A 3 year deal is quite long for someone who's fairly inexperienced. Not sure we desperately needed another seamer, trying to think of anyone who might be leaving after this season
Have we signed Dexter ?
I hope not as I don't think we need an out of form 34 year old journeyman who turned down a 3 year contract to join Middlesex a decade ago is what we need.
Yes I know Denly did this but he only left for 4 years before returning home at the age of 28.
Agreed. I had assumed that he was being signed as a (inadequate) Stevens replacement; now Stevo has signed a new deal, perhaps it has fallen through
A 3 year deal is quite long for someone who's fairly inexperienced. Not sure we desperately needed another seamer, trying to think of anyone who might be leaving after this season
Have we signed Dexter ?
I hope not as I don't think we need an out of form 34 year old journeyman who turned down a 3 year contract to join Middlesex a decade ago is what we need.
Yes I know Denly did this but he only left for 4 years before returning home at the age of 28.
Agreed. I had assumed that he was being signed as a (inadequate) Stevens replacement; now Stevo has signed a new deal, perhaps it has fallen through
I'm of the belief that Stewart is seen as Stevens' eventual replacement
A 3 year deal is quite long for someone who's fairly inexperienced. Not sure we desperately needed another seamer, trying to think of anyone who might be leaving after this season
Have we signed Dexter ?
I hope not as I don't think we need an out of form 34 year old journeyman who turned down a 3 year contract to join Middlesex a decade ago is what we need.
Yes I know Denly did this but he only left for 4 years before returning home at the age of 28.
Agreed. I had assumed that he was being signed as a (inadequate) Stevens replacement; now Stevo has signed a new deal, perhaps it has fallen through
I'm of the belief that Stewart is seen as Stevens' eventual replacement
Weren't Adam Ball and Will Gidman also pencilled in to replace Stevens!
With Collingwood retiring, there can't be too many other 40 somethings playing
A 3 year deal is quite long for someone who's fairly inexperienced. Not sure we desperately needed another seamer, trying to think of anyone who might be leaving after this season
Have we signed Dexter ?
I hope not as I don't think we need an out of form 34 year old journeyman who turned down a 3 year contract to join Middlesex a decade ago is what we need.
Yes I know Denly did this but he only left for 4 years before returning home at the age of 28.
Agreed. I had assumed that he was being signed as a (inadequate) Stevens replacement; now Stevo has signed a new deal, perhaps it has fallen through
I'm of the belief that Stewart is seen as Stevens' eventual replacement
Weren't Adam Ball and Will Gidman also pencilled in to replace Stevens!
With Collingwood retiring, there can't be too many other 40 somethings playing
Or they decide to let Lancashire stay up instead, as they're a Test ground and 100 host!
There are two classes of county and we are definitely lower class.
That is simply not true. A county such as Kent that is associated with the likes of Lord Harris, Lord Cowdrey of Tonbridge and EW "Jim" Swanton is most definitely an upper class county. Sure you may see some grubby little supporters in the public seats but KCCC oozes class. @lenglover yesterday made the incorrect statement that Kent are like CAFC, they are not. Kent have an illustrious history of success and list of truly great players that have left their mark on the history of world cricket. Sure we've had some barren years but form is temporary and class is permanent.
Or they decide to let Lancashire stay up instead, as they're a Test ground and 100 host!
There are two classes of county and we are definitely lower class.
That is simply not true. A county such as Kent that is associated with the likes of Lord Harris, Lord Cowdrey of Tonbridge and EW "Jim" Swanton is most definitely an upper class county. Sure you may see some grubby little supporters in the public seats but KCCC oozes class. @lenglover yesterday made the incorrect statement that Kent are like CAFC, they are not. Kent have an illustrious history of success and list of truly great players that have left their mark on the history of world cricket. Sure we've had some barren years but form is temporary and class is permanent.
Yes, over the years Kent have provided some of England's finest cricketers and our tradition of wicketkeeper-batsmen is second to none, from Evans through to Bilbo, calling at Knott and Marsh along the way (other genius 'keepers are avaliable!). The quality of personnel is unquestioned. Past history is no guide to current status.
However, the St Lawrence Ground is not a Test ground or even a One Day International venue and over the last ten to fifteen years or so that has been the driver of the "class divide" in English cricket.
