The young lady who looked into my bag looked like Hooks from Polce Academy. I just laughed with thoughts from that flim, whilst she looked into my old sweaty belongings,
After what has happened in the world can't believe people are moaning about having their bags searched. Makes me feel at ease, imagine if a lunatic brought something and bags weren't searched, unbelievable
Weren't some of us complaining about idiots smuggling in flares a while back (both the trousers and fireworks).
I don't see a problem with it to be honest. I would also be able to accept it if they took drinks (cans etc.) away or made you open or drink them then and there. They are, probably, within their rights to refuse bringing food and snacks in too. They do sell them in the ground, after all - and they are outrageously expensive. Pubs don't let you come in with a packet of crisps and four cans of larger, after all.
This is another one of those subjects where the club can't win - checking kids bags is a little bit questionable but then so is having an adult take a flare out of it that ends up hitting another fan.
Isn't the issue of the original poster that the bag had already been checked and had been tagged.
Not that bags are getting checked.
Voila...not only that, but the fella who checked it a second time was less than 10 yards away from the first check
You said he saw you leave, how long after the first check was that? Did he witness the first check?
From the sounds of it the green tag is for crossbar only (probably so people that leave their bag unattended at there table whilst getting a drink don't cause a security scare), the guy on the gate is to search all bags and did his job.
Wasn't there today but have had vigorous checks on my rucksack each time I've gone to The Valley this season , going in to the family stand . They have been more than fair with drinks etc going in to the ground , I'm not buying no shit from you Roly .
I love it when every stupid, invasive and pointless action can be justified by the fear of terrorism.
Not sure what is more ridiculous, the idea that a fanatical Islamic terror cell would opt to target Charlton v Southend to inflict maximum chaos and gain international publicity or the idea that the nice 15 year old lad who peered into my brother's rucksack for about 3 seconds, might have spotted a micro IED concealed in the lining.
I arrived late, yesterday, just after half time. A mission to get to The Valley. The Head Steward wouldn't let us in. I appreciate there are rules but come on.... Totally unnecessary behaviour. We had tickets.
I arrived late, yesterday, just after half time. A mission to get to The Valley. The Head Steward wouldn't let us in. I appreciate there are rules but come on.... Totally unnecessary behaviour. We had tickets.
What an arsehole, what reason did he give ? Other than wanting to be a big boy.
I arrived late, yesterday, just after half time. A mission to get to The Valley. The Head Steward wouldn't let us in. I appreciate there are rules but come on.... Totally unnecessary behaviour. We had tickets.
Maybe all law abiding citizens should be given a badge they can pin to their lapel that will allow them to passed through all security unchecked. That would speed up airport passenger traffic leaving security to focus their attention on "non badge wearers". I think this is a great suggestion and will reduce the the cost of security too. And whilst we are at it, give a "dodgy person person on board" badge to those passengers using public transport or go further still with signs saying "No terrorism - £500 fine". I think I'm on to something here...or on something ;o)
I've never been in crossbars on a match day but assume that the drinks are served in glasses and bottles, just the thing that they don't want people taking into the stands. checking bags again as you leave doesn't seem too unreasonable
Isn't the issue of the original poster that the bag had already been checked and had been tagged.
Not that bags are getting checked.
Voila...not only that, but the fella who checked it a second time was less than 10 yards away from the first check
You said he saw you leave, how long after the first check was that? Did he witness the first check?
From the sounds of it the green tag is for crossbar only (probably so people that leave their bag unattended at there table whilst getting a drink don't cause a security scare), the guy on the gate is to search all bags and did his job.
Dave, some just use it as an opportunity to have a dig without taking into account the bigger picture mate. The very same would be moaning if there were no checks whatsoever in days when the threat level sits at Severe (an attack is 'highly likely') and crowded places (ok, the valley, poetic licence) are an obvious and known target.
The checks are pretty cursory of course but are a half decent deterrent in helping to mitigate against the 'lone opportunist' carrying out an attack. November 2015, Paris. Device was detonated outside the Stade de France with minimal impact because bag checks and pat down body searches were being carried out outside the ground and prior to having the opportunity to 'mingle' with a larger crowd inside the ground.
I arrived late, yesterday, just after half time. A mission to get to The Valley. The Head Steward wouldn't let us in. I appreciate there are rules but come on.... Totally unnecessary behaviour. We had tickets.
What an arsehole, what reason did he give ? Other than wanting to be a big boy.
I'm incredulous! On what grounds were you refused entry.......I can't for the life of me understand this? There are a number of guys you may consider to be 'The Head Steward.' I wonder if the guy who ultimately spoke to you was who you think he was? This is a really serious matter and for everyone's sake we need to know the answer.......at what time are you going to be denied entry and on what grounds if you miss kick off? You could be held up on your journey for a host of reasons and for varying lengths of time. Henry or Airman......this ones for you guys maybe? What would they do if a couple of trains were delayed or away supporters coaches got stuck in a traffic jam and hundreds turn up after kick off? Charlton owe you a huge apology BartleyPark and some form of compensation IMHO!
