He was loved and wanted at Charlton. It wasn't a big thing for him
Perhaps he’s learnt a lesson from that decision.
I don't think he will have unfortunately. Lyle is a narcissist. He's the only person who exists in his world and he can move the goalposts to align with his view any time he wants. He's also eloquent and intelligent, so his arguments make sense to him, make him feel clever and that makes them valid in his mind. When he left Charlton he justified it as being for his career, talked about his age and the importance of a last big contract, and then had a needless sly dig with his 'Big School' comments because he's not a nice person. In his mind he was justified, despite failing to fulfill his contract and letting down a team at real risk of relegation. He went to Forest fully in the mindset that he would succeed and be loved, he didn't and he wasn't and that was most certainly someone else's fault. Never his. A person with a normal brain would look back and see an error in their judgment, but fault doesn't cross the mind of a narcissist. He's gone somewhere better where they appreciate him in the way they should and everyone at Forest is bad. He didn't fail, getting 7 goals across 57 games, Forest failed him and now that he's loved again as he should be he can perform. He won't look back at Charlton, see that he could have continued on, helped keep Charlton up and left on good terms, he'll see a list of correct decisions punctuated by unreasonable reactions towards him for two years across two different clubs. The thought that if everyone you come across for two years is an arsehole then it might actually be you who's the problem will never cross his mind.
I just see him as a product of the modern day game, and the greed that exists within the game. If anyone should have a major gripe with him, it should be Lee Bowyer. Yet Bowyer signs him again, why? because Bowyer wants to keep his job at Birmingham now, and what happened with Taylor at Charlton is now irrelevant to both of them.
It matters to us the fans, but not them.
Loyalty, honesty and integrity has all but disappeared in the modern game, and I doubt we'll ever see the likes of a one club man like Keithie Peacock ever again.
I can fully understand him taking the offer to join Forest, the increase in salary was phenomenal. However, it was “the manner” in which he did so that was totally unacceptable. In short, his decision without question cost us relegation, which for everyone involved with our club, be it fan, player or employee, was shameful and classless vulgarity in the extreme.
I just see him as a product of the modern day game, and the greed that exists within the game. If anyone should have a major gripe with him, it should be Lee Bowyer. Yet Bowyer signs him again, why? because Bowyer wants to keep his job at Birmingham now, and what happened with Taylor at Charlton is now irrelevant to both of them.
It matters to us the fans, but not them.
Loyalty, honesty and integrity has all but disappeared in the modern game, and I doubt we'll ever see the likes of a one club man like Keithie Peacock ever again.
And yet for all the gnashing of teeth when he arrived, if Jackson re-signed Taylor and he scored the goals that got us promoted the fans would forget all about what Lyle did before. Success beats out all manner of behaviours.
I just see him as a product of the modern day game, and the greed that exists within the game. If anyone should have a major gripe with him, it should be Lee Bowyer. Yet Bowyer signs him again, why? because Bowyer wants to keep his job at Birmingham now, and what happened with Taylor at Charlton is now irrelevant to both of them.
It matters to us the fans, but not them.
Loyalty, honesty and integrity has all but disappeared in the modern game, and I doubt we'll ever see the likes of a one club man like Keithie Peacock ever again.
And yet for all the gnashing of teeth when he arrived, if Jackson re-signed Taylor and he scored the goals that got us promoted the fans would forget all about what Lyle did before. Success beats out all manner of behaviours.
There is an endless list of players who have done bad things, much worse than what Taylor did however they all get forgiven and end up playing week in week out whilst being applauded.
I just see him as a product of the modern day game, and the greed that exists within the game. If anyone should have a major gripe with him, it should be Lee Bowyer. Yet Bowyer signs him again, why? because Bowyer wants to keep his job at Birmingham now, and what happened with Taylor at Charlton is now irrelevant to both of them.
It matters to us the fans, but not them.
Loyalty, honesty and integrity has all but disappeared in the modern game, and I doubt we'll ever see the likes of a one club man like Keithie Peacock ever again.
And yet for all the gnashing of teeth when he arrived, if Jackson re-signed Taylor and he scored the goals that got us promoted the fans would forget all about what Lyle did before. Success beats out all manner of behaviours.
Indeed. Just as we welcomed back Killer and Flash all those years ago. How long did Flanny go on strike for? All was forgotten when they came back and started scoring again!
He was decent for us but I feel over hyped. Max open play goals in L1 in a season is something like 14 (once you strip out penalties). It's not that great.
He was decent for us but I feel over hyped. Max open play goals in L1 in a season is something like 14 (once you strip out penalties). It's not that great.
Didn't really matter that he wasn't available for those final games then?
Tell you what, I loved watching him play for us. Im sure he’ll look back and see it as the best form of his career. Sad how it ended but my ire has softened and I’d probably give him a clap if we crossed paths again now. There was clearly all sorts going on behind the scenes at the time.
He thrived on being our main man, and in a rarity of the last 15 years, actually delivered.
I like Stockley and I like Washington, but they are well below what we had with Taylor.
Tell you what, I loved watching him play for us. Im sure he’ll look back and see it as the best form of his career. Sad how it ended but my ire has softened and I’d probably give him a clap if we crossed paths again now. There was clearly all sorts going on behind the scenes at the time.
He thrived on being our main man, and in a rarity of the last 15 years, actually delivered.
I like Stockley and I like Washington, but they are well below what we had with Taylor.
I was having a coffee in the cafe this morning, reading the paper, minding my own business.
