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Charlton v Southend | Sat 09 Sept | 3pm KO | Match Preview, Predictions, News & Views
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Reeves not ready for another weekLincsaddick said:No Reeves on the bench @ForeverAddickted ?
CAFC 3 v Southend United 0
http://www.newsshopper.co.uk/sport/15521049.Charlton_injury_update__Midfielder_will_miss_Southend_and_Wigan_games/?ref=rl&lp=13 -
Southend not as good as some are making out. A hard fought 3.1 win to keep everyone happy.
Our March on to promotion continues
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A festival of violence with red and yellow cards galore.
Brown will dispute our penalty but be happy with the draw.0 -
http://www.basildon-today.co.uk/article.cfm?id=127494
Brown says we play "pure football" and talking about pressing us high up the pitch.
Will be interesting to see if that's actually how they play and how we deal with it.2 -
Lincsaddick said:
No Reeves on the bench @ForeverAddickted ?
CAFC 3 v Southend United 0
I left him out of the Squad for this reason... Of course I posted the preview before this was released but the comment that Robinson was making after the Oldham game to me sounded as though Reeves wasnt going to be ready for a while.killerandflash said:
Reeves not ready for another weekLincsaddick said:No Reeves on the bench @ForeverAddickted ?
CAFC 3 v Southend United 0
http://www.newsshopper.co.uk/sport/15521049.Charlton_injury_update__Midfielder_will_miss_Southend_and_Wigan_games/?ref=rl&lp=12 -
Pressing us high may work in our favour as it will leave gaps for our attacking four to exploit. Alternatively our defenders will get caught on the ball and we will be punished.Scoham said:http://www.basildon-today.co.uk/article.cfm?id=127494
Brown says we play "pure football" and talking about pressing us high up the pitch.
Will be interesting to see if that's actually how they play and how we deal with it.3 -
They are a good side, it'll be a tough one, as others indicated I think Solly might be rested for Tuesday, this has banana skin written all over it. I'll go with my heart and a 2-1 win but my head says we'll lose by a single goal, maybe 2-3.1
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"They are playing a similar kind of way to what he was trying to achieve at MK Dons, Brown explained."Scoham said:http://www.basildon-today.co.uk/article.cfm?id=127494
Brown says we play "pure football" and talking about pressing us high up the pitch.
Will be interesting to see if that's actually how they play and how we deal with it.
Strangest comment I've ever read... Surely he's going to play the same way from when he was MK Dons because its the same Manager and its his style - Same I guess with Phil Brown trying to get Southend to play the same way as his other manager jobs0 -
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I think he is suggesting that he is now playing the style he was attempting at MK and being able to get closer to the exact style he wants because he now has players more suited to it?ForeverAddickted said:
"They are playing a similar kind of way to what he was trying to achieve at MK Dons, Brown explained."Scoham said:http://www.basildon-today.co.uk/article.cfm?id=127494
Brown says we play "pure football" and talking about pressing us high up the pitch.
Will be interesting to see if that's actually how they play and how we deal with it.
Strangest comment I've ever read... Surely he's going to play the same way from when he was MK Dons because its the same Manager and its his style - Same I guess with Phil Brown trying to get Southend to play the same way as his other manager jobs3 - Sponsored links:
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i'm quite confident of this one. Got a feeling the squad are buzzing at the moment, 2-0 to us1
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I have tailored my brief UK return to catch the Southend and Wigan games so it had better be worth it.
My last miserable experience of the disastrous Belgian social experiment was the limp wristed surrender to MK Dons last season. I only remember the sight of an orphan in an Arsenal shirt waving a flag at our illustrious leader.
She has since been gagged and the loquacious Scouser allowed to pick his own team in return for being the PR poodle for the Belgian branch of the North Korea appreciation society. If we win, who cares ?
I will be attending with brother of Grumpy and nephew of grumpy and we have invested a princely sum for lavish VIP seats in the east stand. Still had to print my own bloody tickets though which no doubt won't work on the high tech turnstile system once they have been scrunched in my pocket and drenched in burger grease.
Assuming we get in, we are expecting fast paced free flowing attacking football and a feast of top class goals and action.
