In Lee Bowyer and his staff, the club has a management team everyone can get behind, they did a brilliant job to get Charlton promoted last season and they created a bond between the team and the fans.
Everyone? Not so. Some of us continue to look on from a distance, dismayed. Whilst holding LB, JJ and SG in high esteem - I again offer them sincere best wishes - we choose to remain absent. As another season commences under Meddler's tenure, we reject McCharlton and look forward to a new chapter for the club under enlightened stewardship.
McCharlton? With chips? On its own? May as well just have a McCharlton meal
After Wembley and with the news of a takeover imminent I was all ready to finally renew our three season tickets and get back to going with my son and dad.
A few weeks later and that thought has long since disappeared.
And then we get this bullshit. It makes me so fucking angry that this deluded tosspot continues to blame anyone and everyone else for his own shortcomings and failings.
Was just perusing the trust website and came across this article- a joint statement about ownership with Blackburn supporters trust.
It's well written of course but stops some way short of what's needed I think. ..." the time has come to move on and to hand the club over to someone who will put not only their money but also their heart and soul into the club."...
That was late 2017. I think an updated vision statement would be worthwhile, one that reflects an effective and workable ownership structure that protects the club and takes it out of reach of madcap business men, (or some unknown incoming consortium).
Wimbledon and Swansea have gone down member ownership routes I believe. Barcelona are known for it. German clubs have ownership protections that could maybe work here. I would like to think we could get on the front foot with this rather than the 'waiting for someone' route that has got us nowhere so far.
Was just perusing the trust website and came across this article- a joint statement about ownership with Blackburn supporters trust.
It's well written of course but stops some way short of what's needed I think. ..." the time has come to move on and to hand the club over to someone who will put not only their money but also their heart and soul into the club."...
That was late 2017. I think an updated vision statement would be worthwhile, one that reflects an effective and workable ownership structure that protects the club and takes it out of reach of madcap business men, (or some unknown incoming consortium).
Wimbledon and Swansea have gone down member ownership routes I believe. Barcelona are known for it. German clubs have ownership protections that could maybe work here. I would like to think we could get on the front foot with this rather than the 'waiting for someone' route that has got us nowhere so far.
It has been talked about before. Personaly i would up for it and would like nothing better. But i cant see it happening with this owner, he hates us is my opinion.
I wish one of the parties that have walked away (Dalman preferably as he knows more about how an English club is run) would go on the record & tell us what RD is after. Not just sale price, but add-ons like % of future player sales etc. Surely they still wouldnt be under a NDA.
The statement starts off reasonably ok (like his interview yrsterday) until he moans how he cant sell because no-one will buy a loss making club. Does himself no favours at all.
We wont be sold this season. My worry now is that he will baton down the hatches & wont sanction any new players coming in at all. Will try to minimise the losses further & even sell someone like Taylor or Dijikstel.
NDA can still be effective for some time after negotiation have ceased. Years I believe.
Was just perusing the trust website and came across this article- a joint statement about ownership with Blackburn supporters trust.
It's well written of course but stops some way short of what's needed I think. ..." the time has come to move on and to hand the club over to someone who will put not only their money but also their heart and soul into the club."...
That was late 2017. I think an updated vision statement would be worthwhile, one that reflects an effective and workable ownership structure that protects the club and takes it out of reach of madcap business men, (or some unknown incoming consortium).
Wimbledon and Swansea have gone down member ownership routes I believe. Barcelona are known for it. German clubs have ownership protections that could maybe work here. I would like to think we could get on the front foot with this rather than the 'waiting for someone' route that has got us nowhere so far.
It has been talked about before. Personaly i would up for it and would like nothing better. But i cant see it happening with this owner, he hates us is my opinion.
That's what I'm querying essentially @orpingtonRED.. what's the roadmap as in what needs to happen, regardless of the current owner's limited vision and personality traits, to get to a more secure environment for the future? It's been done elsewhere, though not very widespread in English football so far.
