I've also read elsewhere that it's done and will be announced early in New Year, with all staff meeting new chairman soon after announcement.
They have all ready met him, been walking around like he owns the gaff for weeks. If "he" owns the the club it will be a "bumpy ride"
He clearly will not, since he doesn't seem to have any more wedge to invest than you or I, let alone £50m, (source: VOTV) but, nevertheless, I agree, it doesn't strike the right note .
But one explanation is that they are sure they have satisfied the EFL, and are expressing their frustration that it hasn't been ratified.
To be clear, the source for Southall having no money is himself, in a court declaration explaining why he couldn’t pay an outstanding debt, earlier this year. I just found it.
A ten page feature of why on the court declaration explaining why Matt Southall was unable to pay an outstanding debt, with interviews with the court clerk, as well as the bailiffs can be read in the next issue of VOTV.
Bit early to be instigating a witch-hunt isn’t it @Airman Brown?
We really need this sorted asap. Stating the bleeding obvious but aside from the depleted League 1 squad needing some experienced Championship help, you can’t help thinking the uncertainty is affecting the entire club.
Well, if it is all systems go, I would imagine it is all systems go. If that was the case, the EFL would surely give us the green light. It has all been going on long enough, I think that until they do that, we have not satisfied them and addressed their concerns so it can't possibly be all systems go. Whilst I desperately wish it to be the case, I think we have to be realistic. Something is clearly not right here. Not saying it won't happen but if EFL has expressed its concerns why is it taking so long to address them? This has to be a valid question.
Maybe it's all systems go as they are confident of EFL approval so are getting everything in place to hit the ground running ASAP.
Well, if it is all systems go, I would imagine it is all systems go. If that was the case, the EFL would surely give us the green light. It has all been going on long enough, I think that until they do that, we have not satisfied them and addressed their concerns so it can't possibly be all systems go. Whilst I desperately wish it to be the case, I think we have to be realistic. Something is clearly not right here. Not saying it won't happen but if EFL has expressed its concerns why is it taking so long to address them? This has to be a valid question.
Maybe it's all systems go as they are confident of EFL approval so are getting everything in place to hit the ground running ASAP.
Maybe. And we all hope so but the point remains. If they are confident of EFL approval, surely we should be seeing that approval today. The EFL have clearly raised concerns and have not had those concerns sufficiently addressed to provide that approval. Is the evidence the EFL requires a secret?
Ok, maybe it is quite complicated which explains the time this is taking, but if it is that complicated, maybe ESI shouldn't be totally confident about the outcome. I want this to happen with every fibre of my being, but am becoming less confident about the outcome with every passing day. I suspect, many others on here are too.
I've also read elsewhere that it's done and will be announced early in New Year, with all staff meeting new chairman soon after announcement.
They have all ready met him, been walking around like he owns the gaff for weeks. If "he" owns the the club it will be a "bumpy ride"
Whether he owns it or runs it, why do you say that?
Because I don't trust him, he is a chancer. IF the deal goes through I could be proved wrong. If I am I'll take the flack but I don't think it will be as smooth ride.
Well, if it is all systems go, I would imagine it is all systems go. If that was the case, the EFL would surely give us the green light. It has all been going on long enough, I think that until they do that, we have not satisfied them and addressed their concerns so it can't possibly be all systems go. Whilst I desperately wish it to be the case, I think we have to be realistic. Something is clearly not right here. Not saying it won't happen but if EFL has expressed its concerns why is it taking so long to address them? This has to be a valid question.
Maybe it's all systems go as they are confident of EFL approval so are getting everything in place to hit the ground running ASAP.
Maybe. And we all hope so but the point remains. If they are confident of EFL approval, surely we should be seeing that approval today. The EFL have clearly raised concerns and have not had those concerns sufficiently addressed to provide that approval. Is the evidence the EFL requires a secret?
Ok, maybe it is quite complicated which explains the time this is taking, but if it is that complicated, maybe ESI shouldn't be totally confident about the outcome. I want this to happen with every fibre of my being, but am becoming less confident about the outcome with every passing day. I suspect, many others on here are too.
Why today? Don't understand your logic here at all.