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Will be great if DaSilva can score, and I have a feeling he will. 2:0 reds0
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I like that side.SDAddick said:Think the interesting question here will be around how Robinson handles Kashi and Solly, neither of whom have played Saturday-Tuesday this year.
I think both should be expected to play two of our next three (the last being a week Saturday at Gillingham). I could see him resting at least Solly on Saturday, and bringing Dijksteel into the team. How Dijksteel would handle Kightly I don't know, but that would hopefully mean Solly could play Tuesday-Saturday.
What happens with Kashi is another story. He's looked very fit to this point (I've just knocked on every piece of wood in my house), but is he three games in a week fit? With him, I think I'd rather we try and play him Saturday-Tuesday, then rest him for Gillingham if need be. Not sure if that's possible, but I think his ability to break up play and pressure the ball in the defensive third plus his excellent composure on the ball will be most needed against Southend and Wigan. Gillingham haven't scored many but they've only conceded 7, so I suspect they'll sit deep and try to frustrated us, and that's a game where a midfield of JFC and Aribo might be adequate.
My thoughts, for what they're worth:Amos
Dijksteel--Bauer--Pearce--Da Silva
F-Caskey--Kashi
Fosu----Clarke----Holmes
Magennis
Bench: Phillips, Konsa, Solly, Jackson, Aribo, Reeves, Dodoo
Mag & Clarke making way for Dodoo and Reeves as the oppo tire.
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cheers .. I just MUST keep upForeverAddickted said:Lincsaddick said:No Reeves on the bench @ForeverAddickted ?
CAFC 3 v Southend United 0
I left him out of the Squad for this reason... Of course I posted the preview before this was released but the comment that Robinson was making after the Oldham game to me sounded as though Reeves wasnt going to be ready for a while.killerandflash said:
Reeves not ready for another weekLincsaddick said:No Reeves on the bench @ForeverAddickted ?
CAFC 3 v Southend United 0
http://www.newsshopper.co.uk/sport/15521049.Charlton_injury_update__Midfielder_will_miss_Southend_and_Wigan_games/?ref=rl&lp=1
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No Reeves for Southend or Wigan gamesDazzler21 said:
I like that side.SDAddick said:Think the interesting question here will be around how Robinson handles Kashi and Solly, neither of whom have played Saturday-Tuesday this year.
I think both should be expected to play two of our next three (the last being a week Saturday at Gillingham). I could see him resting at least Solly on Saturday, and bringing Dijksteel into the team. How Dijksteel would handle Kightly I don't know, but that would hopefully mean Solly could play Tuesday-Saturday.
What happens with Kashi is another story. He's looked very fit to this point (I've just knocked on every piece of wood in my house), but is he three games in a week fit? With him, I think I'd rather we try and play him Saturday-Tuesday, then rest him for Gillingham if need be. Not sure if that's possible, but I think his ability to break up play and pressure the ball in the defensive third plus his excellent composure on the ball will be most needed against Southend and Wigan. Gillingham haven't scored many but they've only conceded 7, so I suspect they'll sit deep and try to frustrated us, and that's a game where a midfield of JFC and Aribo might be adequate.
My thoughts, for what they're worth:Amos
Dijksteel--Bauer--Pearce--Da Silva
F-Caskey--Kashi
Fosu----Clarke----Holmes
Magennis
Bench: Phillips, Konsa, Solly, Jackson, Aribo, Reeves, Dodoo
Mag & Clarke making way for Dodoo and Reeves as the oppo tire.1 -
If we score first we will win comfortably.1
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Robinson, who worked with Reeves at MK Dons, added: “He trained yesterday, but he’s not fully fit. He’s back outside and running today, running tomorrow and hopefully on Saturday.killerandflash said:
Reeves not ready for another weekLincsaddick said:No Reeves on the bench @ForeverAddickted ?
CAFC 3 v Southend United 0
http://www.newsshopper.co.uk/sport/15521049.Charlton_injury_update__Midfielder_will_miss_Southend_and_Wigan_games/?ref=rl&lp=1
“We’ve just got to get him up to that speed - there’s no muscular endurance in him yet.
