If Forest made him available for a loan in the summer and Sandgaard was prepared to pay the loan fee and % of his wages, who would be happy to have him back?
Yann was brilliant as a target man for us, combined being a beast with class and flair, a rare combination. He then did it again at Bournemouth. They played better football than us, they used him more as a 10 to link the play rather than battle in the air against centre backs. Either way he was just as good and could play either role or somewhere in between comfortably. Great all round player, pace was the main thing he lacked.
Taylor was also very good all round, he had that pace that Yann didn't, so as well as dropping deep he was effective getting in behind and particularly drifting out wide. The diamond with Grant and some of the midfielders we had that year was perfect for him. The difference that pace makes is easy to underestimate, though Yann made up for it by being better in the air, more dangerous from free kicks and a more creative passer.
I wonder if Taylor still has the same hunger now he's got the big contract he was after. Don't blame him for going after what is probably the only big contract he'll get during his career, but I'll never agree with the way he left. Just one goal from him might have kept us up.
On overall ability the gap between them was closer than many will admit. The difference is Yann maintained that level of performance over a longer period and for more than one club. Taylor looks unlikely to get back to the level he was at and I doubt that bothers him too much.
Yann will always be remembered for what he achieved with us, Taylor will be remembered for the way he let us down.
I don’t think Taylor will be enjoying empty stadiums. He fed of the stick he would get from opposing fans. He needs to feel like he’s got a point to prove. I don’t think he has that anymore.
His agent got him more money. Taylor is not a Charlton fan, he's a professional footballer. Half a dozen bad games and there would be 5000 posts on the Has Lyle Taylor Lost It? thread. If we think then long term Taylor would have made more money by staying and developing as a footballer then fair enough.
He's not even a Football fan, he's admitted himself that he doesnt "get" the whole tribalism of the sport
It's ok to have a unique opinion and go against the regime. Nothing wrong with it and it can be a form of entertainment. The nutcase will always thrive.
Lyle is just a bit lost though.
He doesn't play football for anyone, other then himself and It's boring. A championship footballer player that thinks he's a maverick and or a philosopher. I doubt he has any mates in that forest dressing room.
If you want to go down that road, fair enough, up to you.
The non football fan quote is just a defence mechanism because he does actually still feel guilty about his betrayal to the club that made him.
He knows he's a knobhead. At least that's something.
Won't ever admit it though.
He feels guilty about leaving? Absolute rubbish, why would he?
If Forest made him available for a loan in the summer and Sandgaard was prepared to pay the loan fee and % of his wages, who would be happy to have him back?
if he scored 30 goals and we stormed the league I wouldn't care (fickle, me, yes)
If Forest made him available for a loan in the summer and Sandgaard was prepared to pay the loan fee and % of his wages, who would be happy to have him back?
If Forest made him available for a loan in the summer and Sandgaard was prepared to pay the loan fee and % of his wages, who would be happy to have him back?
No, I want us to build a squad of hungry players with most of them signing with the intention to be here for the longer term and grow with us.
Good to have a few older players but they aren’t the ones you want to build a team around. Taylor would expect to be the main man. He had that chance when he was here and let us down when we really needed him for a handful of games.
If Forest made him available for a loan in the summer and Sandgaard was prepared to pay the loan fee and % of his wages, who would be happy to have him back?
If forest make Murray permanent Taylor will be on his way no doubt, struggling championship side my bet, struggling as in lower end budget. Rotherham, Millwall, Coventry.
If Forest made him available for a loan in the summer and Sandgaard was prepared to pay the loan fee and % of his wages, who would be happy to have him back?
Maybe a massive club like Wednesday will take him on but he may be back in League One.
If he came back to L1 you can guarantee when he played us he'd ransack us. Our fans would give him so much abuse he'd get so amped up he'd probably reach his final form, go Super Saiyan and score a hat-trick in front of the Covered End.
Maybe a massive club like Wednesday will take him on but he may be back in League One.
If he came back to L1 you can guarantee when he played us he'd ransack us. Our fans would give him so much abuse he'd get so amped up he'd probably reach his final form, go Super Saiyan and score a hat-trick in front of the Covered End.
We should re-sign him. The amount of abuse our own fans would give him would fire him up so much he bag 30 goals in no time!
Why is it such a strange thing to say that taylor was better. Yann had a 1 in 3 record, Taylor better than 1 in 2. A striker is a goalscorer. We were half the team without Lyle in 2018 19 and look at the impact it had when he got injured last season.
So if Taylor has a 1 in 2, and say Vardy has a scoring record of 1 in 3.... Taylor is better than Jamie Vardy?
This is Lyle's second year in the Championship, has 15-goals in total!!
Yann scored that many in one season for Bouremouth which got them promoted to the Premier League - He then got 18-goals for Reading, got them to the Play-Off Final, and got 12-goals for Charlton in a single season which almost got us to the Play-Offs
All that beginning from the same age that Lyle is now - So lets see if he can replicate Yann's scoring at this level?
If he can then I'll concede the point that Lyle is better than Kermorgant
Im talking about their time with us, I couldn't care less about either of there records for other teams. Lyle is a lot more reliant on pace, so I don't think he will have the same longevity, his injury last year lost him a yard or two.
Not sure that’s true. Karlan was much quicker than Taylor - it was certainly *his* main weapon. Taylor said he envied Karlan’s pace, although he was no slouch himself.
Lyle coming back to league one would be nowhere near as much a threat as he was, think how unmotivated he’d be on less money and two jumps away from the premiership. Although as someone mentioned he’d morph into messi against us for sure.
Taylor up top with Aneke or Stockley wouldn't work. He needs a poacher playing off of him, like KAG, or Vetokele when he came back into the side in our promotion season. Would partner Schwartz well though.
If Forest made him available for a loan in the summer and Sandgaard was prepared to pay the loan fee and % of his wages, who would be happy to have him back?
A very interesting question. Our fans would give him dogs abuse (I would - a first for me towards a Charlton player). Given he thrives off of that he'd probably do well!!
A definite no from me. Someone has already mentioned their preference for young players hungry to play for Charlton, and that is the sort of player i'd prefer.
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Good to have a few older players but they aren’t the ones you want to build a team around. Taylor would expect to be the main man. He had that chance when he was here and let us down when we really needed him for a handful of games.
A very interesting question. Our fans would give him dogs abuse (I would - a first for me towards a Charlton player). Given he thrives off of that he'd probably do well!!
A definite no from me. Someone has already mentioned their preference for young players hungry to play for Charlton, and that is the sort of player i'd prefer.
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