And I don't see how "The EFL have clearly raised concerns"? Loads of us have speculated over the last couple of weeks, but it could just be taking time because they want some clarification here and there and also because of the reduced office hours over Christmas etc. Not saying that's correct either, but at this point, nothing seems "clear" either way imo
Not concerned if MS has a pot to piss in or not, it’s irrelevant to his ongoing role, which, if his early actions and words are anything to go by, is significantly more hands on and fan base friendly than RD could manage in a lifetime. He is being paid (or will be 🤞🙏) to do a job, not to invest, he is well connected within the game it seems, friendly & approachable, hopefully will run us professionally, that’s all that should matter. His wealth, or lack of it, is completely irrelevant IMO
Well, if it is all systems go, I would imagine it is all systems go. If that was the case, the EFL would surely give us the green light. It has all been going on long enough, I think that until they do that, we have not satisfied them and addressed their concerns so it can't possibly be all systems go. Whilst I desperately wish it to be the case, I think we have to be realistic. Something is clearly not right here. Not saying it won't happen but if EFL has expressed its concerns why is it taking so long to address them? This has to be a valid question.
Maybe it's all systems go as they are confident of EFL approval so are getting everything in place to hit the ground running ASAP.
That's how I took it, hence why Southall was with Gallen, presumably to discuss new players as well as watching the game.
I've also read elsewhere that it's done and will be announced early in New Year, with all staff meeting new chairman soon after announcement.
They have all ready met him, been walking around like he owns the gaff for weeks. If "he" owns the the club it will be a "bumpy ride"
He clearly will not, since he doesn't seem to have any more wedge to invest than you or I, let alone £50m, (source: VOTV) but, nevertheless, I agree, it doesn't strike the right note .
But one explanation is that they are sure they have satisfied the EFL, and are expressing their frustration that it hasn't been ratified.
To be clear, the source for Southall having no money is himself, in a court declaration explaining why he couldn’t pay an outstanding debt, earlier this year. I just found it.
A ten page feature of why on the court declaration explaining why Matt Southall was unable to pay an outstanding debt, with interviews with the court clerk, as well as the bailiffs can be read in the next issue of VOTV.
Bit early to be instigating a witch-hunt isn’t it @Airman Brown?
I've also read elsewhere that it's done and will be announced early in New Year, with all staff meeting new chairman soon after announcement.
They have all ready met him, been walking around like he owns the gaff for weeks. If "he" owns the the club it will be a "bumpy ride"
He clearly will not, since he doesn't seem to have any more wedge to invest than you or I, let alone £50m, (source: VOTV) but, nevertheless, I agree, it doesn't strike the right note .
But one explanation is that they are sure they have satisfied the EFL, and are expressing their frustration that it hasn't been ratified.
To be clear, the source for Southall having no money is himself, in a court declaration explaining why he couldn’t pay an outstanding debt, earlier this year. I just found it.
A ten page feature of why on the court declaration explaining why Matt Southall was unable to pay an outstanding debt, with interviews with the court clerk, as well as the bailiffs can be read in the next issue of VOTV.
Bit early to be instigating a witch-hunt isn’t it @Airman Brown?
I'm sorry I must have missed the part where chairmen are the financial backers of the clubs they are in charge of.
HE, TN, is the money man, probably backed by the Sheikh, and the third guy is on the board alongside HE, TN to ensure they have the majority, and therefore the shadowy Sheikh has overall control
Then you have missed the ownership structure of something like 95% of all English league clubs.
There are of course exceptions, and Chelsea would be one of them, although in the first part of Abramovic's reign he was still very hands on.
We were/are an exception, Roland was our owner and never our chairman.
Not sure I understand the overt concern re: Southall and that he appears to have a few wide boy mates.
This is a Championship football club FFS. If there is any industry and League within it that’s going to attract a few wide boys then this is it, all clubs in our division will have them buzzing like bees around a honey pot.
It sounds very much like we’re going to understand the overall picture a little better in the next few days and maybe an even fuller view by the end of Jan.
Like everyone I’m nervous because, if the sale falls through, the position looks worrying and, if it does go through, the takeover may not be the pot of gold we’re all hoping for but I’m happy to wait and see before judging.
I've also read elsewhere that it's done and will be announced early in New Year, with all staff meeting new chairman soon after announcement.