“The tight calf that he had was through fatigue. He’s passed the running tests with flying colours but the longevity of the game sometimes puts you close to muscle fatigue.
“It was only a grade one that he had but it’s because he wasn't at a level that the rest of the players were that we demand. We’ve got to make sure we’re patient with him.
I like the way Robinson talks about fitness and injury. There is a real deliberation and thoughtfulness in it. It's certainly frustrating not having Reeves (I imagine the player himself is frustrated as well), but I'd rather we're careful with him now and get him fully fit now, while we have a *relatively* healthy and firing squad so that when the Christmas season rolls around and we're bombarded with fixtures we know we can rely on him for 90 minutes.10 -
Agree but I'm a little pissed that the reason Reeves is still unfit six weeks into our season is because he decided to mess about during the close season. It's 100% his fault.SDAddick said:
Robinson, who worked with Reeves at MK Dons, added: “He trained yesterday, but he’s not fully fit. He’s back outside and running today, running tomorrow and hopefully on Saturday.killerandflash said:
Reeves not ready for another weekLincsaddick said:No Reeves on the bench @ForeverAddickted ?
CAFC 3 v Southend United 0
http://www.newsshopper.co.uk/sport/15521049.Charlton_injury_update__Midfielder_will_miss_Southend_and_Wigan_games/?ref=rl&lp=1
“We’ve just got to get him up to that speed - there’s no muscular endurance in him yet.
“The tight calf that he had was through fatigue. He’s passed the running tests with flying colours but the longevity of the game sometimes puts you close to muscle fatigue.
“It was only a grade one that he had but it’s because he wasn't at a level that the rest of the players were that we demand. We’ve got to make sure we’re patient with him.
I like the way Robinson talks about fitness and injury. There is a real deliberation and thoughtfulness in it. It's certainly frustrating not having Reeves (I imagine the player himself is frustrated as well), but I'd rather we're careful with him now and get him fully fit now, while we have a *relatively* healthy and firing squad so that when the Christmas season rolls around and we're bombarded with fixtures we know we can rely on him for 90 minutes.
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Should he be on full money, being as when he signed for us he knew it would be weeks before he could play League football, because he took so long to make his mind up?ShootersHillGuru said:
Agree but I'm a little pissed that the reason Reeves is still unfit six weeks into our season is because he decided to mess about during the close season. It's 100% his fault.SDAddick said:
Robinson, who worked with Reeves at MK Dons, added: “He trained yesterday, but he’s not fully fit. He’s back outside and running today, running tomorrow and hopefully on Saturday.killerandflash said:
Reeves not ready for another weekLincsaddick said:No Reeves on the bench @ForeverAddickted ?
CAFC 3 v Southend United 0
http://www.newsshopper.co.uk/sport/15521049.Charlton_injury_update__Midfielder_will_miss_Southend_and_Wigan_games/?ref=rl&lp=1
“We’ve just got to get him up to that speed - there’s no muscular endurance in him yet.
“The tight calf that he had was through fatigue. He’s passed the running tests with flying colours but the longevity of the game sometimes puts you close to muscle fatigue.
“It was only a grade one that he had but it’s because he wasn't at a level that the rest of the players were that we demand. We’ve got to make sure we’re patient with him.
I like the way Robinson talks about fitness and injury. There is a real deliberation and thoughtfulness in it. It's certainly frustrating not having Reeves (I imagine the player himself is frustrated as well), but I'd rather we're careful with him now and get him fully fit now, while we have a *relatively* healthy and firing squad so that when the Christmas season rolls around and we're bombarded with fixtures we know we can rely on him for 90 minutes.0 - Sponsored links:
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KR is annoyed with him as well!ShootersHillGuru said:
Agree but I'm a little pissed that the reason Reeves is still unfit six weeks into our season is because he decided to mess about during the close season. It's 100% his fault.SDAddick said:
Robinson, who worked with Reeves at MK Dons, added: “He trained yesterday, but he’s not fully fit. He’s back outside and running today, running tomorrow and hopefully on Saturday.killerandflash said:
Reeves not ready for another weekLincsaddick said:No Reeves on the bench @ForeverAddickted ?