As such we are definitely lower class; the ECB would prefer their "prime" venue hosts to be flourishing, hence why the new comp is based around them.
As such we are definitely lower class; the ECB would prefer their "prime" venue hosts to be flourishing, hence why the new comp is based around them.
A split of "prime" venues between Division 1 and 2 came closer 2 or 3 years ago. Next season, Division 2 is likely to have Lancashire, Middlesex, Durham and Glamorgan. If Kent and Sussex can beat Warwickshire in the last round of CC games, it could mean that 5 "prime" venues are in Division 2 next year.
Or they decide to let Lancashire stay up instead, as they're a Test ground and 100 host!
There are two classes of county and we are definitely lower class.
That is simply not true. A county such as Kent that is associated with the likes of Lord Harris, Lord Cowdrey of Tonbridge and EW "Jim" Swanton is most definitely an upper class county. Sure you may see some grubby little supporters in the public seats but KCCC oozes class. @lenglover yesterday made the incorrect statement that Kent are like CAFC, they are not. Kent have an illustrious history of success and list of truly great players that have left their mark on the history of world cricket. Sure we've had some barren years but form is temporary and class is permanent.
Yes, over the years Kent have provided some of England's finest cricketers and our tradition of wicketkeeper-batsmen is second to none, from Evans through to Bilbo, calling at Knott and Marsh along the way (other genius 'keepers are avaliable!). The quality of personnel is unquestioned. Past history is no guide to current status.
However, the St Lawrence Ground is not a Test ground or even a One Day International venue and over the last ten to fifteen years or so that has been the driver of the "class divide" in English cricket.
As such we are definitely lower class; the ECB would prefer their "prime" venue hosts to be flourishing, hence why the new comp is based around them.
I think we are defining the word class differently.
Or they decide to let Lancashire stay up instead, as they're a Test ground and 100 host!
There are two classes of county and we are definitely lower class.
That is simply not true. A county such as Kent that is associated with the likes of Lord Harris, Lord Cowdrey of Tonbridge and EW "Jim" Swanton is most definitely an upper class county. Sure you may see some grubby little supporters in the public seats but KCCC oozes class. @lenglover yesterday made the incorrect statement that Kent are like CAFC, they are not. Kent have an illustrious history of success and list of truly great players that have left their mark on the history of world cricket. Sure we've had some barren years but form is temporary and class is permanent.
Yes, over the years Kent have provided some of England's finest cricketers and our tradition of wicketkeeper-batsmen is second to none, from Evans through to Bilbo, calling at Knott and Marsh along the way (other genius 'keepers are avaliable!). The quality of personnel is unquestioned. Past history is no guide to current status.
However, the St Lawrence Ground is not a Test ground or even a One Day International venue and over the last ten to fifteen years or so that has been the driver of the "class divide" in English cricket.
As such we are definitely lower class; the ECB would prefer their "prime" venue hosts to be flourishing, hence why the new comp is based around them.
The St Lawrence is shamed by most of the other non Test venues really, poor public facilities and the corporate stuff is little better. In terms of the population base it must be one of the worst located, too, most county grounds are at least in the most populous part of the county
Agree with you K&F, if only history had unwound slightly differently and KCCC had their main ground in the west of the country rather than the east; which is hard to get to for the majority of people.
If we had done a Surrey and snuggled up as close to the centre of London but within the historic county, then attendances and support etc would be much larger than they are. Imagine if, instead, KCCC had placed their ground in the boroughs of Lewisham or Greenwich instead.....well, they did used to play at Blackheath as far back as the seventies....
It really is a problem for them now. Country cricket isn't very profitable as it is and you need all the help that you can get. Start a petition to get them to move to Blackheath, maybe?
Agree with you K&F, if only history had unwound slightly differently and KCCC had their main ground in the west of the country rather than the east; which is hard to get to for the majority of people.
If we had done a Surrey and snuggled up as close to the centre of London but within the historic county, then attendances and support etc would be much larger than they are. Imagine if, instead, KCCC had placed their ground in the boroughs of Lewisham or Greenwich instead.....well, they did used to play at Blackheath as far back as the seventies....
It really is a problem for them now. Country cricket isn't very profitable as it is and you need all the help that you can get. Start a petition to get them to move to Blackheath, maybe?
Agree with you K&F, if only history had unwound slightly differently and KCCC had their main ground in the west of the country rather than the east; which is hard to get to for the majority of people.
