England Cricket Tour of New Zealand, 2017/18 (with no cricket in 2017)
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Yep - here he is doing so when playing against Kent:JohnBoyUK said:Hold on one darn minute. Reading on the BBC, they actually used sandpaper?!?! Actually bloody sandpaper?!?!
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Yep. Turns out that even when they did the press conference and came clean and admitted it.........they still lied by saying it was tape.JohnBoyUK said:Hold on one darn minute. Reading on the BBC, they actually used sandpaper?!?! Actually bloody sandpaper?!?!
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It seems really dubious that Warner would have concocted such a plan out of the blue.
Can you imagine the likes of Root and Cook roughing the ball up this way without asking the pace bowlers first?
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Nice to see that it's not just our men who can't bat on the sub-continent
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Just watched a sky masterclass with Wasim Akram from a while back.
He said the whole team had a responsibility in the field to keep the ball in the condition that would benefit the bowlers.Not to the lengths the Ozzies took, but keeping one side rough and the other shiny. Can't believe only three of them knew what was going on.
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Has more to do with team-mates being apoplectic about being shown up. Lehmann may not survive, and none of the three will play test cricket again.Addick Addict said:
They have but I think we should give CA some credit for 12 months bans of their best two batsmen as they didn't need to do anything - especially when one looks at the previous bans imposed:wmcf123 said:they've made themselves look even more daft by daring to suggest that Lehmann knew nothing about any of it.
Atherton - fined £2,000
Tendulkar - one match ban overturned on appeal and the Indian cricket board refused to accept former England captain Denness as match referee for the third Test and it proceeded but was declared unofficial
Inzamam ul-Haq - banned for four matches
Afridi - banned for two T20 matches
Du Plessis - fined 100% of his match fee and given three penalty points
I would not be surprised if the players don't appeal and the bans aren't, ultimately, cut in half.0 -
I think smith will, Bancroft will need to improve spectacularly to be considered again. Warner? Did someone say Mervyn Westfield?harveys_gardener said:
Has more to do with team-mates being apoplectic about being shown up. Lehmann may not survive, and none of the three will play test cricket again.Addick Addict said:
They have but I think we should give CA some credit for 12 months bans of their best two batsmen as they didn't need to do anything - especially when one looks at the previous bans imposed:wmcf123 said:they've made themselves look even more daft by daring to suggest that Lehmann knew nothing about any of it.
Atherton - fined £2,000
Tendulkar - one match ban overturned on appeal and the Indian cricket board refused to accept former England captain Denness as match referee for the third Test and it proceeded but was declared unofficial
Inzamam ul-Haq - banned for four matches
Afridi - banned for two T20 matches
Du Plessis - fined 100% of his match fee and given three penalty points
I would not be surprised if the players don't appeal and the bans aren't, ultimately, cut in half.1 - Sponsored links:
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I hope they do appeal.Addick Addict said:
They have but I think we should give CA some credit for 12 months bans of their best two batsmen as they didn't need to do anything - especially when one looks at the previous bans imposed:wmcf123 said:they've made themselves look even more daft by daring to suggest that Lehmann knew nothing about any of it.
Atherton - fined £2,000
Tendulkar - one match ban overturned on appeal and the Indian cricket board refused to accept former England captain Denness as match referee for the third Test and it proceeded but was declared unofficial
Inzamam ul-Haq - banned for four matches
Afridi - banned for two T20 matches
Du Plessis - fined 100% of his match fee and given three penalty points
I would not be surprised if the players don't appeal and the bans aren't, ultimately, cut in half.
Because it will be a very expensive and futile waste of time and money.0 -
Is the Ashes the next series that Smith could theoretically be picked for? If so, and if he is, I imagine he will be in for a very interesting welcome.0
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Think so. The 12 month ban lasts up until their series against Pakistan in the UAE in March 2019. Presumably they will play in the following IPL in March and the Australian national team's next fixture is the Ashes in the summer of 2019.Chizz said:Is the Ashes the next series that Smith could theoretically be picked for? If so, and if he is, I imagine he will be in for a very interesting welcome.
Suspect Smith will be straight back in the side but not so sure about Warner.0 -
So it appears that Vince is going to bat at 7 and assuming Stokes can't bowl we will only have four front line bowlers including debutante Leach?0
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You'd think it's Vince 3, Root 4, Malan 5, Stokes 6, Bairstow 7, Overton 8. I don't think they would have dropped the fourth seamer if Stokes could not bowl.Addick Addict said:So it appears that Vince is going to bat at 7 and assuming Stokes can't bowl we will only have four front line bowlers including debutante Leach?
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I'd agree with this. Altgough would have Woakes over Overton any day.Callumcafc said:
You'd think it's Vince 3, Root 4, Malan 5, Stokes 6, Bairstow 7, Overton 8. I don't think they would have dropped the fourth seamer if Stokes could not bowl.Addick Addict said:So it appears that Vince is going to bat at 7 and assuming Stokes can't bowl we will only have four front line bowlers including debutante Leach?