CAFC 3 v Southend United 0
http://www.newsshopper.co.uk/sport/15521049.Charlton_injury_update__Midfielder_will_miss_Southend_and_Wigan_games/?ref=rl&lp=1
“We’ve just got to get him up to that speed - there’s no muscular endurance in him yet.
“The tight calf that he had was through fatigue. He’s passed the running tests with flying colours but the longevity of the game sometimes puts you close to muscle fatigue.
“It was only a grade one that he had but it’s because he wasn't at a level that the rest of the players were that we demand. We’ve got to make sure we’re patient with him.
I like the way Robinson talks about fitness and injury. There is a real deliberation and thoughtfulness in it. It's certainly frustrating not having Reeves (I imagine the player himself is frustrated as well), but I'd rather we're careful with him now and get him fully fit now, while we have a *relatively* healthy and firing squad so that when the Christmas season rolls around and we're bombarded with fixtures we know we can rely on him for 90 minutes.
“I don't make any apologies for putting him through the mire, he should've been here six weeks earlier and he would've been fine.”
Charlton offered Reeves a deal in May, but the playmaker wanted to review his options.
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I don't want to get in to the situation where we start docking the pay of injured players (though it's almost certainly illegal anyway).ross1 said:
Should he be on full money, being as when he signed for us he knew it would be weeks before he could play League football, because he took so long to make his mind up?ShootersHillGuru said:
Agree but I'm a little pissed that the reason Reeves is still unfit six weeks into our season is because he decided to mess about during the close season. It's 100% his fault.SDAddick said:
Robinson, who worked with Reeves at MK Dons, added: “He trained yesterday, but he’s not fully fit. He’s back outside and running today, running tomorrow and hopefully on Saturday.killerandflash said:
Reeves not ready for another weekLincsaddick said:No Reeves on the bench @ForeverAddickted ?
CAFC 3 v Southend United 0
http://www.newsshopper.co.uk/sport/15521049.Charlton_injury_update__Midfielder_will_miss_Southend_and_Wigan_games/?ref=rl&lp=1
“We’ve just got to get him up to that speed - there’s no muscular endurance in him yet.
“The tight calf that he had was through fatigue. He’s passed the running tests with flying colours but the longevity of the game sometimes puts you close to muscle fatigue.
“It was only a grade one that he had but it’s because he wasn't at a level that the rest of the players were that we demand. We’ve got to make sure we’re patient with him.
I like the way Robinson talks about fitness and injury. There is a real deliberation and thoughtfulness in it. It's certainly frustrating not having Reeves (I imagine the player himself is frustrated as well), but I'd rather we're careful with him now and get him fully fit now, while we have a *relatively* healthy and firing squad so that when the Christmas season rolls around and we're bombarded with fixtures we know we can rely on him for 90 minutes.
I'm certainly frustrated too, although I don't know that it's exactly a 1:1 correlation between him not having a summer and him being injured. I think there is definitely overlap in cause and effect, but I think that sometimes we get too caught up in equations like "Being Unfit=Injured." I certainly think there is overlap here, but I think it's probably at least somewhat the case that he is unfit AND injured, if that makes sense.0 -
The way we've started I wouldnt be surprised if Amos and Phillips also get on the score sheet for Charlton by the end of the season. How many of charlton's players have scored so far ? 9? 10? anybody still keeping track ?LennyLowrent said:Will be great if DaSilva can score, and I have a feeling he will. 2:0 reds
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Eleven players so far if you include the Football League Trophyletthegoodtimesroll said:
The way we've started I wouldnt be surprised if Amos and Phillips also get on the score sheet for Charlton by the end of the season. How many of charlton's players have scored so far ? 9? 10? anybody still keeping track ?LennyLowrent said:Will be great if DaSilva can score, and I have a feeling he will. 2:0 reds
http://forum.charltonlife.com/discussion/79036/statbank-oldham-3-4-charlton
From the starting eleven its just: Solly | Dasilva | Pearce | Kashi that havent scored.2 -
I could tell you a story about how doing that went horribly wrong once back in the day!SDAddick said:
I don't want to get in to the situation where we start docking the pay of injured players (though it's almost certainly illegal anyway).ross1 said:
Should he be on full money, being as when he signed for us he knew it would be weeks before he could play League football, because he took so long to make his mind up?ShootersHillGuru said:
Agree but I'm a little pissed that the reason Reeves is still unfit six weeks into our season is because he decided to mess about during the close season. It's 100% his fault.SDAddick said:
Robinson, who worked with Reeves at MK Dons, added: “He trained yesterday, but he’s not fully fit. He’s back outside and running today, running tomorrow and hopefully on Saturday.killerandflash said:
Reeves not ready for another weekLincsaddick said:No Reeves on the bench @ForeverAddickted ?