Casually I turned the page, only to be confronted with this giant ugly image. "Oh f**k off", I muttered under my breath, except it carried a bit further than I'd anticipated. A couple of the regulars looked over. They probably think of me as the tourettes guy now.
He was decent for us but I feel over hyped. Max open play goals in L1 in a season is something like 14 (once you strip out penalties). It's not that great.
Didn't really matter that he wasn't available for those final games then?
Odd comment. I said he was over hyped. Of course it mattered in the final games as he left us with a strike force of Andre Green, Hemed, Davison, Bonne and an injured Aneke. Against that lot an over hyped Taylor looked like Lionel Messi.
Tell you what, I loved watching him play for us. Im sure he’ll look back and see it as the best form of his career. Sad how it ended but my ire has softened and I’d probably give him a clap if we crossed paths again now. There was clearly all sorts going on behind the scenes at the time.
He thrived on being our main man, and in a rarity of the last 15 years, actually delivered.
I like Stockley and I like Washington, but they are well below what we had with Taylor.
Whether him playing on would've kept us up or not, hard to see us staying up the following season with all the shenanigans that went on after he left. I think his decision makes a bit more sense in that context, but I can't pretend I didn't feel hugely let down at the time.
But, yeah, I choose to focus on the good times because he was great for us until that moment and really enjoyable to watch play. And life's too short to carry hate around with you.
He couldn’t get a game at Forest and now at Millwall of the north knocking in the odd goal mainly pens.
Twat
4 goals in 9 games in a struggling Birmingham side, including 1 penalty.
He refused to play in 9 games for us. 4 goals would have kept us up with games to spare.
still unforgivable and always will be
What was unforgiveable was the fact that he wasn't offered by us the contract that his talent and performances for us deserved. If he had have, instead of being pissed about he would have signed and no doubt, played in those games. I know some people will say that he was under contract until 30 June 2020 and should have at least played until that date. Because of the bizarre circumstances surrounding that season I don't agree with that. Even if he had agreed to play until 30 June nobody knows how much his heart would have been in his performances or how good or bad he would have played. As it was, we won two and drew one of the three games that we played by that date. It seems to me that the way he left just gives some people that extra and easy excuse to attack a former player. Not that most other players, who left under normal circumstances to try to better themselves, avoid the accusations of being rubbish or money-grabbing, or both.
He was adored at Charlton. Greenwich lad come home. We supported his pink charity fundraising big time.
He was the main man. He repaid that by refusing to play as we slipped out of the Championship. Now he’s bleating on about needing to feel loved. He’s a narcissistic arsehole.
He couldn’t get a game at Forest and now at Millwall of the north knocking in the odd goal mainly pens.
Twat
4 goals in 9 games in a struggling Birmingham side, including 1 penalty.
He refused to play in 9 games for us. 4 goals would have kept us up with games to spare.
still unforgivable and always will be
What was unforgiveable was the fact that he wasn't offered by us the contract that his talent and performances for us deserved. If he had have, instead of being pissed about he would have signed and no doubt, played in those games. I know some people will say that he was under contract until 30 June 2020 and should have at least played until that date. Because of the bizarre circumstances surrounding that season I don't agree with that. Even if he had agreed to play until 30 June nobody knows how much his heart would have been in his performances or how good or bad he would have played. As it was, we won two and drew one of the three games that we played by that date. It seems to me that the way he left just gives some people that extra and easy excuse to attack a former player. Not that most other players, who left under normal circumstances to try to better themselves, avoid the accusations of being rubbish or money-grabbing, or both.
Garbage. Yes he should have been offered a new deal. But to refuse to play when we desperately needed arguably our best player and talisman is unforgivable. He was contracted and fit. Refusing to play was inexcusable and to bang on about needing to feel loved now, a veiled dig at cafc fans, shows what kind of person he is. Hopefully he retires soon so we can stop talking about him.
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It wasn't a big thing for him
That'll be when Taylor swiftly turns into Vicky Pollard
If anyone should have a major gripe with him, it should be Lee Bowyer.
Yet Bowyer signs him again, why? because Bowyer wants to keep his job at Birmingham now, and what happened with Taylor at Charlton is now irrelevant to both of them.
It matters to us the fans, but not them.
Loyalty, honesty and integrity has all but disappeared in the modern game, and I doubt we'll ever see the likes of a one club man like Keithie Peacock ever again.
However, it was “the manner” in which he did so that was totally unacceptable.
In short, his decision without question cost us relegation, which for everyone involved with our club, be it fan, player or employee, was shameful and classless vulgarity in the extreme.
How long did Flanny go on strike for?
All was forgotten when they came back and started scoring again!
Casually I turned the page, only to be confronted with this giant ugly image. "Oh f**k off", I muttered under my breath, except it carried a bit further than I'd anticipated. A couple of the regulars looked over. They probably think of me as the tourettes guy now.
still unforgivable and always will be
I know some people will say that he was under contract until 30 June 2020 and should have at least played until that date. Because of the bizarre circumstances surrounding that season I don't agree with that. Even if he had agreed to play until 30 June nobody knows how much his heart would have been in his performances or how good or bad he would have played. As it was, we won two and drew one of the three games that we played by that date.
It seems to me that the way he left just gives some people that extra and easy excuse to attack a former player. Not that most other players, who left under normal circumstances to try to better themselves, avoid the accusations of being rubbish or money-grabbing, or both.
He repaid that by refusing to play as we slipped out of the Championship.
Now he’s bleating on about needing to feel loved.
He’s a narcissistic arsehole.