I really can’t believe that Sheikh Saeed Bin Tahnoun Bin Mohammed Al Nahyan isn’t involved. From my (albeit limited) understanding, Nimer is purchasing the club on behalf of ADBD, which is bankrolled by the Sheikh. If this was a side business for Nimer, I can’t see why they would mention ADBD in the club statement, or why the CEO of ADBD (Jonathan Heller) would be a director at the club.
Nimer doesn’t seem stupid enough to waste a significant portion of his own wealth on a second-tier football club on the other side of the planet. In my opinion, the Sheikh is directly involved in this deal and the majority of the investment will be coming from ADBD, which is essentially the Sheikh’s bank account.
I prefer my real ale to be chilled as otherwise it can get too lively when poured (especially bottle conditioned). Outside this time of year tends to be cool enough (especially as the fridge is too full with turkey etc anyway) but no way can it be drunk at room temperatures, especially in a centrally heated house
Just a thought - if possible leave it outside in the garden?
I really can’t believe that Sheikh Saeed Bin Tahnoun Bin Mohammed Al Nahyan isn’t involved. From my (albeit limited) understanding, Nimer is purchasing the club on behalf of ADBD, which is bankrolled by the Sheikh. If this was a side business for Nimer, I can’t see why they would mention ADBD in the club statement, or why the CEO of ADBD (Jonathan Heller) would be a director at the club.
Nimer doesn’t seem stupid enough to waste a significant portion of his own wealth on a second-tier football club on the other side of the planet. In my opinion, the Sheikh is directly involved in this deal and the majority of the investment will be coming from ADBD, which is essentially the Sheikh’s bank account.
No, Nimer is not purchasing the club on behalf of ADBD - if he were then Sheikh Saeed would be the owner of ESI (the Sheik owns ADBD), and we know that Nimer is the majority shareholder of ESI.
ADBD was mentioned on the basis of who these people are, not who they represent.
That said, I still have an inkling that the Sheikh is somehow involved.
I prefer my real ale to be chilled as otherwise it can get too lively when poured (especially bottle conditioned). Outside this time of year tends to be cool enough (especially as the fridge is too full with turkey etc anyway) but no way can it be drunk at room temperatures, especially in a centrally heated house
Just a thought - if possible leave it outside in the garden?
That is where the bottle is now, frost not predicted but sure to be below the 11c I am looking for.
Just had a nasty thought that I have been saving it for the takeover for so long it may be out of date! I think I will move it to the conservatory.
If I was worth £500 million, I’m not sure if I would have a boss .
He is the chairman of the ADBD, this is a business he runs for Sheikh Saeed Bin Tahnoun Bin Mohammed Al Nahyan.
That business then funds nearly 60 other companies, i suspect we will see some of these involved in sponsorship in some way with Charlton in the future.
In my opinion they are not in this to just play at it, they will mean business and will invest to ensure we are competitive.They wont want to be poor relations of other middle east invested clubs. I would expect when it is approved that we will see intent straight away.
Have a Merry Christmas all
The way I see it, if Timer looks after & invests on behalf of Al Nahyan then I wouldnt put it past the realms if possibility that some of the future monies (for player purchases) would come from here & not Timer's own wealth.
I really can’t believe that Sheikh Saeed Bin Tahnoun Bin Mohammed Al Nahyan isn’t involved. From my (albeit limited) understanding, Nimer is purchasing the club on behalf of ADBD, which is bankrolled by the Sheikh. If this was a side business for Nimer, I can’t see why they would mention ADBD in the club statement, or why the CEO of ADBD (Jonathan Heller) would be a director at the club.
Nimer doesn’t seem stupid enough to waste a significant portion of his own wealth on a second-tier football club on the other side of the planet. In my opinion, the Sheikh is directly involved in this deal and the majority of the investment will be coming from ADBD, which is essentially the Sheikh’s bank account.