CAFC 3 v Southend United 0
http://www.newsshopper.co.uk/sport/15521049.Charlton_injury_update__Midfielder_will_miss_Southend_and_Wigan_games/?ref=rl&lp=1
“We’ve just got to get him up to that speed - there’s no muscular endurance in him yet.
“The tight calf that he had was through fatigue. He’s passed the running tests with flying colours but the longevity of the game sometimes puts you close to muscle fatigue.
“It was only a grade one that he had but it’s because he wasn't at a level that the rest of the players were that we demand. We’ve got to make sure we’re patient with him.
I like the way Robinson talks about fitness and injury. There is a real deliberation and thoughtfulness in it. It's certainly frustrating not having Reeves (I imagine the player himself is frustrated as well), but I'd rather we're careful with him now and get him fully fit now, while we have a *relatively* healthy and firing squad so that when the Christmas season rolls around and we're bombarded with fixtures we know we can rely on him for 90 minutes.
I'm certainly frustrated too, although I don't know that it's exactly a 1:1 correlation between him not having a summer and him being injured. I think there is definitely overlap in cause and effect, but I think that sometimes we get too caught up in equations like "Being Unfit=Injured." I certainly think there is overlap here, but I think it's probably at least somewhat the case that he is unfit AND injured, if that makes sense.0 -
I agree about when a player is injured, but he is not, he chose to leave coming here until the last moment, knowing he would not be fit to play for many weeks into the season. I only hope that when he finally plays, he is worth all the hypeSDAddick said:
I don't want to get in to the situation where we start docking the pay of injured players (though it's almost certainly illegal anyway).ross1 said:
Should he be on full money, being as when he signed for us he knew it would be weeks before he could play League football, because he took so long to make his mind up?ShootersHillGuru said:
Agree but I'm a little pissed that the reason Reeves is still unfit six weeks into our season is because he decided to mess about during the close season. It's 100% his fault.SDAddick said:
Robinson, who worked with Reeves at MK Dons, added: “He trained yesterday, but he’s not fully fit. He’s back outside and running today, running tomorrow and hopefully on Saturday.killerandflash said:
Reeves not ready for another weekLincsaddick said:No Reeves on the bench @ForeverAddickted ?
CAFC 3 v Southend United 0
http://www.newsshopper.co.uk/sport/15521049.Charlton_injury_update__Midfielder_will_miss_Southend_and_Wigan_games/?ref=rl&lp=1
“We’ve just got to get him up to that speed - there’s no muscular endurance in him yet.
“The tight calf that he had was through fatigue. He’s passed the running tests with flying colours but the longevity of the game sometimes puts you close to muscle fatigue.
“It was only a grade one that he had but it’s because he wasn't at a level that the rest of the players were that we demand. We’ve got to make sure we’re patient with him.
I like the way Robinson talks about fitness and injury. There is a real deliberation and thoughtfulness in it. It's certainly frustrating not having Reeves (I imagine the player himself is frustrated as well), but I'd rather we're careful with him now and get him fully fit now, while we have a *relatively* healthy and firing squad so that when the Christmas season rolls around and we're bombarded with fixtures we know we can rely on him for 90 minutes.
