You hear of fan buyouts! Is there actually a way of doing that?
One reason for having an active Supporters' Trust.
There are clubs where the Trust owns shares and assists in the management of the club. Swansea on their way up to the Premiership are an example although it all fell apart in the Prem I believe.
@PragueAddick has researched this previously if memory serves me right and posted about it.
I haven’t got 8k but I’d put in if there was any sort of chance of taking this into our own hands. Does anyone know some like Varney who could organise something like this. I’m not connected to the club other than being a desperate fan. We managed to get the Valley party together! Could this be any sort of possible answer! Aussies in collaboration with the fans etc
I think too many people got their fingers burnt with the previous share issue which didn't end well when the company was taken back to private status from public and the ordinary shareholders lost their money.
I would not be interested in a share, but if Charlton Supporters Trust or similar could become a genuine member of a consortium with the same deal, I would probably lump in.
I could get to 3k but if momentum gained then I’d find more!
I'm really sorry for lack of info from the Aussies everybody. Not a lot I can do, and I'm not holding anything back I can assure you. Apparently GM went back for a bit of a break, but he wouldn't have done that if it would have slowed things down.
The reference to cost cutting being at the behest of the Aussies is flagrant nonsense.
If you're buying a business you really need to take a hard look at all the cost lines and people yourself and quickly work out where and how far to cut. Leaving it to the current owner means there is no interest in ensuring the right (as opposed to easiest) things are cut, and in keeping the people you want to keep, who are very often the ones most likely to walk.
The reference to cost cutting being at the behest of the Aussies is flagrant nonsense.
If you're buying a business you really need to take a hard look at all the cost lines and people yourself and quickly work out where and how far to cut. Leaving it to the current owner means there is no interest in ensuring the right (as opposed to easiest) things are cut, and in keeping the people you want to keep, who are very often the ones most likely to walk.
Nope. If it's not a house buying analogy I'm not interested.
@JamesSeed - did you get a response from GM? Looks like they need to get their fingers out pronto.
This.
Better hurry up or the mystery, non existent! load of cobblers party will get their hands on it!
.................Or just wait till next summer and pay half of what you offered this summer.
I genuinely don’t believe that they were ever going to purchase us at the price agreed as they did not and do not have the funding in place to follow through on the deal .
And I do believe that others are still showing an interest and it’s for this reason shit roland two shit cheap Belgian chalets for sale is hanging around like a hard to reach shit clinker that makes your eyes water when you find it
@JamesSeed - did you get a response from GM? Looks like they need to get their fingers out pronto.
This.
Better hurry up or the mystery, non existent! load of cobblers party will get their hands on it!
.................Or just wait till next summer and pay half of what you offered this summer.
I genuinely don’t believe that they were ever going to purchase us at the price agreed as they did not and do not have the funding in place to follow through on the deal .
And I do believe that others are still showing an interest and it’s for this reason shit roland two shit cheap Belgian chalets for sale is hanging around like a hard to reach shit clinker that makes your eyes water when you find it
No offense, but who told you that? They may be right, or they may be wrong, but unless you say who told you it's hard to judge really. But yes, they may still be struggling to make up the numbers, I wouldn't know. I guess we may not look a very attractive proposition to some, investment wise, especially if you're trying to attract funding for a five year plan. Duchâtelet won't care about that. He just wants his money back. What a bloody mess.
@JamesSeed - did you get a response from GM? Looks like they need to get their fingers out pronto.
This.
Better hurry up or the mystery, non existent! load of cobblers party will get their hands on it!
.................Or just wait till next summer and pay half of what you offered this summer.
I genuinely don’t believe that they were ever going to purchase us at the price agreed as they did not and do not have the funding in place to follow through on the deal .
And I do believe that others are still showing an interest and it’s for this reason shit roland two shit cheap Belgian chalets for sale is hanging around like a hard to reach shit clinker that makes your eyes water when you find it
No offense, but who told you that? They may be right, or they may be wrong, but unless you say who told you it's hard to judge really.
According to CAFC website re some sort of fans meeting, looks like its pretty much done. Two parties. Price agreed with each. First one to finish and it's theirs. Director's loans no longer an issue. No exclusivity.
According to CAFC website re some sort of fans meeting, looks like its pretty much done. Two parties. Price agreed with each. First one to finish and it's theirs. Director's loans no longer an issue. No exclusivity.
That's reassuring then. If it's on the official site and is info put out by the club then I can't think of any reason to doubt that it's all true.
Looking forward to reading the happy news in the morning.
According to CAFC website re some sort of fans meeting, looks like its pretty much done. Two parties. Price agreed with each. First one to finish and it's theirs. Director's loans no longer an issue. No exclusivity.