No, Nimer is not purchasing the club on behalf of ADBD - if he were then Sheik Saeed would be the owner of ESI (the Sheik owns ADBD), and we know that Nimer is the majority shareholder of ESI.
ADBD was mentioned on the basis of who these people are, not who they represent.
That said, I still have an inkling that the Sheik is somehow involved.
Agreed, but the question of Hellers involvement is still significant given his ties to ADBD. I guess one answer is Nimer rates and trusts him. But if this was an independent project aside from ADBD, you would expect to see different individuals. We have that with Southall but the optimist in me says Hellers involvement does mean it’s not completely independent.
I really can’t believe that Sheikh Saeed Bin Tahnoun Bin Mohammed Al Nahyan isn’t involved. From my (albeit limited) understanding, Nimer is purchasing the club on behalf of ADBD, which is bankrolled by the Sheikh. If this was a side business for Nimer, I can’t see why they would mention ADBD in the club statement, or why the CEO of ADBD (Jonathan Heller) would be a director at the club.
Nimer doesn’t seem stupid enough to waste a significant portion of his own wealth on a second-tier football club on the other side of the planet. In my opinion, the Sheikh is directly involved in this deal and the majority of the investment will be coming from ADBD, which is essentially the Sheikh’s bank account.
No, Nimer is not purchasing the club on behalf of ADBD - if he were then Sheikh Saeed would be the owner of ESI (the Sheik owns ADBD), and we know that Nimer is the majority shareholder of ESI.
ADBD was mentioned on the basis of who these people are, not who they represent.
That said, I still have an inkling that the Sheikh is somehow involved.
Why do you have an inkling that the Sheikh is involved if this purchase is not part of his 60-odd businesses run by ADBD? Why would the Chairman and CEO of ADBD purchase a championship football club without there being any involvement from ADBD? The only way this purchase makes sense is if it's part of the Sheikh's bandolier of businesses - otherwise it's financial suicide for Nimer and Heller.
I really can’t believe that Sheikh Saeed Bin Tahnoun Bin Mohammed Al Nahyan isn’t involved. From my (albeit limited) understanding, Nimer is purchasing the club on behalf of ADBD, which is bankrolled by the Sheikh. If this was a side business for Nimer, I can’t see why they would mention ADBD in the club statement, or why the CEO of ADBD (Jonathan Heller) would be a director at the club.
Nimer doesn’t seem stupid enough to waste a significant portion of his own wealth on a second-tier football club on the other side of the planet. In my opinion, the Sheikh is directly involved in this deal and the majority of the investment will be coming from ADBD, which is essentially the Sheikh’s bank account.
No, Nimer is not purchasing the club on behalf of ADBD - if he were then Sheikh Saeed would be the owner of ESI (the Sheik owns ADBD), and we know that Nimer is the majority shareholder of ESI.
ADBD was mentioned on the basis of who these people are, not who they represent.
That said, I still have an inkling that the Sheikh is somehow involved.
Why do you have an inkling that the Sheikh is involved if this purchase is not part of his 60-odd businesses run by ADBD? Why would the Chairman and CEO of ADBD purchase a championship football club without there being any involvement from ADBD? The only way this purchase makes sense is if it's part of the Sheikh's bandolier of businesses - otherwise it's financial suicide for Nimer and Heller.
Aren’t the EFL checking to see if he’s involved? That’s where the query is isn’t it? if I’m not mistaken then the sheikh is the link to the Mansours at city.
I really can’t believe that Sheikh Saeed Bin Tahnoun Bin Mohammed Al Nahyan isn’t involved. From my (albeit limited) understanding, Nimer is purchasing the club on behalf of ADBD, which is bankrolled by the Sheikh. If this was a side business for Nimer, I can’t see why they would mention ADBD in the club statement, or why the CEO of ADBD (Jonathan Heller) would be a director at the club.