I don't think any club has to allow entry after half time I may be wrong but I am sure that once half time is reached there is no obligation for the club to Honour access
Not that I agree with it but I am sure it's something I have heard
I don't think any club has to allow entry after half time I may be wrong but I am sure that once half time is reached there is no obligation for the club to Honour access
Not that I agree with it but I am sure it's something I have heard
I have not heard of that.....I just Googled the question and it's not referred to in any ground regulations of any club that I could see after 15 minutes or so of searching.
Like i said mate it was something I recall being said to me now that may have been when I was trying to get in late to a game and they just didn't fancy letting me in
I don't think any club has to allow entry after half time I may be wrong but I am sure that once half time is reached there is no obligation for the club to Honour access
Not that I agree with it but I am sure it's something I have heard
Can well believe that they're not obliged to let latecomers in, but why would they not?
Turn him away and you piss off one of your customers, nobody gains.
I expect it's a money saving thing. Letting people in means they'd have to employ turnstile operator. In fact, at least one for each stand, maybe one for each block. That could cost as much as £60 per game. It makes far more economic sense to save on their wages and risk upsetting a couple of 'Customers'. After all, this is football, good will is free and unequivocal.
I don't think any club has to allow entry after half time I may be wrong but I am sure that once half time is reached there is no obligation for the club to Honour access
Not that I agree with it but I am sure it's something I have heard
Can well believe that they're not obliged to let latecomers in, but why would they not?
Turn him away and you piss off one of your customers, nobody gains.
Let him in and nobody loses.
Weird.
Wouldn't you agree we all need to know the answer to this Largo.....after all, it could happen to any one of us. What is the cut off time for starters......and then the reason/reasons why?
I don't think any club has to allow entry after half time I may be wrong but I am sure that once half time is reached there is no obligation for the club to Honour access
Not that I agree with it but I am sure it's something I have heard
Can well believe that they're not obliged to let latecomers in, but why would they not?
Turn him away and you piss off one of your customers, nobody gains.
Let him in and nobody loses.
Weird.
Wouldn't you agree we all need to know the answer to this Largo.....after all, it could happen to any one of us. What is the cut off time for starters......and then the reason/reasons why?
Yeah I'd definitely be interested to know, although I'm fairly certain that in this case it's one jobsworth being unhelpful for the sake of it.
I've known people to be let in at half time in the last few years. You don't need a turnstile operator, they can just open the gate. Unfortunately, these days the club seems to like employing people who view supporters as the enemy.
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This is another one of those subjects where the club can't win - checking kids bags is a little bit questionable but then so is having an adult take a flare out of it that ends up hitting another fan.
I blame Rees Mogg
Not that bags are getting checked.
From the sounds of it the green tag is for crossbar only (probably so people that leave their bag unattended at there table whilst getting a drink don't cause a security scare), the guy on the gate is to search all bags and did his job.
Not sure what is more ridiculous, the idea that a fanatical Islamic terror cell would opt to target Charlton v Southend to inflict maximum chaos and gain international publicity or the idea that the nice 15 year old lad who peered into my brother's rucksack for about 3 seconds, might have spotted a micro IED concealed in the lining.
The checks are pretty cursory of course but are a half decent deterrent in helping to mitigate against the 'lone opportunist' carrying out an attack. November 2015, Paris. Device was detonated outside the Stade de France with minimal impact because bag checks and pat down body searches were being carried out outside the ground and prior to having the opportunity to 'mingle' with a larger crowd inside the ground.
On what grounds were you refused entry.......I can't for the life of me understand this?
There are a number of guys you may consider to be 'The Head Steward.' I wonder if the guy who ultimately spoke to you was who you think he was?
This is a really serious matter and for everyone's sake we need to know the answer.......at what time are you going to be denied entry and on what grounds if you miss kick off?
You could be held up on your journey for a host of reasons and for varying lengths of time. Henry or Airman......this ones for you guys maybe?
What would they do if a couple of trains were delayed or away supporters coaches got stuck in a traffic jam and hundreds turn up after kick off?
Charlton owe you a huge apology BartleyPark and some form of compensation IMHO!
Not that I agree with it but I am sure it's something I have heard
Turn him away and you piss off one of your customers, nobody gains.
Let him in and nobody loses.
Weird.
Oh no, that's the security staff who are turning people away. Beats me then.
What is the cut off time for starters......and then the reason/reasons why?
I've known people to be let in at half time in the last few years. You don't need a turnstile operator, they can just open the gate. Unfortunately, these days the club seems to like employing people who view supporters as the enemy.