If we had done a Surrey and snuggled up as close to the centre of London but within the historic county, then attendances and support etc would be much larger than they are. Imagine if, instead, KCCC had placed their ground in the boroughs of Lewisham or Greenwich instead.....well, they did used to play at Blackheath as far back as the seventies....
It really is a problem for them now. Country cricket isn't very profitable as it is and you need all the help that you can get. Start a petition to get them to move to Blackheath, maybe?
They could develop Beckenham.
They should have developed Moat Park at the County Town!
Agree with you K&F, if only history had unwound slightly differently and KCCC had their main ground in the west of the country rather than the east; which is hard to get to for the majority of people.
If we had done a Surrey and snuggled up as close to the centre of London but within the historic county, then attendances and support etc would be much larger than they are. Imagine if, instead, KCCC had placed their ground in the boroughs of Lewisham or Greenwich instead.....well, they did used to play at Blackheath as far back as the seventies....
It really is a problem for them now. Country cricket isn't very profitable as it is and you need all the help that you can get. Start a petition to get them to move to Blackheath, maybe?
They could develop Beckenham.
They should have developed Moat Park at the County Town!
Was there on Sunday. Lovely ground but has a clubhouse that has seen better days and a score box our scorer refused to sit in as he described it as a "sxxxhole".
Agree with you K&F, if only history had unwound slightly differently and KCCC had their main ground in the west of the country rather than the east; which is hard to get to for the majority of people.
If we had done a Surrey and snuggled up as close to the centre of London but within the historic county, then attendances and support etc would be much larger than they are. Imagine if, instead, KCCC had placed their ground in the boroughs of Lewisham or Greenwich instead.....well, they did used to play at Blackheath as far back as the seventies....
It really is a problem for them now. Country cricket isn't very profitable as it is and you need all the help that you can get. Start a petition to get them to move to Blackheath, maybe?
Yes, if Surrey's main ground had been in Guildford, with Kent having a massive ground in Blackheath/Greenwich, things would be very different. After all Kent have always drawn talent from all over Kent, as much talent has emerged from the London end as the rural part. In the current squad, DBD, Crawley, Blake, Riley, Robinson and Thomas all came from the Western/London side of Kent.
Agree with you K&F, if only history had unwound slightly differently and KCCC had their main ground in the west of the country rather than the east; which is hard to get to for the majority of people.
If we had done a Surrey and snuggled up as close to the centre of London but within the historic county, then attendances and support etc would be much larger than they are. Imagine if, instead, KCCC had placed their ground in the boroughs of Lewisham or Greenwich instead.....well, they did used to play at Blackheath as far back as the seventies....
It really is a problem for them now. Country cricket isn't very profitable as it is and you need all the help that you can get. Start a petition to get them to move to Blackheath, maybe?
They could develop Beckenham.
Beckenham is a useful facility, but I can't imagine it ever becoming Kent's main ground. It's nowhere near as easy to get to for a casual spectator as say The Oval
Or they decide to let Lancashire stay up instead, as they're a Test ground and 100 host!
There are two classes of county and we are definitely lower class.
That is simply not true. A county such as Kent that is associated with the likes of Lord Harris, Lord Cowdrey of Tonbridge and EW "Jim" Swanton is most definitely an upper class county. Sure you may see some grubby little supporters in the public seats but KCCC oozes class. @lenglover yesterday made the incorrect statement that Kent are like CAFC, they are not. Kent have an illustrious history of success and list of truly great players that have left their mark on the history of world cricket. Sure we've had some barren years but form is temporary and class is permanent.
That history of success is pretty patchy though. The glory days of the 1970s (which I was too young to appreciate and thus took for granted) seem an awful long time ago!
Agree with you K&F, if only history had unwound slightly differently and KCCC had their main ground in the west of the country rather than the east; which is hard to get to for the majority of people.
If we had done a Surrey and snuggled up as close to the centre of London but within the historic county, then attendances and support etc would be much larger than they are. Imagine if, instead, KCCC had placed their ground in the boroughs of Lewisham or Greenwich instead.....well, they did used to play at Blackheath as far back as the seventies....
It really is a problem for them now. Country cricket isn't very profitable as it is and you need all the help that you can get. Start a petition to get them to move to Blackheath, maybe?
