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Important result and a clean sheet to boot .
0% Top two ........ 20% 3rd-6th ....... 77% 7th-12th ........3% 13th-20th .......0% Relegation
100% Roland OUT5 -
The three points are very welcome and there were definitely some positives;
- Mavididi looked very exciting and now he's added a goal I think, assuming he can stay fit (not a certainty given the bizarre physical experimentations which must be taking place at Sparrows Lane), he could be absolutely key for us the second half of this season
- Konsa looked more assured than he has done recently
- Aribo is becoming our most important player
- KAG made a mess of a chance by taking a touch when he should have buried it first time, but that didn't stop him trying to finish his next chance first time so hopefully his confidence hasn't been knocked too much
However there were still some really worrying issues;
- Central defence looked really ropey, Bauer is a liability and Lennon needs someone with more maturity alongside him. Make no mistake, an average side in League One would have scored a few against us today
- Forget Reeves, the signing I was really excited about this summer was Marshall, he has offered absolutely nothing since he came back from injury and I can only imagine that he still starts games because he suits Robinson's preferred formation...
- Robinson is still obsessed with this 4-2-3-1 formation when all reason and logic shows that it doesn't suit the players we have. Robinson will get a pass tonight, and I'm still not advocating sacking him, but his post match interview will be the usual nonsense. We have a manager that is either unwilling or unable to learn
- Josh needs a holiday, looks exhausted and is probably doing more harm than good by playing upfront on his own - we either need to change the formation or the striker.10 -
We are absolutely fucking rubbish .10
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ateamofcorygibbs said:
Really frustrating how we don't go for games when 1-0 up at home. Decent result though and back in the top 6 by my calculations. Bring on the takeover.
Side note: watched on stream and thought Lennon did really well today next to Bauer - so much more comfortable-looking than on Monday. The other poster on the marks thread gave him 3 though.
The cameras must have flattered him.
Hardly won a header all game. Sarr should have played alongside Bauer who showed a lot of skill and timing.6 -
First half was OK, second half we had to play everything through Kashi, hence we were shite. Style of play with Kashi doing that dropping deep roll kills us.
I honestly don't get the hype over this geezer.
Wins a win but trying to waste time, 25 mins from time against Oldham at home shows how far we've come..
We moved the ball quicker in first half, 2nd half was slow lazy and sloppy.
Wins a win, 2 more on the bounce and play off back on1 -
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Crusty54 said:
I'm guessing Sarr is injured as I'm pretty sure I saw him trying to drive down Floyd Road and turn into the stadium at 2:50pm with very little success, a strange decision from the big man.ateamofcorygibbs said:Really frustrating how we don't go for games when 1-0 up at home. Decent result though and back in the top 6 by my calculations. Bring on the takeover.
Side note: watched on stream and thought Lennon did really well today next to Bauer - so much more comfortable-looking than on Monday. The other poster on the marks thread gave him 3 though.
The cameras must have flattered him.
Hardly won a header all game. Sarr should have played alongside Bauer who showed a lot of skill and timing.3 -
se9addick said:
Saw he was on the bench, however he was pictured in the stands not even in Charlton training gear!?Crusty54 said:
I'm guessing Sarr is injured as I'm pretty sure I saw him trying to drive down Floyd Road and turn into the stadium at 2:50pm with very little success, a strange decision from the big man.ateamofcorygibbs said:Really frustrating how we don't go for games when 1-0 up at home. Decent result though and back in the top 6 by my calculations. Bring on the takeover.
Side note: watched on stream and thought Lennon did really well today next to Bauer - so much more comfortable-looking than on Monday. The other poster on the marks thread gave him 3 though.
The cameras must have flattered him.
Hardly won a header all game. Sarr should have played alongside Bauer who showed a lot of skill and timing.
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F-off Gobshite and take some responsibility for a gutless, p1ss poor performance. Of course we need to get more players in but most of the 11 on the pitch showed insufficient effort are afraid to pass forward, take on the opposition and go for second balls and play to your mindless formation.LouisMend said:15 -
Don't go often nowadays after refusing to renew season ticket 2 years ago and performances like that are not going to encourage me to come - was a win but felt like a defeat. No passion, no leadership, and only Amos comes out with much credit for 2 good saves.2
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On way home. 12 hrs leave 150 quid in lost wages and another £100 spent on the day. Second half sat back and were bloody pathetic. Robinson's tactics are pathetic.6
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I would also add that the schoolboy errors are still there, at various times in the game today we had minimum 3 players going to close down the same opposition today from different angles.
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Poor performance, Robbo walked off shaking his head. He is not a happy man with the way the club is currently. We are a mediocre side in a mediocre league end of, so sorry if you saw the score and not the game, no corners turned, no lessons learnt and no rot stopped. Until Roland has gone.7
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I thought I wouldn't see worse visitors to the Valley than Blackpool, Gillingham were close but Oldham take the biscuit.
Worst of all is the rotting corpse masquerading as CAFC currently made them all look decent.
Fcuk me 5 ways til Friday that was abysmal.
Clueless, aimless, half cocked, rudderless.
"...injuries...blah, blah... can't make signings... blah, blah..."
And the numpty robbing a living as manager couldn't extend his grey cell(s) to protecting the players he still had by making more than 1 sub before it was too late. Is the team really best served by leaving Jacko, Reeves, RHF or Dijksteel on the bench when Josh, Marshall to name but 2, are clearly flat out knackered/struggling.
