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The Takeover Thread - Duchatelet Finally Sells (Jan 2020)

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  • ShootersHillGuru
    ShootersHillGuru Posts: 50,612
    Truth is the last two sales of CAFC have proved to be disastrous. I’m hopeful that this latest takeover is going to be fantastic but there are no guarantees that will be the case. Until I know otherwise I will proceed with caution. 
  • 1905
    1905 Posts: 2,751
    ShootersHillGuru said:
    1905 said:
    ShootersHillGuru said:
    1905 said:
    ShootersHillGuru said:
    No not only in Charlton land. Absolutely nothing wrong with fans doing due diligence. 
    Fans doing due dilligence is nonsense. Unless  due dilligence is based upon a few pics of the directors box and some google searches. 
    You carry on thinking that. For quite a lot of us it’s quite important that we know about the people that are taking ownership of the club. Football finances are mad and unforgiving and getting the wrong owner could easily spell complete disaster. Ask Bury fans what they think. But you carry on.
    But it needs to be formally announced so you know who is involved, then play forensic accountants. 
    Not sure if you missed it but there was a formal announcement on the OS on 29th November stating exactly who is involved. Keep up.
    Why are people still discussing where the funds are coming from then?  Keep up 
  • ShootersHillGuru
    ShootersHillGuru Posts: 50,612
    1905 said:
    ShootersHillGuru said:
    1905 said:
    ShootersHillGuru said:
    1905 said:
    ShootersHillGuru said:
    No not only in Charlton land. Absolutely nothing wrong with fans doing due diligence. 
    Fans doing due dilligence is nonsense. Unless  due dilligence is based upon a few pics of the directors box and some google searches. 
    You carry on thinking that. For quite a lot of us it’s quite important that we know about the people that are taking ownership of the club. Football finances are mad and unforgiving and getting the wrong owner could easily spell complete disaster. Ask Bury fans what they think. But you carry on.
    But it needs to be formally announced so you know who is involved, then play forensic accountants. 
    Not sure if you missed it but there was a formal announcement on the OS on 29th November stating exactly who is involved. Keep up.
    Why are people still discussing where the funds are coming from then?  Keep up 
    Because we don’t know.
  • AppyAddick
    AppyAddick Posts: 1,474
    FFS, I will be glad when the EFL have done the work and approved the sale. We can then close down this thread and enjoy watching our Charlton come back to us. 

    These are not a bunch of chancers, they have huge financial clout and they want to invest in making us a prem club again. 

    We will see that when the deal is approved, new deals and some great investment in the squad. Keep the faith... 

  • PragueAddick
    PragueAddick Posts: 22,141
    edited December 2019
    A poster who doesn't post so much nowadays, @DamoNorthStand, mentioned very briefly soon after the news broke that "they" by which I believe he meant Nimer and whom he represents, are involved, very quietly, in F1, and as Damo said, you need serious wedge for that. I have tagged Damo, because with his professional background that he has previously mentioned, he would know his stuff on this, and I hope he might tell us more.For example, do you "invest" in F1 to make money? I have no idea, but I think it is usually a vanity/PR project, in which case buying a London footie club would be following a pattern. Another pattern is for Middle Eastern royal families to invest in big football clubs as PR for the nation concerned (Citeh, PSG). I can't really believe purchasing Charlton would be seen as falling into that bracket, but if we knew that Nimer is already involved in F1, I think that would be positive news for us.

    On the other hand anyone criticising @Airman Brown without having actually read VOTV  is sticking their head in the sand. @carly burn I can recall you sniffing in similar manner at the negative stuff which Airman and others discovered about the Sebastian Sainsbury bid in 2010, yet it turned out to be well founded, and Lee Amis was involved with that one. Whether you like it or not, VOTV contains pertinent verified facts about some people involved, albeit not Nimer because its not so easy to get info on such a person. And he seems to be the key to whether this may work out well for us or not.