In this case, WIOTOS is also proved to be a fallacy.
My guess is he Aussies are looking for another investor. That would explain the rumours of the deal being dead and other talk that they’re still around.
Still not convinced the second party are real.
We could be weeks or months away from the deal going or falling through completely. Saying it’s just down to the Aussies to submit documents suggests it’s close but I don’t get that feeling from everything else that was said.
If it was very close there wouldn’t be much point other parties looking at the club.
Any news on the nationality of this second party that’s recently come back in, don’t think it’s the mentioned British bid as they had been in for a while (if they were real in the first place)
@JamesSeed - did you get a response from GM? Looks like they need to get their fingers out pronto.
This.
Better hurry up or the mystery, non existent! load of cobblers party will get their hands on it!
.................Or just wait till next summer and pay half of what you offered this summer.
I genuinely don’t believe that they were ever going to purchase us at the price agreed as they did not and do not have the funding in place to follow through on the deal .
And I do believe that others are still showing an interest and it’s for this reason shit roland two shit cheap Belgian chalets for sale is hanging around like a hard to reach shit clinker that makes your eyes water when you find it
No offense, but who told you that? They may be right, or they may be wrong, but unless you say who told you it's hard to judge really. But yes, they may still be struggling to make up the numbers, I wouldn't know. I guess we may not look a very attractive proposition to some, investment wise, especially if you're trying to attract funding for a five year plan. Duchâtelet won't care about that. He just wants his money back. What a bloody mess.
The Australians themselves have made it perfectly clear that they are seeking investors to buy the club. Ergo, they do not have sufficient funds to do so. As for, '...they may be struggling to make up the numbers...' , there is no 'may' about it. At present,they don't have the money: that is empirical fact.
@JamesSeed - did you get a response from GM? Looks like they need to get their fingers out pronto.
This.
Better hurry up or the mystery, non existent! load of cobblers party will get their hands on it!
.................Or just wait till next summer and pay half of what you offered this summer.
I genuinely don’t believe that they were ever going to purchase us at the price agreed as they did not and do not have the funding in place to follow through on the deal .
And I do believe that others are still showing an interest and it’s for this reason shit roland two shit cheap Belgian chalets for sale is hanging around like a hard to reach shit clinker that makes your eyes water when you find it
No offense, but who told you that? They may be right, or they may be wrong, but unless you say who told you it's hard to judge really. But yes, they may still be struggling to make up the numbers, I wouldn't know. I guess we may not look a very attractive proposition to some, investment wise, especially if you're trying to attract funding for a five year plan. Duchâtelet won't care about that. He just wants his money back. What a bloody mess.
Why's that? Richard Murray said this whole shit show would be done in March! You can't get much more than that for a horse's mouth.
It's obvious the Aussies have a cash flow problem. It's the only thing the EFL really care about. They can bleat on about fit and proper people all they like, but all they really are about is getting their cut.
I call bullshit. So according to Rolands latest mouthpiece two separate parties have agreed a price for the club. One party has completed DD and the other is about to do so. He then goes on to talk about further fans meetings in November is we have not been sold. All smoke and mirrors me thinks.
@JamesSeed I have made it quite clear who told me on god knows how many occasions but because it came from the dirty side of town it was thrown out as not reliable ,
I think the fact that it has been stated on here that GM answered and email of how who and what is required to join the consortium
The fact they are still actively searching for investors
Shows that my pal the coach who works for the shit chalet family and was able to be present in communications between those discussing these things was right and so was those involved in the deal who held reservations over their ability to complete
There’s no point wondering what would’ve been with the Aussies that horse is well and truly refusing to jump the hurdle
Months ago I was told there were two others looking still and one who hadn’t gone away from the out set
I still haven’t seen anything to disprove this theory and nor had anyone else
My guess is he Aussies are looking for another investor. That would explain the rumours of the deal being dead and other talk that they’re still around.
Still not convinced the second party are real.
We could be weeks or months away from the deal going or falling through completely. Saying it’s just down to the Aussies to submit documents suggests it’s close but I don’t get that feeling from everything else that was said.
If it was very close there wouldn’t be much point other parties looking at the club.
My guess would be, we are no nearer a sale than we were back on page one, which must have been over a year ago now. Seems like another lifetime ago. I would say the asking price, not documentation, is and always was the stumbling block. Every buyer for everything wants a bargain and every yellow tooth dried up old scrotum wants top dollar. The rate of time this is taking I think probate might be involved.
