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The Takeover Thread - Duchatelet Finally Sells (Jan 2020)

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  • Maybe it has been done to create one share for each member of our new consortium and each individual in Abu Dhabi will be gifted a share for Xmas with us run on a voting basis by shareholders so pick the team etc just like Ebbsfleet were and that is what Bowyer thought was strange.

    (Joke)
  • Rossman92 said:
    Anyone know what this bottom bit might mean (Administrator, Administrative Receiver ect.)? -


    Would assume that to be the club secretary, so Chris Parkes?
    Is Parkes not "just" the football secretary, not the company sec? 
  • Cafc43v3r said:
    Anyone know what this bottom bit might mean (Administrator, Administrative Receiver ect.)? -


    It's just a list of people that "could have" filed it.  It's 1 of, not all of them. 
    Take a stab in the dark and guess Director then
  • It is a way of spending money or a way of not spending money. Is it good or is it bad? I don't care much because I much more prefer all this mob to the last two lots, maybe wrong but doubt it.
    Agreed. 
    How are you anyway mate. 
    All ok I hope 
    All good Stevey Boy, anytime you are down this way then let me know.
  • Cafc43v3r said:
    Anyone know what this bottom bit might mean (Administrator, Administrative Receiver ect.)? -


    It's just a list of people that "could have" filed it.  It's 1 of, not all of them. 
    Take a stab in the dark and guess Director then
    Hopefully it isn't the receiver! 
  • edited December 2019
    It is a choice of permitted signatories. As were are not nor likely to be in receivership, those you mention will not apply.  Almost certainly RD as EFI not registered as new owner. Someone needs to clarify any changes to Baton 2010 or whoever else controls CAFC Ltd.  Seems no change.
  • It is a way of spending money or a way of not spending money. Is it good or is it bad? I don't care much because I much more prefer all this mob to the last two lots, maybe wrong but doubt it.
    Agreed. 
    How are you anyway mate. 
    All ok I hope 
    All good Stevey Boy, anytime you are down this way then let me know.
    Will do Mark 
  • edited December 2019
    Cafc43v3r said:
    Rossman92 said:
    Anyone know what this bottom bit might mean (Administrator, Administrative Receiver ect.)? -


    Would assume that to be the club secretary, so Chris Parkes?
    Is Parkes not "just" the football secretary, not the company sec? 
    It’ll be nothing to do with Chris Parkes. 

    Bearing in mind that the entity which needs to change hands is Baton 2010 Limited - which owns both the football company and holdings limited, which in turn owns the freehold of The Valley and Sparrows Lane - I’m not sure why you would issue new shares in the football company. It does seem likely to be a debt swap.
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  • cafcfan said:
    I'll repeat IMO it's just a bit of cash-free accountancy hocus pocus to switch a property revaluation uplift from the reserve account to equity.  Nothing to see here other than a bit of housekeeping.  (Hopefully by way of preparation for sale).
    Agree it’s preparation. It’s not evidence of a sale or a cash injection.
    Could be just tidying up for RD’s end of tax year accounting.
  • Cafc43v3r said:
    Rossman92 said:
    Anyone know what this bottom bit might mean (Administrator, Administrative Receiver ect.)? -


    Would assume that to be the club secretary, so Chris Parkes?
    Is Parkes not "just" the football secretary, not the company sec? 
    It’ll be nothing to do with Chris Parkes. 

    Bearing in mind that the entity which needs to change hands is Baton 2010 Limited - which owns both the football company and holdings limited, which in turn owns the freehold of The Valley and Sparrows Lane - I’m not sure why you would issue new shares in the football company. It does seem likely to be a debt swap.
    Could this be a bit of creative accounting? Buy the club for 21.5mill and buy the stadium separately for FFP reasons? 
  • cafcfan said:
    I'll repeat IMO it's just a bit of cash-free accountancy hocus pocus to switch a property revaluation uplift from the reserve account to equity.  Nothing to see here other than a bit of housekeeping.  (Hopefully by way of preparation for sale).
    And in English?
  • CAFCsayer said:
    Cafc43v3r said:
    Rossman92 said:
    Anyone know what this bottom bit might mean (Administrator, Administrative Receiver ect.)? -


    Would assume that to be the club secretary, so Chris Parkes?
    Is Parkes not "just" the football secretary, not the company sec? 
    It’ll be nothing to do with Chris Parkes. 