Was just perusing the trust website and came across this article- a joint statement about ownership with Blackburn supporters trust.
It's well written of course but stops some way short of what's needed I think. ..." the time has come to move on and to hand the club over to someone who will put not only their money but also their heart and soul into the club."...
That was late 2017. I think an updated vision statement would be worthwhile, one that reflects an effective and workable ownership structure that protects the club and takes it out of reach of madcap business men, (or some unknown incoming consortium).
Wimbledon and Swansea have gone down member ownership routes I believe. Barcelona are known for it. German clubs have ownership protections that could maybe work here. I would like to think we could get on the front foot with this rather than the 'waiting for someone' route that has got us nowhere so far.
It has been talked about before. Personaly i would up for it and would like nothing better. But i cant see it happening with this owner, he hates us is my opinion.
That's what I'm querying essentially @orpingtonRED.. what's the roadmap as in what needs to happen, regardless of the current owner's limited vision and personality traits, to get to a more secure environment for the future? It's been done elsewhere, though not very widespread in English football so far.
I am not an expert sorry. But like you say other teams have done it. I know in Germany they have many fan ownership teams. Maybe somebody on here can reach out to our German Addicks and find out how its its done. If possible
Yesterday felt pretty depressing but I’ve been convinced for s while now that he ain’t selling. I wonder whether Bowyer and Gallen laying the stark financial realities on the line to him prompted his appearance on talksport - I’m not sure how he can claim to be a socialist yet know that 10,000 fans are going to suffer a miserable season if he doesn’t release a small proportion of his vast wealth in order to give us half a chance next season - a socialist when it suits.
Glossing over the bit about him claiming to be a socialist (where on earth does that come from?) were you convinced that he isn't selling when "someone at the club" told you a few days ago that the Muir was in negotiation with the ex-directors? Or did you only become convinced when that turned out not to be true?
I said I didn't believe it and that view was reinforced by airmans post of bob whitehands comments - do keep up
So, at the time the source at the club time you Muir was in discussions with the ex directors you didn't bekieve him/her, but you promulgated the rumour anyway?
What did your source day when you told him/her a few minutes later when their story was shown to be a lie?
Did he apologise?
Why don’t you belt up and read what I said - also - what my source said came via a family member and always does
I'm just trying to help out here. If I understand right, the source at the club told a family member of his who told you. So either the source at the club lied and the family member passed it on to you in good faith (in which case, no wonder you're so cross) OR the source at the club was telling the truth and the family member told you something different (but, that can't be the case; because why would the source at the club tell his family member that Muir wasn't talking to the ex directors).
This is really helpful, because, setting it out in black and white makes it a lot clearer and easier to understand. The source at the club is a liar, but his family member told you what they believe to be the truth, which you then promulgated on here and which we were all able to discover wasn't the truth almost immediately. That must be annoying for you (because, well, you know, it makes you look a bit daft), but it must be mortifying for the family member to have lied to them.
Good. I am glad we got to the bottom of it. I appreciate you clarifying. And I can now understand (and I should have seen this much sooner) why you're reluctant to reveal the name of your source.
And, while I think about it, you should be congratulated for casting doubt on it from the get-go.
Thanks.
strewth you are a proper nause!!!!!!! the family member is a member of my family, i'm not angry and i certainly don't need your help to work anything out - i ran it by nla on here who didn't answer and unless muir has talked to any ex directors other than bob whitehand, it would seem to be incorrect information - who started the incorrect information is also not entirely clear but i know who told my family member - on weighing up all the information i have been told from the club or on here i came to the conclusion that all the takeover talk is a load of bollox - i stated that conclusion a month ago on here and you got your knickers in a twist then - the ongoing aussie nonsense has been rumbled as just that and we are stuck with rd for the forseeable but if you and others want to keep going round in circles on here, crack on. If it turns to shit in a month or so's time, i'll be up for any protests that are planned in belgium - we should not have the lowest budget in the championship.
