As its been confirmed by RD that he cant sell at the moment (if ever) would it be a good idea to close this thread until there are signsthat things are changing? It'll stop all the arguments
Think about happyvalley, all the work he has put in
Bollox Happy Valley is the reason Roland ain't selling. He enjoys his posts so much that He won't sell.
He really thinks that people interested in buying League One and Championship football clubs enter the process not knowing the ongoing costs involved. Duchatelet really does have a screw loose.
Quote apart from anything else, does nobody ever explain to him how unprofessional and weird it is to describe himself in the third person, and not to give a name at any point? At least Trump uses his own name when he does it.
He says he will continue to pay the staff and the bills. I have the horrible thought that the delusional one may not sanction any more arrivals, so that the wage bill today, will be the wage bill for the rest of the season.
The statement is as bland as we are ever likely to read from Duchatelet.
It tells us little new and features only a few excuses, this time it is the EFL that is to blame.
It appears to be damage limitation after another poor performance on Talksport and a justification for not holding the agreed pre-season fans forum meeting.
I seriously think that @happyvalley's historical factoids need to be reviewed throughout the whole thread as the farthing ceased to be legal tender on December 31st, 1960.
If @AFKABartram spent more time moderating rather than fawning over our owner and slagging off respected posters (and @PragueAddick), then this kind of fake news would be shut down more frequently.
The statement is as bland as we are ever likely to read from Duchatelet.
It tells us little new and features only a few excuses, this time it is the EFL that is to blame.
It appears to be damage limitation after another poor performance on Talksport and a justification for not holding the agreed pre-season fans forum meeting.
That makes as much sense as a Douchbag statement.
Which explains why you don’t want this thread closed.
You’re keeping it alive because you want to divide & conquer, don’t you Roland.
Please close this thread... I’m not strong enough to avoid it, I see x number of new updates and I have to open it up... please for all of us weak individuals - CLOSE THE THREAD...
Yesterday felt pretty depressing but I’ve been convinced for s while now that he ain’t selling. I wonder whether Bowyer and Gallen laying the stark financial realities on the line to him prompted his appearance on talksport - I’m not sure how he can claim to be a socialist yet know that 10,000 fans are going to suffer a miserable season if he doesn’t release a small proportion of his vast wealth in order to give us half a chance next season - a socialist when it suits.
Glossing over the bit about him claiming to be a socialist (where on earth does that come from?) were you convinced that he isn't selling when "someone at the club" told you a few days ago that the Muir was in negotiation with the ex-directors? Or did you only become convinced when that turned out not to be true?
I said I didn't believe it and that view was reinforced by airmans post of bob whitehands comments - do keep up
So, at the time the source at the club time you Muir was in discussions with the ex directors you didn't bekieve him/her, but you promulgated the rumour anyway?
What did your source day when you told him/her a few minutes later when their story was shown to be a lie?
Did he apologise?
Why don’t you belt up and read what I said - also - what my source said came via a family member and always does
I'm just trying to help out here. If I understand right, the source at the club told a family member of his who told you. So either the source at the club lied and the family member passed it on to you in good faith (in which case, no wonder you're so cross) OR the source at the club was telling the truth and the family member told you something different (but, that can't be the case; because why would the source at the club tell his family member that Muir wasn't talking to the ex directors).
This is really helpful, because, setting it out in black and white makes it a lot clearer and easier to understand. The source at the club is a liar, but his family member told you what they believe to be the truth, which you then promulgated on here and which we were all able to discover wasn't the truth almost immediately. That must be annoying for you (because, well, you know, it makes you look a bit daft), but it must be mortifying for the family member to have lied to them.
Good. I am glad we got to the bottom of it. I appreciate you clarifying. And I can now understand (and I should have seen this much sooner) why you're reluctant to reveal the name of your source.
And, while I think about it, you should be congratulated for casting doubt on it from the get-go.
"Worryingly, no one can categorically say either that everytime Charlton fans annoy him in some way it doesn't make him more determined in his own mind to ensure he doesn't concede on his stance, can they?"
And by the same token no one can say it doesn't but even you accept the fan actions "annoy" him.
Even that is enough justification IMHO.
As I said way, way back even before black and white scarves and before you were a member of the CARD organising group "we have no knock out punch".
We can't do any one, single thing to remove him instantly so we have to keep jabbing away.
The protests here and in Belgium DID annoy him and DID get a response and he decided to sell. That decision wasn't only about the protests but it is reasonable and evidenced to say it was a factor. We can never know for sure how much of a factor.
Ultimately, the lack of a sale is down to the same person who caused all the mess we are in now and no one else and that is Roland Duchatelet.
Only the irrational Duchatelet can authorise a deal, all we can do is counter his lies and keep on making his time as a "owner" as uncomfortable as possible.
So we don't know whether whether further action will lead to him being more likely or less likely to sell. But we can accept that fan actions annoy him. So that is enough justification, just to annoy him, even though it may mean he owns us for even longer ?
I think like AFKA I am trying to take a considered view, based on facts. It is an undeniable fact that every action so far has not realistically brought us closer to a sale. Whether further action can hasten his departure is debatable, because no one knows. If anyone can come up with a strategy that has a chance of hastening his departure, then I'm ready to listen and potentially support.
I repeat, to those that have been unable to understand what AFKA said, he did not say the protests have had no value. He said they have not made RD sell up and if James Seed is correct, RD has even raised the price by £7M. AFKA is factually correct (without nitpicking).