    I've got an open mind on this one, therefore, but every day longer the EFL feel unable to ratify it, the more wary I am of it. 

    (EDIT) written before @JamesSeed post above.
  • bobmunro
    bobmunro Posts: 20,840
    KBslittlesis said:
    ElfsborgAddick said:
    ricky_otto said:
    Rossman92 said:
    They seem like a lovely family




    His Daughter looks like Dwight Gayle. 
    First glance I thought this was Trump's wife.
    Please don’t.
    say what you like about him but leave his wife & kid alone.
    thank you.
    Absolutely this.
  • Off_it
    Off_it Posts: 28,828
    His wife is a stunner. 

    I dont really see the problem with mentioning that when he keeps posting pictures of her. As long as it doesnt overstep the mark.
  • Stu_of_Kunming
    Stu_of_Kunming Posts: 17,116
    @PragueAddick - City were not even playing in Europe  prior to their oil money arriving, so it's not like these families only buy massive clubs.
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  • ricky_otto
    ricky_otto Posts: 22,600
    KBslittlesis said:
    ElfsborgAddick said:
    ricky_otto said:
    Rossman92 said:
    They seem like a lovely family




    His Daughter looks like Dwight Gayle. 
    First glance I thought this was Trump's wife.
    Please don’t.
    say what you like about him but leave his wife & kid alone.
    thank you.
    Christ it’s only a joke. 
  • WhenIwasLittleBoy
    WhenIwasLittleBoy Posts: 5,430
    Off_it said:
    I sometimes wonder that unless we get some sort of communist/hippy/commune-style ownership some people just aren't gonna be happy.

    I wonder what Derek Hatton and Arthur Scargill are up to these days? Maybe we could persuade them to join a consortium with Ken Livingstone and Len McCluskey?
    Diane Abbot as financial director.
  • golfaddick
    golfaddick Posts: 33,613
    Wouldn't be surprised if, after reading on here, that ESI pull out. If so.....I hope some of you will be well pleased with yourselves.

    Numpties.
  • ricky_otto
    ricky_otto Posts: 22,600
    edited December 2019
    golfaddick said:
    Wouldn't be surprised if, after reading on here, that ESI pull out. If so.....I hope some of you will be well pleased with yourselves.

    Numpties.
    You think they would pull out over a few negative comments? Please.
  • ricky_otto
    ricky_otto Posts: 22,600
    KBslittlesis said:
    ricky_otto said:
    KBslittlesis said:
    ElfsborgAddick said:
    ricky_otto said:
    Rossman92 said:
    They seem like a lovely family




    His Daughter looks like Dwight Gayle. 
    First glance I thought this was Trump's wife.
    Please don’t.
    say what you like about him but leave his wife & kid alone.
    thank you.
    Christ it’s only a joke. 
    Wasn’t remotely funny & in bad taste imo.
    I think he reads this site & I don’t want our prospective new Chairman thinking his daughter is fair game for insensitive jokes/comments.
    We’re better than that.
    Fair enough. 
  • ElfsborgAddick
    ElfsborgAddick Posts: 29,020
    ricky_otto said:
    KBslittlesis said:
    ElfsborgAddick said:
    ricky_otto said:
    Rossman92 said:
    They seem like a lovely family




    His Daughter looks like Dwight Gayle. 
    First glance I thought this was Trump's wife.
    Please don’t.
    say what you like about him but leave his wife & kid alone.
    thank you.
    Christ it’s only a joke. 
    Exactly.
  • ElfsborgAddick
    ElfsborgAddick Posts: 29,020
    golfaddick said:
    Wouldn't be surprised if, after reading on here, that ESI pull out. If so.....I hope some of you will be well pleased with yourselves.

    Numpties.
    Laughable comment.
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  • ElfsborgAddick
    ElfsborgAddick Posts: 29,020
    ricky_otto said:
    golfaddick said:
    Wouldn't be surprised if, after reading on here, that ESI pull out. If so.....I hope some of you will be well pleased with yourselves.