Interesting that Roland complains about “losses in The Championship” when he might well have the lowest operational loss of his ownership reign in 2019-20.
Furthermore, given we well might have a break-even year overall and a 3-year FFP loss among the lowest in the division, plus its London location, CAFC should be one of the MOST sellable clubs right now.
The real reason he can’t sell is his unreasonable price, his threats to keep the stadium, his insistence on receiving sell on fees and to top it all off, his public utterances that only a fool would buy his own club at the current price.
If RD has increased his asking price by £7m following promotion, I'd imagine NDAs are null and void. Added to his statements about buyers having difficulty raising cash, another get out.
Will there be a CARD response? I think this is pretty much confirmation that all takeovers are off for the foreseeable future.
It was continued protests that pushed him towards the decision to put the club on the market but since that was announced, I think a lot of fans sat back and waited for it to happen expecting it would only take a few months, tops. 18 months later and we are still here.
Roland has had it too easy over that period and it’s time to start turning up the heat once again, IMO.
So now that’s been decided, now there’s no more uncertainty over ownership, hand Bowyer some fecking money to buy players, don’t sell AD from under him and give the football people at the club a fighting chance of continuing last season’s miracle-work by keeping us in this league.
You can’t have it both ways, claiming new owners may not want to be saddled with players and contracts they didn’t sanction. You’re the owner now, it’s confirmed. Get on with it!
Right. Definitely not being sold until someone pays his ridiculous price aka never.
Thread needs closing now so we can stop arguing over the most pathetic things that none of us know feck all about.
More to the point, we're only 55 pages from @happyvalley running out of historical facts to post, so they may have to resort to
2020 Roland still hasn't sold the club
2021 Roland still hasn't sold the club
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2046 Roland celebrates his hundredth birthday. He still hasn't sold the club
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2063 Roland becomes the oldest person alive. He still hasn't sold the club
2064 Roland finally dies at the age of 117, at which point it is discovered that he hasn't left a valid will, and a legal battle over his estate begins. The club cannot be sold until this is concluded.
And so on...
Personally I think we should close the thread on page 1969 ("Man lands on the moon. An amazingly complex task, but still apparently more feasible than getting a stubborn Belgian to see sense) or 1984, and just hope that's not an omen.
Will there be a CARD response? I think this is pretty much confirmation that all takeovers are off for the foreseeable future.
It was continued protests that pushed him towards the decision to put the club on the market but since that was announced, I think a lot of fans sat back and waited for it to happen expecting it would only take a few months, tops. 18 months later and we are still here.
Roland has had it too easy over that period and it’s time to start turning up the heat once again, IMO.
Will there be a CARD response? I think this is pretty much confirmation that all takeovers are off for the foreseeable future.
It was continued protests that pushed him towards the decision to put the club on the market but since that was announced, I think a lot of fans sat back and waited for it to happen expecting it would only take a few months, tops. 18 months later and we are still here.
Roland has had it too easy over that period and it’s time to start turning up the heat once again, IMO.
I agree that there has to be some form of response that counters the inconsistencies in RD’s latest rant which receives some publicity in the press. I am also happy to volunteer CAST for this task but based on their previous good work I am sure they are already in the process of developing a response.
If RD has increased his asking price by £7m following promotion, I'd imagine NDAs are null and void. Added to his statements about buyers having difficulty raising cash, another get out.
Roland said a while back on TalkSport that he would give the club away if the training ground and The Valley were paid for. Funny how the value of both have gone up since.
Will there be a CARD response? I think this is pretty much confirmation that all takeovers are off for the foreseeable future.
It was continued protests that pushed him towards the decision to put the club on the market but since that was announced, I think a lot of fans sat back and waited for it to happen expecting it would only take a few months, tops. 18 months later and we are still here.
Roland has had it too easy over that period and it’s time to start turning up the heat once again, IMO.