Nimer doesn’t seem stupid enough to waste a significant portion of his own wealth on a second-tier football club on the other side of the planet. In my opinion, the Sheikh is directly involved in this deal and the majority of the investment will be coming from ADBD, which is essentially the Sheikh’s bank account.
No, Nimer is not purchasing the club on behalf of ADBD - if he were then Sheikh Saeed would be the owner of ESI (the Sheik owns ADBD), and we know that Nimer is the majority shareholder of ESI.
ADBD was mentioned on the basis of who these people are, not who they represent.
That said, I still have an inkling that the Sheikh is somehow involved.
Why do you have an inkling that the Sheikh is involved if this purchase is not part of his 60-odd businesses run by ADBD? Why would the Chairman and CEO of ADBD purchase a championship football club without there being any involvement from ADBD? The only way this purchase makes sense is if it's part of the Sheikh's bandolier of businesses - otherwise it's financial suicide for Nimer and Heller.
I’m certainly not suggesting for one minute that the Sheikh is involved but if he were then letting the footballing world would increase the price of every single player Charlton wanted to purchase. Just saying.
Ale and red wine should be slightly chilled before drinking, unless it's stored in a cool place. I can't think of anything worse than drinking room temperature ale and wine
Can’t think of much worse than drinking ale and red wine together. Chilling it first to take the flavour away might be the only way to make it palatable.
Ale and red wine should be slightly chilled before drinking, unless it's stored in a cool place. I can't think of anything worse than drinking room temperature ale and wine
Can’t think of much worse than drinking ale and red wine together. Chilling it first to take the flavour away might be the only way to make it palatable.
I like my red wine and I like my ale but I also can think of many things worse than drinking them at room temperature. Continually checking this thread comes to mind for one...
I really can’t believe that Sheikh Saeed Bin Tahnoun Bin Mohammed Al Nahyan isn’t involved. From my (albeit limited) understanding, Nimer is purchasing the club on behalf of ADBD, which is bankrolled by the Sheikh. If this was a side business for Nimer, I can’t see why they would mention ADBD in the club statement, or why the CEO of ADBD (Jonathan Heller) would be a director at the club.
Nimer doesn’t seem stupid enough to waste a significant portion of his own wealth on a second-tier football club on the other side of the planet. In my opinion, the Sheikh is directly involved in this deal and the majority of the investment will be coming from ADBD, which is essentially the Sheikh’s bank account.
No, Nimer is not purchasing the club on behalf of ADBD - if he were then Sheikh Saeed would be the owner of ESI (the Sheik owns ADBD), and we know that Nimer is the majority shareholder of ESI.
ADBD was mentioned on the basis of who these people are, not who they represent.
That said, I still have an inkling that the Sheikh is somehow involved.
Why do you have an inkling that the Sheikh is involved if this purchase is not part of his 60-odd businesses run by ADBD? Why would the Chairman and CEO of ADBD purchase a championship football club without there being any involvement from ADBD? The only way this purchase makes sense is if it's part of the Sheikh's bandolier of businesses - otherwise it's financial suicide for Nimer and Heller.
Aren’t the EFL checking to see if he’s involved? That’s where the query is isn’t it? if I’m not mistaken then the sheikh is the link to the Mansours at city.
And therein lies the problem. How does any prospective owner prove a negative? EFL - Have you got the funds? A - Yes, here's my bank statement. EFL - Do you have any financial links to any other owners of other English football clubs? A - No. EFL - Can you prove that? A - Err, well, no. EFL - Sorry we can't let you in, our investigators have found that you once bought a pair of trainers from one of Mr Ashley's shops - you clearly have a financial relationship with him.
We are desperately keen for the sale of our
club to be concluded. Meanwhile, some of many examples of why a rigorous fit-and-proper-person
test is needed:
Mark Guterman and Alex Hamilton bought
Wrexham in 2002. They manoeuvred themselves into a position where they were
able to order the football club to quit the Racecourse Ground in 2004 so that
the land could be used for a property development. The development ran into
problems, one consequence of which was the club’s going into administration.