    Numpties.
    You think they would pull out over a few negative comments? Please.
    Sometimes I wonder how people get out of bed in the morning.


  • iamdan
    iamdan Posts: 2,421
    #blamericky
  • ElfsborgAddick
    ElfsborgAddick Posts: 29,020
    iamdan said:
    #blamericky
    #ottoandelfsarethegoodguys
  • PragueAddick
    PragueAddick Posts: 22,141
    Stu_of_Kunming said:
    @PragueAddick - City were not even playing in Europe  prior to their oil money arriving, so it's not like these families only buy massive clubs.
    Fair point, but we'd be kidding ourselves if we compared ourselves to City even so, as an acquisition which would make the Western world look more favourably on Abu Dhabi as a nation. But that's OK. If it is true that they are in F1, but under the radar, then that tells us  that they invest in sport for their own purposes rather than as PR for the wider nation. 
  • Chizz
    Chizz Posts: 28,329
    PragueAddick said:
    Stu_of_Kunming said:
    @PragueAddick - City were not even playing in Europe  prior to their oil money arriving, so it's not like these families only buy massive clubs.
    Fair point, but we'd be kidding ourselves if we compared ourselves to City even so, as an acquisition which would make the Western world look more favourably on Abu Dhabi as a nation. But that's OK. If it is true that they are in F1, but under the radar, then that tells us  that they invest in sport for their own purposes rather than as PR for the wider nation. 
    I'm just a bit worried about how much public money is going to be diverted into capital spending on our new stadium. I mean, obviously it will be great to be playing home games in the 100,000 capacity Abu Dhabi National Stadium ( "The Abu Valley"). But I hope we don't get embroiled in years' worth of FOI requests. 
  • CAFCsayer
    CAFCsayer Posts: 10,222
    PragueAddick said:
    Stu_of_Kunming said:
    @PragueAddick - City were not even playing in Europe  prior to their oil money arriving, so it's not like these families only buy massive clubs.
    Fair point, but we'd be kidding ourselves if we compared ourselves to City even so, as an acquisition which would make the Western world look more favourably on Abu Dhabi as a nation. But that's OK. If it is true that they are in F1, but under the radar, then that tells us  that they invest in sport for their own purposes rather than as PR for the wider nation. 
    To play devil's advocate... I'm not saying they are going to go gung ho and throw a lot of money at us... But a team in Manchester or a team, potentially, in the Royal Borough of Greenwich? I think one would look more favourable competing at the top to the other
  • CAFCsayer
    CAFCsayer Posts: 10,222
    And on the flip side, even if they are investing for their own entertainment purposes, I'd hazard a guess that the type of people they would be entertaining aren't going to be swayed by Luton at home
  • addick100
    addick100 Posts: 47
    Anyone got any concrete updates from the EFL? Didnt someone here used to have a pal working there?
  • Redrobo
    Redrobo Posts: 11,330
    addick100 said:
    Anyone got any concrete updates from the EFL? Didnt someone here used to have a pal working there?
    Friday mate. All went home hours ago.
  • PragueAddick
    PragueAddick Posts: 22,141
    CAFCsayer said:
    And on the flip side, even if they are investing for their own entertainment purposes, I'd hazard a guess that the type of people they would be entertaining aren't going to be swayed by Luton at home
    Well, yes, I'd certainly agree with this second point, if indeed they are as serious as they seem. Less sure about your previous point though; every football fan in the world had heard of Manchester United  long before the FAPL was invented. I think the London thing is sometimes a bit overdone.

    Then there is the Valley. I was kind of taking comfort from the fact that no rumours have surfaced yet about a new stadium associated with the bid. AFAIK there isn't an obvious site in the Royal Borough any more. I'm always wary of Lee Amis remark in 2013 "It's always a property play". For that reason I'd be happy if they just want to get us into the FAPL, and fill the Valley as it is. Nowadays that is enough to create a profitable business, which wasn't yet true for most FAPL clubs in 2013. 
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