The issue for all of us, is there anything we can do to hasten the sale ? All of the discussion re RD said, he said, she said is a load of nonsense achieving nothing.
@Airman Brown quick question if I may. The historic debts you suggest are related to foreign transfers, do you mean or understand they are "historic" as I pre Roland?
It basically says he has given Lee a one year contract. Over to him.
The next move is for fans to exploit the fact that the club has no CEO or Head of Finance. I don't know if EFL rules say there has to be a chief executive or not, but there are presumably things that are even above Cojones paygrade (it goes without saying everything is beyond his competence) so the attack should probably start there if there is a way to do it, and entree. No I don't mean extras for the vol au vent gobblers. Is there a way to tie the club up in a major legal farrango, one that would require a response from a chief executive?
"Worryingly, no one can categorically say either that everytime Charlton fans annoy him in some way it doesn't make him more determined in his own mind to ensure he doesn't concede on his stance, can they?"
And by the same token no one can say it doesn't but even you accept the fan actions "annoy" him.
Even that is enough justification IMHO.
As I said way, way back even before black and white scarves and before you were a member of the CARD organising group "we have no knock out punch".
We can't do any one, single thing to remove him instantly so we have to keep jabbing away.
The protests here and in Belgium DID annoy him and DID get a response and he decided to sell. That decision wasn't only about the protests but it is reasonable and evidenced to say it was a factor. We can never know for sure how much of a factor.
Ultimately, the lack of a sale is down to the same person who caused all the mess we are in now and no one else and that is Roland Duchatelet.
Only the irrational Duchatelet can authorise a deal, all we can do is counter his lies and keep on making his time as a "owner" as uncomfortable as possible.
So we don't know whether whether further action will lead to him being more likely or less likely to sell. But we can accept that fan actions annoy him. So that is enough justification, just to annoy him, even though it may mean he owns us for even longer ?
I think like AFKA I am trying to take a considered view, based on facts. It is an undeniable fact that every action so far has not realistically brought us closer to a sale. Whether further action can hasten his departure is debatable, because no one knows. If anyone can come up with a strategy that has a chance of hastening his departure, then I'm ready to listen and potentially support.
Embarrassing him can be the only way surely, hurting his ego to the point where everyone in St Truiden is laughing at him.
A protest march along with a 6 metre Roland blimp on the way to his Melexis office like we saw with Trump and Khan and billboards of him looking like an ancient old man BR7 Addick did would both make the news and embarrass him.
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Definitely not being sold until someone pays his ridiculous price aka never.
Thread needs closing now so we can stop arguing over the most pathetic things that none of us know feck all about.
Happy Valley is the reason Roland ain't selling.
He enjoys his posts so much that He won't sell.
At least it's a bit better then a Roland statement.
Such a pointless waste of time.
We are not his 2%.
We are his 100% that he rants and moans about.
Such random arguements....where did the American sport comparison come from?
The bloke is just such a one dimensional selfish bastard.
The statement is as bland as we are ever likely to read from Duchatelet.
It tells us little new and features only a few excuses, this time it is the EFL that is to blame.
It appears to be damage limitation after another poor performance on Talksport and a justification for not holding the agreed pre-season fans forum meeting.
If @AFKABartram spent more time moderating rather than fawning over our owner and slagging off respected posters (and @PragueAddick), then this kind of fake news would be shut down more frequently.
Which explains why you don’t want this thread closed.
You’re keeping it alive because you want to divide & conquer, don’t you Roland.
This is really helpful, because, setting it out in black and white makes it a lot clearer and easier to understand. The source at the club is a liar, but his family member told you what they believe to be the truth, which you then promulgated on here and which we were all able to discover wasn't the truth almost immediately. That must be annoying for you (because, well, you know, it makes you look a bit daft), but it must be mortifying for the family member to have lied to them.
Good. I am glad we got to the bottom of it. I appreciate you clarifying. And I can now understand (and I should have seen this much sooner) why you're reluctant to reveal the name of your source.
And, while I think about it, you should be congratulated for casting doubt on it from the get-go.
Thanks.
And who can blame them. I'm sure he'll crack........ eventually!
But we can accept that fan actions annoy him.
So that is enough justification, just to annoy him, even though it may mean he owns us for even longer ?
I think like AFKA I am trying to take a considered view, based on facts.
It is an undeniable fact that every action so far has not realistically brought us closer to a sale.
Whether further action can hasten his departure is debatable, because no one knows.
If anyone can come up with a strategy that has a chance of hastening his departure, then I'm ready to listen and potentially support.
I repeat, to those that have been unable to understand what AFKA said, he did not say the protests have had no value.
He said they have not made RD sell up and if James Seed is correct, RD has even raised the price by £7M.
AFKA is factually correct (without nitpicking).
The issue for all of us, is there anything we can do to hasten the sale ?
All of the discussion re RD said, he said, she said is a load of nonsense achieving nothing.
I mean, he actually wrote these words and had them published, in public, so that anyone can see them.
The next move is for fans to exploit the fact that the club has no CEO or Head of Finance.
I don't know if EFL rules say there has to be a chief executive or not, but there are presumably things that are even above Cojones paygrade (it goes without saying everything is beyond his competence) so the attack should probably start there if there is a way to do it, and entree.
No I don't mean extras for the vol au vent gobblers.
Is there a way to tie the club up in a major legal farrango, one that would require a response from a chief executive?
A protest march along with a 6 metre Roland blimp on the way to his Melexis office like we saw with Trump and Khan and billboards of him looking like an ancient old man BR7 Addick did would both make the news and embarrass him.