The administrators took Guterman and Hamilton to court for acting in their own
interests rather than those of the club.
Stephen Vaughan owned Barrow and Chester
City, buying a majority share in the latter club in 2001. In 2009 he was
disqualified from acting as a director following his involvement in a VAT
fraud, and acquired the dubious honour of being the first person to fail the
(then FA’s) fit-and-proper-person test.
Stephen Hinchcliffe was majority
shareholder of Hull City at the start of the 2000s. In 2001 he was sentenced to
five years for corruption and bribery, and the football club went into
administration.
Owen Oyston became owner of Blackpool in
1988. He was found guilty of rape in 1996. In 2017 he and his son, Karl, were
found to have operated an “illegitimate stripping” of Blackpool FC.
In 2009, Derby County’s CEO/finance
director and its previous director of football were imprisoned for defrauding
the club of nearly half a million pounds.
(Source: The Game of our Lives, David Goldblatt, Penguin. The book includes
many more examples of unfit or improper persons who have been owners or
directors of football clubs.)
But how many of them were unfit or improper when they purchased the teams?
Vaughn and Chester looks worst. The others are all bad in hindsight but I doubt there was anything to prevent them. What they do show is that additional regulations are needed covering the running of the club to prevent asset stripping.
Tahnoon Nimer’s just put up a Christmas message on his Instagram “story” and it doesn’t mention Charlton. Mass panic to ensue?
He didn’t but another gentleman responded to the post mentioning CAFC. He didn’t strike me as a regular fan who just added HE after the takeover announcement either.
" My husband and I, have some good news to announce to our subjects. After 6 years of Roland Duchatelet's tenure, we are glad to announce that our favourite association footie club, Bobby Charlton Athletic are now in the ownership of East Street Investments whom have agreed to not only to purchase this wonderful old Sarf London soccer club but also the procurement of 49% of Buckingham Palace, as Andrew my ex favourite son will be going on a road trip to sample the myriad of streets in the capital. One has given air miles Andy a sleeping bag and a A To Z book. This has been another Annus horribilis for one because of Phillip thinking all our subjects have to give way to him on my Highways. Fortunately we are insured with Churchill's, and we all know Churchill is good in a crisis. Harry and Megan, my Ginger grandson, has disappeared to Canada for 6 weeks with his actress wife and new born just because he and his bro, Wilhelm, don't see eye to eye, plus Harry who has ADHD, would get bored when I watch on a loop the play off final which has a delightful climax when Patrick Bauer, a relation of one, stabbed home the winning goal and the red army goes Ape. Charles, who's face is redder than that old Soccer manager Fergie, oh our I detest that name, has been waiting 66 years to become King, well Charles, Patients is a virtue. I would like to mention the common wealth of ESI: This should build the foundation for a successful future for CAFC. May 2020 be Annus Mirabilis for you all. COYR."
" My husband and I, have some good news to announce to our subjects. After 6 years of Roland Duchatelet's tenure, we are glad to announce that our favourite association footie club, Bobby Charlton Athletic are now in the ownership of East Street Investments whom have agreed to not only to purchase this wonderful old Sarf London soccer club but also the procurement of 49% of Buckingham Palace, as Andrew my ex favourite son will be going on a road trip to sample the myriad of streets in the capital. One has given air miles Andy a sleeping bag and a A To Z book. This has been another Annus horribilis for one because of Phillip thinking all our subjects have to give way to him on my Highways. Fortunately we are insured with Churchill's, and we all know Churchill is good in a crisis. Harry and Megan, my Ginger grandson, has disappeared to Canada for 6 weeks with his actress wife and new born just because he and his bro, Wilhelm, don't see eye to eye, plus Harry who has ADHD, would get bored when I watch on a loop the play off final which has a delightful climax when Patrick Bauer, a relation of one, stabbed home the winning goal and the red army goes Ape. Charles, who's face is redder than that old Soccer manager Fergie, oh our I detest that name, has been waiting 66 years to become King, well Charles, Patients is a virtue. I would like to mention the common wealth of ESI: This should build the foundation for a successful future for CAFC. May 2020 be Annus Mirabilis for you all. COYR.
