Are these fans forums really worth carrying on with? He quite literally regurgitates what he said at the previous meeting each time.
No doubt if we were at the bottom end of the table people would be boycotting and having a say again on matchdays.
In fairness it seems like the info we get does vary from meeting to meeting. There's certainly stuff there that i don't remember hearing before.
Also they don't have to tell us anything, LvT doesn't need to turn up to these meetings so at least we're getting some info, even if we can probably take a lot of it with a pinch of salt.
If we didn't have them, some fans would moan we don't get told anything. When we do have them some fans say they're not worth it.
When Roland says it's not the asking price that's a problem it's the day to day running costs he is talking shite.
Surely the two things go hand in hand. If you are selling a business which is making millions of pounds profit every year you will sell it for a very high price. Alternatively if you are selling a business which is losing millions of pounds every year you have to reduce the asking price conciderably.
For me the asking price is still the main problem the rest is all smoke and mirrors.
I agree - but it may be what the Aussies are telling him as a price has seemingly been agreed. Clearly his way of solving it would be to lower the price. How much a club costs to run surely needs to be reflected in the price.
I think a lot of fans have already decided what the issues are and because the hard information coming out of this meeting, from White and elsewhere is limited and opaque they are engaging in confirmation bias.
If you think it's Ashley then the info from last night points to it being Ashley.
If you think it was leaked to White to hurry up the Brits then the info points to that.
Same for most of the other theories.
We don't have enough pieces of the puzzle to be able to work out what the picture is.
Many of the theories, old and new, are plausible but that doesn't make them true.
But neither can they be proved false. Hence we go over the same ground.
I think a lot of fans have already decided what the issues are and because the hard information coming out of this meeting, from White and elsewhere is limited and opaque they are engaging in confirmation bias.
If you think it's Ashley then the info from last night points to it being Ashley.
If you think it was leaked to White to hurry up the Brits then the info points to that.
Same for most of the other theories.
We don't have enough pieces of the puzzle to be able to work out what the picture is.
Many of the theories, old and new, are plausible but that doesn't make them true.
But neither can they be proved false. Hence we go over the same ground.
At least it should end the theory that Rick and Jim worked together to spread fake rumours to sell more copies of VOTV and get more listeners.
New info, I'm hearing that some Mexicans are in the mix
Could it be the Enchilada Consortium?
It is true, Speedy Gonzales is buying us, he will get the deal done very quickly. First thing he will do is drop the Red Red Robin and we willcome out to the Mexican Hat Dance
I think a lot of fans have already decided what the issues are and because the hard information coming out of this meeting, from White and elsewhere is limited and opaque they are engaging in confirmation bias.
If you think it's Ashley then the info from last night points to it being Ashley.
If you think it was leaked to White to hurry up the Brits then the info points to that.
Same for most of the other theories.
We don't have enough pieces of the puzzle to be able to work out what the picture is.
I hope it’s going to be a windmill. That way you don’t just need to start with the straight parts at the edges you see as there are usually also 4 very straight sails as well...
I’ve said all along that i still think we are waiting for Ashley to sell NUFC!
That’s my guess as well - I’m increasingly leaning towards the Aussies being a fabrication by RD
Oh lord.
For what it’s worth I think the Yankee dollars are on their way, the new bits of associated paperwork will get done, and it’ll be done and dusted soonish.
But don’t quote me on that. I hope that puts me back on the scapegoats list?
I’ve said all along that i still think we are waiting for Ashley to sell NUFC!
That’s my guess as well - I’m increasingly leaning towards the Aussies being a fabrication by RD
Now that’s a great theory for the conspiracy hats off to you for that one but I struggle to swallow that as much as I do with regards the 70mil to scare off a perspective buyer
I think a lot of fans have already decided what the issues are and because the hard information coming out of this meeting, from White and elsewhere is limited and opaque they are engaging in confirmation bias.
If you think it's Ashley then the info from last night points to it being Ashley.
If you think it was leaked to White to hurry up the Brits then the info points to that.
Same for most of the other theories.
We don't have enough pieces of the puzzle to be able to work out what the picture is.
Many of the theories, old and new, are plausible but that doesn't make them true.
But neither can they be proved false. Hence we go over the same ground.
