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Charlie Gard

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  • Dazzler21
    Dazzler21 Posts: 51,344
    edited July 2017
    aliwibble said:

    Dazzler21 said:

    Let's not make this about Trump.

    Far more importantly is how this poor baby gets to finally rest. For me GOSH using the line ''it's impractical'' is evident that it is maybe more difficult of a thing to do than being the wrong thing.

    Before the treatment (at a much earlier stage of progression) may have been able to save the child, because of the many delays, this was not the case and the family had the option to take Charlie home to die, they have finally realised this was their best option.

    Brutally once again delays have caused another issue for the family, where before they could have taken him home to die, now they can't.

    It's not the delays that have meant they can't take him home to die, it's the fact that they can't get the ventilator through the damn door into their house! That's why GOSH are recommending hospice care, so they can get away from the hospital but still have appropriate palliative care for him.
    I am fairly sure they approved him to die at home?

    Doesn't matter now as all parties have agreed to Hospice care.

  • aliwibble
    aliwibble Posts: 26,290
    In principle yes, then they discovered that wasn't a practical option. This is why I'm rapidly losing sympathy for the parents - they seem to be clinging to this idealised idea of how this is all going to play out and so dragging the court case out even longer, rather than actually dealing with the reality of the situation.
  • Dazzler21
    Dazzler21 Posts: 51,344
    aliwibble said:

    In principle yes, then they discovered that wasn't a practical option. This is why I'm rapidly losing sympathy for the parents - they seem to be clinging to this idealised idea of how this is all going to play out and so dragging the court case out even longer, rather than actually dealing with the reality of the situation.

    not anymore.

    excuse the source...

    https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2017/jul/26/charlie-gard-can-be-cared-for-in-hospice-his-parents-tell-court
  • aliwibble
    aliwibble Posts: 26,290
    edited July 2017
    That's a couple of hours out of date :-/ The doctor mentioned turned not to have the required skills when questionned by the court. As of about an hour ago, the parents' lawyer was arguing for an extra 48 hours




    I'd literally just watched Rozenberg discuss everything that had happened up to the point the media were sent out when I made my last comment. Since then they've come back in, and it seems like the judge has decided there can be no further delays beyond tomorrow




  • clive
    clive Posts: 19,454
    Has died.RIP.
    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-london-40752120

  • SDAddick
    SDAddick Posts: 14,467
    An incredibly difficult and heart wrenching case. His passing away was, by all diagnoses, inevitable. But this whole situation has been incredibly hard. I understand his parents' desire to do anything they can for him, and there is no right way to grieve. I just hope they can find some peace now.

    I'm really impressed reading through this thread. If this had happened in America we would have people losing their minds saying doctors killed him (in fact, if you read through some of the comments on social media you can see that).

    Parents should never have to bury their children, it's one of the most fucked up things in this life.
  • North Lower Neil
    North Lower Neil Posts: 22,952
    Sad story.

    RIP little Charlie.
  • uie2
    uie2 Posts: 4,596
    Very sad news! RIP Little Angel
  • hoof_it_up_to_benty
    hoof_it_up_to_benty Posts: 22,444
    Think the media have handled this in an appalling manner - especially the Mail. Hysterical reaction from those on Social media.

    Glad that the little boy has been allowed to end his suffering.

    I hope the parents get through this.
  • stonemuse
    stonemuse Posts: 34,000
    RIP
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  • LargeAddick
    LargeAddick Posts: 32,560
    RIP Little Man, you deserved much better.
  • guinnessaddick
    guinnessaddick Posts: 28,620
    RIP
  • blackpool72
    blackpool72 Posts: 23,671
    My 1st and last post on this thread because it is too sad for me to comment on.
  • Stig
    Stig Posts: 29,022
    Indescribably painful for his parents, but certainly the best thing for him. RIP Charlie.
  • Redvalleyeast
    Redvalleyeast Posts: 4,689
    Tragic. RIP little man.
  • Brendan_O_Connell
    Brendan_O_Connell Posts: 8,938
    RIP
  • ricky_otto
    ricky_otto Posts: 22,600
    RIP.
  • i_b_b_o_r_g
    i_b_b_o_r_g Posts: 18,948
    RIP
  • Fanny Fanackapan
    Fanny Fanackapan Posts: 18,737
    Sleep tight , little fella.
  • McBobbin
    McBobbin Posts: 12,051
    RIP
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  • Athletico Charlton
    Athletico Charlton Posts: 14,273
    RIP little fella. Very sad.
  • Callumcafc
    Callumcafc Posts: 63,764
    RIP Charlie
  • MuttleyCAFC
    MuttleyCAFC Posts: 47,728
    edited July 2017
    RIP. Sadly the only thing that could be offered to this poor little soul was to be at peace. We all wish there was a magical cure and we should be sympathetic to the parents and their pain, but the past few months should not have happened and some of those involved are beneath contempt. No winners here. Very sad.
  • WSA
    WSA Posts: 1,912
    RIP Charlie
  • ken_shabby
    ken_shabby Posts: 6,255
    RIP Charlie. And some comfort for the terrible grief his parents must feel.
  • happyvalley
    happyvalley Posts: 8,996
    RIP little Charlie, it's a cruel world sometimes.
  • cafcfan1990
    cafcfan1990 Posts: 12,811
    Been following it recently and it's a horrible situation where nobody could win. Parents have had what will hopefully be the toughest part of their lives and I hope one day they can move on, even if never forget.

    There has been so many mistakes but undoubtedly any decision would have had its downsides too and it really was just one of those awful unfortunate situations, RIP.
  • up_the_valley
    up_the_valley Posts: 4,186
    My third child was born on Monday gone. I really don't know how I would feel, or what I would do in this situation. Such a horrible position for the parents to be placed in. Sometimes nature is a **** to the wrong people and I hope the parents get all the support they need.
  • Dazzler21
    Dazzler21 Posts: 51,344
    RIP little guy
  • nth_london_addick
    nth_london_addick Posts: 35,919
    Was a total no win situation from the beginning it's such a sad sad story with a tragic and heartbreaking end

    The pain I feel for the parents and their loss is huge

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