I think Corbyn has to learn the lessons from the last election, even though he greatly exceeded expectations. He should know where the attacks will come from and the type of blows that land. A big one is Trident. I agree with his position on Trident, it doesn't make us safer in the same way that Germany or Italy are not in more danger for not having it. But as it is Labour party policy to keep it, so somebody has to be willing to push the button.
Diane Abbot has to be kept away from election campaigning as far as possible. She clearly has the support of her constituents but when she talks it feels like she is making it up as she goes along. She is too easily flustered and will cost Labour votes if she has a prominent place on the platform.
To the same effect, Corbyn needs to use people like Umana and Starmer as much as possible. This will a) link to more moderate Labour voters but b) they are star performers. I'd probably add Creasy and Ashworth to that list.
Also, It is important not to reign back on promises made in the last manifesto.
And lastly, maximise your advantages. The Tories will surely have learned from the way Labour used modern communication methods and will improve their game in that respect. Labour needs to build on there position of dominance here.
I think Corbyn has to learn the lessons from the last election, even though he greatly exceeded expectations. He should know where the attacks will come from and the type of blows that land. A big one is Trident. I agree with his position on Trident, it doesn't make us safer in the same way that Germany or Italy are not in more danger for not having it. But as it is Labour party policy to keep it, so somebody has to be willing to push the button.
Diane Abbot has to be kept away from election campaigning as far as possible. She clearly has the support of her constituents but when she talks it feels like she is making it up as she goes along. She is too easily flustered and will cost Labour votes if she has a prominent place on the platform.
To the same effect, Corbyn needs to use people like Umana and Starmer as much as possible. This will a) link to more moderate Labour voters but b) they are star performers. I'd probably add Creasy and Ashworth to that list.
Also, It is important not to reign back on promises made in the last manifesto.
And lastly, maximise your advantages. The Tories will surely have learned from the way Labour used modern communication methods and will improve their game in that respect. Labour needs to build on there position of dominance here.
Agree with most of this mutts but can’t see the Tories mastering modern communication. If anything I think any attempts by them to use it would work against them given it’s the younger generation that typically engage with it.
I think the issue I have with Corbyn now is that his principles will need to bend slightly were he to run a successful government. In some ways I admire him for sticking to his principles because I am left leaning and some elements of socialism appeal to me. BUT, and it’s why I wrote what I wrote above, On a lot of things I think is idealism won’t work on a practical level. I truly believe that his utopia is some sort of citizen smithesque, che guervara type dynasty which just won’t work with the way the world is today
At the other end of the spectrum, we’ve got the Tories who only want to represent old white people who are affluent and live in villages dotted around the English countryside. Both parties are too entrenched in their respective fantasies of what Britain looks like. The most frustrating thing is because the Tories are excelling at the moment at being their usual scummy self serving, cretinuous selves, if Corbyn did just bend and flex a bit, we could have a viable alternative. But we’ve got an absolute farce on both sides
For all their faults, and there are many, I’m not sure you can say they only represent old white people who are affluent. Struggling to come up with anything they have done particularly for the old and/or affluent!
I get why people buy into Corbyns utopia world, but personally don’t see it happening, would be interesting to see how it played out though. Think you are right regarding him flexing, the best hope is Labour get a better leader with a little more sense of reality that can kick the Tories into touch for a while.
I’m still holding out for @bobmunro winning his constituency and then forming a party country wide.
I think the issue I have with Corbyn now is that his principles will need to bend slightly were he to run a successful government. In some ways I admire him for sticking to his principles because I am left leaning and some elements of socialism appeal to me. BUT, and it’s why I wrote what I wrote above, On a lot of things I think is idealism won’t work on a practical level. I truly believe that his utopia is some sort of citizen smithesque, che guervara type dynasty which just won’t work with the way the world is today
At the other end of the spectrum, we’ve got the Tories who only want to represent old white people who are affluent and live in villages dotted around the English countryside. Both parties are too entrenched in their respective fantasies of what Britain looks like. The most frustrating thing is because the Tories are excelling at the moment at being their usual scummy self serving, cretinuous selves, if Corbyn did just bend and flex a bit, we could have a viable alternative. But we’ve got an absolute farce on both sides
For all their faults, and there are many, I’m not sure you can say they only represent old white people who are affluent. Struggling to come up with anything they have done particularly for the old and/or affluent!