I'm certainly frustrated too, although I don't know that it's exactly a 1:1 correlation between him not having a summer and him being injured. I think there is definitely overlap in cause and effect, but I think that sometimes we get too caught up in equations like "Being Unfit=Injured." I certainly think there is overlap here, but I think it's probably at least somewhat the case that he is unfit AND injured, if that makes sense.1 -
KR seems to be quite good at keeping players back until they're fit. And he held his hand up over Mavididi saying he overplayed him.ross1 said:
I agree about when a player is injured, but he is not, he chose to leave coming here until the last moment, knowing he would not be fit to play for many weeks into the season. I only hope that when he finally plays, he is worth all the hypeSDAddick said:
I don't want to get in to the situation where we start docking the pay of injured players (though it's almost certainly illegal anyway).ross1 said:
Should he be on full money, being as when he signed for us he knew it would be weeks before he could play League football, because he took so long to make his mind up?ShootersHillGuru said:
Agree but I'm a little pissed that the reason Reeves is still unfit six weeks into our season is because he decided to mess about during the close season. It's 100% his fault.SDAddick said:
Robinson, who worked with Reeves at MK Dons, added: “He trained yesterday, but he’s not fully fit. He’s back outside and running today, running tomorrow and hopefully on Saturday.killerandflash said:
Reeves not ready for another weekLincsaddick said:No Reeves on the bench @ForeverAddickted ?
CAFC 3 v Southend United 0
http://www.newsshopper.co.uk/sport/15521049.Charlton_injury_update__Midfielder_will_miss_Southend_and_Wigan_games/?ref=rl&lp=1
“We’ve just got to get him up to that speed - there’s no muscular endurance in him yet.
“The tight calf that he had was through fatigue. He’s passed the running tests with flying colours but the longevity of the game sometimes puts you close to muscle fatigue.
“It was only a grade one that he had but it’s because he wasn't at a level that the rest of the players were that we demand. We’ve got to make sure we’re patient with him.
I like the way Robinson talks about fitness and injury. There is a real deliberation and thoughtfulness in it. It's certainly frustrating not having Reeves (I imagine the player himself is frustrated as well), but I'd rather we're careful with him now and get him fully fit now, while we have a *relatively* healthy and firing squad so that when the Christmas season rolls around and we're bombarded with fixtures we know we can rely on him for 90 minutes.
I'm certainly frustrated too, although I don't know that it's exactly a 1:1 correlation between him not having a summer and him being injured. I think there is definitely overlap in cause and effect, but I think that sometimes we get too caught up in equations like "Being Unfit=Injured." I certainly think there is overlap here, but I think it's probably at least somewhat the case that he is unfit AND injured, if that makes sense.1 -
Yeah I agree, and I think some of it with Reeves is not wanting to risk him right now when we don't necessarily need to. Hearing Karl talk about the fitness program Reeves is on its clear they're taking a long term approach with him. It's not about just getting him fit for Saturday, it's about getting him fit for a season and keeping him fit, which is absolutely the right approach in what is otherwise a very short termist sport.JamesSeed said:
KR seems to be quite good at keeping players back until they're fit. And he held his hand up over Mavididi saying he overplayed him.ross1 said:
I agree about when a player is injured, but he is not, he chose to leave coming here until the last moment, knowing he would not be fit to play for many weeks into the season. I only hope that when he finally plays, he is worth all the hypeSDAddick said:
I don't want to get in to the situation where we start docking the pay of injured players (though it's almost certainly illegal anyway).ross1 said:
Should he be on full money, being as when he signed for us he knew it would be weeks before he could play League football, because he took so long to make his mind up?ShootersHillGuru said:
Agree but I'm a little pissed that the reason Reeves is still unfit six weeks into our season is because he decided to mess about during the close season. It's 100% his fault.SDAddick said:
Robinson, who worked with Reeves at MK Dons, added: “He trained yesterday, but he’s not fully fit. He’s back outside and running today, running tomorrow and hopefully on Saturday.killerandflash said:
Reeves not ready for another weekLincsaddick said:No Reeves on the bench @ForeverAddickted ?
CAFC 3 v Southend United 0
http://www.newsshopper.co.uk/sport/15521049.Charlton_injury_update__Midfielder_will_miss_Southend_and_Wigan_games/?ref=rl&lp=1
“We’ve just got to get him up to that speed - there’s no muscular endurance in him yet.
“The tight calf that he had was through fatigue. He’s passed the running tests with flying colours but the longevity of the game sometimes puts you close to muscle fatigue.