They have all ready met him, been walking around like he owns the gaff for weeks. If "he" owns the the club it will be a "bumpy ride"
He clearly will not, since he doesn't seem to have any more wedge to invest than you or I, let alone £50m, (source: VOTV) but, nevertheless, I agree, it doesn't strike the right note .
But one explanation is that they are sure they have satisfied the EFL, and are expressing their frustration that it hasn't been ratified.
To be clear, the source for Southall having no money is himself, in a court declaration explaining why he couldn’t pay an outstanding debt, earlier this year. I just found it.
What is wrong with you and your constant craving to be relevant in charlton put your feet up get your pipe out and chill out for five mins
Well, if it is all systems go, I would imagine it is all systems go. If that was the case, the EFL would surely give us the green light. It has all been going on long enough, I think that until they do that, we have not satisfied them and addressed their concerns so it can't possibly be all systems go. Whilst I desperately wish it to be the case, I think we have to be realistic. Something is clearly not right here. Not saying it won't happen but if EFL has expressed its concerns why is it taking so long to address them? This has to be a valid question.
Maybe it's all systems go as they are confident of EFL approval so are getting everything in place to hit the ground running ASAP.
Maybe. And we all hope so but the point remains. If they are confident of EFL approval, surely we should be seeing that approval today. The EFL have clearly raised concerns and have not had those concerns sufficiently addressed to provide that approval. Is the evidence the EFL requires a secret?
Ok, maybe it is quite complicated which explains the time this is taking, but if it is that complicated, maybe ESI shouldn't be totally confident about the outcome. I want this to happen with every fibre of my being, but am becoming less confident about the outcome with every passing day. I suspect, many others on here are too.
Are those concerns speculation, or factual? I'm not sure.
Plus it's been xmas, last I saw ESI were happy with the current time frame.
Well, if it is all systems go, I would imagine it is all systems go. If that was the case, the EFL would surely give us the green light. It has all been going on long enough, I think that until they do that, we have not satisfied them and addressed their concerns so it can't possibly be all systems go. Whilst I desperately wish it to be the case, I think we have to be realistic. Something is clearly not right here. Not saying it won't happen but if EFL has expressed its concerns why is it taking so long to address them? This has to be a valid question.
Maybe it's all systems go as they are confident of EFL approval so are getting everything in place to hit the ground running ASAP.
Maybe. And we all hope so but the point remains. If they are confident of EFL approval, surely we should be seeing that approval today. The EFL have clearly raised concerns and have not had those concerns sufficiently addressed to provide that approval. Is the evidence the EFL requires a secret?
Ok, maybe it is quite complicated which explains the time this is taking, but if it is that complicated, maybe ESI shouldn't be totally confident about the outcome. I want this to happen with every fibre of my being, but am becoming less confident about the outcome with every passing day. I suspect, many others on here are too.
Why today? Don't understand your logic here at all.
And I don't see how "The EFL have clearly raised concerns"? Loads of us have speculated over the last couple of weeks, but it could just be taking time because they want some clarification here and there and also because of the reduced office hours over Christmas etc. Not saying that's correct either, but at this point, nothing seems "clear" either way imo
Which is my point. Nothing is clear so whilst it could happen, we shouldn't be getting carried away with it will happen. My logic is if EFL do their investigations and find a potential issue (Airman has indicated that to be the case) you then have to address that issue. I understand it can take time if it is complicated, and it has. But basically, they have the question, you have to give them the answer. Then they have to be satisfied with that answer or not.
My logic is that given the time it has taken we shouldn't be banking on the answer satisfying them until they state they are satisfied. All this, they are on the brink of agreeing. Surely they have the information required to agree or disagree or they don't yet have the information and if it is the former, we should be getting that agreement imminently given the time it has taken and the importance to us of an imminent transfer window. I can't see the EFL saying, thanks for giving us what we require but we will sit on it for a week or two. It has to be that we haven't given them what they need yet, which positively isn't the same as giving them something they are not satisfied with.
Everything above is speculation, trying to make sense of what is happening. If the deal is on the brink of approval (all systems go) surely we can expect that approval to be today.
