be moving away from the club apparently his 'body language' is showing he does not care......
Bloke is coming back from a long term injury, and has got two goals and an assist in a team which are struggling overall. Yet because he potentially may be moving away from the club apparently his 'body language' is showing he does not care......
Where have I said he does not care?
What did you mean by 'Could well be fitness but his body langue says it’s something more' then?
Bloke is coming back from a long term injury, and has got two goals and an assist in a team which are struggling overall. Yet because he potentially may be moving away from the club apparently his 'body language' is showing he does not care......
Where have I said he does not care?
What did you mean by 'Could well be fitness but his body langue says it’s something more' then?
To me his body langue was not normal lively positive Lyle.
I said something else not he does not care. That something else could be anything from struggling himself, finding it frustrating in this side, problems on mind, club wanting to sell him anything other than just fitness.
you have assumed something that I literally did not say.
I have never accused Lyle of not caring. In fact I thought and mentioned it at the time he handle his possible move in the summer well and professional.
Bloke is coming back from a long term injury, and has got two goals and an assist in a team which are struggling overall. Yet because he potentially may be moving away from the club apparently his 'body language' is showing he does not care......
Where have I said he does not care?
What did you mean by 'Could well be fitness but his body langue says it’s something more' then?
To me his body langue was not normal lively positive Lyle.
I said something else not he does not care. That something else could be anything from struggling himself, finding it frustrating in this side, problems on mind, club wanting to sell him anything other than just fitness.
you have assumed something that I literally did but say.
I have never accused Lyle of not caring. In fact I thought and mentioned it at the time he handle his possible move in the summer well and professional.
Fair enough, I read into what you said another way so I apologies for that. Either way I think you are applying some form of confirmation bias to a view point that you think Lyle is acting differently/has behind the scenes problems. Apart from maybe understandably not being as match sharp as he would like to be, I see nothing different in the way he is acting to how he was pre-injury.
I don’t remember players needing a month to get up to speed after being out for two and half months..... it seems like he has been back for ages and he still can’t play more than 45 mins?
Doesn’t add up to me. I get players need a couple of games off the bench but he returned a month ago.... how long to get over two months out?
Bloke is coming back from a long term injury, and has got two goals and an assist in a team which are struggling overall. Yet because he potentially may be moving away from the club apparently his 'body language' is showing he does not care......
Where have I said he does not care?
What did you mean by 'Could well be fitness but his body langue says it’s something more' then?
To me his body langue was not normal lively positive Lyle.
I said something else not he does not care. That something else could be anything from struggling himself, finding it frustrating in this side, problems on mind, club wanting to sell him anything other than just fitness.
you have assumed something that I literally did but say.
I have never accused Lyle of not caring. In fact I thought and mentioned it at the time he handle his possible move in the summer well and professional.
Fair enough, I read into what you said another way so I apologies for that. Either way I think you are applying some form of confirmation bias to a view point that you think Lyle is acting differently/has behind the scenes problems. Apart from maybe understandably not being as match sharp as he would like to be, I see nothing different in the way he is acting to how he was pre-injury.
I possibly may be reading to much into him just being tired and/or lacking match fitness and seeing things not there but as said just a feeling I got.
I don’t remember players needing a month to get up to speed after being out for two and half months..... it seems like he has been back for ages and he still can’t play more than 45 mins?
Doesn’t add up to me. I get players need a couple of games off the bench but he returned a month ago.... how long to get over two months out?
As said though doesnt help the fact that there hasnt been a long break between games
Bet someone like Williams will be involved a lot quicker because there is a week to recover between games from West Brom (11th January) to Stoke City (8th February) which is five games
I don’t remember players needing a month to get up to speed after being out for two and half months..... it seems like he has been back for ages and he still can’t play more than 45 mins?
Doesn’t add up to me. I get players need a couple of games off the bench but he returned a month ago.... how long to get over two months out?
As said though doesnt help the fact that there hasnt been a long break between games
Bet someone like Williams will be involved a lot quicker because there is a week to recover between games from West Brom (11th January) to Stoke City (8th February) which is five games
It takes players a month to get up to full match fitness after a summer break. That's being injury free with intense training and matches. Lyle is being eased back in after a serious injury, I suspect it'll be towards the end of Jan we start seeing him back to his best.
He was manhandled all half, I'm not surprised he got hurt. The negative is that Lyle is injured. The positive is that all the people on here claiming that they could tell he wanted to leave because of the way his chin was aimed after a long ball look even more hilarious now
I don’t remember players needing a month to get up to speed after being out for two and half months..... it seems like he has been back for ages and he still can’t play more than 45 mins?
Doesn’t add up to me. I get players need a couple of games off the bench but he returned a month ago.... how long to get over two months out?
Since Taylor has come back from injury we have had 8 games in a month and 4 in the last 12 days. Every manager bemoans the amount of fixtures over this period and how difficult it is for players recovery, yet you are digging out a bloke that is coming back from a severe knee injury for not playing longer!
Look at Williams, he had barely played 90 minutes for us because of his injury issues but I don't see anyone having a go at him.