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Not from what I've read - think they want to give Root a run at 3 and promote Bairstow which is right in both cases. Equally, Vince will be under less pressure at 7.Callumcafc said:
You'd think it's Vince 3, Root 4, Malan 5, Stokes 6, Bairstow 7, Overton 8. I don't think they would have dropped the fourth seamer if Stokes could not bowl.Addick Addict said:So it appears that Vince is going to bat at 7 and assuming Stokes can't bowl we will only have four front line bowlers including debutante Leach?
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Watching a review/preview of the match on Sky the other night they were saying that the pitch doesn't take spin & you'd be crazy to play a spinner there. No need to play Leach - bowlers being Wood, Overton, Broad & Anderson. Also they were saying Foakes should come in & play Bairstow higher up as a batsman only.1
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Agree with Foakes in and Bairstow to play as a batsman. Won't happen though.golfaddick said:Watching a review/preview of the match on Sky the other night they were saying that the pitch doesn't take spin & you'd be crazy to play a spinner there. No need to play Leach - bowlers being Wood, Overton, Broad & Anderson. Also they were saying Foakes should come in & play Bairstow higher up as a batsman only.
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So who's in charge of the sandpaper?Callumcafc said:0 -
Cant think youd be pick Vince to play and bat him number 7 ?Addick Addict said:
Not from what I've read - think they want to give Root a run at 3 and promote Bairstow which is right in both cases. Equally, Vince will be under less pressure at 7.Callumcafc said:
You'd think it's Vince 3, Root 4, Malan 5, Stokes 6, Bairstow 7, Overton 8. I don't think they would have dropped the fourth seamer if Stokes could not bowl.Addick Addict said:So it appears that Vince is going to bat at 7 and assuming Stokes can't bowl we will only have four front line bowlers including debutante Leach?
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I'm actually feeling a little sorry for Smith. Think he allowed Warner to influence him and believe that a 6 month ban would be more than enough recompense provided it does turn out to be a worldwide ban (there is a chance he could play county cricket for example). Equally, Bancroft's should be 6 months too because he lied in the press conference too. As for Warner I would just lock him up in a cell with KP and throw away the key!1
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According to the BBC - "All-rounder Ben Stokes is unlikely to bowl in the match because of a back injury, and did not bowl at nets on Thursday."Callumcafc said:
You'd think it's Vince 3, Root 4, Malan 5, Stokes 6, Bairstow 7, Overton 8. I don't think they would have dropped the fourth seamer if Stokes could not bowl.Addick Addict said:So it appears that Vince is going to bat at 7 and assuming Stokes can't bowl we will only have four front line bowlers including debutante Leach?
Which is the point I made previously about dropping both Woakes and Ali - you have to either replace them with two bowlers in which case you weaken the batting (if that's possible at the moment) or one batsman and one bowler in which case we go into the Test with just four front line bowlers.0 -
I'm not saying that is what I would do - I too would go down the Foakes route but Bairsotw doesn't want to give up the gloves. The other issue with Bairstow batting at 7 is that we know he is capable of getting a big score at this level but having him there with potentially Overton, Broad, Leach and Anderson to come (as opposed to batting at 6 with Ali and Woakes behind him) means he will probably have little or no chance of doing so.lolwray said:
Cant think youd be pick Vince to play and bat him number 7 ?Addick Addict said:
Not from what I've read - think they want to give Root a run at 3 and promote Bairstow which is right in both cases. Equally, Vince will be under less pressure at 7.Callumcafc said:
You'd think it's Vince 3, Root 4, Malan 5, Stokes 6, Bairstow 7, Overton 8. I don't think they would have dropped the fourth seamer if Stokes could not bowl.Addick Addict said:So it appears that Vince is going to bat at 7 and assuming Stokes can't bowl we will only have four front line bowlers including debutante Leach?
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They may think that on a non-spin friendly pitch, that Root is accurate enough to hold up and end and allow rotation of the 4 seamers?Addick Addict said:
According to the BBC - "All-rounder Ben Stokes is unlikely to bowl in the match because of a back injury, and did not bowl at nets on Thursday."Callumcafc said:
You'd think it's Vince 3, Root 4, Malan 5, Stokes 6, Bairstow 7, Overton 8. I don't think they would have dropped the fourth seamer if Stokes could not bowl.Addick Addict said:So it appears that Vince is going to bat at 7 and assuming Stokes can't bowl we will only have four front line bowlers including debutante Leach?
Which is the point I made previously about dropping both Woakes and Ali - you have to either replace them with two bowlers in which case you weaken the batting (if that's possible at the moment) or one batsman and one bowler in which case we go into the Test with just four front line bowlers.1 -
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I'm actually feeling a little sorry for Smith. Think he allowed Warner to influence him and believe that a 6 month ban would be more than enough recompense provided it does turn out to be a worldwide ban (there is a chance he could play county cricket for example). Equally, Bancroft's should be 6 months too because he lied in the press conference too. As for Warner I would just lock him up in a cell with KP and throw away the key!
Don't feel sorry for Smith. He is supposed to be the captain but has shown what a weak character he is, undeserving of the honour.
I agree with you on Warner. He is a bully and they always prey on the weak, in this case a spineless captain and a struggling junior bowler desperate to keep his place in the team.4 -
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