Crumlin United v Charlton - PSF - 10 July 2017
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Stevenage | Norwich | Ipswich will be the real interesting matches to judge where we are.AFKABartram said:I really wouldn't read anything into last night, we were literally playing a Sunday league side. Yassin Moutaouakil looked like Kyle Walker in a couple of his pre season friendlies
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After all the who ha with the stream i watched it up until half time, but then last minute had to pop out and pick someone up from Gatwick (bad timing). Hopefully we can see the next couple again on Youtube that would be handy.
Re: Ajose, still think we dont play the right style for him. Would be interesting if we can have at least a half of 442 as you need to play more than 1 formation if you dont want to be found out and in a 442 he would be a completely different player imo2 -
Whilst I admire your optimism, and you do provide a useful counter balance to the general feeling on here, I really do think that it'll take more than a couple of drubbings of pub sides before people will be getting their credit cards out to buy season tickets, after nearly four years of misgovernance and general dicking around of core supporters.letthegoodtimesroll said:
I qualify for the free VP but if I was the club I'd put the matches out free to access again. That was a quality product last night right down to the camera work and angle changes and the commentary - BT and SKY should get their chequebooks out for those boys, they got it just right - anyway, a couple more performances like that and season ticket sales will start to take offForeverAddickted said:
Will the next two games be on YouTube as well or will that only happen if the issues surrounding ValleyPass dont get resolved?sadamson84 said:Thank you all for the kind messages on here or elsewhere about the live stream. Sadly we had some problems at the start with the VP site crashing. I was gutted about this as setting up a live stream from abroad where your cameras are hundreds of miles away from your gallery is something which takes weeks or work, not hours, and from a technical side our end everything worked well and we successfully beamed two cameras back to London to be mixed and edited for the broadcast.
We will of course, be looking into as a matter or urgency why the VP site crashed and find solutions for the remaining two games. Hopefully those who caught the game on YouTube instead enjoyed it and look forward to seeing you watching the remaining two Ireland games.6 -
They were the fittest Sunday league side I've ever seen in that case. Charlton players put in a shift last night and you don't have to do that if the opposition isn't good enough. Admittedly there was a gulf in the two teams but don't fall into the lazy trap of dismissing the quality of the opposition. Those crumlin boys gave charlton exactly what we needed, and some, they can take their own performance, analyse it and push on from that. Charlton's passing was spot on, there was back up in spades, we were pushing forward constantly, creating chances and the goals were ones we will see them score against any team we play this season, even the goalkeepers fumble.AFKABartram said:I really wouldn't read anything into last night, we were literally playing a Sunday league side. Yassin Moutaouakil looked like Kyle Walker in a couple of his pre season friendlies
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Doesn't bode well for Ajose then...AFKABartram said:I really wouldn't read anything into last night, we were literally playing a Sunday league side. Yassin Moutaouakil looked like Kyle Walker in a couple of his pre season friendlies
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I watched a pre season friendly out in a Spain online a few years ago and the worst player on the pitch by far was Kermorgant.Talal said:
Doesn't bode well for Ajose then...AFKABartram said:I really wouldn't read anything into last night, we were literally playing a Sunday league side. Yassin Moutaouakil looked like Kyle Walker in a couple of his pre season friendlies
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Are you sure you're not Roland?AFKABartram said:
I watched a pre season friendly out in a Spain online a few years ago and the worst player on the pitch by far was Kermorgant.Talal said:
Doesn't bode well for Ajose then...AFKABartram said:I really wouldn't read anything into last night, we were literally playing a Sunday league side. Yassin Moutaouakil looked like Kyle Walker in a couple of his pre season friendlies
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Worrying that someone had removed the gaffer tape from our CEOs mouth for the fixture.
I trust the PR department have purchased a new roll and will be applying it in a firm (and humane) way shortly.0 -
What was pleasing was looking at the pattern of play, the players had worked on the system for a while, last PS we was all over the place with Slade coming in late etc.1
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Yes, if KR is to stick (fairly) rigidly to a system, then it should work a lot better now, now he's had the chance to really drill it in. It could be argued that by the end of last season, the players were starting to settle in to it.roseandcrown said:What was pleasing was looking at the pattern of play, the players had worked on the system for a while, last PS we was all over the place with Slade coming in late etc.
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Disagree on Ajose... He's never putting in the workrate that Varney did. Varney was also never really prolific. Looking at his entire time in football his stats are only: Played: 417 Scored:76 Assists: 42SpicedAddick said:Just back from the match. Selected reviews
Sarr - jury is out, thought he lingered on the ball a few times and invited pressure.
Crofts - glad he's with us for another year, takes a lot of pressure of the defence in possession and out.
Ceballos - we could make a winger out of him, but he's no CM
Watt - scored two crap goals, reminds me a bit of Robbie Keane who made a career of scoring rubbish goals. Maybe he's a candidate for no.10 spot.
Fosu - yes, a proper winger, looked dangerous every time he had the ball.
Novak - He didn't know how to get into that game, don't know if he can put any pressure on Josh for the starting spot.