I get why people buy into Corbyns utopia world, but personally don’t see it happening, would be interesting to see how it played out though. Think you are right regarding him flexing, the best hope is Labour get a better leader with a little more sense of reality that can kick the Tories into touch for a while.
I’m still holding out for @bobmunro winning his constituency and then forming a party country wide.
I was talking a bit in extremes there to be fair but I hope you get the gist. Both parties are too entrenched in their core ideaologies and if either could just be a little bit more flexible, we might have a decent government
Yes, I’m more than willing to back a bobmunro revolution too
I think the issue I have with Corbyn now is that his principles will need to bend slightly were he to run a successful government. In some ways I admire him for sticking to his principles because I am left leaning and some elements of socialism appeal to me. BUT, and it’s why I wrote what I wrote above, On a lot of things I think is idealism won’t work on a practical level. I truly believe that his utopia is some sort of citizen smithesque, che guervara type dynasty which just won’t work with the way the world is today
At the other end of the spectrum, we’ve got the Tories who only want to represent old white people who are affluent and live in villages dotted around the English countryside. Both parties are too entrenched in their respective fantasies of what Britain looks like. The most frustrating thing is because the Tories are excelling at the moment at being their usual scummy self serving, cretinuous selves, if Corbyn did just bend and flex a bit, we could have a viable alternative. But we’ve got an absolute farce on both sides
For all their faults, and there are many, I’m not sure you can say they only represent old white people who are affluent. Struggling to come up with anything they have done particularly for the old and/or affluent!
I get why people buy into Corbyns utopia world, but personally don’t see it happening, would be interesting to see how it played out though. Think you are right regarding him flexing, the best hope is Labour get a better leader with a little more sense of reality that can kick the Tories into touch for a while.
I’m still holding out for @bobmunro winning his constituency and then forming a party country wide.
I was talking a bit in extremes there to be fair but I hope you get the gist. Both parties are too entrenched in their core ideaologies and if either could just be a little bit more flexible, we might have a decent government
Yes, I’m more than willing to back a bobmunro revolution too
So we are looking for a revolution of what we have had for the last 30 years? The problem is that rightly or wrongly politics is heading in a popularist direction as a reaction to the neo -iberalism we have had. Not sure moving to the centre when everything is moving away from it is going to work. What concerns me is that the alt-right seems to be the place to go for the disaffected and in that respect, Corbyn is a beacon of light.
The political classes are just waking up to the fact that the masses are starting to feel that the system, whatever that is, isnt necessarily working for them. They are feeling cheated and angry by what they see. The established parties are being deserted for more radical ideas both left and right. People are voting oftentimes to protest and cause a shock and reaction. It’s an established theory that a large part of the Brexit vote was in protest to years of seeing the same old same old with nothing really changing for them. The stats bear out that the gap between rich and poor is widening. Even the very moderate British public eventually know when they are being taken for a ride.
I watched the Ed Balls documentaries on “Trumpland” and it gave a good insight into why intelligent people with decent jobs eg. A law enforcement officer felt that the years of the same promises and failure by both Democrats and Republicans had to change. Trump offered something different. What was there to lose ? It’s isnt just ignorant “rednecks” propping Trump up. It’s more complicated than that. I’m not suggesting that the British electorate are close to how the Americans view the world but at present Corbyn and the alt right are the only parties offering a glimmer of something different. Ten years of austerity have left a lot of people struggling and they might think the same. What have I got to lose ?
The Conservatives have a very strong core support but we know that every so often that’s not enough. Labour win elections. I’m very sceptical of Corbyn but I can see the attraction to vote for something new. I’m really not sure what policies the Tories have in their locker that will appeal and stop a drift away. The hollow rhetoric of “strong and stable” has become an albatross around May’s neck. She barely commands her own cabinet and party and even the mainstay Tory policies of law and order are falling apart. The police service is at its lowest ebb and the prison service is even more in crisis than the NHS. People are seeing this reported mainstream and are taking note. People at the lowest end of the economy have really suffered under ten years of austerity. Will they vote for the party that orchestrated that or look for something, anything different ?
My point really, is that what was accepted as normal in politics is rapidly changing right across the globe.
What happens here over the next year or so will I’m certain provide more seismic shocks to the political landscape.
