I know you clearly state it's not an exhaustive list, but when the lists are finally compiled, please don't forget the group off here who worked bloody hard to bring the Protest Shirt to market, going on to sell a thousand of them and raising huge profits despite the low cost.
And I've no doubt you'd also want to highlight those who made contributions (big and small, one off or monthly) to the Protest Fund which allowed the protests to be undertaken.
As you do state, it runs into the thousands who have played a part.
I know you clearly state it's not an exhaustive list, but when the lists are finally compiled, please don't forget the group off here who worked bloody hard to bring the Protest Shirt to market, going on to sell a thousand of them and raising huge profits despite the low cost.
And I've no doubt you'd also want to highlight those who made contributions (big and small, one off or monthly) to the Protest Fund which allowed the protests to be undertaken.
As you do state, it runs into the thousands who have played a part.
... and the badges
Badges? We don’t need no stinking badges!
What clique badges Bob? @Henry Irving 's got one but not all that glitters is gold because I've now got three promotes
I know you clearly state it's not an exhaustive list, but when the lists are finally compiled, please don't forget the group off here who worked bloody hard to bring the Protest Shirt to market, going on to sell a thousand of them and raising huge profits despite the low cost.
And I've no doubt you'd also want to highlight those who made contributions (big and small, one off or monthly) to the Protest Fund which allowed the protests to be undertaken.
As you do state, it runs into the thousands who have played a part.
... and the badges
Badges? We don’t need no stinking badges!
What clique badges Bob? @Henry Irving 's got one but not all that glitters is gold because I've now got three promotes
I’ve got two museum badges which I’m very proud to own. But yes, it’s all about promotes really.
and a medal for young Canters who i'm sure was singled out for some rough treatment by the regime.
Wasn't me assaulted outside the West stand at the flying pigs game if that's what you mean. I did have my Roland Out flag rather forceably removed by the illegal unmarked security though (see stigs photo above) and as a result was with them when the call came over their radio and saw the entire incident from start to finish. Still angers me nothing happened about that.
Remember we we still have to have the debate over what happens to the £££££ left in the fund : - ) @Davo55@Curb_It
Fill the valley with red and white balloons before a game. Ceremonial popping of the massive balloon with Roland face on it in the centre circle. Have a party celebrating him leaving first game he's gone. The rest to charity.
Whilst it is difficult to quantify, I'm confident that had the fans just rolled over and took everything that RD and KM could throw at us, things would have become even worse than they are.
It’s hard to quantify. The big losses and boredom with football would have pushed him towards selling eventually.
I suspect that the intrusions into his private life in Belgium were probably the most effective forms of protest, as anything around The Valley didn’t affect him personally, even if they generated massive publicity against his ownership
But the protests in Belgium were born out of the earlier protests at the Valley. Most, if not all, of the B20 were involved in the Spell It Out/CARD protests, which have also spawned WAR and ROT. The perceived success of the protest campaign is due to the fact it has evolved to challenge Duchatelet and Meire at every turn. Doesn't matter if it was a well oiled and highly publicised machine, a ramshackle bunch of ne'er do wells, or an individual acting alone, be it by boycotting, contributing to the fund, or (my favourites) coming up with something like the LIAR banner or the Companies House resignation stunt. It has just been thousands of Charlton fans trying to do something to help the club.
Anyhow, he hasn't gone yet, so it is reassuring to know there are still several people beavering away with protest activities.......................just in case!!
From where we are over here, there is NO doubt the pressure you all put on him and KM are substantially responsible for this (hopeful) sale. I remember seeing video of the protests after the (Blackburn?) match about 2 years ago. I was like "Damn, that never happens in US sports."
I also think when some of you actually went to Belgium is when he started seeing that it was just a matter of time before he was going to have to get out.
Lots of good things on this thread which might bring a feelgood moment but let’s put celebrations on hold until this lot are well and truly out of the door.
There's a bloke on another Charlton forum that reckons it's absolutely nothing to do with all the groups you list! Nor all the hard work and protests. He claims to have the ear of the club. Though that could change now the ear in question has quit. Mind you, he does constantly change his mind on anything and everything Charlton.
There's a bloke on another Charlton forum that reckons it's absolutely nothing to do with all the groups you list! Nor all the hard work and protests. He claims to have the ear of the club. Though that could change now the ear in question has quit. Mind you, he does constantly change his mind on anything and everything Charlton.