Stewart - need another look, quiet game, didn't inspire
Barnes - looks good, fast enough to cover his mistakes, likes to get forward, would like to see him in League 1
Pearce - thought he looked assured, the other players trust him.
Kashi - a bit of class, calming influence.
Aribo - didn't look like a youngster, very cultured performance
Clarke - wouldn't like to start the season relying on him to be our no.10 looks alright, maybe needs to get used to the system, moves around lots, would be horrible to mark.
Ajose - reminds me of Jeffers, Luke Vaney, McLeod and all those goalscorers who we signed and immediately lost the ability to score goals; didn't look like he knew where to be, Crumlin's no.10 was better.
Josh - did more in 15 minutes than Ajose or Novak did in 45 each...
Ajose has already surpassed his goalscoring stats in half as many games.
I also disagree r.e Watt. Both his goals were quite good I thought. The first came at him quicker than he expected but he still got up to it and nodded it into the ground (where players are often told to head the ball)
The second was a run whilst having his shirt pulled and he poked the ball under the keeper at the perfect moment.
At the end of the day it was a typical PSF. We will need to play harder games to gauge where we are.2 -
a good confidence boosting workout for the Addicks .. hopefully next season Robinson's biggest worries will be who to leave out rather than who to select .. I would expect that a few of the players on view tonight will go out on loan very soon to get some experience and game time0
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When I say "crap goals" I don't necessarily mean that as a criticism of Watt, but of the attempts to stop him. He ought to score them goals - and he did, Fosu should have had one too but didn't.Dazzler21 said:
Disagree on Ajose... He's never putting in the workrate that Varney did. Varney was also never really prolific. Looking at his entire time in football his stats are only: Played: 417 Scored:76 Assists: 42SpicedAddick said:Just back from the match. Selected reviews
Sarr - jury is out, thought he lingered on the ball a few times and invited pressure.
Crofts - glad he's with us for another year, takes a lot of pressure of the defence in possession and out.
Ceballos - we could make a winger out of him, but he's no CM
Watt - scored two crap goals, reminds me a bit of Robbie Keane who made a career of scoring rubbish goals. Maybe he's a candidate for no.10 spot.
Fosu - yes, a proper winger, looked dangerous every time he had the ball.
Novak - He didn't know how to get into that game, don't know if he can put any pressure on Josh for the starting spot.
Stewart - need another look, quiet game, didn't inspire
Barnes - looks good, fast enough to cover his mistakes, likes to get forward, would like to see him in League 1
Pearce - thought he looked assured, the other players trust him.
Kashi - a bit of class, calming influence.
Aribo - didn't look like a youngster, very cultured performance
Clarke - wouldn't like to start the season relying on him to be our no.10 looks alright, maybe needs to get used to the system, moves around lots, would be horrible to mark.
Ajose - reminds me of Jeffers, Luke Vaney, McLeod and all those goalscorers who we signed and immediately lost the ability to score goals; didn't look like he knew where to be, Crumlin's no.10 was better.
Josh - did more in 15 minutes than Ajose or Novak did in 45 each...
Ajose has already surpassed his goalscoring stats in half as many games.
I also disagree r.e Watt. Both his goals were quite good I thought. The first came at him quicker than he expected but he still got up to it and nodded it into the ground (where players are often told to head the ball)
The second was a run whilst having his shirt pulled and he poked the ball under the keeper at the perfect moment.
At the end of the day it was a typical PSF. We will need to play harder games to gauge where we are.
I take your point on Barndoor Varney, but Ajose was pants last night.1 -
He ended up being more like Roy Walker.AFKABartram said:I really wouldn't read anything into last night, we were literally playing a Sunday league side. Yassin Moutaouakil looked like Kyle Walker in a couple of his pre season friendlies
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Yassin was decent, he made a howler vs Scunny was it? Everyone said he was awful from there on out. Even Pardew turned on him, as allegedly Yassin was making sweet love to someone he shouldn't have been and Pardew felt that was treading on his toes... Allegedly.0
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you may be Wright on that!Dazzler21 said:Yassin was decent, he made a howler vs Scunny was it? Everyone said he was awful from there on out. Even Pardew turned on him, as allegedly Yassin was making sweet love to someone he shouldn't have been and Pardew felt that was treading on his toes... Allegedly.
That first game of the season v Scunny when he set up the goal for Bent i come away thinking we had some player on our hands.2 -
The February game against Scunny he made the howler that made everyone turn on him. Scunny made him look great, then Scunny made him look below par.roseandcrown said:
you may be Wright on that!Dazzler21 said:Yassin was decent, he made a howler vs Scunny was it? Everyone said he was awful from there on out. Even Pardew turned on him, as allegedly Yassin was making sweet love to someone he shouldn't have been and Pardew felt that was treading on his toes... Allegedly.
That first game of the season v Scunny when he set up the goal for Bent i come away thinking we had some player on our hands.