I would think a short, sharp bullet point response including some of the (napa scale) assumptions on what card believes old yellow tooth actually wants for a club destined for relegation again would suffice here...
If RD has increased his asking price by £7m following promotion, I'd imagine NDAs are null and void. Added to his statements about buyers having difficulty raising cash, another get out.
You’d think so. But you’d be wrong. Of course you could try taking it to court.
I believe that protests in Belgium do bother him and do embarrass him. Will more protests there make him sell quicker? Maybe, maybe not. But I tell you something, they will sure as hell make me feel better.
I think we can all agree with this. But our dilemma is not what will make Large Addick feel better. (not meaning to be rude etc).
Not sure what the dilemma is. If we do something, it may or may not work and if we don't do anything it won't have any affect of him for certain.
Right. Definitely not being sold until someone pays his ridiculous price aka never.
Thread needs closing now so we can stop arguing over the most pathetic things that none of us know feck all about.
More to the point, we're only 55 pages from @happyvalley running out of historical facts to post, so they may have to resort to
2020 Roland still hasn't sold the club
2021 Roland still hasn't sold the club
.
.
.
2046 Roland celebrates his hundredth birthday. He still hasn't sold the club
.
.
.
2063 Roland becomes the oldest person alive. He still hasn't sold the club
2064 Roland finally dies at the age of 117, at which point it is discovered that he hasn't left a valid will, and a legal battle over his estate begins. The club cannot be sold until this is concluded.
And so on...
Personally I think we should close the thread on page 1969 ("Man lands on the moon. An amazingly complex task, but still apparently more feasible than getting a stubborn Belgian to see sense) or 1984, and just hope that's not an omen.
Happy for it to close in 1969. All the best things happened that year!
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May as well just have a McCharlton meal
A few weeks later and that thought has long since disappeared.
And then we get this bullshit. It makes me so fucking angry that this deluded tosspot continues to blame anyone and everyone else for his own shortcomings and failings.
And all the while we continue to suffer.
Was just perusing the trust website and came across this article- a joint statement about ownership with Blackburn supporters trust.
It's well written of course but stops some way short of what's needed I think.
..." the time has come to move on and to hand the club over to someone who will put not only their money but also their heart and soul into the club."...
That was late 2017. I think an updated vision statement would be worthwhile, one that reflects an effective and workable ownership structure that protects the club and takes it out of reach of madcap business men, (or some unknown incoming consortium).
Wimbledon and Swansea have gone down member ownership routes I believe. Barcelona are known for it. German clubs have ownership protections that could maybe work here. I would like to think we could get on the front foot with this rather than the 'waiting for someone' route that has got us nowhere so far.
Albanians in Bromley will do it for much less.
Allegedly
It was continued protests that pushed him towards the decision to put the club on the market but since that was announced, I think a lot of fans sat back and waited for it to happen expecting it would only take a few months, tops. 18 months later and we are still here.
Roland has had it too easy over that period and it’s time to start turning up the heat once again, IMO.
So now that’s been decided, now there’s no more uncertainty over ownership, hand Bowyer some fecking money to buy players, don’t sell AD from under him and give the football people at the club a fighting chance of continuing last season’s miracle-work by keeping us in this league.
You can’t have it both ways, claiming new owners may not want to be saddled with players and contracts they didn’t sanction. You’re the owner now, it’s confirmed. Get on with it!
Ordered a hitman
from Scunthorpe comes Lee Novak
he missed from close range
Josh Parker was picked
along with Josh Magennis
they shot each other
Simon Church tried hard
He had Roland in his sight
the bullet fell short
One person to ask
the golden girl Villanelle
Huh, heard for last time
Bullet point present
by Fanny Fanackapan
Roland falls over
Thank you for the entry to this year's Haiku competition, you have made the short list to recite at the Queen's garden party in September.
You’d think so. But you’d be wrong. Of course you could try taking it to court.
All the best things happened that year!
Well I never knew that.