It's not that our new figurehead isn't minted that worries me, it's that he's (allegedly) someone who messes around people he owes money to that's the concern. The chairman should be someone with integrity and dodging debts is something you'd expect from a fly by night chancer.
They've given Bowyer the go ahead to find another striker... They've said it's all systems go... I am near certain it'll be announced in the next couple of days.
But then we've all been wrong a few times on this. 2nd or 3rd of January we'll be told.
I've also read elsewhere that it's done and will be announced early in New Year, with all staff meeting new chairman soon after announcement.
They have all ready met him, been walking around like he owns the gaff for weeks. If "he" owns the the club it will be a "bumpy ride"
He clearly will not, since he doesn't seem to have any more wedge to invest than you or I, let alone £50m, (source: VOTV) but, nevertheless, I agree, it doesn't strike the right note .
But one explanation is that they are sure they have satisfied the EFL, and are expressing their frustration that it hasn't been ratified.
To be clear, the source for Southall having no money is himself, in a court declaration explaining why he couldn’t pay an outstanding debt, earlier this year. I just found it.
What is wrong with you and your constant craving to be relevant in charlton put your feet up get your pipe out and chill out for five mins
I have a great idea let's all write to Uncle Roland saying we were wrong about him, that we apologise and asking him to stay.
We have desperate for the old prune to go and now we are slagging off our potential new owners. Please give them a chance but by all means don't treat them as the messiah.
It's not that our new figurehead isn't minted that worries me, it's that he's someone who messes around people he owes money to that's the concern. The chairman should be someone with integrity and dodging debts is something you'd expect from a fly by night chancer.
Maybe if we spent enough time investigating other Chairmen in the game, there's probably a few more financial skeletons, but if they're doing an acceptablr job, what people don't know, don't bother them
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Stating the bleeding obvious but aside from the depleted League 1 squad needing some experienced Championship help, you can’t help thinking the uncertainty is affecting the entire club.
Ok, maybe it is quite complicated which explains the time this is taking, but if it is that complicated, maybe ESI shouldn't be totally confident about the outcome. I want this to happen with every fibre of my being, but am becoming less confident about the outcome with every passing day. I suspect, many others on here are too.
And I don't see how "The EFL have clearly raised concerns"? Loads of us have speculated over the last couple of weeks, but it could just be taking time because they want some clarification here and there and also because of the reduced office hours over Christmas etc. Not saying that's correct either, but at this point, nothing seems "clear" either way imo
He is being paid (or will be 🤞🙏) to do a job, not to invest, he is well connected within the game it seems, friendly & approachable, hopefully will run us professionally, that’s all that should matter.
His wealth, or lack of it, is completely irrelevant IMO
https://www.castrust.org/2014/01/murray-back-in-chairmans-seat-as-duchatelet-take-over-completes/
When it's on the official site
This is a Championship football club FFS. If there is any industry and League within it that’s going to attract a few wide boys then this is it, all clubs in our division will have them buzzing like bees around a honey pot.
It sounds very much like we’re going to understand the overall picture a little better in the next few days and maybe an even fuller view by the end of Jan.
Like everyone I’m nervous because, if the sale falls through, the position looks worrying and, if it does go through, the takeover may not be the pot of gold we’re all hoping for but I’m happy to wait and see before judging.
fuck me your like a miss Marple
Plus it's been xmas, last I saw ESI were happy with the current time frame.
My logic is that given the time it has taken we shouldn't be banking on the answer satisfying them until they state they are satisfied. All this, they are on the brink of agreeing. Surely they have the information required to agree or disagree or they don't yet have the information and if it is the former, we should be getting that agreement imminently given the time it has taken and the importance to us of an imminent transfer window. I can't see the EFL saying, thanks for giving us what we require but we will sit on it for a week or two. It has to be that we haven't given them what they need yet, which positively isn't the same as giving them something they are not satisfied with.
Everything above is speculation, trying to make sense of what is happening. If the deal is on the brink of approval (all systems go) surely we can expect that approval to be today.
just added the same 😂
But then we've all been wrong a few times on this. 2nd or 3rd of January we'll be told.
We have desperate for the old prune to go and now we are slagging off our potential new owners. Please give them a chance but by all means don't treat them as the messiah.