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Nimer doesn’t seem stupid enough to waste a significant portion of his own wealth on a second-tier football club on the other side of the planet. In my opinion, the Sheikh is directly involved in this deal and the majority of the investment will be coming from ADBD, which is essentially the Sheikh’s bank account.
ADBD was mentioned on the basis of who these people are, not who they represent.
That said, I still have an inkling that the Sheikh is somehow involved.
Just had a nasty thought that I have been saving it for the takeover for so long it may be out of date! I think I will move it to the conservatory.
if I’m not mistaken then the sheikh is the link to the Mansours at city.
We are desperately keen for the sale of our club to be concluded. Meanwhile, some of many examples of why a rigorous fit-and-proper-person test is needed:
Mark Guterman and Alex Hamilton bought Wrexham in 2002. They manoeuvred themselves into a position where they were able to order the football club to quit the Racecourse Ground in 2004 so that the land could be used for a property development. The development ran into problems, one consequence of which was the club’s going into administration. The administrators took Guterman and Hamilton to court for acting in their own interests rather than those of the club.
Stephen Vaughan owned Barrow and Chester City, buying a majority share in the latter club in 2001. In 2009 he was disqualified from acting as a director following his involvement in a VAT fraud, and acquired the dubious honour of being the first person to fail the (then FA’s) fit-and-proper-person test.
Stephen Hinchcliffe was majority shareholder of Hull City at the start of the 2000s. In 2001 he was sentenced to five years for corruption and bribery, and the football club went into administration.
Owen Oyston became owner of Blackpool in 1988. He was found guilty of rape in 1996. In 2017 he and his son, Karl, were found to have operated an “illegitimate stripping” of Blackpool FC.
In 2009, Derby County’s CEO/finance director and its previous director of football were imprisoned for defrauding the club of nearly half a million pounds.
(Source: The Game of our Lives, David Goldblatt, Penguin. The book includes many more examples of unfit or improper persons who have been owners or directors of football clubs.)
Peace, love and understanding.
Merry Christmas
Vaughn and Chester looks worst. The others are all bad in hindsight but I doubt there was anything to prevent them. What they do show is that additional regulations are needed covering the running of the club to prevent asset stripping.
" My husband and I, have some good news to announce to our subjects. After 6 years of Roland Duchatelet's tenure, we are glad to announce that our favourite association footie club, Bobby Charlton Athletic are now in the ownership of East Street Investments whom have agreed to not only to purchase this wonderful old Sarf London soccer club but also the procurement of 49% of Buckingham Palace, as Andrew my ex favourite son will be going on a road trip to sample the myriad of streets in the capital.
One has given air miles Andy a sleeping bag and a A To Z book.
This has been another Annus horribilis for one because of Phillip thinking all our subjects have to give way to him on my Highways. Fortunately we are insured with Churchill's, and we all know Churchill is good in a crisis.
Harry and Megan, my Ginger grandson, has disappeared to Canada for 6 weeks with his actress wife and new born just because he and his bro, Wilhelm, don't see eye to eye, plus Harry who has ADHD, would get bored when I watch on a loop the play off final which has a delightful climax when Patrick Bauer, a relation of one, stabbed home the winning goal and the red army goes Ape.
Charles, who's face is redder than that old Soccer manager Fergie, oh our I detest that name, has been waiting 66 years to become King, well Charles, Patients is a virtue.
I would like to mention the common wealth of ESI: This should build the foundation for a successful future for CAFC.
May 2020 be Annus Mirabilis for you all.
COYR."