Those of you that think Corbyn isn’t electable I think need to look beyond your own perceptions. I’m not saying he will win the next election but it’s foolish to think he can’t.
I think the issue I have with Corbyn now is that his principles will need to bend slightly were he to run a successful government. In some ways I admire him for sticking to his principles because I am left leaning and some elements of socialism appeal to me. BUT, and it’s why I wrote what I wrote above, On a lot of things I think is idealism won’t work on a practical level. I truly believe that his utopia is some sort of citizen smithesque, che guervara type dynasty which just won’t work with the way the world is today
At the other end of the spectrum, we’ve got the Tories who only want to represent old white people who are affluent and live in villages dotted around the English countryside. Both parties are too entrenched in their respective fantasies of what Britain looks like. The most frustrating thing is because the Tories are excelling at the moment at being their usual scummy self serving, cretinuous selves, if Corbyn did just bend and flex a bit, we could have a viable alternative. But we’ve got an absolute farce on both sides
For all their faults, and there are many, I’m not sure you can say they only represent old white people who are affluent. Struggling to come up with anything they have done particularly for the old and/or affluent!
I get why people buy into Corbyns utopia world, but personally don’t see it happening, would be interesting to see how it played out though. Think you are right regarding him flexing, the best hope is Labour get a better leader with a little more sense of reality that can kick the Tories into touch for a while.
I’m still holding out for @bobmunro winning his constituency and then forming a party country wide.
I was talking a bit in extremes there to be fair but I hope you get the gist. Both parties are too entrenched in their core ideaologies and if either could just be a little bit more flexible, we might have a decent government
Yes, I’m more than willing to back a bobmunro revolution too
I'm busy working on the manifesto - a fairly short but rather succinct tome!
Now for May's speech. My advice is use a good glue for the letters and don't mention Corbyn too much. Make your points about him of course, but if you make it all about him, he wins.
I suppose If you like Corbyn you would have thought it was a good speech and if you don't you wouldn't. I thought it was better than his last conference speech and it felt like a call to arms. A leader's speech at a conference can never contain the detail, but should show the direction. It felt to me that Corbyn was drawing the battle lines pretty clearly and there was a call for unity. I suspect May will focus her speech on Corbyn and I think that will be a mistake.
Trump won because rather than promote her own party's policies, Hillary and the Democrats mocked Trump and his voters. Same thing happened with the Leave campaign and Brexit.
You can't simply belittle an opposition campaign and expect people to fall in line and vote for you, we've seen that that doesn't work. You end up alienating some of the electorate who will then vote against you out of spite. May would do well to remember that.
Those of you that think Corbyn isn’t electable I think need to look beyond your own perceptions. I’m not saying he will win the next election but it’s foolish to think he can’t.
I still don't think he WILL be the next PM but it's a possible. He was only around 1m short of the tories on numbers of votes (number of seats are a bit different though).
So if he can persuade 1m more people to join him on his path he probably will be, but I'm not convinced he will do that. I hear very few people who didn't vote for him last time that now will, conversely you do hear of people who did who wouldn't again.
If voting age drops to 16 he's in with a greater chance but my gut feel is the more time that passes the less popular he becomes with the general public.
Brexit may play a part to change all of that if the Tories royally mess it up of course.
The Autumn budget is a little earlier this year, will be interesting to see what that entails and what giveaways they will give to win votes. It's the tories to lose.
Those of you that think Corbyn isn’t electable I think need to look beyond your own perceptions. I’m not saying he will win the next election but it’s foolish to think he can’t.
I still don't think he WILL be the next PM but it's a possible. He was only around 1m short of the tories on numbers of votes (number of seats are a bit different though).
So if he can persuade 1m more people to join him on his path he probably will be, but I'm not convinced he will do that. I hear very few people who didn't vote for him last time that now will, conversely you do hear of people who did who wouldn't again.
If voting age drops to 16 he's in with a greater chance but my gut feel is the more time that passes the less popular he becomes with the general public.
Brexit may play a part to change all of that if the Tories royally mess it up of course.
The Autumn budget is a little earlier this year, will be interesting to see what that entails and what giveaways they will give to win votes. It's the tories to lose.
I think all of that has merit. What you havn’t mentioned though is the complete mess the Tories are in and what a mess they have made of pretty much everything from the prison service to Brexit negotiations. I think there might be a lot of non fully committed Tories that might not vote at all. That might make the one million vote a lot more achievable. So much still to play out so it’s everything still up for grabs.