At least it should end the theory that Rick and Jim worked together to spread fake rumours to sell more copies of VOTV and get more listeners.
No one ever said that did they ?? Genuine question not a dig if they did that’s way off mark imo
I don’t think the delay is the price, but when and how it will be paid.
It maybe very complicated and it is easy to see how negotiations could be protracted.
The ‘show me the money’ meeting was a strange comment, but could fit the above scenario.
The Brits maybe aware of this and are waiting to pitch a cash offer below the asking price as may be seen as a better deal.
All speculation and not worth a jot. It is what it is and I am going back to just supporting Bows and the team and lose my thoughts to the football. COYR!
I’ve said all along that i still think we are waiting for Ashley to sell NUFC!
That’s my guess as well - I’m increasingly leaning towards the Aussies being a fabrication by RD
Now that’s a great theory for the conspiracy hats off to you for that one but I struggle to swallow that as much as I do with regards the 70mil to scare off a perspective buyer
I think a lot of fans have already decided what the issues are and because the hard information coming out of this meeting, from White and elsewhere is limited and opaque they are engaging in confirmation bias.
If you think it's Ashley then the info from last night points to it being Ashley.
If you think it was leaked to White to hurry up the Brits then the info points to that.
Same for most of the other theories.
We don't have enough pieces of the puzzle to be able to work out what the picture is.
Many of the theories, old and new, are plausible but that doesn't make them true.
But neither can they be proved false. Hence we go over the same ground.
At least it should end the theory that Rick and Jim worked together to spread fake rumours to sell more copies of VOTV and get more listeners.
No one ever said that did they ?? Genuine question not a dig if they did that’s way off mark imo
Fits with the scare off price as well though and the muir scarf wearing and subsequent withdrawal - reckon their mates of rd in the electronics game - it’s as plausible as anything as to why this nonsense has dragged on so long - it’s ridiculous
What I don't get is...how can the person brokering the deal think thought that the sale was going to complete in a couple of days (and sent a letter to Jim White confirming that).
They must either be a) completely incompetent and unable to see that a takeover is no where near or b) encouraged to do this by the seller to re-ignite interest.
Thanks for the FF updates @Henry Irving , however I am somewhat confused by something LDT said. If, as he said, yes we told JW so he would speak about it on radio so we could put pressure on the British group, why oh why would you admit this!!! If I was now a member of that British group, from now on I wouldn't listen to anything that LDT/RD has to say as LDT has just admitted the 'leak' was to pressurise the other bid!! In fact I would be of the mind to say "well RD if that's your game, we are walking away and your welcome to sell to the Aussies" Something here doesn't add up!! I understand that they may want the British bid to come to fruition, but you dont admit that your playing 'hearsay' games to get that done.....what a load of old baloney!! I smell a rat here, you do not conduct business this way and then openly admit it!!
I’ve said all along that i still think we are waiting for Ashley to sell NUFC!
That’s my guess as well - I’m increasingly leaning towards the Aussies being a fabrication by RD
Oh lord.
For what it’s worth I think the Yankee dollars are on their way, the new bits of associated paperwork will get done, and it’ll be done and dusted soonish.
But don’t quote me on that. I hope that puts me back on the scapegoats list?
I’ve said all along that i still think we are waiting for Ashley to sell NUFC!
That’s my guess as well - I’m increasingly leaning towards the Aussies being a fabrication by RD
Now that’s a great theory for the conspiracy hats off to you for that one but I struggle to swallow that as much as I do with regards the 70mil to scare off a perspective buyer
I think a lot of fans have already decided what the issues are and because the hard information coming out of this meeting, from White and elsewhere is limited and opaque they are engaging in confirmation bias.
If you think it's Ashley then the info from last night points to it being Ashley.
If you think it was leaked to White to hurry up the Brits then the info points to that.
Same for most of the other theories.
We don't have enough pieces of the puzzle to be able to work out what the picture is.
Many of the theories, old and new, are plausible but that doesn't make them true.
But neither can they be proved false. Hence we go over the same ground.
At least it should end the theory that Rick and Jim worked together to spread fake rumours to sell more copies of VOTV and get more listeners.
No one ever said that did they ?? Genuine question not a dig if they did that’s way off mark imo
Not on here no. I’ve seen quite a few comments along those lines on some of the Facebook groups, either they’re doing it for themselves or working together.