I didn’t agree with the vitriol here when Karlan left for a Prem team- he is very young and why wouldn’t you leave League 1 to go to the promised land. Definitely didn’t approve of the booing last month and the chants directed at him.
With Lyle, at his age, I think that CAFC made him along with AFC Wimbledon, he was with Partick Thistle and Scunthorpe prior. Naively possibly, we have new owners, he could still progress further in his career. He is 29, not the youth of Karlan .
All that said money talks and no doubt Lyle has a mortgage, family to support and needs to chase the dollar....., even more so I suppose if you are looking at that final big pay day.
Anyway hope he stays, met him a couple of time’s and he seems a decent guy.
I know it goes against a few people’s thoughts tonight, but I actually thought it was his best performance, since he’s come back from injury.
Gutting he’s now picked up another injury, but understandable why he’s had to play, as we are at rock bottom with players out, I’m guessing he could be out for 2-3 weeks?
We’ve had got to get some quality transfers over the line quickly!
I don’t remember players needing a month to get up to speed after being out for two and half months..... it seems like he has been back for ages and he still can’t play more than 45 mins?
Doesn’t add up to me. I get players need a couple of games off the bench but he returned a month ago.... how long to get over two months out?
I'm with you on this. I cant remember many players only being able to play 45 mins after being back a couple of weeks.
I don’t remember players needing a month to get up to speed after being out for two and half months..... it seems like he has been back for ages and he still can’t play more than 45 mins?
Doesn’t add up to me. I get players need a couple of games off the bench but he returned a month ago.... how long to get over two months out?
I'm with you on this. I cant remember many players only being able to play 45 mins after being back a couple of weeks.
FFS!!... There has only been one full week rest since his return, its been game after game with absolutely no break
Throw him in for 90mins every game over Xmas and he'd have gone off injured long before now!! - Its not difficult to work out, it really isnt!!!
I didn’t agree with the vitriol here when Karlan left for a Prem team- he is very young and why wouldn’t you leave League 1 to go to the promised land. Definitely didn’t approve of the booing last month and the chants directed at him.
With Lyle, at his age, I think that CAFC made him along with AFC Wimbledon, he was with Partick Thistle and Scunthorpe prior. Naively possibly, we have new owners, he could still progress further in his career. He is 29, not the youth of Karlan .
All that said money talks and no doubt Lyle has a mortgage, family to support and needs to chase the dollar....., even more so I suppose if you are looking at that final big pay day.
Anyway hope he stays, met him a couple of time’s and he seems a decent guy.
As long as he puts in 100% whilst still a Charlton player that’s all I will ask for. People expecting “loyalty” in football will be sorely disappointed, particularly as they generally expect it to be a one way street.
I don’t remember players needing a month to get up to speed after being out for two and half months..... it seems like he has been back for ages and he still can’t play more than 45 mins?
Doesn’t add up to me. I get players need a couple of games off the bench but he returned a month ago.... how long to get over two months out?
I'm with you on this. I cant remember many players only being able to play 45 mins after being back a couple of weeks.
Yet William's cant play 2 games in a row or 90 mins when at full fitness, he off too ?
I sense that some people are desperate for there to be a problem behind the scenes with him when in reality there most probably isn't.
This. If it's not his political pronouncements on Twitter, it's his body language, or having the temerity to go off and get injured when called up by his country.
Hope everyone who is slating hime will be happy when spongefoot comes back to replace him.
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you have assumed something that I literally did not say.
Doesn’t add up to me. I get players need a couple of games off the bench but he returned a month ago.... how long to get over two months out?
Hull (15mins) | 8-days rest | QPR (90-mins) | 4-days rest | Bristol City (90-mins) | 3-days rest | Derby (45-mins) | 3-days rest | Swansea (45-mins)
Bet someone like Williams will be involved a lot quicker because there is a week to recover between games from West Brom (11th January) to Stoke City (8th February) which is five games
Since he's had to nurture himself up in limited training and playing time.
I truly hope it's not another hamstring/quad injury.
Look at Williams, he had barely played 90 minutes for us because of his injury issues but I don't see anyone having a go at him.
I didn’t agree with the vitriol here when Karlan left for a Prem team- he is very young and why wouldn’t you leave League 1 to go to the promised land. Definitely didn’t approve of the booing last month and the chants directed at him.
With Lyle, at his age, I think that CAFC made him along with AFC Wimbledon, he was with Partick Thistle and Scunthorpe prior. Naively possibly, we have new owners, he could still progress further in his career. He is 29, not the youth of Karlan .
All that said money talks and no doubt Lyle has a mortgage, family to support and needs to chase the dollar....., even more so I suppose if you are looking at that final big pay day.
Anyway hope he stays, met him a couple of time’s and he seems a decent guy.
Gutting he’s now picked up another injury, but understandable why he’s had to play, as we are at rock bottom with players out, I’m guessing he could be out for 2-3 weeks?
Throw him in for 90mins every game over Xmas and he'd have gone off injured long before now!! - Its not difficult to work out, it really isnt!!!
I sense that some people are desperate for there to be a problem behind the scenes with him when in reality there most probably isn't.