Exactly how bad has it got to get before that fat mickey taker ever tries any one thing even 1% different?
If RH, MM or JM ain't available next Saturday we know where the blame lies.
The youngsters and squad members that gobby so blithely insults will get a run out in the fizzy pop muckabout on Tuesday but none of them have a chance in hell of promotion to Saturday's squad unless fatso has literally no options left. But with the way he is flogging the life out of his chosen few, those options are being pared back ever further.
Nice goal by SM tho8 -
Man, that second half was hard to take, the only reason I stayed awake was because I was so cold. Two average teams in a poor league. Not many clubs have individuals as skilled as Mavididi, DaSIlva, Holmes, Aribo. Konsa and Kashi are talents. The small squad is one problem but the failure to find (or even look for) a system that the players seem comfortable with is the bigger one I think. When we get into the opposition half play slows down so much it's like they are reading a 'how to' manual before launching an attack. Anyway, fingers crossed for next season.8
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Wot a load of shit one again up front, shockin performance, only bright spot for me is Aribo continues to impress.2
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Our depleted team lacking in confidence won ugly - that’s a good enough outcome for today and psychologically invaluable going into the next game. They had forgotten how to win.0
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Absolutely vital win that keeps us 13 points above the last relegation place.
Could be crucial come the end of the season.5 -
Stroll in the park first half. Holmes excellent shot hitting the bar and a fine goal from Mavadidi. Second half backs to the wall, desperate blocks and pumping the ball up into Oldham's half for them to start again. A couple of notable chances fell to KAG who chose to pass to the keeper.
Glad to get a win after such a poor run, but I don't know why it has to be quite so desperate. Brian Clough always used to say that a good player doesn't become a bad player overnight. Charlton it seems can become a bad team in the 15 minute interval.6 -
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Load of rubbish.1
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Still not playing well, not enough movement, too much of a gap between midfield and forwards so too many long balls. But good to grind out a result when not playing well, similar game to the Blackpool match but without the late agony. Amos player of the season so far for me, tarique next best0
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Amos: acquitted himself well, might have been grateful for the action that came his way despite the pony opposition
Konsa: looked less like a rb than AD
Bauer: looks most like a CB of those available, which is feint praise indeed
Lennon: still looking rusty which is perhaps understandable
DaSilva: he's looking more and more like King Canute
Kashi: competent, energetic the team's better with him in it, but for how long?
Marshall: worked harder but seems off form or confused as to his role
Aribo: decent
Holmes: energetic but ineffective and possibly clattered
Mavididi: the brightest star in this firmament
Magennis: making the best of the dross around him
Ahearne-Grant: can't blame him for fluffing his lines in his all too brief cameo, he must be equally baffled and furious by gobby's decisions, KAG did you spill his pint or nick his lunch or smthn? I think he hates you
Jackson: Shoulda been brought on 30 minutes earlier
A.N. Othersubstitute: Obviously essential to all but the person best placed to realise and act - go figure?0 -
Thought it was a poor performance but we've played better (Blackpool) and not won but that is because as the old adage goes "the best team always wins, the rest is only gossip.
Dropping Reeves and Sarr paid off with Bauer and Aribo doing better without being brilliant.
Great solo goal from SM.
The team can do better and will have to to beat better sides but for now we won.
Official gate under £10k through. Just sell the club.1 -
Succinct and to the point.cafc4life said:We are absolutely fucking rubbish .
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And factually correct:)Fortune 82nd Minute said:
Succinct and to the point.cafc4life said:We are absolutely fucking rubbish .
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Excellent use of the word turgid.
Quite concerned now that the 2nd half of this season is going to be real unpleasant viewing. Thought a win might prove a spring board but more likely to just paper over the cracks.
One real bit of quality, unpredictability won us the game. Though we apparently try and ‘play football’ its just all so one paced, predictable and seemingly easy to defend against.
Amos again earned his money, and any centre half paring we put out without Pearce in just isn’t good enough.
Painful win where we were on the back foot for the whole second half against a bottom give team.
Typical Charlton, even when we win it’s miserable :-)5 -
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Robinson unless you change you're pathetic system you are toast3 -
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Well we all knew during the second half what was inevitably going to happen, except there must have been some kind of rift in the space time continuum and it didn't, or maybe it was the return of Patrick Bauer.
This game will not live long in the memory, but the three points will linger until the end of the season.
The one glorious moment was the goal when Mavididi beat one player, beat a second, had a third in close attendance and a fourth bearing down but he drilled it in Fosu style.
As for anything else that stood out. Well the size of their players for one, and what looked to me to be a decent Oldham keeper for another, not that we worked him very much. maybe it is the inevitable consequence of our style, or the work rate of the opposition, but we are not exactly set up to be prolific, and I wonder if there was any other way to worry opponents, like the way Oldham scared the bejaysus out of us, because all this tight rope stuff is not convincing.
Everybody put in a bit of a shift today, but few stood out. However a win is a win so I'm not knocking it.6 -
That was total garbage. I cant believe all this " a win's a win " nonsense and reference to the playoffs. Oldham were a really poor side who dominated us 2nd half and didn't deserve to leave empty-handed. I feel sorry for their number 10 - a shame we don't have him. There were so many woeful performances. I'm fed up of watching that week after week. Robinson will of course cite injuries and no transfer activity but face facts he's clueless as recent games prove. A new owner and manager can't come soon enough.8