A tale of two games and a player in all respects... And a funny story to boot...0 -
He then got injured in the second(?) game, away to Stoke on Sky. Danny Mills then came in and also looked good.roseandcrown said:
you may be Wright on that!Dazzler21 said:Yassin was decent, he made a howler vs Scunny was it? Everyone said he was awful from there on out. Even Pardew turned on him, as allegedly Yassin was making sweet love to someone he shouldn't have been and Pardew felt that was treading on his toes... Allegedly.
That first game of the season v Scunny when he set up the goal for Bent i come away thinking we had some player on our hands.1 -
Kashi - Yay!1
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I can'Clem_Snide said:Stream not working for me. Anyone else having issues?
Many thanks for this. been well out of the loop for 24 hours, no idea what happened. Thanks a lot.SDAddick said:To think, if the club signs on for iFollow, you could have this level of detailed analysis from me every week! What's that? It's already getting old?
Quick run down, player-by-player. Think the fact that they had a "Fifa '16" advertising hoarding speaks volumes.
Phillips: Didn't notice him
Solly: Didn't really notice him, other than he tucked in when the ball was on the opposite side of the pitch
Bauer: Didn't have much to do other than knock it about and play one big diagonal.
Sarr: He can ping it around. It's easy when you have 15 yards in front of you though. Hope he continues to get a run out in pre-season. I believe he has the ability, but the question is if this is the right club/league/time for him
JJ: Tidy. Tucked in and interchanged with Ceballos.
Stewart: Looked to get at players. Has a bit of trickiness. End product lacking
Crofts: Put himself about nicely and was solid in possession. Harder days ahead.
Ceballos: Looked hungry and very decent on the ball. Looked to press, and when he got the ball, run at players. In my mind deserving of a few more pre-season games to see if he is worth keeping.
Fosu: Good skill, tricky, quick. For whatever the tribunal fee is, I suspect we could have a real bargain.
Watt: Nice that he got two goals, pressed well, took his goals well.
Novak: Didn't see him do much.
2nd half
AMB: Did not look good on the ball, but he's only 18/9 and suspect he'll start as 4th choice.
Tex: He's got a lot of skill and technique. Ran out of steam about halfway through. He has the technical ability to play in central midfield, and if he stays I think it'd be worth having a look at him in that holding roll. Lovely chest down for Josh's goal.
Konsa: He's only 18. Looks so assured on the ball. He, like Tex and Kashi, plays good, firm passes into feet. Destined for bigger things, but think he could learn a lot from 6-12 more months at this level.
Pearce: Tidy. Not great in possession. Didn't have much to do.
Barnes: Looked decent. Got up and back on that left flank well. As @ForeverAddickted pointed out, it's probably worth seeing how he does in some of these friendlies before spending money on a right back.
KAG: Tricky, quick, dropped deep to pick up the ball and looked to run at players. Certainly looks more confident than he has since the start of 2015 season. End product was lacking but you just feel like if he gets a goal it might all click for him. Harriott-esque in many ways.
Kashi: Two footed. Good passer. Takes up good positions. Gets into passing lanes. Seemingly didn't break down in injury. If he'd stayed fit over the last couple years, who knows what would have happened. But if he comes through a season with us injury free I'll think he'll be player of the year and could get a move to a top flight club in say France or Holland or Belgium.
Aribo: It seems we've forgotten about him, but he's very tidy on the ball, tricky, has that lovely lazy skill. I like the idea of him playing in a deeper role with a bit of freedom and space to run in to. Could be a big year for him. Nice assist.
Holmes: Gave it away with every touch until the 1-2 for the goal.
Clarke: You can see what he looks to do--drop in to pockets of space, get turned, and run at the defense. Looked tidy if not altogether threatening.
Ajose: I'm surprised to learn that he played all 45 minutes of the second half. The service to him wasn't as good as it was in the first half, but that's the problem with him, he goes missing outside the 18 yard box.
Magennis: Nice goal
RCC: Glad he got a run out. Obviously didn't do much but he looks a tidy and composed player whenever I see him. A year ago it was mooted that Arsenal and Liverpool (I think it was) were looking at him. He of course joined us from Arsenal. Hope he's given a look in in pre-season.
@Ollywozere: Really, really good work doing commentary.
@Henry Irving: Top man for starting this thread
@AFKABartram: Off to a bad start, letting the side down.
Just spent 20 minutes of my life doing a player-by-player round up of a pre-season friendly. No regrets.1 -
Smile for the camera squirrel face!Henry Irving said:Loyal supporters there
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Does anybody know if a programme was produced for the game?AFKABartram said:
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I don't think you meant it like this, but let's not get in the habit of telling women to smile, okay?ElfsborgAddick said:
Smile for the camera squirrel face!Henry Irving said:Loyal supporters there
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ElfsborgAddick said:
Does anybody know if a programme was produced for the game?AFKABartram said:
Sort of. I've acquired one for @Henry Irving
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Thanks @SwisdomSwisdom said:ElfsborgAddick said:
Does anybody know if a programme was produced for the game?AFKABartram said:
Sort of. I've acquired one for @Henry Irving0