    Bearing in mind that the entity which needs to change hands is Baton 2010 Limited - which owns both the football company and holdings limited, which in turn owns the freehold of The Valley and Sparrows Lane - I’m not sure why you would issue new shares in the football company. It does seem likely to be a debt swap.
    Could this be a bit of creative accounting? Buy the club for 21.5mill and buy the stadium separately for FFP reasons? 
    Don’t see that you’d need to issue new shares to do that. 
  • There could be an announcement Monday or Tuesday I reckon.
    The weekend is critical
    The next 2 weeks are vital.
  • Cafc43v3r said:
    Rossman92 said:
    Anyone know what this bottom bit might mean (Administrator, Administrative Receiver ect.)? -


    Would assume that to be the club secretary, so Chris Parkes?
    Is Parkes not "just" the football secretary, not the company sec? 
    It’ll be nothing to do with Chris Parkes. 
    That's what I just said 
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  • Seems like the sort of finance structural tidying up you'd do before a takeover, otherwise why do it now?
  • What does it all mean?
    Roland owns the club. Is he breaking it up into 21 million bits.... Or 65 million on account of staprix, and giving them to himself?
  • Cafc43v3r said:
    Rossman92 said:
    Anyone know what this bottom bit might mean (Administrator, Administrative Receiver ect.)? -


    Would assume that to be the club secretary, so Chris Parkes?
    Is Parkes not "just" the football secretary, not the company sec? 
    It’ll be nothing to do with Chris Parkes. 

    Bearing in mind that the entity which needs to change hands is Baton 2010 Limited - which owns both the football company and holdings limited, which in turn owns the freehold of The Valley and Sparrows Lane - I’m not sure why you would issue new shares in the football company. It does seem likely to be a debt swap.
    As a point of order if Baton owned 100% of the football company, then new shares are issued to a 3rd party, reducing Batons holding to 20%, that would in effect separate the football and property companies? 
  • Cafc43v3r said:
    Cafc43v3r said:
    Rossman92 said:
    Anyone know what this bottom bit might mean (Administrator, Administrative Receiver ect.)? -


    Would assume that to be the club secretary, so Chris Parkes?
    Is Parkes not "just" the football secretary, not the company sec? 
    It’ll be nothing to do with Chris Parkes. 
    That's what I just said 
    Yes, I was agreeing with you.
  • There could be an announcement Monday or Tuesday I reckon.
    Don't you start :p
  • seth plum said:
    What does it all mean?
    Roland owns the club. Is he breaking it up into 21 million bits.... Or 65 million on account of staprix, and giving them to himself?
    Cafcfan told us what it is twice.
    Lastly at 9.59pm.
    I think he's right from memory. 
  • edited December 2019
    Cafc43v3r said:
    Cafc43v3r said:
    Rossman92 said:
    Anyone know what this bottom bit might mean (Administrator, Administrative Receiver ect.)? -


    Would assume that to be the club secretary, so Chris Parkes?
    Is Parkes not "just" the football secretary, not the company sec? 
    It’ll be nothing to do with Chris Parkes. 

    Bearing in mind that the entity which needs to change hands is Baton 2010 Limited - which owns both the football company and holdings limited, which in turn owns the freehold of The Valley and Sparrows Lane - I’m not sure why you would issue new shares in the football company. It does seem likely to be a debt swap.
    As a point of order if Baton owned 100% of the football company, then new shares are issued to a 3rd party, reducing Batons holding to 20%, that would in effect separate the football and property companies? 
    However we have no evidence they have been issued to a third party at this point. Also have to think how the ex-directors’ loans would play into this, if at all, given the loans are secured on the assets.
  • cafcfan said:
    I'll repeat IMO it's just a bit of cash-free accountancy hocus pocus to switch a property revaluation uplift from the reserve account to equity.  Nothing to see here other than a bit of housekeeping.  (Hopefully by way of preparation for sale).
    Yeah.
    I am unfamiliar with what the terms mean. It seems to mean something like taking your money from the penny jar to the counting machine and converting it into vouchers. Or maybe getting a loft conversion paid for from savings, so the money is in your house rather than your ISA
  • Cafc43v3r said:
    Cafc43v3r said:
    Rossman92 said:
    Anyone know what this bottom bit might mean (Administrator, Administrative Receiver ect.)? -


    Would assume that to be the club secretary, so Chris Parkes?
    Is Parkes not "just" the football secretary, not the company sec? 
    It’ll be nothing to do with Chris Parkes. 
    That's what I just said 
    Yes, I was agreeing with you.
    Sorry its some times hard to tell 
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