Yes, if Surrey's main ground had been in Guildford, with Kent having a massive ground in Blackheath/Greenwich, things would be very different. After all Kent have always drawn talent from all over Kent, as much talent has emerged from the London end as the rural part. In the current squad, DBD, Crawley, Blake, Riley, Robinson and Thomas all came from the Western/London side of Kent.
Agree with you K&F, if only history had unwound slightly differently and KCCC had their main ground in the west of the country rather than the east; which is hard to get to for the majority of people.
If we had done a Surrey and snuggled up as close to the centre of London but within the historic county, then attendances and support etc would be much larger than they are. Imagine if, instead, KCCC had placed their ground in the boroughs of Lewisham or Greenwich instead.....well, they did used to play at Blackheath as far back as the seventies....
It really is a problem for them now. Country cricket isn't very profitable as it is and you need all the help that you can get. Start a petition to get them to move to Blackheath, maybe?
They could develop Beckenham.
Beckenham is a useful facility, but I can't imagine it ever becoming Kent's main ground. It's nowhere near as easy to get to for a casual spectator as say The Oval
Billings has to be included in that list of coming from the London end of the County making it 7 in total. Of those that have been "home grown", just Denly and Tredwell grew up at the other end of the County - and they are both into their 30s. The other 15 players used by us have been "imported" from other counties or abroad.
That might change though with 6 of last year's academy number of 9 coming from the Canterbury area. It remains to be seen, however, how many of those make pros because only Crawley and Robinson have been successful in doing so in the last half a dozen years.
No team has reached 300 at the Spitfire Ground this season in the CC - but both Kent and Warwickshire did so at Tunbridge Wells.
Deliberate to suit our bowling attack or poor preparation? Another reason to move more games away from Canterbury?
The wicket in the t20 quarter final was garbage too , although there were some ok ones in the royal London.
Adam Riley must be really hacked off that the Canterbury CC wickets have all been perfect for seam bowling, whereas the T20 QF wicket was a spinner's paradise...
Agree with you K&F, if only history had unwound slightly differently and KCCC had their main ground in the west of the country rather than the east; which is hard to get to for the majority of people.
If we had done a Surrey and snuggled up as close to the centre of London but within the historic county, then attendances and support etc would be much larger than they are. Imagine if, instead, KCCC had placed their ground in the boroughs of Lewisham or Greenwich instead.....well, they did used to play at Blackheath as far back as the seventies....
It really is a problem for them now. Country cricket isn't very profitable as it is and you need all the help that you can get. Start a petition to get them to move to Blackheath, maybe?
They could develop Beckenham.
They should have developed Moat Park at the County Town!
Growing up in the 80's in Maidstone, it was always a big week known as "Cricket Week" when Kent played a game at Mote Park. It caused a big shock in the town when they stopped it! Big it back I say.
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With Collingwood retiring, there can't be too many other 40 somethings playing
Unless Kent finish second - then it will be one.
@lenglover yesterday made the incorrect statement that Kent are like CAFC, they are not. Kent have an illustrious history of success and list of truly great players that have left their mark on the history of world cricket.
Sure we've had some barren years but form is temporary and class is permanent.
However, the St Lawrence Ground is not a Test ground or even a One Day International venue and over the last ten to fifteen years or so that has been the driver of the "class divide" in English cricket.
As such we are definitely lower class; the ECB would prefer their "prime" venue hosts to be flourishing, hence why the new comp is based around them.
If we had done a Surrey and snuggled up as close to the centre of London but within the historic county, then attendances and support etc would be much larger than they are. Imagine if, instead, KCCC had placed their ground in the boroughs of Lewisham or Greenwich instead.....well, they did used to play at Blackheath as far back as the seventies....
It really is a problem for them now. Country cricket isn't very profitable as it is and you need all the help that you can get. Start a petition to get them to move to Blackheath, maybe?
Great so we might have a chance, not convinced we can overturn Warwickshire lead?
That might change though with 6 of last year's academy number of 9 coming from the Canterbury area. It remains to be seen, however, how many of those make pros because only Crawley and Robinson have been successful in doing so in the last half a dozen years.
Deliberate to suit our bowling attack or poor preparation? Another reason to move more games away from Canterbury?
More matches at the lovely Nevill Ground would be fantastic !
Big it back I say.