Those of you that think Corbyn isn’t electable I think need to look beyond your own perceptions. I’m not saying he will win the next election but it’s foolish to think he can’t.
I still don't think he WILL be the next PM but it's a possible. He was only around 1m short of the tories on numbers of votes (number of seats are a bit different though).
So if he can persuade 1m more people to join him on his path he probably will be, but I'm not convinced he will do that. I hear very few people who didn't vote for him last time that now will, conversely you do hear of people who did who wouldn't again.
If voting age drops to 16 he's in with a greater chance but my gut feel is the more time that passes the less popular he becomes with the general public.
Brexit may play a part to change all of that if the Tories royally mess it up of course.
The Autumn budget is a little earlier this year, will be interesting to see what that entails and what giveaways they will give to win votes. It's the tories to lose.
I think all of that has merit. What you havn’t mentioned though is the complete mess the Tories are in and what a mess they have made of pretty much everything from the prison service to Brexit negotiations. I think there might be a lot of non fully committed Tories that might not vote at all. That might make the one million vote a lot more achievable. So much still to play out so it’s everything still up for grabs.
I did say it's the Tories to lose, but yes much is still up for grabs, I just hope they hold out until 2022 and then I'll stop working or slow down!
Just watched Tory boy Toby Young on GMB this morning. Presented figures that showed that schools funding increased significantly since 1997 to belittle Head teachers protesting in London who claim not to have enough money to run their schools (The first time this has happened). Young accused them of trying to oust the Conservative government and being Labour supporters which was debunked by the Head teacher there.
But what struck me was his figures reflected increased support for Schools from a Labour government and then steady decreases since 2010. He did not clarify this point, but made an overall increase point from 1997 to say Head teachers shouldn't be having a problem. The head teachers were not bringing politics into it, he was, but his point showed the difference between Labour and Conservative governments! Up to 1997 Schools needed a lot of support to recover from Tory cuts and the minute they got in power, they started cutting again. Up yours Young, you Tory Boy git!
Just watched Tory boy Toby young on GMB this morning. Presented figures that showed that schools funding increased significantly since 1997 to belittle Head teachers protesting in London who claim not to have enough money to run their schools (The first time this has happened). Young accused them of trying to oust the Conservative government and being Labour supporters which was debunked by the Head teacher there.
But what struck me was his figures reflected increased support for Schools from a Labour government and then steady decreases since 2010. He did not clarify this point, but made an overall increase point from 1997 to say Head teachers shouldn't be having a problem. The head teachers were not bringing politics into it, he was, but his point showed the difference between Labour and Conservative governments! Up to 1997 Schools needed a lot of support to recover from Tory cuts and the minute they got in power, they started cutting again. Up yours Young, you Tory Boy git!
Did those increases match inflation? Or reflect the amount of students in school now? How about the needs of disabled students that we just didn't deal with back in 1997?
I have enough contact with teachers in England to know that to claim that schools are anything other than under funded is a shitty joke!
It's one of the (many) reasons I laugh when my family ask me about returning home!
i could be wrong but there is no way the constant attacks on the pm would happen if it was a man, why was corbyn out meeting with the eu officials - nothing to do with him - his party wont be in charge anytime soon.
will also be interesting to see what coverage the conservative conference gets as last nights news consisted of the same 10 mins shown the previous night of jc jigging to children of the revolution ( cock ) and then 1 min of mays day, surely the news should be impartial?.
Just watched Tory boy Toby young on GMB this morning. Presented figures that showed that schools funding increased significantly since 1997 to belittle Head teachers protesting in London who claim not to have enough money to run their schools (The first time this has happened). Young accused them of trying to oust the Conservative government and being Labour supporters which was debunked by the Head teacher there.
But what struck me was his figures reflected increased support for Schools from a Labour government and then steady decreases since 2010. He did not clarify this point, but made an overall increase point from 1997 to say Head teachers shouldn't be having a problem. The head teachers were not bringing politics into it, he was, but his point showed the difference between Labour and Conservative governments! Up to 1997 Schools needed a lot of support to recover from Tory cuts and the minute they got in power, they started cutting again. Up yours Young, you Tory Boy git!
Did those increases match inflation? Or reflect the amount of students in school now? How about the needs of disabled students that we just didn't deal with back in 1997?