Careful now he may well offer you out with a post like that or call you gay or tell you to eat shit and die. If it it is the person I am thinking of he loves labelling people racist for inserting the word Belgium refore KM name but once labelled Tony jimmenz a halfbreed Spanish mongrel. Memory problem as well as being quite inconsistent with his opinion that gentleman.
Remember we we still have to have the debate over what happens to the £££££ left in the fund : - ) @Davo55@Curb_It
You do realise that @Davo55’s OP was typed as he relaxes on a sun longer outside his seven star suite whilst sipping 200 year old whiskey on Richard Branson’s Necker Island.
Whilst it is difficult to quantify, I'm confident that had the fans just rolled over and took everything that RD and KM could throw at us, things would have become even worse than they are.
It’s hard to quantify. The big losses and boredom with football would have pushed him towards selling eventually.
I suspect that the intrusions into his private life in Belgium were probably the most effective forms of protest, as anything around The Valley didn’t affect him personally, even if they generated massive publicity against his ownership
But the protests in Belgium were born out of the earlier protests at the Valley. Most, if not all, of the B20 were involved in the Spell It Out/CARD protests, which have also spawned WAR and ROT. The perceived success of the protest campaign is due to the fact it has evolved to challenge Duchatelet and Meire at every turn. Doesn't matter if it was a well oiled and highly publicised machine, a ramshackle bunch of ne'er do wells, or an individual acting alone, be it by boycotting, contributing to the fund, or (my favourites) coming up with something like the LIAR banner or the Companies House resignation stunt. It has just been thousands of Charlton fans trying to do something to help the club.
Anyhow, he hasn't gone yet, so it is reassuring to know there are still several people beavering away with protest activities.......................just in case!!
Whilst they haven't gone yet, I just wanted to add my personal admiration and awe at the depth of creativity, ingenuity and commitment of all the protest groups involved in the fight. Charlton's fanbase never ceases to amaze me.
There's a bloke on another Charlton forum that reckons it's absolutely nothing to do with all the groups you list! Nor all the hard work and protests. He claims to have the ear of the club. Though that could change now the ear in question has quit. Mind you, he does constantly change his mind on anything and everything Charlton.
There's a bloke on another Charlton forum that reckons it's absolutely nothing to do with all the groups you list! Nor all the hard work and protests. He claims to have the ear of the club. Though that could change now the ear in question has quit. Mind you, he does constantly change his mind on anything and everything Charlton.
Careful now he may well offer you out with a post like that or call you gay or tell you to eat shit and die. If it it is the person I am thinking of he loves labelling people racist for inserting the word Belgium refore KM name but once labelled Tony jimmenz a halfbreed Spanish mongrel. Memory problem as well as being quite inconsistent with his opinion that gentleman.
Never under-estimate the effect of the protests which exposed Meire's 'war' with the supporters and eventually cooked her goose. Duchatelet so wanted her to be a big hit, because for him, it was more about her than about Charlton Athletic in the end. They took an absolute pasting from CARD in the media war until Meire was forced to go into hiding and the B20-inpired Belgium visits clearly embarrassed him at home. All-in-all, a thorough beating which has finally seen them off.
Never under-estimate the effect of the protests which exposed Meire's 'war' with the supporters and eventually cooked her goose. Duchatelet so wanted her to be a big hit, because for him, it was more about her than about Charlton Athletic in the end. They took an absolute pasting from CARD in the media war until Meire was forced to go into hiding and the B20-inpired Belgium visits clearly embarrassed him at home. All-in-all, a thorough beating which has finally seen them off.
Absolutely agree with all of this except we haven't yet quite seen them off. Duchâtelet, as others have suggested, may well be trying to strike a deal where he can recoup his losses over time, if unable to find a buyer willing to meet his unrealistic price tag.
Could the title of this thread be used by @Airman Brown instead of The Battle for Charlton'? I have no doubt that several chapters have been drafted already. Put me down for one of the first copies please.
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Happy just to have played a part in the protests.
Not over yet of course and who knows what new owners will be like, but still akin to beating Millwall home and away perhaps?
Anyhow, he hasn't gone yet, so it is reassuring to know there are still several people beavering away with protest activities.......................just in case!!
I also think when some of you actually went to Belgium is when he started seeing that it was just a matter of time before he was going to have to get out.
I have no doubt that several chapters have been drafted already.
Put me down for one of the first copies please.