Phillips needs to get experience to improve - we either play him or get rid. He played 36 times for Cheltenham and helped them win the National League. Darren Randolph and Robbie Elliott both got their initial experience in the Conference and kicked on from there.
I do think some of our fans are desperate for Phillips to fail and seem unwilling to give him a chance. I have faith in him but if the club don't then they should move him on.
I doubt any Charlton fan really wants a promising young academy graduate to fail.
Clearly not up to much if he’s ended up there, most of our fans reckoned he’d be a starter in the championship by now when he left. Never rated him much personally.
Phillips needs to get experience to improve - we either play him or get rid. He played 36 times for Cheltenham and helped them win the National League. Darren Randolph and Robbie Elliott both got their initial experience in the Conference and kicked on from there.
I do think some of our fans are desperate for Phillips to fail and seem unwilling to give him a chance. I have faith in him but if the club don't then they should move him on.
I doubt any Charlton fan really wants a promising young academy graduate to fail.
We have a minority of negative fans like most clubs - my fear with the lack of faith shown in Phillips is that some fans won't give him a chance. That is par for the course in football. I've seen enough players scapegoated over the years.
Clearly not up to much if he’s ended up there, most of our fans reckoned he’d be a starter in the championship by now when he left. Never rated him much personally.
He joined Huddersfield as their second choice left back. They then got promoted to the Prem which there’s no way he’d have been ready for.
He then spent all of last season injured after getting injured on his Portsmouth debut.
It’s not really worked out for him in terms of getting regular football at one club. That’s not necessarily because of a lack of ability.
He’s 22, there’s still time for him to make in the Championship if the injury hasn’t set him back too much.
Phillips needs to get experience to improve - we either play him or get rid. He played 36 times for Cheltenham and helped them win the National League. Darren Randolph and Robbie Elliott both got their initial experience in the Conference and kicked on from there.
I do think some of our fans are desperate for Phillips to fail and seem unwilling to give him a chance. I have faith in him but if the club don't then they should move him on.
That’s incredibly harsh.
Happy to give Phillips a chance and really want him to succeed, but the “chance” element surely indicates risk which means there’s a possibility it doesn’t work out. What then? We just stick with him or some other child from the youth team until the January window? That’s to big a risk to take at goalkeeper.
We have to sign another ‘keeper to compete with Phillips as a priority.
Clearly not up to much if he’s ended up there, most of our fans reckoned he’d be a starter in the championship by now when he left. Never rated him much personally.
Agree. Because he was quick and young alot of our fans said he had potential but I never rated him at all. Postional sense was terrible. Id be amazed if he goes on to play above league one level. Very similar to Cedric Evina.....and simply not that good in my opinion.
Clearly not up to much if he’s ended up there, most of our fans reckoned he’d be a starter in the championship by now when he left. Never rated him much personally.
Agree. Because he was quick and young alot of our fans said he had potential but I never rated him at all. Postional sense was terrible. Id be amazed if he goes on to play above league one level. Very similar to Cedric Evina.....and simply not that good in my opinion.
Clearly not up to much if he’s ended up there, most of our fans reckoned he’d be a starter in the championship by now when he left. Never rated him much personally.
Agree. Because he was quick and young alot of our fans said he had potential but I never rated him at all. Postional sense was terrible. Id be amazed if he goes on to play above league one level. Very similar to Cedric Evina.....and simply not that good in my opinion.
Clearly not up to much if he’s ended up there, most of our fans reckoned he’d be a starter in the championship by now when he left. Never rated him much personally.
Agree. Because he was quick and young alot of our fans said he had potential but I never rated him at all. Postional sense was terrible. Id be amazed if he goes on to play above league one level. Very similar to Cedric Evina.....and simply not that good in my opinion.
Did you rate Pope or Fox? Players can improve.
Well, Pope has.
And Fox was a squad player in the Championship last season, which is a higher than most expected him to play at.
Phillips needs to get experience to improve - we either play him or get rid. He played 36 times for Cheltenham and helped them win the National League. Darren Randolph and Robbie Elliott both got their initial experience in the Conference and kicked on from there.
I do think some of our fans are desperate for Phillips to fail and seem unwilling to give him a chance. I have faith in him but if the club don't then they should move him on.
That’s incredibly harsh.
Happy to give Phillips a chance and really want him to succeed, but the “chance” element surely indicates risk which means there’s a possibility it doesn’t work out. What then? We just stick with him or some other child from the youth team until the January window? That’s to big a risk to take at goalkeeper.
We have to sign another ‘keeper to compete with Phillips as a priority.
Phillips is hardly a child and I'm not saying we shouldn't sign another keeper as backup.
It's not harsh to say that some of our fans enjoy scapegoating players - it's been going on for as long as I can remember. If you don't show confidence in a player you're setting them up to fail if they make a mistake.