I have enough contact with teachers in England to know that to claim that schools are anything other than under funded is a shitty joke!
It's one of the (many) reasons I laugh when my family ask me about returning home!
He kept using the term real terms. I hate that term! It is complete bollocks! The point is that schools are struggling sufficiently, that Head Teachers who have not taken this action before have decided to do so. That should tell us what we need to know.
Up until 15/16 year school funding per pupil kept up with inflation, not that I agreed with it but there is an argument that it increased in some areas as staff didn’t receive a pay rise.
Since then funding has fallen and on average is lower than 15/16 once you account for inflation partly due to increased numbers.
I’m a few years out of touch now but there a few years ago was a lot of wastage. No or little help seems to be given and falls to the heads and governing bodies to try to resolve/manage this as the local authorities provide little assistance. Some are better than others at that.
The new funding formula seems to have been put on hold for a while which means the current way of allocating the money sees some schools and local authorities receiving vastly different amounts to other similar schools/authorities which is a crazy place to be.
i could be wrong but there is no way the constant attacks on the pm would happen if it was a man, why was corbyn out meeting with the eu officials - nothing to do with him - his party wont be in charge anytime soon.
will also be interesting to see what coverage the conservative conference gets as last nights news consisted of the same 10 mins shown the previous night of jc jigging to children of the revolution ( cock ) and then 1 min of mays day, surely the news should be impartial?.
Well I get the sense from this that you are not a Corbynista.
As for your outrage at JC meeting with the EU as being none of his business. That’s a joke right ? Of course it’s his business. He’s leader of Her Majesty’s Opposition. It’s his duty and job to be involved. It would be a dereliction of responsibility if he wasn’t in close contact. As for his party not being in power any time soon. I suppose you try to keep up with events going on with Brexit ? As a brief recap. We have a Prime Minister clinging onto a deal (Chequers) that is unacceptable to her own party. Unacceptable to the EU and unacceptable to the House of Commons. Almost exactly six months to the Brexit date and not even remotely close to a deal being struck. Between now and then we either get a deal something other than Chequers. We can’t get a deal and crash out. Teresa May is teetering on the edge of a vote of no confidence. A leadership challenge and the bookies have a favourite date for General Election as 2019 if not before. Nobody knows what’s going to happen but one thing we can be certain of and that is nobody can say with certainty that Labour won’t be in power any time soon.
Regarding your assertion that the news should be impartial and wasn’t because it showed more minutes of JC than TM. Do you think there is a connection between the coverage of Corbyn this week because the Labour Party Conference has just ended and Corbyn made what was seen by many as a breakthrough speech ?
A public face of unity is what the Tories do best. Behind the scenes they hate each other but Party before country every time. Johnson and JRM will be on best behaviour and May will get a standing ovation after her speech.
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Diane Abbot has to be kept away from election campaigning as far as possible. She clearly has the support of her constituents but when she talks it feels like she is making it up as she goes along. She is too easily flustered and will cost Labour votes if she has a prominent place on the platform.
To the same effect, Corbyn needs to use people like Umana and Starmer as much as possible. This will a) link to more moderate Labour voters but b) they are star performers. I'd probably add Creasy and Ashworth to that list.
Also, It is important not to reign back on promises made in the last manifesto.
And lastly, maximise your advantages. The Tories will surely have learned from the way Labour used modern communication methods and will improve their game in that respect. Labour needs to build on there position of dominance here.
I get why people buy into Corbyns utopia world, but personally don’t see it happening, would be interesting to see how it played out though. Think you are right regarding him flexing, the best hope is Labour get a better leader with a little more sense of reality that can kick the Tories into touch for a while.
I’m still holding out for @bobmunro winning his constituency and then forming a party country wide.
Yes, I’m more than willing to back a bobmunro revolution too
I watched the Ed Balls documentaries on “Trumpland” and it gave a good insight into why intelligent people with decent jobs eg. A law enforcement officer felt that the years of the same promises and failure by both Democrats and Republicans had to change. Trump offered something different. What was there to lose ? It’s isnt just ignorant “rednecks” propping Trump up. It’s more complicated than that.
I’m not suggesting that the British electorate are close to how the Americans view the world but at present Corbyn and the alt right are the only parties offering a glimmer of something different. Ten years of austerity have left a lot of people struggling and they might think the same. What have I got to lose ?