Thanks for the FF updates @Henry Irving , however I am somewhat confused by something LDT said. If, as he said, yes we told JW so he would speak about it on radio so we could put pressure on the British group, why oh why would you admit this!!! If I was now a member of that British group, from now on I wouldn't listen to anything that LDT/RD has to say as LDT has just admitted the 'leak' was to pressurise the other bid!! In fact I would be of the mind to say "well RD if that's your game, we are walking away and your welcome to sell to the Aussies" Something here doesn't add up!! I understand that they may want the British bid to come to fruition, but you dont admit that your playing 'hearsay' games to get that done.....what a load of old baloney!! I smell a rat here, you do not conduct business this way and then openly admit it!!
LDT didn't say that he'd told JW.
That is what people on here are inferring.
LTD was part of the conference call with the Aussies and Americans
I’ve said all along that i still think we are waiting for Ashley to sell NUFC!
That’s my guess as well - I’m increasingly leaning towards the Aussies being a fabrication by RD
Now that’s a great theory for the conspiracy hats off to you for that one but I struggle to swallow that as much as I do with regards the 70mil to scare off a perspective buyer
I think a lot of fans have already decided what the issues are and because the hard information coming out of this meeting, from White and elsewhere is limited and opaque they are engaging in confirmation bias.
If you think it's Ashley then the info from last night points to it being Ashley.
If you think it was leaked to White to hurry up the Brits then the info points to that.
Same for most of the other theories.
We don't have enough pieces of the puzzle to be able to work out what the picture is.
Many of the theories, old and new, are plausible but that doesn't make them true.
But neither can they be proved false. Hence we go over the same ground.
At least it should end the theory that Rick and Jim worked together to spread fake rumours to sell more copies of VOTV and get more listeners.
No one ever said that did they ?? Genuine question not a dig if they did that’s way off mark imo
Fits with the scare off price as well though and the muir scarf wearing and subsequent withdrawal - reckon their mates of rd in the electronics game - it’s as plausible as anything as to why this nonsense has dragged on so long - it’s ridiculous
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No he didn't
Also they don't have to tell us anything, LvT doesn't need to turn up to these meetings so at least we're getting some info, even if we can probably take a lot of it with a pinch of salt.
If we didn't have them, some fans would moan we don't get told anything. When we do have them some fans say they're not worth it.
Surely the two things go hand in hand.
If you are selling a business which is making millions of pounds profit every year you will sell it for a very high price.
Alternatively if you are selling a business which is losing millions of pounds every year you have to reduce the asking price conciderably.
For me the asking price is still the main problem the rest is all smoke and mirrors.
If you think it's Ashley then the info from last night points to it being Ashley.
If you think it was leaked to White to hurry up the Brits then the info points to that.
Same for most of the other theories.
We don't have enough pieces of the puzzle to be able to work out what the picture is.
Many of the theories, old and new, are plausible but that doesn't make them true.
But neither can they be proved false. Hence we go over the same ground.
Thread title badly needs changing
First thing he will do is drop the Red Red Robin and we willcome out to the Mexican Hat Dance
It’s as if some people are seeing RD as a Machiavellian presence pulling strings behind the scenes.
He’s s a thoroughly disinterested, wealthy owner looking to sell a small football club.
It really doesn’t deserve Capricorn One-esque conspiracy theories.
For what it’s worth I think the Yankee dollars are on their way, the new bits of associated paperwork will get done, and it’ll be done and dusted soonish.
But don’t quote me on that.
I hope that puts me back on the scapegoats list?
I recall it as "they will all have shares"
It maybe very complicated and it is easy to see how negotiations could be protracted.
The ‘show me the money’ meeting was a strange comment, but could fit the above scenario.
The Brits maybe aware of this and are waiting to pitch a cash offer below the asking price as may be seen as a better deal.
All speculation and not worth a jot. It is what it is and I am going back to just supporting Bows and the team and lose my thoughts to the football. COYR!
They must either be a) completely incompetent and unable to see that a takeover is no where near or b) encouraged to do this by the seller to re-ignite interest.
The new owners, whoever they'll be, will have to take these costs on.
The right owners would believe the Club has potential, and go from there...
That is what people on here are inferring.
LTD was part of the conference call with the Aussies and Americans