Goalkeepers get plenty of stick - Pope's confidence was hardly helped by some of the cockheads in our fanbase. There is no real point Phillips being here to be an understudy at a L1 club - play him or let him go.
It's always a 'chance' to play any player but that's life. There are plenty of other keepers available out there as a backup in case of injury or loss of form - it would make sense to sign one. I don't know enough about Maynard-Brewer to pass judgement but he does lack experience.
I hope Phillips gets a decent run and that if he does make a mistake the fans keep behind him. I think he can be a good keeper.
I think Phillips will flourish if given the chance - confidence isn't something he lacks - better off getting s cheap over the hill back up and putting any money elsewhere, like another striker or CM
Think we have to take a chance with Phillips. We don’t have the budget for an Amos or Rudd and sooner or later we must get a GK who is ours and is first choice. We’ve been in the same situation for the last few seasons under Duchatelet and it’s not good to have continued uncertainty over one of the most important positions in the team. Give Phillips the shirt. We’ll have all the answers we need by Christmas. Not ideal but a loan could come in January if Phillips disappoints. The squad is inadequate on a lot of levels and I don’t think GK is going to be the end of our woes this term.
He was unlucky to be replaced by Rudd after he had recovered from injury the season before last. He was keeping well enough to have deserved a longer run in the side.
I like Phillips . Give him more games and he will improve . Has a good understanding with the defence , something a new keeper wouldn't have , and his distribution is good .
I like Phillips . Give him more games and he will improve . Has a good understanding with the defence , something a new keeper wouldn't have , and his distribution is good .
The only trouble is if he does well RD will sell him...
I like Phillips . Give him more games and he will improve . Has a good understanding with the defence , something a new keeper wouldn't have , and his distribution is good .
The only trouble is if he does well RD will sell him...
Exactly. People saying 'we need our own keeper', 'don't want another loan' etc etc, failing to remember that any young player who has a decent season won't be ours for much longer anyway.
He's played nearly 50 professional games in the Football League and is now 23. This isn't a complete rookie kid.
Fraid he's only had eight starts in the Football League... the rest have been in the Conference
But agreed he's not a rookie, there isnt the gap between League One and Conference like 10 years ago, and then Rob Elliot went from winning the Conference with Accrington to playing in the Championship with only a handful of League One / Two appearances between
That sounds very much like he see Phillips as number 1 and wants loan as back up.
There's no way that George long would of come in to be back up so to me that say we're looking for a number 1
My take is that Bowyer wants to bring in a keeper who's capable of being no1 ....... but I also believe Bowyer thinks Phillips too is capable of being first choice.
He wants the competition of 2 reliable keepers - keeping both of them on their toes, fighting for the 1st team shirt. They will know that. It should give both keepers an edge to their game.
I like Phillips . Give him more games and he will improve . Has a good understanding with the defence , something a new keeper wouldn't have , and his distribution is good .
The only trouble is if he does well RD will sell him...
Hardly
He's only got a year on his contract anyway, More likely is that if he does well, he'll just walk off
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Good luck to him, a very good player for League One.
I've seen enough players scapegoated over the years.
He then spent all of last season injured after getting injured on his Portsmouth debut.
It’s not really worked out for him in terms of getting regular football at one club. That’s not necessarily because of a lack of ability.
He’s 22, there’s still time for him to make in the Championship if the injury hasn’t set him back too much.
Happy to give Phillips a chance and really want him to succeed, but the “chance” element surely indicates risk which means there’s a possibility it doesn’t work out. What then? We just stick with him or some other child from the youth team until the January window? That’s to big a risk to take at goalkeeper.
We have to sign another ‘keeper to compete with Phillips as a priority.
It's not harsh to say that some of our fans enjoy scapegoating players - it's been going on for as long as I can remember. If you don't show confidence in a player you're setting them up to fail if they make a mistake.
Goalkeepers get plenty of stick - Pope's confidence was hardly helped by some of the cockheads in our fanbase. There is no real point Phillips being here to be an understudy at a L1 club - play him or let him go.
It's always a 'chance' to play any player but that's life. There are plenty of other keepers available out there as a backup in case of injury or loss of form - it would make sense to sign one. I don't know enough about Maynard-Brewer to pass judgement but he does lack experience.
I hope Phillips gets a decent run and that if he does make a mistake the fans keep behind him. I think he can be a good keeper.
He's played nearly 50 professional games in the Football League and is now 23. This isn't a complete rookie kid.
But agreed he's not a rookie, there isnt the gap between League One and Conference like 10 years ago, and then Rob Elliot went from winning the Conference with Accrington to playing in the Championship with only a handful of League One / Two appearances between
He wants the competition of 2 reliable keepers - keeping both of them on their toes, fighting for the 1st team shirt.
They will know that. It should give both keepers an edge to their game.
He's only got a year on his contract anyway, More likely is that if he does well, he'll just walk off