@JamesSeed I have made it quite clear who told me on god knows how many occasions but because it came from the dirty side of town it was thrown out as not reliable ,
I think the fact that it has been stated on here that GM answered and email of how who and what is required to join the consortium
The fact they are still actively searching for investors
Shows that my pal the coach who works for the shit chalet family and was able to be present in communications between those discussing these things was right and so was those involved in the deal who held reservations over their ability to complete
There’s no point wondering what would’ve been with the Aussies that horse is well and truly refusing to jump the hurdle
Months ago I was told there were two others looking still and one who hadn’t gone away from the out set
I still haven’t seen anything to disprove this theory and nor had anyone else
I am sorry to say I, for one do not believe any of it now, I dont believe the Aussies are still in the hunt, and as much as there could well be enquiries about the club, £40 mill is just asking far to much.
Look at the history of this, look how long it has dragged on for, and were still no further as I see it, than we were end of last summer. If all the tales on this post were made on paper, it would of papered my front room and finished my hallway,
If Duchatelet was in that much of a rush to sell the club, no way would I have expected him to be hanging around months and months later, still waiting for proposed buyers to get their finger out, were being given some untruths and a runabout, something just dont sit right with me over this so called take-over.
Any news on the nationality of this second party that’s recently come back in, don’t think it’s the mentioned British bid as they had been in for a while (if they were real in the first place)
I wouldn't be surprised if any potentisl new bidders or those lurking in the shadows are just biding their time & waiting to pick us up on the cheap under a "distressed sale" or suchlike.
I wouldn't be surprised if any potentisl new bidders or those lurking in the shadows are just biding their time & waiting to pick us up on the cheap under a "distressed sale" or suchlike.
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Better hurry up or the mystery, non existent! load of cobblers party will get their hands on it!
.................Or just wait till next summer and pay half of what you offered this summer.
Not a lot I can do, and I'm not holding anything back I can assure you.
Apparently GM went back for a bit of a break, but he wouldn't have done that if it would have slowed things down.
If you're buying a business you really need to take a hard look at all the cost lines and people yourself and quickly work out where and how far to cut. Leaving it to the current owner means there is no interest in ensuring the right (as opposed to easiest) things are cut, and in keeping the people you want to keep, who are very often the ones most likely to walk.
And I do believe that others are still showing an interest and it’s for this reason shit roland two shit cheap Belgian chalets for sale is hanging around like a hard to reach shit clinker that makes your eyes water when you find it
But yes, they may still be struggling to make up the numbers, I wouldn't know. I guess we may not look a very attractive proposition to some, investment wise, especially if you're trying to attract funding for a five year plan.
Duchâtelet won't care about that. He just wants his money back.
What a bloody mess.
Looking forward to reading the happy news in the morning.
Still not convinced the second party are real.
We could be weeks or months away from the deal going or falling through completely. Saying it’s just down to the Aussies to submit documents suggests it’s close but I don’t get that feeling from everything else that was said.
If it was very close there wouldn’t be much point other parties looking at the club.
As for, '...they may be struggling to make up the numbers...' , there is no 'may' about it. At present,they don't have the money: that is empirical fact.
Richard Murray said this whole shit show would be done in March! You can't get much more than that for a horse's mouth.
It's obvious the Aussies have a cash flow problem. It's the only thing the EFL really care about. They can bleat on about fit and proper people all they like, but all they really are about is getting their cut.
So according to Rolands latest mouthpiece two separate parties have agreed a price for the club.
One party has completed DD and the other is about to do so.
He then goes on to talk about further fans meetings in November is we have not been sold.
All smoke and mirrors me thinks.
I think the fact that it has been stated on here that GM answered and email of how who and what is required to join the consortium
The fact they are still actively searching for investors
Shows that my pal the coach who works for the shit chalet family and was able to be present in communications between those discussing these things was right and so was those involved in the deal who held reservations over their ability to complete
There’s no point wondering what would’ve been with the Aussies that horse is well and truly refusing to jump the hurdle
Months ago I was told there were two others looking still and one who hadn’t gone away from the out set
I still haven’t seen anything to disprove this theory and nor had anyone else
I would say the asking price, not documentation, is and always was the stumbling block. Every buyer for everything wants a bargain and every yellow tooth dried up old scrotum wants top dollar.
The rate of time this is taking I think probate might be involved.
Look at the history of this, look how long it has dragged on for, and were still no further as I see it, than we were end of last summer. If all the tales on this post were made on paper, it would of papered my front room and finished my hallway,
If Duchatelet was in that much of a rush to sell the club, no way would I have expected him to be hanging around months and months later, still waiting for proposed buyers to get their finger out, were being given some untruths and a runabout, something just dont sit right with me over this so called take-over.