“It was only a grade one that he had but it’s because he wasn't at a level that the rest of the players were that we demand. We’ve got to make sure we’re patient with him.
I like the way Robinson talks about fitness and injury. There is a real deliberation and thoughtfulness in it. It's certainly frustrating not having Reeves (I imagine the player himself is frustrated as well), but I'd rather we're careful with him now and get him fully fit now, while we have a *relatively* healthy and firing squad so that when the Christmas season rolls around and we're bombarded with fixtures we know we can rely on him for 90 minutes.
I'm certainly frustrated too, although I don't know that it's exactly a 1:1 correlation between him not having a summer and him being injured. I think there is definitely overlap in cause and effect, but I think that sometimes we get too caught up in equations like "Being Unfit=Injured." I certainly think there is overlap here, but I think it's probably at least somewhat the case that he is unfit AND injured, if that makes sense.
I suspect that if Saturday were the Playoff final Reeves would be on the bench. But it's not, and we have 40 games to go. Yes, he's in this position because he was late in signing for us and that's his fault, but there's nothing to be done now except get him fit.3 -
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With the comments here a few days ago about signing a free agent like Lambert, you wonder how long it would be before he was suitably fitSDAddick said:
Yeah I agree, and I think some of it with Reeves is not wanting to risk him right now when we don't necessarily need to. Hearing Karl talk about the fitness program Reeves is on its clear they're taking a long term approach with him. It's not about just getting him fit for Saturday, it's about getting him fit for a season and keeping him fit, which is absolutely the right approach in what is otherwise a very short termist sport.JamesSeed said:
KR seems to be quite good at keeping players back until they're fit. And he held his hand up over Mavididi saying he overplayed him.ross1 said:
I agree about when a player is injured, but he is not, he chose to leave coming here until the last moment, knowing he would not be fit to play for many weeks into the season. I only hope that when he finally plays, he is worth all the hypeSDAddick said:
I don't want to get in to the situation where we start docking the pay of injured players (though it's almost certainly illegal anyway).ross1 said:
Should he be on full money, being as when he signed for us he knew it would be weeks before he could play League football, because he took so long to make his mind up?ShootersHillGuru said:
Agree but I'm a little pissed that the reason Reeves is still unfit six weeks into our season is because he decided to mess about during the close season. It's 100% his fault.SDAddick said:
Robinson, who worked with Reeves at MK Dons, added: “He trained yesterday, but he’s not fully fit. He’s back outside and running today, running tomorrow and hopefully on Saturday.killerandflash said:
Reeves not ready for another weekLincsaddick said:No Reeves on the bench @ForeverAddickted ?
CAFC 3 v Southend United 0
http://www.newsshopper.co.uk/sport/15521049.Charlton_injury_update__Midfielder_will_miss_Southend_and_Wigan_games/?ref=rl&lp=1
“We’ve just got to get him up to that speed - there’s no muscular endurance in him yet.
“The tight calf that he had was through fatigue. He’s passed the running tests with flying colours but the longevity of the game sometimes puts you close to muscle fatigue.
“It was only a grade one that he had but it’s because he wasn't at a level that the rest of the players were that we demand. We’ve got to make sure we’re patient with him.
I like the way Robinson talks about fitness and injury. There is a real deliberation and thoughtfulness in it. It's certainly frustrating not having Reeves (I imagine the player himself is frustrated as well), but I'd rather we're careful with him now and get him fully fit now, while we have a *relatively* healthy and firing squad so that when the Christmas season rolls around and we're bombarded with fixtures we know we can rely on him for 90 minutes.
I'm certainly frustrated too, although I don't know that it's exactly a 1:1 correlation between him not having a summer and him being injured. I think there is definitely overlap in cause and effect, but I think that sometimes we get too caught up in equations like "Being Unfit=Injured." I certainly think there is overlap here, but I think it's probably at least somewhat the case that he is unfit AND injured, if that makes sense.
I suspect that if Saturday were the Playoff final Reeves would be on the bench. But it's not, and we have 40 games to go. Yes, he's in this position because he was late in signing for us and that's his fault, but there's nothing to be done now except get him fit.3
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