The Conservatives have a very strong core support but we know that every so often that’s not enough. Labour win elections. I’m very sceptical of Corbyn but I can see the attraction to vote for something new. I’m really not sure what policies the Tories have in their locker that will appeal and stop a drift away. The hollow rhetoric of “strong and stable” has become an albatross around May’s neck. She barely commands her own cabinet and party and even the mainstay Tory policies of law and order are falling apart. The police service is at its lowest ebb and the prison service is even more in crisis than the NHS. People are seeing this reported mainstream and are taking note. People at the lowest end of the economy have really suffered under ten years of austerity. Will they vote for the party that orchestrated that or look for something, anything different ?
My point really, is that what was accepted as normal in politics is rapidly changing right across the globe.
What happens here over the next year or so will I’m certain provide more seismic shocks to the political landscape.
Those of you that think Corbyn isn’t electable I think need to look beyond your own perceptions. I’m not saying he will win the next election but it’s foolish to think he can’t.
You can't simply belittle an opposition campaign and expect people to fall in line and vote for you, we've seen that that doesn't work. You end up alienating some of the electorate who will then vote against you out of spite. May would do well to remember that.
So if he can persuade 1m more people to join him on his path he probably will be, but I'm not convinced he will do that. I hear very few people who didn't vote for him last time that now will, conversely you do hear of people who did who wouldn't again.
If voting age drops to 16 he's in with a greater chance but my gut feel is the more time that passes the less popular he becomes with the general public.
Brexit may play a part to change all of that if the Tories royally mess it up of course.
The Autumn budget is a little earlier this year, will be interesting to see what that entails and what giveaways they will give to win votes. It's the tories to lose.
But what struck me was his figures reflected increased support for Schools from a Labour government and then steady decreases since 2010. He did not clarify this point, but made an overall increase point from 1997 to say Head teachers shouldn't be having a problem. The head teachers were not bringing politics into it, he was, but his point showed the difference between Labour and Conservative governments! Up to 1997 Schools needed a lot of support to recover from Tory cuts and the minute they got in power, they started cutting again. Up yours Young, you Tory Boy git!
I have enough contact with teachers in England to know that to claim that schools are anything other than under funded is a shitty joke!
It's one of the (many) reasons I laugh when my family ask me about returning home!
will also be interesting to see what coverage the conservative conference gets as last nights news consisted of the same 10 mins shown the previous night of jc jigging to children of the revolution ( cock ) and then 1 min of mays day, surely the news should be impartial?.
Since then funding has fallen and on average is lower than 15/16 once you account for inflation partly due to increased numbers.
https://fullfact.org/education/spending-schools-england/
I’m a few years out of touch now but there a few years ago was a lot of wastage. No or little help seems to be given and falls to the heads and governing bodies to try to resolve/manage this as the local authorities provide little assistance. Some are better than others at that.
The new funding formula seems to have been put on hold for a while which means the current way of allocating the money sees some schools and local authorities receiving vastly different amounts to other similar schools/authorities which is a crazy place to be.
I wish the headteachers luck on this.
As for your outrage at JC meeting with the EU as being none of his business. That’s a joke right ? Of course it’s his business. He’s leader of Her Majesty’s Opposition. It’s his duty and job to be involved. It would be a dereliction of responsibility if he wasn’t in close contact. As for his party not being in power any time soon. I suppose you try to keep up with events going on with Brexit ? As a brief recap. We have a Prime Minister clinging onto a deal (Chequers) that is unacceptable to her own party. Unacceptable to the EU and unacceptable to the House of Commons. Almost exactly six months to the Brexit date and not even remotely close to a deal being struck. Between now and then we either get a deal something other than Chequers. We can’t get a deal and crash out. Teresa May is teetering on the edge of a vote of no confidence. A leadership challenge and the bookies have a favourite date for General Election as 2019 if not before.
Nobody knows what’s going to happen but one thing we can be certain of and that is nobody can say with certainty that Labour won’t be in power any time soon.
Regarding your assertion that the news should be impartial and wasn’t because it showed more minutes of JC than TM. Do you think there is a connection between the coverage of Corbyn this week because the Labour Party Conference has just ended and Corbyn made what was seen by many as a breakthrough speech ?
Just saying.
The sense of unity will be palpable...not.